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The Steelers offense vs the Bengals, a look at each down.

With all the debate going on over the offense, and me not able to sleep I decided to look at the play by play for the Steelers offense.

Decided to break it down focusing on 1st down running plays and passing plays, then go from there showing what they did on second down and so on.

This post is rather long, but shouldn't be too hard to follow.

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OK, let's look at the breakdown for the results on each down:

 

Runs on 8/27 first downs.

 

First down runs = 28 yards on 8 carries (3.5ypc): 2,2,3,10,-3,9,5,0

 

On the 5 yard gain we ran on second down.

 

First down passes = 111 yards on 19 throws 5.84(ypa) 13 of 18 with one sack (72.2% complete) sack was for -9 yards which would bring average down to 5.37(ypa)

 

Plays went for 11,4,11,11,3,0,10,0(1st&20),11,11,-9(sack),1,16,0,9,8,5,0,0    **no passes were completed for zero yards this game, all 0's are incomplete passes**

 

 

Second Downs

 

Nineteen times the Steelers faced 2nd downs averaging 2nd and 8.63 yards for the first.  Let's look at how they got there.

1st downs on 1st: 8 times (no second down) (1 run 7 passes)

2nd and 1-3 yards: 3 times (1 run 2 passes)

2nd and 4-6 yards: 2 times (1 run, 1 pass)

2nd and 7-9 yards: 6 times (4 runs, 2 passes)

2nd and 10 yards: 5 times (1 run, 4 passes)

2nd and 11+ yards: 3 times (1 sack, 2 penalties followed by passes)

 

And now what we did on those downs:

 

Runs on 2nd and:

6 for 5 yards

5 for 3 yards

9 for 4 yards

10 for 7 yards

1 for 4 yards

2 for 1 yard

 

 

Passes on 2nd and:

8 for -5 yards (sack)

8 for 3 yards

7 for -7 yards (sack)

7 for 1 yard

10 for 0

8 for 0

1 for 3 yards

20 for 46 yard penalty

17 for 0

10 for 16 yards

15 for 0

10 for 7 yards

10 for 0

 

Third Downs

 

The Steelers faced 15 3rd downs, average of 3rd and 7.5.  I'm going to break this down by yardage, and if we converted.

 

3 of 15 converted.

3rd and 1:         2 runs 1 conversion.

3rd and 2-3:     3 passes 0 conversions 1 turnover

3rd and 4-6:     3 passes 0 conversions

3rd and 7-10:   3 passes 1 conversion 1 sack

3rd and 11+:    4 pass plays, 1 conversion on scramble

 

And now each third down distance and the results of our plays.  Again all passes for 0 are incomplete passes.

 

Runs on 3rd and

1 for 12 yards

13 for 15 yards (Ben scramble)

1 for 0 yards

 

 

Passes on 3rd and

5 for 0

14 for 12 yards

6 for 0

10 for 21

8 for -7 (sack)

17 for 0

2 for interception

5 for 0

3 for 0

15 for 0

3 for 0

10 for 0

 

 

Fourth downs

 

Just for closure the other 11 plays we ran on offense, 4th downs.

 

28 yard field goal

Punt

Punt

33 yard field goal

35 yard field goal

Punt

Punt

4th and 1, Ben sneaks for 1 picks it up

34 yard field goal

Punt

Incomplete pass, over on downs.

 

 

That's all for the stats.  On to the analysis.

 

If 1st down success rate is measured as 4 or more yards, our first down success rate was 13 of 27.  That's not too bad.  It is under 50% but no way should a team with 13 of 17 wins on first down end up with 12 points off a lot of good field position.

Wins:

3 runs, 10 passes.

Meh (2 or 3 yards):

3 runs, 1 pass

Boo! (0 or 1 yard):

1 run, 6 passes

Fire Bruce!  (loss)

1 run, 1 pass

There were also two 1st and 20, a 1st and 5 and apparently a 1st and 8 that I don't remember.

13 wins, 9 bad first downs,and 4 that were in the gray.  You can do well with those results.

 

We did  worse on second down.

 

4 first downs, (1 run (Ben scramble), 2 passes, 1 by penalty)

4 brought us within 3 yards of the first down from 5 or more yards out. (runs of 5,3,7, pass of 7)

9 gained 1 or 0 yards (1 run 8 passes)

2 sacks.

That is a miserable bunch of second downs.  11 were bad, 4 were wins, 4 were alright to good.

We had 5 2nd downs of 6 or fewer yards, we threw on 1 of them for a first, the other we ran for a first down, 2 3rd and 1 and a 3rd and 2.  The passes were mostly bad.  What we are seeing at this point is the Steelers did well on second when they did well on first down, the problem is most of their first down wins there was no second down.  Four of fourteen second and 7+ plays can be said to have done well, one of those off a penalty for a first down.  Two more brought up 3rd and 5, the rest (8 plays) consist of 5 incompletions, 2 sacks and the Matt Spaeth one yard catch and fumble.

Third Down we did just as bad or worse.

20% conversion rate with the glaring problem being 1 conversion and 1 turnover on 3rd and 3 or less.  If you want to criticize the offense look no farther than 3 passes on 3rd and 2 or 3 and a stuffed run on third and 1.  Third downs were pathetic.  They were long for the most part, but long or short we did just as bad.

I don't mind the third down sacks unless they take us out of field goal range.  Throwing it away any other time is just giving up.

 

So overall I'd say we did solid on first down, bad on second and horrible on third downs.  Jeff Reed made 4 field goals and looked bad on that return.  The guy has no agility, change direction slightly and he can't do anything to you.  That's just not being in football shape.  You can say he isn't trying to make the tackle, but I'd say he's out of shape and that's the best he can do.  Get in shape Skippy, there's no excuse for the condition you are in unless you are injured.

To me this doesn't look like bad play calling, it looks like an offense that got beat.  Good man coverage always takes Hines out of the game, and they took Wallace out too with that rookie playing so well.  I was hoping we'd see a big day from Heath, but Ben was missing him and then just didn't go back to him.  I'd like to see more throws to Mendenhall, he seems to do well on them.

 

As for running the ball Mendenhall was getting swarmed and most of his carries brought up 2nd and long.  When we faced 2nd and long we lost, we did much better throwing on first down.  Our O-line looked like it was getting some push, but the holes were closing fast.  This would have been a good game for Bettis, he would have gotten 4-6 on most of those carries, but not many in the league can do that right now.  Oh, Cedric Benson can, and did it to us.  Even though we didn't let him do much, he was getting 2-3 yards after contact.  Mendenhall isn't that type of runner.

Let's hope Troy comes back 100% for the playoffs.  That's right, we're still making the playoffs.  I'd say I'd like to face Cincinnati for a third time but Baltimore said the same thing last year after we squeeked out two wins in the regular season, and look how that turned out.

Thanks for sticking out the post, hope you liked it.

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you are kidding, right??

WE LET THE BENGALS PUSH US AROND, IN OUR HOUSE!! There is no positive here! True, skippy hit 4 FGs, but he cannot kick the ball deep into the endzone…The kick returner catches the ball on the 10yd line…Troy probably will miss 3-4 games and with that said, how can we stop the short passing game? Brady, Manning will chew our defense up, especially Manning with those quick drops..THERE IS NO POSITIVE HERE!! Yes, we will beat the KC, so what?? Think we will beat Baltimore?? Doubt it! the only wins I see on the schedule, is cleveland, KC and Oakland..Guy, this team is in serious trouble! we lost twice to a divisional opponet!! What good can come from that!! We, including myself must stop drinking the kool aid! BTW, BB hasnt thrown for 300yds in awhile! wasnt great against Minny, so-so in the first half againt denver, came alive in the secong half..terrible yesterday..Right now, we are the 4th best..in the AFC! Colys, Pats, bengals are better than us…at this point! will things change? Probably not, especially wothout troy! all of a sudden special teams will get good?? We give way too many cheap points up and our offense is WAY too inconsistant!

by nycsteelerfan on Nov 16, 2009 7:37 AM EST reply actions  

Want to know a positive?

Weak fans are being rooted out.

Ryan Clark remarked that Coach Tomlin once asked whether he wanted to be the nail in the defense, or the hammer. "I said, 'I want to be the hammer coach.'"

by svenhoek on Nov 16, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

True that

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 16, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

OK?

The point of this post is to look at what we did, what worked and what didn’t. The Bengals are better than us. Get over it. You think the Pats are better than us? There own defense worries them. Neither them or the Colts have a defense as good as Cincy. In case you didn’t notice our defense shut Cincy down pretty well, so I’ll take my chances against either NE or Indy.

We have some problems. We need to address them. Probably not by running around screaming the world is coming to an end.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 16, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Is she/he/it serious with this?

I don’t even know where to begin.

“Troy probably will miss 3-4 games and with that said, how can we stop the short passing game? Brady, Manning will chew our defense up, especially Manning with those quick drops.”

- Our next 3-4 games are against KC, BAL, OAK, and CLE. Yes, Brady and Manning will chew our defense up in those games. Good point.

“we lost twice to a divisional opponet!! What good can come from that!!

- Baltimore lost twice to us last season and was one drive away from representing the AFC in SBXLIII. There was no good in that at all for them.

“We, including myself must stop drinking the kool aid!”

-What koolaid? The “We’re 6-3, let’s stay positive” koolaid? You’re right…you make a good point. Ben hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in ages and we’re only the 4th best team in the AFC. We’re done.

Thanks for the research and write-up, Phanta. Sorry that “sky-is-falling” comment had to be the first on your post.

by DC Black&Gold on Nov 16, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

To her credit

I have seen many of her comments, and she is consistent with her spelling of inconsistant. So she has that going for her, which is nice.

by worldtrip on Nov 16, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You consistantly brighten up my day.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 16, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice post, Phantaskippy.

I’ll try to highlight a few things.

From the first comment above

WE LET THE BENGALS PUSH US AROND, IN OUR HOUSE!! There is no positive here!

Have you maybe thought of the fact that the Bengals are the best team in the AFC North? Yes, I highly understand how it feels to even think about that, but maybe it is true. They have play makers all around them and a coach that is familiar with this conference and not afraid to punch you square in the jaw much like your Steelers and my Ravens are used to doing in this division.

Brady, Manning will chew our defense up, especially Manning with those quick drops..THERE IS NO POSITIVE HERE!!

Yes, missing Troy will hurt. But you still have a great pass rush and great coverage comes from a great pass rush, no matter who is playing CB and S for you back there. Missing Troy does suck, but your front 7 can pressure QB’s as good as anyone in this league, so do that and you definitely have a chance.

BB hasnt thrown for 300yds in awhile! wasnt great against Minny, so-so in the first half againt denver, came alive in the secong half..terrible yesterday..

When have you guys ever cared if Bennigans threw for 300 yards? He has won so many games in the past with shitty stats, but did JUST ENOUGH to get the win. Would you have rather had Ben throw for 350 yards and 4 TDs in a loss to Minn or have his stats in a win? Think about it man………he is not Manning, Brady, or Brees. He is Big Fatty Ben that wins Superbowls.

Steelers keep looking at the stats….

Bengals look at the wins.

Child Please

What does this mean? I have YET to see one blogger from Cincy Jungle, besides their 5-6 regular guys, actually post anything of relevance to this game. They look at stats to figure out how they lost yet you fail miserably at explaining why you won. How about I reword your comment for you (coming from a Raven fan)

Steelers keep looking at their 6 trophies…..

Bengals keep looking at their…….

Children Please

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

MaLoR

Even I didn’t know you posted this ’til I scrolled down. A Steeler at heart? Or just an overall nice guy? Lol, nice post. I especially love this line

He is Big Fatty Ben that wins Superbowls.

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Nov 16, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Just an overall nice guy

I think…..

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was too long. Gotta find a way to trim it, probably should have dumped the running play by play.

I have a feeling Cincy may be built to beat the Ravens and Steelers and may struggle against other teams, but the way they looked the last couple weeks, I think they could win it all.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 16, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

But Houston?

They got beat badly by Houston in their own stadium. If they are sweeping the Steelers and Ravens, how are they losing to the Texans? I just think Marvin Lewis has some inside info on both the Ravens and Steelers that neither of those teams have on the Bengals.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you very much it is a well structured post, though I disagree with your conclusions.

First down passes = 111 yards on 19 throws

5.84(ypa) 13 of 18 with one sack (72.2% complete)

sack was for -9 yards which would bring average

down to 5.37(ypa)
 Plays went for

11,4,11,11,3,0,10,0(1st&20),11,11,-9(sack),1,16,0,9,8,

5,0,0 **no passes were completed for zero yards

this game, all 0’s are incomplete passes**//

Eight of the conpletions were between 8 and 11 yds with only one longer. The pattern here is, the Bengals played containment on first down and brought pressure on 2nd on 3rd downs.

Ben
2nd down passes 5 of 13(38%) 2 sacks, tremendous pressure and got smacked around.
3rd down passes 2 of 13(15%)1 sack, 1 int further pressure and gratuitous smacking.

A good plan by the Bengals,executed at a high level to which the asshole Arians was a dim-witted accomplice.

This is in no way good play calling, we got suckered into unbalanced play (not very hard with the asshole Arians) knowing the asshole Arians will get more unbalanced the further into downs he gets and the further into halves he gets( he’s predictable that way).

8 runs on 27 plays on first down(29%)
6 runs on 19 plays on 2nd down(31%)
2runs on 15 plays on 3rd down(13%)

Predictable game plan by Arians and there were no adjustments.
 
Additionally, from what I saw, Mendenhall was getting 2-3 yds after contact.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 16, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

I saw more of first down run stuffing with bigger cushions on the wide outs. Hence the short runs and mid range passes. After that on second down they focused on covering.

I would have liked to see more runs on second and long, the Bengals were straight pass defense.

I think Arians gets more unbalanced as the half goes on because usually that’s when Ben gets going. Cincy never let Ben get going. That’s why they won. Ben was never comfortable, mainly because they didn’t let him move around and dictate his throws with footwork. I also think that is why he had so many balls batted down.

They weren’t trying to beat lineman and sack Ben, they were creating a contained pocket and pushing it into Ben. It was a great defensive game for the Bengals.

One of the main ideas of this post was going back and doing similar things for earlier games, to see where the aberrations are. I’m guessing Ben is a lot better on second and third down, and the rough average of down and distance isn’t a big difference. If I can get time I’ll do it.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 17, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw more of first down run stuffing with bigger cushions on the wide outs. Hence the short runs and mid range passes.

That is how they suckered Arians, they gave the jackass a carrot.

the Bengals were straight pass defense.

On 2nd & 3rd downs pressuring with 5 and covering with 6.

Cincy never let Ben get going

…and the jackass made no adjustments. That’s bad play calling.

They weren’t trying to beat lineman and sack Ben, they were creating a contained pocket and pushing it into Ben.

Of course not, it would blow the coverage to let him out.

It was a great defensive game for the Bengals.

Yes, it was.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 17, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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