How about some touchbacks?

by upabob on Nov 16, 2009 8:58 AM EST Comment 17 comments

I saw at least one comment criticizing Reed on the TD return. He got out to the edge and forced the guy back inside. Which is his main job on the return. The other 10 guys are supposed to make the tackle. Gay seemed attracted to a blocker like a piece of metal to a magnet.

But Reed has THREE touchbacks on kickoffs this year. Teams are routinely catching the ball between the five and the ten. Which makes it nearly impossible to get a returner inside his own 20, let alone a touchback.

Reed has been a clutch field goal kicker (folks remember Kris Brown?), and if he's not much help on returns, most kickers aren't. But we also need a guy who can kick into the end zone once in awhile. The combination of short kicks and bad coverage this year has been a crippling problem. Yesterday it helped lose the game.

If he stops acting like an idiot off the field, I'm for bringing Reed back, but trying to find somebody else to kick off.

And I sure miss Anthony Madison on the coverage unit.

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Kicker

I think it’s obvious that Reed will no longer be our kicker after this year, but we do need a new one sorry to say. And we need someone who can be consistent at Heinz Field in the blustery December (and hopefully January) winds. Would we draft a kicker, or would we choose to go into free agency.

By the way, the kicker in question I think needs to be a step up in kickoffs certainly. This is something that has bugged me as of late.

by bensmitty234 on Nov 16, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

hopefully Pat McAfee will be a free agent soon

He can both punt and be a PK

"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach

by WVPiratesfan on Nov 16, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

can robbo punter kick off ?

by Sch Lotan on Nov 16, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The returner should not even get to the kicker in the first place

That TD is far from Reed’s fault. Yes, it was a attempt of a princess to make that tackle, but your special teams created some huge holes for Scott because of their mistakes.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

just kick it out of bounds on purpose

you hold the other team out of the endzone and you know they’re getting the ball at the 40 yard line. that might be the only way we keep one from going back every week……

by WARDANE33 on Nov 16, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

jeff reead give the homeless your gamecheck. Embarrassing.

Ron Paul was Right.

by Steelchamps !! on Nov 16, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Reed watevr

Ron Paul was Right.

by Steelchamps !! on Nov 16, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

4 of 4 on field goals...

Which is the only thing he is solely responsible for. I’d love for him to make that tackle, and he should have, but come on now.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But if he did give his game check to the homeless...

I’d be all for it.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the lack of heart was pathetic. If hes not wearing the black and gold on that play, say perhaps purple? we are BOTH LOLin all day long. That was NOT steelerness. it was in fact VERY embarassing. (imo) at least dive at the feet man

Ron Paul was Right.

by Steelchamps !! on Nov 16, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i for one

would enjoy in a masochistic way, anotomy of a play on the ole ballarina there goes the division twirlaroo

Ron Paul was Right.

by Steelchamps !! on Nov 16, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hear you...

Pathetic is the right word. I’ll say the same thing I said last time, a little effort goes a long way. In the fans mind, in your teammates mind, in your coaches mind, etc. His effort was lacking.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 16, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gay is more to blame than Reed

1 – Logan got pushed inside by Quan Cosby (who was brilliant on this return), allowing Scott to hop back outside then glide back inside, barely getting by Keyaron Fox.

2 – Gay bouned off a pile and began sprinting in pursuit.

3 – Reed slowed Scott down a step and forced him to cut back inside.

4 – Gay CLEARLY has the angle on Scott after this redirect.

5 – Quan Cosby absolutely BLOWS BY Logan, who is chasing Scott.

6 – Cosby then gets an arm push twice on Gay, who gets pushed away like a gale force wind is hitting him. The first push was about the 32.

And when Gay gets pushed off his line, he blocks out Ike Taylor, who had come up at a good angle and was going to make a dive at Scott.

7 – Cosby then goes back and wipes out Logan.

8 – Gay doesn’t end up lunging at Scott until about the 5 because he’d gotten pushed around by Cosby.

Gay, not Reed, was no help downfield, and Quan Cosby made an absolutely all-hustle play to spring that TD.

You can see it by coping in this link:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8143bd29/NFL-GameDay-Bengals-vs-Steelers-highlights

by upabob on Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Here's what i saw

1 Logan turns him in initially but is so small he is easily blocked.

2 Fox plays pattycake with his blocker then gets held as he tries to make the
tackle. He should have dove at the runner’s legs instead of reaching for his
jersey.

3 Good blocking by the bengals st

4 Logan is not very fast. I don’t think he has the speed to take a return to
the house

by qwikdoc on Nov 16, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oops

Don’t want to forget about Ike. He pulled a Randy Moss. I know he had outside contain but when Scott cut it back inside, Ike just stood there and let a blocker git to him. There was no aggression what so ever. We may need to play some starters on coverage units but only if they are going to try to make a play

by qwikdoc on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs