Steelers are not a Super Bowl team
Before everyone has a freaking coronary, allow me to explain. Last years playoff run was no fluke. The defense was by far the best in the league. Big Ben was his usual self and came up big in that final drive. Santonio played out of his mind and special teams did not allow the big play in kickoff coverage. Are you starting to get my drift? I'll break itt down for you one by one.
While the defense is still exceptional, and the drop off from last year has not been significant, the season is just past the halfway point and the lack of depth is bound to take it's toll. Smith is gone, Timmons is dinged up, and Troy cannot be counted on to finish the season, his knee is clearly a bigger problem than anyone on the Steelers cares to admit. The defense has pride and it has heart, and it has Dick LeBeau. But it's another year older and lacking depth. There are brutal games on the horizon and I just don't see them holding up well enough to make a serious run through the playoffs. One more major injury and they might not even see the playoffs.
Big Ben is not his usual self. I mentioned this in another post and it was pooh poohed by the faithful. I'm going to say it again and if you can't see it you are clearly in a state of denial. Big Ben isn't right in the head for all the obvious reasons. He's a future hall of famer and 2 time Super Bowl champ, I love the guy and expect amazing things from him in the future. But I am not so foolish to think that anyone having been accused, falsely or otherwise, of a heinous crime who is currently awaiting trial could have his head completely in anything, especially the pressure packed, fast paced, highly cerebral job of a winning NFL QB. As much as I dislike Bruce Arians playcalling, there were plays to be made yesterday, everyone gets a little blame, but Ben was not sharp and it's not the first time this year that he was obviously out of sorts.
Holmes. He's made some big plays this year. And he has left some bigger plays on the field. Hines is Hines and you can expect 100% from him every Sunday, but Hines 100% is not what it used to be and Santonio needs to step it up. It wasn't well documented but he was struggling with a wrist injury or something earlier in the year. I'm not sure that he is completely healthy. Holmes potentially dealing with a nagging injury, Hines dealing with father time, Heath Miller spending too much time in the backfield providing support to an O-line that frankly seems to be a bit over hyped this year (which is to be expected considering what an improvement they have been from last year), add it all up and it's a recipe for disaster.
Just a note on Arians, the league has figured this guy out for the fraud of an offensive coordinator that he is. The offense does it's best work when Ben calls the plays. If you can, please convince me otherwise. And for those of you who think we should be running more, see last comment. Ben calls a balanced attack.
Special Teams. The return unit is definitely improved from last year and IMHO it has everything to do with Stefan Logan. It seems to me that we give no support to this guy at all and yet he continues to put us up around the thirty yard line with consistency. Perhaps that has something to do with the rule changes regarding the wedge, but it's obvious that other teams have made the necessary adjustments, painfully obvious. Some of you have said that Logan is a liability on coverage which negates the field position he gives us with his returns. But when I watch the replays he seems to be the first one down the field on every play, he does get knocked around a bit, but he is relentless and has made some big plays. I think I heard the word scapegoat in another post. If a scapegoat is what we are looking for, Logan is the last place to look.
Random thoughts.
I think I hear a bus coming down the road, quick, grab Bruce Arians.
I've seen a lot of offensive lineman limp off the field this year and then return to play, could that be because there is no one to replace them and how long can this trend continue?
Positive thinking does not equal positive yardage.
I love Mike Tomlin but we are about to find out just what kind of coach and leader he really is. Should this team falter in the playoffs, or heaven forbid fail to reach the playoffs there are going to be some tough decisions to be made in the off season. Will Coach T make the correct evaluations and proper adjustments, is he willing to let go of a few members of his coaching staff if need be? Time will tell.
OK guys and gals. I've said my piece. Now it's your turn to rake me over the coals. I don't expect to be a very popular guy this week but what the heck, it should be fun getting my ass verbally kicked for the next few days. I can take it. Fire away.
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You are delirious
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 17, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree he is delirious
I can tell you right now even if the Steelers don’t win the division, first of all the Bungels and any other team doesn’t want to face the Steelers in the playoffs. This is your hangover as compared to 2006 folks, it’s not that bad. Our D is looking good no matter what is said about them, and our O is much better than last year. This team will scare people and I can’t see both Indy and Pats going anywhere with their D.
by ColinP on Nov 17, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse my english, but holy shit
How does someone jump off the wagon that quickly? This defense is still dominant (even with Troy sitting). Good defenses always seem to make good runs at the end of the season (i.e. last year Steelers, Ravens, Titans). You say one more injury could be catastrophic, or Travis and Troy just return from their injuries in a few games making our defense even stronger.
Did this team not just go on a 5 game winning streak? Jebus, Big Ben has one bad game and he suddenly sucks? What about his tremendous outing on MNF against the Broncos? Does that mean nothing? Or the seemingly career record stats he is putting up for himself? I believe our offense is a bit inconsistent because of bad play calling, not Ben’s decision making. I flipped back through the box score game drive and it seems like Bruce went back to his throw, throw, throw offense. Why does that man not see the potential that balance gives us, like in the Broncos game.
This team is still clearly a SB contender, if you want to jump off, please do. That way I won’t have to read this negative crap.
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 17, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon? Ben Sucks?
Who’s post were you replying to, because it certainly wasn’t mine. I have been a devoted Steeler fanatic since probably before you were born. That’s a guess based upon the quality of your writing and juvenile behavior.
I made my thoughts pretty clear about Ben, again, did you even read the post or just the top line?
As for the bandwagon bit. Making a few observations about the state of the club is hardly jumping ship, as if I were on a ship, or a bandwagon as you call it. In my opinion we are not a Super Bowl contender. Not this year. Would I love to be wrong about this one, oh yeah, you betcha.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please point out where I used the word bandwagon. Clearly, I am not the only one reading what I want.
Ben is 8th in QB rating, 4th in comp %, 7th in yardage, 4th in Y/A, and 13th in TDs. How does he not have his wits about him? I think you are letting the taste of one game completely sour your opinion on Ben. I think you forgot last week where Ben went on the road at one of the hardest stadiums to win at and played completely lights out.
I attribute a lot of Ben’s bad game on Sunday to Bruce’s play calling. We should not throw the ball 40 times with a back running like Mendenhall has been. Arians is a pass happy fool that might cost this team a couple wins and possibly a playoff berth.
However, there is no reason to think that this team is not a SB contender because of one game. I can guarantee you were not singing this tune during our 5 game winning streak and you are one of those guys who think the whole sky is falling when there is one bad game.
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 17, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone get Johnny a Xanax
QUOTE “how does someone jump off the wagon that quickly” No Johnny, you did not say bandwagon. I stand corrected. I’m sure you meant some other kind of wagon. There are so many sports analogies about wagons, you must have meant one of those. As for the winning streak, I wasn’t singing any tune. I was thrilled with the success but hardly overwhelmed by our performance, especially offensively. As for the sky, my sky, it is not effected one way or the other by any sporting event. Winning is great, losing sucks. Life goes on.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wagon, as in people who follow the team. Bandwagon is people who jump on the team after they are winning. I never implied you were that type of fan.
We are the 9th ranked offense, 8th ranked pass offense, 17th rush. Last year we were the 22nd offense, 17th in pass, 23rd in rush. After last years poor offense I am definitely impressed with the offense this year. Sorry buddy, but the statistics just don’t back up this unimpressive offense you are talking about. It is a very good offense that had one bad game.
And for someone talking about bad grammar or writing you should learn the difference between effect and affect. Not to add you completely missed the meaning of the analogy I was using.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 17, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the lesson,
very poor grammar indeed. But I wasn’t referring to your grammar, or spelling for that matter. I leave that to the grammar queens. As for your stats, stats don’t win football games. But since you like stats so much, try 15th in scoring on for size. I’m pretty sure the team with the most points at the end of the game still wins. This years team is squarely in the middle of the pack.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you weren’t referring to my grammar or spelling what were you talking about when you said the “poor quality of my writing”?
Anyway, our average scoring is 23 points a game with a progression of 13, 14, 20, 38. 28, 27, 27, 28, 12. Excluding last weeks game (that I already conceded was a very poor performance) I would say our offense has definitely been improving week in and week out. Furthermore, I believe that lower ranked scoring is more indicative of this teams slow start. Besides, I take nothing away from the Bengals, that is a very stout defense with something to prove especially in the AFC North.
This team is 2nd on defense and 9th on offense with a record of 6-3 good for a WC spot right now. That is not exactly middle of the pack.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's the deal?
I tend to steer clear of these types of debates, but I’ll make an exception for you. Your perception of this team is your own. While you are certainly entitled to your own opinion , it does not make it fact no matter how long you have been a so called fanatic. People are going to disagree with you. You knew it and even talked about it in your post. I was hoping for some well thought out debate in regards to differing opinions. Instead all I see is someone on the defensive who has to resort to name calling and mudslinging.
Because somebody disagrees with your “opinion” that means they are resorting to juvenile behavior? It’s a shame when folks make posts they know are not going to be popular and then instead of backing their claims up with substance they resort to attacking those that disagree. As for how long you’ve been following the team, who cares? You would think that somebody as “mature” as you are leading us to believe you are would not have to resort to such childish antics as name calling. It’s sad actually.
by King Coebra on Nov 19, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Name calling?
Please point out to me where I called Johnny a name. Before you make accusations you should know what the hell you are talking about. Johnny’s posts are often hostile in tone, IMO, and as yourself he likes to put words in peoples mouths that they did not say. I consider that juvenile behavior. Maybe I should have just called him stupid, but I did not.
I did not expect this post to be popular as I clearly stated. And I have been waiting for someone to please address the points that I made but I haven’t seen much of that in this thread. So far, no one has gone through the points that I made, one by one and provided any serious argument to refute them.
To Johnny’s credit, he is the only one who actually posted some stats about the offense. And I countered that with the one stat that he overlooked which is team scoring. A stat which clearly shows that no matter how big Bens numbers may have been against lesser opponents, the offense as a whole is quite average. 15th in over all scoring and a full 10% of our points have been generated by the defense.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 19, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll just neglect the entire first two paragraphs because they make you sound extremely arrogant, and foolish because of the extremely apparent oxymoron.
Anyway, I addressed your concerns on the scoring and you never responded:
Anyway, our average scoring is 23 points a game with a progression of 13, 14, 20, 38. 28, 27, 27, 28, 12. Excluding last weeks game (that I already conceded was a very poor performance) I would say our offense has definitely been improving week in and week out. Furthermore, I believe that lower ranked scoring is more indicative of this teams slow start. Besides, I take nothing away from the Bengals, that is a very stout defense with something to prove especially in the AFC North.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 19, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I give you some credit
and you jump back on the attack. Some surprise. Here’s my response to your scoring progression in reverse order. Defensive scoring is not figured into the equation
12 points against a good defense, not too impressive. result, LOSS
21 points against an obvious pretender with an aging secondary, lets not forget that we also gave up a fumble return for a touchdown which brings the offense net total to14
13 points against a pretty good defense, none in the fourth quarter
27 points against the freaking BROWNS
28 points against the freaking LIONS, pick six for a net total of 21
38 points and a quality performance
20 points and none in the fourth quarter. Result, LOSS
14 points and none in the fourth quarter. Result, LOSS
13 points
Conclusions.
Take out the games against the lions and the browns and we are averaging 18.7 points per game, rather pedestrian numbers
Eliminate the blowout against Denver which has been our only dominating offensive performance of the year against what some might call a quality opponent and that number drops to 15.5 points a game Here are some teams that average around 15 points a game. Detroit, Buffalo, KC and Washington
Figure back in the games against the lions and browns minus the denver blowout and we are right back to 18.5 points per game. Here are some teams who average around 18-19 points per game. Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Carolina
In the last three games the offensive net scoring number is 13.0 There are two teams who everage less than 13.0 points per game. Oakland and Cleveland.
These are not the kind of offensive numbes that translate into Championships, no matter how good the defense may be. And I think my points about the defense were sound.
Please feel free to disagree but when you start out your arguments with statements like, and I QUOTE,
“This team is still a SB contender, if you want to jump off please do, That way I won’t have to READ THIS NEGATIVE CRAP” ,
don’t expect me to respond back with candy and flowers. How would you expect someone to respond to such a statement. You don’t seem to be able to share you opinion without being insulting at the same time. If you don’t believe me go back and read some of your own posts. If you want be treated with respect, have some respect.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 19, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
For finally taking some time to do a bit of research to attempt to back up your unsubstantiated claims. However, how about comparing the offensive production of this years team to those of the 2005 and 2008 teams to “prove” how right your theory is.
What you are claiming, I guess, is that this year’s team on offense is incapable of delivering a Super Bowl. It’s an interesting theory and you’ve found a way to discount every performance by the offense save for one game this season. I wonder what you will find when comparing this year’s edition to the 05 and 08 squads? Our offense must have been utterly unstoppable during those two championship runs. I just can’t believe that I don’t remember it. It seems there must have been some pretty unforgettable and dominating offensive performances during those seasons.
Unfortunately, if memory serves me, our offense wasn’t overwhelming in either of those seasons either and yet they found ways to not only be Super Bowl caliber, but NFL Championship caliber. It’s convenient that you have twisted the numbers to belittle the offense this season in an attempt to prove your opinion that this team isn’t SB caliber while completely ignoring the production in the other two seasons. Prove there is a significant disparity between this season and those seasons and others might buy into your opinion.
You need to do some more legwork and prove just how much superior last year’s offense was to this year’s team. For some reason I can’t get the visions of PHI and NYG and DAL and BAL and BAL, etc, etc out of my head from last season. If you can prove that last year’s team was better offensively than this team than your argument MIGHT have some merit. Until you do so your “stats” only prove what everybody already knows. The team has to continue to improve if they want to win another championship.
I won’t even get into your assertions about Ben. Is it possible they hold some merit? Maybe. Is there any way to prove that what you assert is true? No. I think we can both agree that it’s your own unprovable opinion and leave it at that.
by King Coebra on Nov 19, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent points overall King. There’s no doubt this team has the physical ability, leadership and experience to be a SB contender and barring unforeseen collapse will be one of six AFC teams still in the hunt for a SB in the playoffs. However I am less optimistic this season than last and the mean reason is contained in your sentence: “The team has to continue to improve if they want to win another championship.” I looked at the Cincinnati game as a litmus test for how much this team has improved from Week 3 to Week 10. I see very little improvement. The same basic strengths and weaknesses are in place. The offensive line has played well all year, including Game 3 vs. Cinciinnati. Game 10 was probably their worst game of the year. Obviously people may point to the running game as being improved but I would argue the team went into the season with all the pieces in place for an improved running game, and ran the ball very well in the first half of the first Cincinnati game. Mendenhall is an improvement on Parker but In order for the running game to be improved there has to be a commitment to running the ball, and I see none in the Arians’ game plan. The Denver game was not so much a commitment to running the ball as it was an example of how good the running game can be if there is something more than a token effort. A 60-40 ratio of run to pass in that game, IMO, would have resulted in an even more convincing victory and offered some proof that Arians recognizes the value of the run. The defense in Game 2 vs. Cincinnati was pretty much the same as Game 1 vs. Cincinnati, being unable to make key stops on third downs to force punts. Farrior still can’t cover running backs. Special teams have obviously not improved. The few quality defenses this team has played have figured out how important it is to contain Ben, confuse him with blitz looks, double cover Holmes, jam the other receivers and play zone behind it. Until the team shows a commitment to running the ball, including with Ben when it’s the easiest way to have a positive play or at least allow him to get out of the pocket and break down defensive schemes with an unfettered view in front of him, they are going to struggle offensively against quality teams and in big games. The better offensive teams all have short-to-intermediate passing games which this team has shown it has trouble stopping.
Obviously there is still time to make improvement in all areas, but the overall quality of play in benchmark games against good teams, and especially a game with significant impact on the division and the playoff road to follow, suggest to me it’s going to be very difficult. The team has not played a complete game yet this year and to expect them to do so is, IMO, more wishful thinking based on last year and faith in talent rather than logical expectation based on this year’s performance. This is a more talented and complete team than last year, but it is under-performing to this point of the season.
by steeler.lifer on Nov 20, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100% with you
I have not been happy with the overall play of this team all year long. They have yet to click in all phases of the game. They have yet to put together a complete game. For every step forward they have made there seems to have been an equivalent step backwards.
The objective of my retort was to point out that the performance of this year’s offensive unit is at least in line with that of the the last couple of seasons where we won titles. If that was an inaccurate assertion then I certainly welcome somebody to do the research to prove that as being incorrect. I’ve made mistakes before and will again no doubt.
This team has perennially played their best ball in the second half of the season (at least since Ben has been drafted), so I am hopeful that they will finish strong again this year. Can I guarantee they will? Of course not. There is no doubt a bit of wishful thinking in there. But that wishful thinking is based on several factors.
1. Our Defense is again rounding into form. We have had some injuries and have lost Aaron Smith for the year and played without the likes of Polamalu, Timmons and Kirschke for significant periods of time. However, even with all the missing pieces, that unit has been solid except for the early season late game collapses against CHI and CIN. While perhaps not quite as dominant as last season, they are legitimate and have proven that they can keep the team in the game all season long. We have not been blown out by anybody and I fully expect that trend to continue for the foreseeable future.
2. Overall our offense has shown improvements in nearly every facet of the game. The OL has been much better for the majority of the season. They had a bad outing last week, which I think is a good thing. They now know they still have lots of work to do and will hopefully not be taking anything for granted. The running game is much improved and much stronger in terms of depth than it was at this same point last season. The receiving corps is strong and Ben is still Ben. There have been issues with drops (primarily Holmes) and forced balls (Ben). While being far from perfect they have proven, to me at least, to be overall better than they were last year.
3. ST play has clearly been atrocious. Reed’s missed FGs early in the season, the woeful performance of the coverage unit for most of the season, some poor punting efforts by Sepulveda and no big run backs by the return team. IMO this area of the team can’t do much worse so just based on that fact alone we should see some improvement.
4. History. The Steelers have been a second half team every year but one (2007 when they finished 1-4) with Roethlisberger at the helm. They have finished 15-1, 8-0, 6-2 and 9-1 during the other seasons. Past success does in no way guarantee future success, but it does show that the Steelers tend to play their best ball when it counts the most.
Everybody knew this was going to be a difficult season. Pittsburgh has had a target on it’s back all year long. Despite that fact they stand in exactly the same position record wise that they did last season at 6-3 through 9 games. They own head to head tiebreakers over two of their key competitors in DEN and SD. They should be favored in at least 3 of their next 4 games.
I am by no means guaranteeing this team is going to repeat as conference champions or assuming a repeat Lombardi. Unless things fall just right for them they are going to have to defeat some teams in the playoffs that they have struggled with in the past, and likely will have to do so on the road also. Winning a championship is never easy. Repeating is even more difficult.
On the other hand there is also no reason to panic or dismiss this team as having no shot at all. I find that assertion ludicrous. As you stated in your last line this IS a more talented and complete team than last year. It is for that reason that I believe they are SB caliber. Now, clearly, just like last year, they have to continue to improve and shore up some areas to reach that objective. Fortunately we also have a head coach that I and the team believe in.
I just happen to think there are far more reasons for hope and enthusiasm than there are for despair and panic. Of course not everybody has to agree with that assessment either.
by King Coebra on Nov 20, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the worst argument you could make
Take out the games against the lions and the browns and we are averaging 18.7 points per game, rather pedestrian numbers
You don’t just “take away” games. That makes absolutely no sense. They did play those games and they did score those points. Every teams points per game are inflated by bad defenses and deflated by good defenses. That is why they use averages.
Also, what is this nonsense about defensive scores not figuring into the equation? The Saints have scored a lot of points on defense this year, does that make them less of a team? No, good defenses score points and stop the other team from scoring.
And as far as using scoring averages is concerned here is another one 17.3. That is how many points per game the defense is giving up. Therefore, scoring 23 per game is more than enough to win games and a championship (if we get there).
PS-That statement concluded my argument, it did not start it. However, it is brash and I apologize for approaching the argument in that manner.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 20, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also FYI
Last years offense averaged 21.7 points per game last year and still won the SB.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 20, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
If you can’t see that you were in attack mode I certainly can’t help you out. If you want to turn a blind eye to your faults that’s on you. Calling somebody juvenile and attacking the “quality” of their writing, i guess doesn’t qualify? You’re a sharp one.
As for taking the time to go point by point through your post, it isn’t worthy of that type of response. The majority of your rambling is based on speculation and your personal opinion. You clearly had something you needed to get off your chest and you have done so. Don’t you feel better now?
As for your prediction that this team isn’t Super Bowl caliber, way to go way out on a limb. Only one team from each conference is SB caliber. We’ve made two appearances in four seasons. Therefore, from a purely mathematical and statistical point of view your bold claim appears to be nothing more than common sense. Way to go way out on a limb to provide such incredible insight.
As for your post you make a lot of claims about the health of a player here or the mindset of a player there. My only question is how are you privy to such information? My guess is that you are not and that you are making your claims based on personal opinion and pure speculation.
For example you were clearly wrong regarding the Polamalu injury. He did not reinjure his knee but sustained a different injury to the same knee. If you watched the Denver game last week TP was flying around the field and making big plays again. Clearly his knee wasn’t right and the team is hiding something from us and unnecessarily putting their star player at risk. At least from your skewed point of view.
As for Ben’s mindset how do you know what it is? Are you his best friend? His psychologist? Not likely. Just another fan with an opinion based on, well, your opinion.
I can run numbers on you all day long showing how this team has actually performed superior to last year’s team through this point in the season, but frankly, I don’t need or want to waste my time trying to convince somebody who thinks they have all the answers.
I don’t mind others having differing opinions and debating things civilly, but you haven’t been doing that. You’ve been in attack mode and quite frankly it’s nauseating. Why don’t you act your age, apologize for attacking Johnny and then try to get your point across with some factual evidence. Maybe then somebody will think about taking your “opinion” seriously.
by King Coebra on Nov 19, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 19, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me address your post since "no one" has
While the defense is still exceptional, and the drop off from last year has not been significant, the season is just past the halfway point and the lack of depth is bound to take it’s toll. Smith is gone, Timmons is dinged up, and Troy cannot be counted on to finish the season, his knee is clearly a bigger problem than anyone on the Steelers cares to admit. The defense has pride and it has heart, and it has Dick LeBeau. But it’s another year older and lacking depth. There are brutal games on the horizon and I just don’t see them holding up well enough to make a serious run through the playoffs. One more major injury and they might not even see the playoffs
Every team has to deal with injuries, not just the Steelers. DE is the position we have the most depth at. Losing Smith hurts, but clearly it has been filled very well with Travis, Nick, and Ziggy. Travis I believe practiced this week and should be back soon. Timmons will be fine as his injury is not a big deal. Polamalu hurts the most, but initial reports are the injury is not as serious as first believed. Our injury situation could just as likely get better as it could worse. This is true for every NFL team.
Big Ben is not his usual self. I mentioned this in another post and it was pooh poohed by the faithful. I’m going to say it again and if you can’t see it you are clearly in a state of denial. Big Ben isn’t right in the head for all the obvious reasons. He’s a future hall of famer and 2 time Super Bowl champ, I love the guy and expect amazing things from him in the future. But I am not so foolish to think that anyone having been accused, falsely or otherwise, of a heinous crime who is currently awaiting trial could have his head completely in anything, especially the pressure packed, fast paced, highly cerebral job of a winning NFL QB. As much as I dislike Bruce Arians playcalling, there were plays to be made yesterday, everyone gets a little blame, but Ben was not sharp and it’s not the first time this year that he was obviously out of sorts.
Ben had 1 bad game. He is on pace for career records in completions, yards, and comp%. With the “easier” part of our schedule coming up I would not be surprised if he broke his TD record too. As far as picks go, he is on pace to have about as many as last year. Ben is a professional football player and he has his head in the right place every Sunday. Please point out where Ben was “out of sorts” this year besides that game? Keep in mind every QB throws picks whether your name is Ben, Peyton, Drew, etc.
Holmes. He’s made some big plays this year. And he has left some bigger plays on the field. Hines is Hines and you can expect 100% from him every Sunday, but Hines 100% is not what it used to be and Santonio needs to step it up. It wasn’t well documented but he was struggling with a wrist injury or something earlier in the year. I’m not sure that he is completely healthy. Holmes potentially dealing with a nagging injury, Hines dealing with father time, Heath Miller spending too much time in the backfield providing support to an O-line that frankly seems to be a bit over hyped this year (which is to be expected considering what an improvement they have been from last year), add it all up and it’s a recipe for disaster.
First of all, Ward’s 100% is still damn good. He is having one of the best statistical years of his career. And seriously, do you think Hines has his head off the football field? The man is a veteran.
Holmes has been struggling more than people thought he would. And yes he did have an injury but it should be healed up now since I think it was hurt around the Bears game. I don’t know what else you expect from him considering he is putting in some pretty good numbers. He is not going to be a Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald type of player.
Heath Miller’s lack of production in the last few games has been Arians fault. He is not getting the big man involved like he was the first few games of the season. I don’t understand why since he has great hands for a TE and makes good separation.
How is that for addressing your points?
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 19, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the kind of response
I was hoping to see more of when I posted my original comments. I appreciate the civil, non confrontational or insulting tone. I will do my very best to respond in kind. Perhaps this is the beginning of a beautiful relationship. lol
Here’s my response.
I think you are underestimating the impact of the injury situation and lack of depth on the defense. I also think you are underestimating the impact that Ben’s off the field issues are having on him this year. It’s all pure speculation on my part but I have noticed that when there is some breaking bad news about his case, some setback or whatever that in those weeks his performance has seemed to suffer. I also think that Ben has padded his stats against some pretty pathetic teams this year, and under performed against some teams that he should have dominated.
I would also like to hear you thoughts on the special teams issues.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 19, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams is bad. There is no way around it. Logan has definitely brought our averages up from last year, but to me that means little to nothing. Let me explain. ST to me is all about giving your offense the advantage of field position and, if your are lucky, scores. Logan is returning the ball decently well, however because the other teams are returning it longer down the field and scoring his impact means nothing. I would rather have a guy who is a ST coverage stud who is constantly making tackles than a guy who is giving us an extra 5 less yards of field for the offense.
Logan is a good returner, but he has yet to wow me or make my jaw drop. He is quick and fast so he will ultimately get you more yards before coverage gets there. However, it appears he lacks the vision and decision making to snap a big run. We’ve played some miserable coverage teams and not seen much from him. Also, why is he bring out balls that are 7 yards deep in the endzone?
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 20, 2009 8:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben will bounce Back
I think Ben is entitled to have an off game, before freaking out go with me on this, I think Ben has played very well this season and this is really the the worst he has played thus far this season.I really do not think that his “off-field issues” has anything to do with the way he played Sunday. I agree he was off, but I have seen him off his A game before, and I have seen him bounce back the next week as I believe he will. I think the O line was not as efective this week and I think they need to get it together and I believe they will also, Im not giving up on Ben just yet and throwing him under the bus, nor am I throwing in my terrible towel, They had the same record this time last year and I think they were looking at a lot tougher schedule from here on out than they have this year. I think they will be on a mission, Ben included to get the playoffs and I think that is where they will be dangerous because everyone will be taking them lightly due to the losses to the Bengals and be more concerned with them and I hope we do get another crack at the Bengals they will be full of confidnece and trust me , after what I saw Sunday they have nothing to be confident of.They won, but they did not win with offense. I think we take them the 3rd go round and move on to the next game. I think they are a Super Bowl team and I think they will prove it.
by Jadygirl7 on Nov 18, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope we can get a new OC this upcoming off season
It makes no sense to switch it up during the season, since we still have a good chance to go to the big game this year, but if we don’t go, BA needs to pack his bags and “get on, like he’s been shit on” IMHO.
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by SteelFever on Nov 17, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are You Nuts?
There’s only one thing you said that I agree with. Stefan Logan is a good addition to our team and has improved ST. Without him we are worse off.
We are a superbowl team. Have you watched any of our games this year?
Big Ben is ok in the head. He had a really crappy day, nothing more. Yes, we do have some issues, but nothing that can’t be fixed. I think Troy’s injury really kills the team. We just aren’t the same without him. I personally miss his energy and abandon on the field because the other players are able to feed off that and play even better.
by samliam on Nov 17, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
and it’s kept me from going insane. I’ve watched all the games but one and if there was any way I could have caught that one I would have, but I have a life and a career and sometimes that takes precedence over pastime. You seem to put all your eggs in the Polomalu basket. If by your own reckoning “Troy’s injury kills this team” how does an aging D cope with not only his absence but that of Smith and Timmons as well? You are making my point for me, thanks.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's Troy's Energy
Troy’s energy makes the team different. Although we are a good team without him, we are not the same. However, we can (and do) still win games without him. Our problems are minor compared to other franchises and I think our problems are fixable.
If Ben had a good day Sunday, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. For some reason we were just “off” and I think Ben had an off day. It happens.
I don’t put all my eggs in the Polamalu basket, but I do notice a different team on the field without him. Our problem is not defense and Troy is on defense. The indefinable difference for me is Troy’s style of play. He has one speed, and it seems to be “full speed ahead.”
Maybe it’s just me, but that’s what I see.
by samliam on Nov 17, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree Somewhat...
Just FYI, Troy’s latest injury is a PCL sprain, and not a re-aggravation of his MCL from earlier this year. He’s not expected to miss a lot of time, so technically, it’s not as though he came back too early, did not rehab the MCL, and re-injured it. So we might be able to count on him to finish the season.
Also, I must agree with the person who said we shouldn’t put Ben on the shelf because of this past Sunday. Listening to postgame, he mentioned in an interview something just didn’t feel right out there, including the crowd (which I was a part of and totally agree with Ben… wow, talk about a subdued bunch). Sometimes there’s just an inexplicable consensus lack of energy in large crowds of people. Weird phenomenon. So, let’s see how he responds from here on out. If he suddenly turns into Kent Graham, I will bow to you. But let’s wait a little while before we make that judgment.
All that said, you make some good points (I especially like what you said about how cruical a time this is in Tomlin’s career). And everything you said, you backed up. So I can’t rail you like some folks on here might.
by Hines Ward on Nov 17, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
for the injury update. It doesn’t do much to change my forecast but it is encouraging news. Bigger thanks for actually reading the post before sounding off.
"Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted" Martin Luther King Jr.
by loosecannon69 on Nov 17, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Put away the "Jump to Conclusions Mat"
Who knows what a Super Bowl team looks like in Week 10?…Did the Arizona Cardinals look like a Super Bowl team this time last year? Not really. They were 6-3, and about to lose 4 of their next 7 games.
Did we look like a Super Bowl team last year at week 10? I didn’t think so. We had just lost to the Colts, at home, with Ben playing a terrible game (sound familiar?). Sure our defense may have been better, and more healthy last year, but our offense was appalling…not only were people calling for the head of Arians, but people were actually questioning Ben…some wanting to trade/cut Parker.
The bottom line is that in the NFL, you can only evaluate week to week. Monday night, did we look like an elite team? Not at all. But, we sure looked ok the week before while we whooped the Broncos, in Denver. And we didn’t look too bad when we handed the Vikes they’re only loss.
The most important aspect of sports is execution. It doesn’t matter how much, or how little talent a team has…if they execute, they have a strong chance to win. If they don’t, they’re likely to lose. To predict anything more than that, especially an outcome that is 3 months away, is pointless.
I’m not going to give up on this team going to the Super Bowl, because Mike Tomlin, Dick LeBeau, Ben, Hines, Troy, Farrior, et al haven’t either. And they’re in a much greater position to know the capabilities of this team than I am.
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 17, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
its still only slightly past the halfway mark and there is a ton of football left to be played. I am in the minority about B.A. he hasn’t done too bad up to now. Ben likes him and as long as the $100 million dollar franchise player is happy I don’t see why a change should be made there. I have no worries at all about the offense. They had “one of those days” it happens. Especially after a Monday night game, every team normally comes out looking less than stellar after a Monday game. Having to travel across the country didn’t help much either. My concern is the special teams. I simply don’t get it. The Steelers coverage teams if I am not mistaken was the leagues best last year and now with the same personnel it is possibly the worst in franchise history if they give up one more TD. The defense is steadily improving. Is it as great as the 2008 defense?? No, but they don’t have to be. They are starting to get better every week and they are light years ahead of where they were at the beginning of the season. Super Bowl material?? Who knows time will tell. But the Steelers still have right now the deepest and most talented team from top to bottom in the NFL by far bar none, as well as arguably the best coaching staff in the league. They also are one of only a handful of teams that can be expected to win in any opposing stadium. If they are healthy by the time the playoffs roll around, the only team capable of stopping Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh.
by BubbyBrister6 on Nov 17, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quit your job at the National Enquirer, did you?
Your concerns don’t quite add up to the conclusion your headline purports.
All teams have and are concerned with injuries especially to key players, it’s not unique to us or to this season, last year it was Big Ben’s shoulder, learn to deal. As for Big Ben this year, he’s healthy and he’s Big Ben, Holmes injured his wrist in the Titans game and he’s dealing with it, be patient.
The defense is getting better.
Special teams took a promising step today towards standing on it’s own and competing rather than being the liability it has been these past few weeks, so again be patient.
Arians was figured out a long time ago, this is by far the most significant and legitimate concern but the brightside is we do have some kick-ass playmakers on offense, so lets hope much like last season they can improvise just enough to overcome Arians’ immense incompetence.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 17, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some of us fans are sore losers as well.
Last year’s team at this point was hardly a Super Bowl contender. You’re going to honestly say after the Eagles, Cowboys, and Colts games last year that you thought we were a Super Bowl team? That’s just comical.
Ben was hurt all year, our o-line was horrible, and we had to rely on our defense to score for us often. This year our o-line is much improved, Ben is healthy, and our defense has been good even without Troy. If we’re not a contender, that means we’re hardly even a playoff team either. And that’s not true at all.
Just because the Steelers don’t dominate the way they did in the 70’s doesn’t mean that they aren’t a Super Bowl contender. I thought we all understood that by now.
by StoneColdSteel on Nov 17, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This game was so bad ...
that it’s useless to analyze it or consider it as a harbinger of things to come. The Steelers just need to put this one behind them and maybe learn something from a really horrible offensive performance. We had a letdown, pure and simple. So what?
by Billy52 on Nov 17, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quick Note
The fact that the Steelers are 12-1 in primetime games under Mike Tomlin says that if we get to the playoffs (I wouldn’t expect anything different), then we’re Super Bowl contenders. Injuries don’t change that level of expectation.
"Money isn't the world, anyway. Ain't no price tag on winning. Winning and making history is something you can't buy. Me? I'm a guy who loves history. When I'm 60 or 70, I don't want to be remembered for the money I made. I want to be in the history books." -- Lamarr Woodley
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Nov 18, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
loosecannon
the name fits you well….
by steelerholic on Nov 18, 2009 4:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised there's no surf boards out here
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
W
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 18, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by SteelFever on Nov 18, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
V
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
E
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 18, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
W
A knew someone from Cali would find the wave first
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A
double wave?
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by SteelFever on Nov 18, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
F
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
F
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
L
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
E
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you say Wave Waffles?
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the morning I'm making them
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how bout we go to Roscoe’s Chicken n Waffles?
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 18, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
will Daisey be there?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben has one bad game and all of a sudden "he's not right in the head|
oooooooook.
Big Ben is having his best year of his career, in my opinion, so far.
To me, it’s all about Troy.
With him, we’re a Super Bowl contender.
Without him, we’re a wild card.
by Freddyd on Nov 18, 2009 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Even if Troy was on the field right now we would probably still end up a WC. Troy has no effect on how Cinci finishes the season.
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Troy is on the field, we won't lose another game.
If Cincy loses 2 of the next 7 games (Very possible with games @Minny, @San Diego, @NY Jets) we get the #2 seed.
by Freddyd on Nov 18, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We’ve lost games with Troy on the field before.
Wall of Shame
"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if the offense doesn’t score any points, it’s real hard to win
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause he has not played that many. Troy is a very, very good football player. However, he only plays on one side of the ball.
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Troy likes puppies
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 18, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any stats to back that up?
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Nov 18, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just visual evidence
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Troy is more than very good.
by StoneColdSteel on Nov 18, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like very, very good?
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 19, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not cool to point out Steeler weaknesses here at BTSC; apparently we’re all supposed to blindly believe in the team and never, ever point out flaws. The Pittsburgh Steelers are ALWAYS SB contenders at this site. Ahem. As much as I wish it was true….
Unless we happen to be one of the “in-crowd”.
Sadly, BTSC is as clique-ish as any other website…
by tobiathan on Nov 18, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want a "members only" jacket
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Nov 18, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you can be the only member?
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by SteelFever on Nov 18, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we are the cool kids and you are the nerds in the corner. Nice pocket protector dweeb.
I can understand thinking the Steelers have weaknesses, but to say it is Big Ben is just plain wrong. He is having one of the best seasons in his career. It just doesn’t add up. Sorry
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"I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Brownie's Year
"BB is ok (slightly overated)…but he is NO Kyle Orton! I’ll take Kyle over Ben any day" - Bronco_Fan_Tom
by Johnny_S on Nov 18, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Johnny give it up
Some people can’t face the fact this ain’t Terry Bradshaw’s team anymore. We got a lot of older fans on here that think it’s supposed to be 1978 every year. You’ll never convince them otherwise, so don’t try.
by StoneColdSteel on Nov 18, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't win a Super Bowl every year
It’s logical you can’t expect to win a Super Bowl every year, but to me, this is a special year, a year to prove all the haters that we are capable of a repeat! I agree with the comments above saying last year around this time it was the same thing, and honesly, Ben’s having a good year in my book, much better statistically than last years. The D isn’t as great as last year but last year’s defense was definitely one of the better defenses of the past 5-10 years some even say it was top 10-20 all-time. S0, time will tell Steelers’ fans, time will tell. Le’s just hope on a Cincy collapse and we get the division OR, we secure the Wild Card and hopefully meet Cincy in the playoffs and knock them out then, cuz even if we went 1-2 against them for the season that one win will be OH SO SWEEEET
by Cheex on Nov 18, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lets take a step back for a second.
If it weren’t for a few bad plays, bad special teams, and unlucky breaks, they would be 10-0. Lets review.
1st loss to the bears. Missed field goals. Blame Reed.
2nd loss to bengals. Again, missed field goals, and lack of preparation. I think they weren’t prepared for the bengals to be so good. And only the 2nd game to make adjustments for the lack of Troy’s brain in the defense.
3rd loss. Limp and ineffective offense. Not explosive off the snap. Would have been a tie game had there not been a kick off returned for a touchdown. That happens often with this special teams play.
Football is a game of inches, and the ball bounces in one direction and you get slammed(see the vikings game). Last year the steelers got some bounces and some breaks. Not this year, and they have to work a bit harder to overcome. This is what separates a fluke from a quality team.
by IronJake on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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