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2010 NFL Mock Draft : Updated 11/20


First of all, sorry I'm a day late in posting this, I couldn't find the time to do it yesterday.  There haven't been many changes from the previous weeks selections. Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett is the one player who is making this difficult for me. He's got all the talent you'd want in a QB but is still considered raw. Some team will most likely trade back into the latter half of the first round to get him. Of Course this is contingent on whether Mallett decides to leave school early. I'm sure that my Steelers pick for this week is going to draw a lot of conversation in the comments section, and as always I look forward to hearing what you have to say.

 

 1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Ndamukong Suh DT, Nebraska
I really don’t like the idea of mocking a DT as the number one overall pick. But the Bucs don’t need a QB or a LT so Suh wins by default since their other greatest need is a WR but there isn’t one worthy of this high a pick. Right now their most pressing need is for someone to collapse the pocket and Suh can do that very well. Suh is the type of 3 down, 2-gap player that is perfect for defensive coordinator Jim Bates’ scheme.

2. Cleveland Browns: Eric Berry S, Tennessee
Cleveland needs help everywhere. This franchise is a disaster. I could possibly see them going after a QB since neither Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson seem to want the job in which case they would go for Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen. Already having a cornerstone LT in Joe Thomas means they won’t target OK ST OT Russell Okung. Berry is pretty much the consensus best player in college football and is a once a decade talent in the mold of Ed Reed. Cleveland has seen first hand what a great safety can do for a franchise with division examples like Reed and Troy Polamalu. In the event that team owner Randy Learner cans coach Mangini at the end of his first season, this will most definitely change to QB. I know it sounds absurd that Learner would fire him after only one season, but what’s one more executive on the payroll who’s no longer on the team. Don’t be surprised to see Cleveland trade back again to acquire more picks with someone looking to snag Okung or Clausen.

3. St. Louis Rams: Jimmy Clausen QB, Notre Dame
The Rams number one priority this off season will be to find a new Quarterback. There’s no debate about it. In the last two years they have passed on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez. Clausen is having a great season and scouts will love the fact that he plays in a pro-style offense under center. If for some reason the Rams management thinks that Marc Bulger has any gas left in the tank they might consider taking the best defensive player available which would be Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy.

4. Detroit Lions: Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
The Lions need a cornerstone LT to protect their 40 million dollar man in Matt Stafford. Okung is the top LT prospect and plays a near-flawless game. He's athletic, uses his hands very well, and has quick feet to get out in front of speed rushers. If Okung is off the board at this point, look for the Lions to take the best defensive player available or trade back to acquire more picks.

5. Oakland Raiders: Gerald McCoy DT, Oklahoma
I continue to waffle on this pick. McCoy would be a great pick but Al Davis’ love for speed might be too big to pass on USC Safety Taylor Mays. Mays will stumble out of the top 10 to 15 on draft day if he falls past Oakland. If Oakland comes to its senses and picks a replacement for the failed JaMarcus Russell experiment, Davis will surely go with Washington QB Jake Locker. Locker has the arm strength to throw the deep passes and is very mobile with a 4.6 40 time. And don’t be surprised if Davis goes with Florida DE Carlos Dunlap, whose freakish measurables Davis with also love.  

6. Kansas City Chiefs: Bruce Campbell OT, Maryland
Matt Cassell needs a LT that will give him enough time to throw the ball down field. KC spent a lot of money on Cassell and it would be nice if they got a return on their investment. It would also allow them to move 2008 1st round pick Brandon Albert to LG, his natural position, since it doesn't seem like he can make it playing on the outside. Campbell is showing strong play this season and is very similar to Okung. With Berry already off the board there are no other elite prospects available at a position of need for the Chiefs to consider with a top 5 pick. In the event that KC decides to skip on Campbell given his injury history, look for them to trade back several spots and target USC tackle Charles Brown or Florida CB Joe Hayden.

7. Washington Redskins: Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
With the way Jason Campbell is continuing his poor play the Redskins(Dan Snyder) will definitely look to replace him, regardless of the fact that Snyder’s impatience with head coaches and coordinators is the reason for it or not. In all likelihood Coach Zorn will be fired at the end of the season. Regardless of whom Snyder gets to replace him they will want to bring a new QB to start fresh. A better pick would be an OT but Snyder is going to go with a flashy, big name like Bradford. As ESPN has reported, Bradford is having his shoulder operated on by the renowned Dr. James Andrews, who also just happens to be the Redskins team doctor. So Snyder will definitely have the inside track on whether Bradford’s shoulder is going to hold up. If Snyder doesn’t think Bradford shoulder will hold up they may target Washington’s Jake Locker or even Arkansas’ Ryan Mallett.

8. Buffalo Bills: Charles Brown OT, USC
Look for the Bills to replace the gaping hole left by the Jason Peters trade to Philly unless one of the top tier prospects like McCoy fall.  McCoy would be perfect to help the Bills horrendous run defense but they will have to trade up to get him. This is a little high for Brown but he’s the only OT prospect left who projects to play on the left side with the struggles of Oklahoma OT Trent Williams and the injuries to Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga.

9. Seattle Seahawks: Jake Locker QB, Washington
Without any top tier left tackle prospects left to replace the aging Walter Jones, look for the Hawks to find an heir apparent to often injured Matt Hasselbeck. Locker comes from a shotgun style offense and will take some time to develop, but he’s a solid player with a strong arm and great mobility. If Charles Brown or Bruce Campbell manages to slip then I would expect the Seahawks to go for one of them and try to find a project QB later in the draft such as Old Miss. QB Jevan Snead, Arkansas’ Ryan Mallett, or even Texas’ Colt McCoy.

10. Tennessee Titans: Joe Hayden CB, Florida
Who would have thought that Vince Young would turn this season around? The Titans are starting to show a glimmer of hope after the most disappointing start a team could have. They have multiple needs but Young’s play so far means they won’t be looking for a QB. Cornerback is their biggest need and Hayden is the best in this year’s crop. His stock is continuing to grow with each passing week as he is having a great year. The loss of Albert Haynesworth to free agency has exposed the lack of playmakers in the backfield of this defense so they may also look to trade up for Gerald McCoy as he is the most polished DT prospect and has a quick burst and is great at using his hands to shed blockers.

11. Denver Broncos(via Chicago Bears): Rolando McClain ILB, Alabama
The Broncos have very few holes to fill although they are starting to fall apart. After going 6-0 they have been exposed for their lack of the deep ball. If given the opportunity they may look to go QB with this pick if one of the top prospects at the position slips. With Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokley, and Brandon Marshall they really need a strong armed QB that can sling it downfield.  Look for them to take the best defensive player available if none of the QB’s slip down this far. McClain is continuing to rise up draft boards and would be a perfect fit considering he already plays in a 3-4 defense at Alabama. Another consideration would be a NT like Alabama’s Terrence Cody, be he’s starting to fall due to conditioning concerns.

12. New York Jets: Donovan Warren CB, Michigan
Having found a legitimate down field threat, at least for now, in the trade for Braylon Edwards, the Jets will most likely look for someone to play opposite Darrell Revis. They may also look for defensive line help, especially at DT where Kris Jenkins has had the second season-ending injury of his career. They also need defensive ends that can play in a 3-4 but none are worthy of a pick this high. If the Jets decide to go wide receiver look for them to possibly take USC WR Damian Williams, whom QB Mark Sanchez had a great re pore with during his last year in college and will almost assuridy lobby for.

13. San Francisco 49ers(via Carolina Panthers): Bryan Bulaga OT, Iowa
The 49ers greatest need is a RT to play opposite Joe Staley. I know this seems high for a right tackle but having a road grader to open up more running lanes for Frank Gore is worth the price. Bulaga has had a down season with injuries and a thyroid condition but would be a perfect fit at RT at the pro level with his work ethic and run-blocking ability. Other options may be Florida CB Joe Hayden if he’s available or Alabama ILB Rolando McClain who is continuing to rise up draft boards although they have a greater need of an OLB.

14. San Francisco 49ers: Taylor Mays S, USC
Having already taken care of the o-line with their previous pick and the emergence of QB Alex Smith the 49ers will turn their attention to the defense. As many who have read my mock draft before already know, I’m not very high on Mays. He plays without discipline, has stiff hips, takes poor angles, and is usually more worried about laying someone out rather than holding his coverage. But there’s no denying his physical attributes, and Coach Singletary is just the right person to teach him how to play. Plus, he’s big and strong enough that he could possibly be moved to OLB where he could truly be a force.

15. Miami Dolphins: Terrence Cody DT, Alabama
With the secondary shored up in last years draft look for the Fins to plug up their defensive front. They have been using aging veterans to plug the gaps for some time and could really use a shot of youth. Alternatives here could be help at linebacker. Team architect Bill Parcells may not look favorably on Codys prior weight issues in which case he may go for a receiver to help the progression of young QB Chad Henne. The best option would be USC WR Damian Williams, who many consider to be the most complete WR in the draft.

16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
The Jags need a number one receiver despite being burned by plenty of them in recent years(Matt Jones, Reggie Williams) and find one in Bryant. I know Jags owner Wayne Weaver insists that he will draft Florida QB Tim Tebow if he gets the opportunity but Tebow is not a first round talent and will be available in the second or third round. The recent suspension of Bryant for lying about conversations with Deion Sanders will not hurt is draft stock. He’s got all the intangibles you look for in a receiver and looks a lot like Andre Johnson did when he came out of Miami. Another option here would be a 4-3 defensive end as the Jags make the transition back to after a woeful attempt at using a 3-4 in which case Georgia Tech DE Derrick Morgan would be a good option as his stock is continuing to rise.

17. Green Bay Packers: Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
Green Bay will take the best tackle available after watching QB Aaron Rogers eat dirt every week. It’s obvious that Rogers is starting to show that the never-ending beatings he’s taken are taking a toll on him. The only other consideration would be to add an OLB to replace Aaron Kampman who’s in the final year of his contact and clearly not comfortable making the switch from DE to OLB.

18. New York Giants: Morgan Burnett S, Georgia Tech
Previously I would’ve thought the Giants would continue to stock pile D-linemen but they have been shredded through the air and could really use a Free Safety to play opposite Kenny Phillips who was lost for the year with a serious injury.  

19. Baltimore Ravens: Jermaine Gresham TE, Oklahoma
Todd Heap has been surprisingly healthy so far but the Ravens will still need to find an eventual replacement for him. Gresham is the type of speedy, pass catching TE that is perfect for the development of QB Joe Flacco. Even though he's out with a knee injury for the rest of the year, he will have plenty of time to rehab before the NFL combine. A lot of people will think that the Ravens will draft a CB, especially considering how badly they have been torched through the air, but the Ravens draft on value and if Gresham wouldn’t have hurt his knee this year he would’ve been a top 10-15 pick. Plus there won’t be any other first round CB’s left. Another option would be to find a WR such as LSU’s Brandon LaFell.

20. Houston Texans: Earl Thomas S, Texas
The Texans need help in multiple areas but the biggest concern is in the secondary, especially if they let the unhappy Dunta Robinson leave via free agency in the offseason. Thomas is only a red shirt sophomore but is having a great year, even though many draft fans are wary of Texas safeties. If not Thomas they may consider GT S Morgan Burnett.

21. Atlanta Falcons: Navorro Bowman OLB, Penn State
The Falcons will take the best defensive player available. Previously I had them taking Old Miss. DE Greg Hardy but he has some injury issues and has just been lost for the season. Look for the Falcons to also target a CB if another prospect emerges. Bowman is a beast with great physical tools.

22. Philadelphia Eagles: Derrick Morgan DE, Georgia Tech
Without any tackle prospects left to replace the often injured Shawn Andrews, look for the Eagles to take the top DE or Linebacker prospect available. Morgan is having a great year and would go much higher if not for the fact that so many teams now employ a 3-4 defense and he is better suited for a 4-3, although some team may decide to try and switch him to an OLB.

23. Dallas Cowboys: Damian Williams WR, USC
Even with the sudden appearance of Mile Austin, look for the Cowboys to upgrade their receiving ranks. Williams can also sub for often injured Felix Jones on kick return duties. Other options may be to take the best defensive player available. I could also see them taking an OT to replace the aging Flozell Adams if Trent Williams or Charles Brown falls to them.

24. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver Broncos): Anthony Davis OT, Rutgers
Having taken care of their QB needs earlier in the draft, the Seahawks will look to take the best OT available. Walter Jones will probably retire at the end of the season and Sean Locklear cannot stay healthy. They will need someone to keep Matt Hasselbeck upright long enough for them to develop Jake Locker. They may also look for a RB, but they should be able to grab either Cal’s Jahvid Best or Georgia Tech’s Jonathan Dwyer in the second round.

25. Arizona Cardinals: Jason Fox OT, Miami
Arizona needs LT help bad. They drafted Levi Brown a couple years ago to be a RT when they thought Matt Leinart, a lefty, would be the QB of the future. Well he hasn't been so far and Warner is suffering because of it. This is high for Fox so look for the Cards’ to also consider taking the best defensive player available. If Charles Brown manages to slip a few spots back don't be surprised to see the Cards trade up to snag him.

26. San Diego Chargers: Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
Assuming they resign LT Marcus McNeill and in all probability franchise tag Shawn Merriman, they will most likely target someone to play opposite budding wideout Vincent Jackson. Other options may be to take Clemson RB C.J. Spiller since they will most likely lose either Darren Sproles to free agency or cut LaDainian Tomlinson after the season, Bama NT Terrence Cody to replace the aging Jamal Williams. LaFell fits the mold of a taller wideout that the Chargers prefer.

27. Pittsburgh Steelers: C.J. Spiller RB, Clemson
For the last few weeks I’ve had the Steelers taking either a safety who could replace Ryan Clark given that he’s in the final year of his contract and he’s over 30 years old or a lineman to add to the teams’ depth. But after the continual disappointment of the special teams this pick has to be Spiller if he’s available. Willie Parker is most likely not going to be resigned in the off season and Spiller would be a great speedy compliment to Mendenhall’s power for a lot less cost than Parker. But more importantly he would also fill what has become a dire position of need over the years as a return man. Stephan Logan has been serviceable but it’s inefficient to have a return specialist on the active roster plus he can’t manage to down a kickoff for a touchback even when he’s 7 yards deep. I’m positive Ryan Clark will take a discount to finish his career in the Burgh. The same goes for Tyrone Carter as well. Plus they will still be able to find a quality Safety in rounds two or three. South Florida Safety Nate Allen may even still be available in round two. An option I’ve been high on is Alabama NT Terrence Cody if he manages to slip, which many think he will do considering his weight issues. He’s managed to lose almost 50 pounds in the last year and keep the weight off so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could continue that positive trend into the NFL, especially with the right guidance. Weight issues or not, we’re going to need someone large enough to anchor our defense so our linebackers can continue to flow freely to the opposing QB. Casey Hampton is 32 years old and in the final year of his contract, and with two Super Bowl rings already on his chubby fingers he may seek a big pay day somewhere else.  I’ve seen mock drafts where Cody is a top 10-15 pick and some where he doesn’t even go in the first round. The offensive line has been getting better every week and no longer seems like a dire position of need, but Idaho’s Mike Iupati could fill the one weak point at RG where Darnell Stapleton and Trai Essex are lacking and rookie Craig Urbik didn’t show much during the off season. He’s a big road grader and could possibly slide over and play RT if Willie Colon leaves via free agency. Of course there’s also a chance we may be able to get him or Alabama OG Mike Johnson in the second or third round. Cornerback could also be another option considering none of the rookies from last year have seemed to distinguish themselves, although it’s definitely too early to tell. To a lesser extent would be to find an eventual replacement for James Farrior. He’s playing at a high level this year but he’s 34 years old and since it takes a couple years for linebackers to learn our system anyway it would be nice to find his replacement now. A lot of people are high on Florida ILB Brandon Spikes, who may be great against the run but is somewhat of a liability in zone coverage. A player I really like in the later rounds would be Baylor’s ILB Joe Pawelek. One player I would love for the Steelers to take in the second or third round would be Stanford RB Toby Gerhart. Anyone who watches him has to be in love with his power. He’s like Mike Alstott, only bigger.

28. New England Patriots: Sergio Kindle DL/OLB, Texas
The Patriots need more youth and depth in their linebacking corps. Kindle lines up all over the field for Texas and is the sort of versatile player Belichick loves. And speaking of versatility, it wouldn’t shock me to see them draft Tim Tebow. He could be their QB for life after Brady. And yes I know this is high for a QB who could be a back-up for a few years, but he can also serve as an H-back and be put in for trick plays such as the Wildcat. He also has that air of smugness that reminds me of Brady that I hate so much.

29. Cincinnati Bengals: Jahvid Best RB, Cal
The Bengals don’t have many real needs at this point, so look for them to take Best, who would be a good compliment to the emerging Cedric Benson. Best has sustained a concussion in consecutive weeks and is now seen as somewhat of an injury risk, be he’s probably the most complete back right now in this draft.

30. Minnesota Vikings: Carlos Dunlap DE, Florida
Anyone who’s read my mock draft before knows I’m not big on Dunlap and I have likened him to Vernon Gholston. But there’s no denying his physical gifts and perhaps the decorated D-linemen of the Vikings can get him to focus. The one weak link is the end spot opposite Jared Allen. They may also consider future replacements for the Williams boys such as Rickey Sapp of Clemson, Jared Odrick from Penn State, or Arthur Jones of Syracuse. Also, don’t be surprised if the Vikings pick a QB like Arkansas’ Ryan Mallett, who’s very raw but has all the qualities you would want in a QB.

31. Indianapolis Colts: Jerry Hughes DE/OLB, TCU
As always, the defense is the weak spot on this team. The Colts will take the best available defensive player which may also be a CB. Also, don’t be surprised to see them trade up for a LT prospect to replace Tony Ugoh.

32. New Orleans Saints: Sean Weatherspoon OLB, Missouri
The Saints will continue to add to an improving defense. Weatherspoon is probably the best OLB suited to play in a base 4-3 defense and would be a great addition to the Saints.

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I believe we have plenty of depth at RB (Rashard, MeMo, Redman, Tank, and Logan). I have said in a couple threads where I see us needing safety depth Strong and free. D-line is pretty locked up for now, so is the LB corps. We could stand to get a TE to develop to compliment Heeeeaaaath!

On the other hand, I could see us getting another QB in a later round. Batch is a solid back up, but how old is he now? He’ll be 35 on December 5th. Dixon-your-mouth may be a solid back up to Benjamin, eventually…but how long is his contract? I see him maybe leaving for a shot at a starting, and then where will that leave us?

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by SteelFever on Nov 20, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

B. Leftwich to be back with Steelers next year

After he is released from Tampa in the offseason, I think he’ll be back with the Steelers. Tomlin loves Leftwich and it’d keep us from wasting a draft pick on another young QB. However, I would consider drafting the QB from Penn State in the mid to late rounds. I believe that guy is a football player first and a QB second.

by datruth4life on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope you are right

I liked Leftwich when he was here. He played quickly, not very mobile, but three or four seconds after the snap, and the ball was gone.

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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 20, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea I've been thinking that

Lefty fits our run-and-gun style very well, that’s why he had the success he did. He’d be a good pickup because most teams won’t want him, and he really seemed to gel here.

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by HighSchoolSteeler on Nov 21, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lefty is also 29 about to turn 30 in January

He left the Steelers to land a starting job. I don’t think he will come back just to be a second or third fiddle. Besides, the only reason he was brought in at all was because of injury to Batch and Ben (if I remember correctly), because Dixon-your-mouth wasn’t ready to start.

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

Batch is old and I believe his contract is expiring at the end of the year, and while he’d probably be a cheap resigning, you have to wonder if he has it left anymore. As for the starting job, I don’t think any teams really see him as their starter, unless they’re desperate, so I think Lefty would be glad to return to Pittsburgh. Keep in mind that Tampa did sign him to a 2 year deal, so it’s not a definite they release him after this season.

BTSC Obituaries

OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.

by HighSchoolSteeler on Nov 21, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Browns could use a tried and tested QB...

Raiders, Bills, Niners, Redskins…you get the idea…

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Might be the year to trade up

I think the Steelers will have 9 draft picks this year (and I don’t see another 9 rookies making next year’s team). In the first round, I think they could got LT/RT, CB, DL. I don’t believe in taking a safety in the first round unless he is Troy P. or Ed Reed.

Would love to have a tackle that can play on the left or right side to groom. Cody is a consideration, but you can get a NT later on as well. I still hope that they contact the Rams and offer a 2nd and 5th round pick for Steven Davis. That would go a long way to helping the Steelers return to having a top 5 running game.

Ben is still most effective when the Steelers have a viable running game. I hope Arians and company figures that out before it is too late this year. And with the 2 losses to the Bengals this year, that showed me that the current OL just isn’t good enough. They now have to draft to first beat the Bengals and then the rest of the NFL.

by datruth4life on Nov 20, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Steven Davis?

Didn’t he retire years ago? You meant Steven Jackson right? I sincerely doubt the Rams would be willing to trade him. And even if they did, he’s a top 3 running back in the prime of his career. It would tack a lot more than a 2nd and a 5th to get him. Most likely it would take a 1st, 2 3rds, and a 5th. Which is way too rich for the Steelers to give up. They value there draft picks too much. Plus the Steelers are not the type of team that is going to pay a RB 7 million a year which is what Jackson’s contract would be. It’s still a nice thought though.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cody is a consideration, but you can get a NT later on as well.

I’m higher than most people on Cody, because I see the value of a good DT. what happened to the Chargers run D? they lost their NT. What happened to Carolina’s run D? they lost their best DT. And a reason why I’m so high on him is he plays 3-4 NT in college. Most other NTs were DTs in college.

by Steel in FL on Nov 20, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two things...

First, I don’t see a scenario where we take a RB in the first round… again. Two in team replacement possibilities are Redman (you know, practice squad Jeebus) and making Stephan Logan a HB, which is what he really is. Kills two birds with one stone. No need for a roster spot for a return “specialist” if he’s a third RB too.

Second, what are the odds of the Bucs taking Eric Berry first overall? Of course this is based solely on your mock. Suh is a rare athlete, but as you said DT #1 overall!? I mean, his talent makes me think he’s worth the pick, but Berry is… well… Berry. And TB is thin at safety.

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 20, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think Spiller is more than just a return specialist. It’s just that he is very good in that area. Logan I just don’t see making it as a running back in the NFL. For one, he’s very small. Plus, even though he’s technically a rookie he’s also 27 or 28 years old(Can’t remember which off of the top of my head). Personally I think Spiller is a special kid. Even though he’s categorized as a “Speed” back, he runs with good balance and power. And he’s tough. I know many in the Steeler nation feel as though Redman is the future for our team, the fact remains that he can’t even make our active roster. Yes he was great in the preseason, but no other team has given him a chance either. Merwelde Moore is great and will continue to be our 3rd down back. Frank “The Tank”(fatass) needs to lose some weight before I would even consider him a viable option.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Never said he was a return specialist...

I sent you mixed messages with my post. I was saying that we have a third option at RB already on the roster. Isaac Redman could be our third option or shift Logan back to half back for 53 man roster purposes. That way he wouldn’t just be a return man, and he wouldn’t be taking up a roster spot as just a return man, he would then be our returner and third option at HB (Coach loves flexibility). Never sold on the Tank, but we’ll see if he can do something for us at some point. I’m not ready to scrap him yet.

Honestly, I think we missed out on the more talented back from Clemson, James Davis. Spiller has that flashy speed, and don’t get me wrong, he’s a solid RB too. But I think James Davis was a more well rounded player. I’d bet he ends up starting for the Browns at some point.

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 20, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally I hope Tampa does draft Berry with the first overall pick, and keeps him away from the Brownies,or as I like to call them “The mistake by the lake.” We already have to play Ed Reed twice a year, I certainly don’t want to play Berry twice as well.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bucs struggle against the run

Their safetys are young and improving. I think if Bucs pick first they pick Suh.

by Steel in FL on Nov 20, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In the first round, I would like a ball hawk for the secondary. Someone who could make an interception if Troy was out.

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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 20, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would love that but...

where we are picking in the draft there just won’t be any available of value for the pick. Last week I had South Florida Safety Nate Allen, but the truth is that he will probably be available in the second round. The week before I had Georgia Tech Safety Morgan Burnett but his value has continued to rise and he probably won’t be available for us to pick.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There is a chance that we take Virginia CB Ras-I Dowling, who has the size and range to be converted to FS. I did give some thought to that but ended up going with Spiller because of the likelihood that Ryan Clark is resigned and the hope that Ryan Mundy develops into a solid Safety option.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have insight on how Keenan Lewis, and Joe Burnett are coming along?

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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 20, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope we do anything we can for Mr. Berry to be a steeler...

Get ahold of the pope to send god a bribe…berry, polamalu backfield would be nasty..although i love mr. Clark so much as well, he even shares my last name.

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by SunshineSteeler on Nov 20, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berry would be a WET dream come true

But there is no way we would be able to get him. He’s a top 5 pick for sure and it would take every pick in our draft to move up to get him.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best has sustained a concussion in consecutive weeks

Wait, when was the second one? Did I miss that?

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by Johnny_S on Nov 20, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oregon State and Arizona State. Everyone knows about the end zone leap against OSU, but the week before against ASU he suffered a mild concussion.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow

I did not know that. That was a terrible decision by his coaches to put him back out there. Jeez

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by Johnny_S on Nov 20, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Big_Jay71...

Have you seen Syd’Quan Thompson, the CB from Cal? Despite the fact we drafted two CB’s last year (Burnett has played a little, Lewis, not so much), I like this guy… a lot. I see him as an Antoine Winfield type. Undersized, but more than willing to stick his nose in a pile. A solid tackler and a good coverage guy. Any thoughts?

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 20, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I love Thompson, I think he’s a great player. Very fast and physical for a guy his size. But his height is holding him back much like Alphonso Smith last year. As with Smith, if he were only 3 inches taller he would be a sure fire 1st round pick and battling to be the first CB taken. As it stands now, Thompson is a fringe 2nd rounder.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it...

All the better for picking him up say… around 64th overall?

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 20, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He would be a great pick up but I don’t see the Steelers taking another CB given they invested in two of them in the last draft. I’m sure they will wait another year to see how Lewis and Burnett pan out. Don’t forget, we had to cut Anthony Madison who was our best special teams player from the year before so that we could keep both of them.

by big_jay71 on Nov 20, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No no no we would never draft Spillman in the first.

If we draft a RB it would be in later rounds. Redman looked good in the preseason just not in NFL shape. He wasn’t invited to the combine, so he didn’t have the opportunity others had. While I don’t think that anybody left on the board is somebody we would be interested in, I really don’t think we draft Spiller. Especially after drafting Wallace and Burnett.

by Steel in FL on Nov 20, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This year we need to focus on the big uglies

I think we are very good at the skill positions and will be even better once our younger guys get on the field. If Limas can eveer get his act together we’ll be set for a while. And I think Kevin Burnett might be a gem. I saw this guy when he was at UCF and he was always making plays whether he was at safety or returning punts.

The one guy that I hope improves a lot in the offseason is Urbick. I thought he was a pretty good blocker at Wisconsin, but it hasn’t translated to the field yet.

But we have to restock the offensive and defensive lines first and fourmost.

by StoneColdSteel on Nov 20, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

esspecially D-line

O-line is young D-line not so much. maybe secondary

by Steel in FL on Nov 21, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like spiller

when i saw the mock pick i was like spiller why him. now I like spiller ‘s game changing speed look at chris johnson, or felix jones when healthy. go to youtube and check out the highlights. imagine spiller’s speed and wallaces speed together with mendy,holmes,ward,miller, and yes sweed weapons weapons weapons for ben. patrick robinson cb from florida state i would like although drafted 2 cb last year.

by playboy722 on Nov 21, 2009 2:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Spiller is a lot better than Bush. Spiller is known as a speed back but plays tough where as Reggie Bush is nothing but pure speed and tries to avoid being hit.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think we will be able to get Cody, but...

.
I wonder if it is possible to take a different tack regarding a 3-4 nose tackle. I had posed the question on this site as to whether the Steelers would possibly take a RFA, since there are a couple decent DTs who will be available. The idea was shot down, and probably should have been. But I’m still wondering about alternatives. The Steelers mostly just don’t do what so many other teams do. They find effective talent by other means. So I was wondering if another top-notch late-first-round DT, transferring to DE would make it possible to use a lesser mortal at Nose Tackle. It is true that Aaron Smith is a stud, but I think that Hood is going to be even better. And an overlooked talent like Brian Price at somewhere between spot 26 and 32 of the first could be just the ticket to assertively upgrade Kiesel’s role when he retires. With two stud bookends, can the textbook case for a mountainous nose tackle be somewhat altered to include a lesser mortal in the mold of Kedric Golston (Redskins) or Dan Williams (U of Tennessee)? Other NFL teams (no, the Redskins don’t run a 3-4) have such players at 3-4 NT with mixed success. Until we suck, we might have to make do with such a roster….

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by Concomitandt on Nov 21, 2009 7:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like this thinking

It seems that there are quite a few 320+ NT type for this draft that can be had in the later rounds. Draft a stud DT/DE type and you could afford to have a poor mans Hampton in the middle. Actually they do and his name is Hoke and he’s like 11-0 as a starter.

by SNW on Nov 21, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My point was that it has worked in the past.

Hoke is too long in the tooth to count on as more than a mentor/backup to a young guy.

by SNW on Nov 21, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to go that route and take a strong DT/DE candidate then we could consider drafting Arthur Jones from Syracuse. He’s probably the best hybrid suitable to be an end in a 3-4 defense in the draft. We could also consider Corey Wootton from Northwestern or Jared Odrick from Penn State.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That might work but I don't know

There are supposed to be other NT type players, atleast more than usual this year. That was my dilemma this year. On one hand I wanted us to repeat,but on the other hand I wanted us to suck so we could get Cody.

by Steel in FL on Nov 21, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The reason I chose Price...

was because he will probably be available later than Jones. I like that idea because of the possibility of a trade up into the second round to get him. A first round trade up sounds like fun, but I really wonder if there’s anyone worthy of it. Cody would be worth it, but I still don’t think we will manage it. Some team is just going to want him with their own early pick.
Price could be around into the 40s or so. We should certainly be able to wheel and deal to make that happen, while drafting a nice defensive back with our unaltered first round pick.

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by Concomitandt on Nov 21, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would be very happy if we got Price in the 3rd round.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Price has said....

…he’ll return for his senior year regardless of how this season goes. So unless he has had a major change in plans don’t plan on him.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 21, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clarification...

“Until we suck”…enough to draft a guy like Cody.

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by Concomitandt on Nov 21, 2009 7:05 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There's a sophomore QB from Ohio St.

Named Terrelle Pryor. I’m watching the Michigan/Buckeyes game, and man….that kid looks TOUGH!!! Is there a precedent set for Sophomore players declaring for the draft?

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

He’s 6’ 6", 230, and ran a 4.33 40 his Freshman year…

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Al Davis's next victim

And I’ve watched Pryor, and I’m sorry, just like Vince Young, Michael Vick, and the other speedy QBs, I don’t see Pryor being very successful. He’ll have a short stint with the Raiders and then bounce around as a backup for a few years before busting out is my guess.

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by HighSchoolSteeler on Nov 21, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A player has to be 3 years removed from high school before he can be eligible for the FL draft. Pryor is a true sophomore which means he can’t enter the draft until after next season, which is the 2011 draft. Two players in the last decade have already tried to use the courts to get into the NFL early, and both were denied and were unable to return to college. USC receiver Mike Williams and Ohio State running Maurice Clarett. Both had to sit out a year, and ended up being complete busts in the NFL.

Pryor is a tough kid with great measurables but he not a solid QB. He will most likely have to make the transition to WR if he wants to succeeded in the pros.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Cribbs/Randle El style?

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

That’s always a possibility. But for every Cribbs/Randel El successful conversion to WR, there’s dozens of good college QB’s who just can’t make the transition. Someone like Pryor, who was the consensus top recruit going into his freshman year may be too prideful to make the switch to WR.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man I wish we could have another Randle El

That TD pass in SB XL (I think) was awesome, not to mention his return skills. I really think that if Pryor dropped to the Steelers, we could turn him into that kind of threat. Coach-God Mike won’t take any shit, and could potentially mold the kid into one of the best ever.

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by SteelFever on Nov 21, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice post

I’m board with a lot of what you said. Gerhart, Pawelek, Iupati, are all guys I’d like to see in Black and Gold. Spiller could be a real nice pick for us, as I think he’ll be a better every down back then a guy like Jahvid Best, and is probably just a tad faster with his straight line speed. Still he’d be an excellent compliment to Mendenhall, as you said, and could give us another home-run hitting, playmaker on offense.

The only way I think we address the free safety issue early on is if Earl Thomas is there in the first round, if he declares. I’m not sure at this point where Reshad Jones goes if he decides to enter the draft. Morgan Burnett and Nate Allen could be decent as well somewhere in the second.

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by HighSchoolSteeler on Nov 21, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Considering how good he’s been playing this year I think Earl Thomas will declare for the draft. I think this is going to be a very junior heavy draft because of the pending rookie wage scale and possible lockout in 2011. Unfortunately I think the Texans will snatch him up long before we get to pick. In my opinion he’s second only to Eric Berry, he’s a local product, and he would fill a great position of need for the Texans. I think Burnett will go in the first round as well. Nate Allen is a fringe first rounder at this point, although I think he’s very underrated. Playing at USF doesn’t give him enough exposure. Reshad Jones will probably declare as well. UGA is in a down turn and probably another year or two away from being a top program again. If he declares he would be a great pick up in the third round.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we were to trade up with San Francisco at 13 or 14

who do you think we would select, and what would we have to give up, besides our 1st round pick?

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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 21, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t see us doing that. What it would take is our 1st rounder, 3rd round, and probably 5th rounder. I would assume that they would be targeting Cody, but who knows who it could be if someone slipped a few spots. Personally, if we were going to move up that far for someone I had a realistic shot at getting it would be Rolando McClain. I think he’s going to be a special player in the NFL, like Patrick Willis. I know ILB isn’t our biggest need, but he’s an undeniable talent to don’t pass on.

by big_jay71 on Nov 21, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stuff, thanks

As you said, Farrier is 34. We don’t usually seem to draft our biggest need first, anyway. Although when we traded up for Troy in 2003, our defense looks like the biggest weakness of the 2002 team.

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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 21, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very deep draft

With the Steelers’ depth, I’d expect them to trade BACK, get more picks and stockpile talent. There’s no need to rush anyone in to any position, and I’d much rather give Big Snack a career contract with the Steelers

by mojo88 on Nov 22, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like how every time I read this mock draft when it is re-posted, the Steelers part gets larger.

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by Mr MaLoR on Nov 21, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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