Steelers Stumble On Road Against Chiefs, Fall To 6-4: Post Game Reactions
*Before most of us even had time to sit down and make it through the first beer of the afternoon, the special teams unit put the Pittsburgh Steelers in a quick seven point hole by allowing their fourth kickoff return of the year. Mike Tomlin showed earlier in the week that he was trying to do more than just pay lip service to the season long problem. However, the addition of Donovan Woods in place of Arnold Harrison proved not to be the answer, at least not right away. Jamaal Charles took the opening kickoff to the house for a quick 7-0 lead for the home Chiefs. What's next personnel wise, if anything? The Steelers did plenty else wrong to keep the Chiefs in the game before they capitalized in overtime and took down the defending champs, but once again, without that special teams blunder, the Steelers probably don't even find themselves in a close game late in the game. I wonder what Mike Tomlin plans to do to fix this unit that has consistently let inferior opponents hang around.
*Sticking with the special teams theme - Stephan Logan had another solid day returning the ball on kicks (28.8 yards) and punts (10.7) but I wonder if he did enough to save a roster spot. Changes are surely on the horizon and if Logan is cut, I have no doubt that he will be on another NFL roster before he clears waivers.
*Ben Roethlisberger threw for just under 400 yards and three touchdowns but his two interceptions really allowed the Chiefs to stay in the game. The first interception was a fluke bounce of Heath Miller's hands on the Steelers first drive of the 2nd half. Ben was really not at fault whatsoever for that one. The second interception though was classic Ben - pump faking and holding on to the ball for a few extra seconds while trying to extend the play. Sometimes his improvisation results in a positive play, but every once in a while he costs the Steelers big time by forcing things unnecessarily. That was the case today when Roethlisberger threw an interception inside the Chiefs red zone late in the 3rd quarter with the score at 17-14 in Pittsburgh's favor. What's so frustrating is Ben had looked outstanding up until that point in the game, and even more so on that drive in particular. Ben needs to be more conscious of his surroundings and realize that he can't take those chances in the red-zone.
*I was a big supporter of Willie Parker this off-season and even early on this season, but frankly I see no reason for him to be splitting carries with Rashard Mendenhall. Mendenhall catches better out of the backfield and Parker is becoming a liability in pass protection, especially in comparison to Mendenhall who looks like he could fill in for Max Starks if needed.
*Speaking of missed assignments in pass protection - Mewelde Moore got lit up by Derrick Johnson on the Steelers first play of their last drive of regulation. The score was tied at 24 and the Steelers had 1:47 left to work with. Rather than meeting Johnson a step or two away from Big Ben, Moore let Johnson run him over for the costly sack. Again, plenty of blame to go around in this one.
*Mendenhall's hustle on Ben's second interception was a big key to why the Steelers were even able to take the Chiefs into overtime. Some slow guy named Studebaker had chugged all the way down to the Steelers 8 yard line after intercepting the pass near the opposite goal line. Mendenhall eventually chased him down. Ever since Mike Tomlin benched Mendenhall earlier this season he has done everything you would expect of a first round draft pick. His running in the overtime period was incredibly inspired and it's actually quite sad it went to waste in a loss.
*Lamar Woodley had his first big game of the season and was an impact player all day long. He had two sacks on the day, giving him 5 on the season. Woodley's draft mate, Lawrence Timmons also made plays all game long. His strip sack of Matt Cassell late in the 3rd quarter gave Pittsburgh a short field to work with. They'd capitalize and regain the lead 24-17 shortly thereafter.
*With the game on the line today the Chiefs followed the blueprint the Bengals laid out last week by bringing a full on blitz on Big Ben. Despite not getting Ben to the ground until the 4th quarter, the offensive line eventually gave in and was unable to keep blitzers out of Roethlisberger's face with the game on the line. That's consecutive weeks now that Ben has looked lost in crunch time and failed to lead his team to victory with the game on the line in the fourth quarter. Am I the only one who doesn't feel confident in this particular team's chances with the game on the line?
*That's plenty from me for now. I'm sure Blitz will have some thoughts as well soon enough. - dyms -
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I think Mike Tomlin called Marvin Lewis after last week’s game and said, “Listen, that game was tough on both of us. We can keep fighting it out for the division after Thanksgiving, but what do you say we both just take this weekend off?” An agreement was made, and there was joy in Kansas City and Oakland.
Haha. I love it.
Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!
by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 23, 2009 2:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We are what we are.
There are a lot of strengths and weaknesses on this team. A ton of inconsistencies too. A few things I think might be going on:
The hurry-up has been solved. We are using it, it doesn’t work like it did last year. Last year we rode clutch big defensive plays, a decent chunk of luck and the hurry-up offense to the Super Bowl. We’ve gotten a few of the first, little of the second and the third is going away as the season progresses.
Ben is not the same guy he was last year. This Ben is not a genius on third down. This Ben’s gun slinging in the red zone is haunting him. We may say he is throwing into bad situations, but he completed those passes last year.
We can’t convert on third and short. We get stuffed more than we pick up the first. We have run up the middle plenty, and it fails. The offensive line is better, but it’s not great, it’s average, and above average in pass protection.
This isn’t last year’s team, we aren’t overcoming our flaws with luck and clutch plays. We are moving the ball better, but finishing less. Our defense is giving up points and our Special teams can’t cover. We came blame Reed, Logan, Arians, whoever you want, but the truth is this years team is not as good as last years and all those close and improbable wins last year are becoming losses this year.
We all had high hopes at the beginning of this year that the Steelers could be even better, but last year was special, and this year we are not the same team.
. . . yet. I have to say this because we saw in 2005 what is possible, and we still have time. We will make the playoffs, and from there it is all about who you face and who is better that week.
by Phantaskippy on Nov 23, 2009 2:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Consistency is a sign of a quality team
The Colts and the Patriots have been consistently good over recent years. Although the Steelers have won two SB, their play has not been that of a dominating team like we are used to following the Noll years.
I agree with your post. Unless the Steelers get some breaks, it doesn’t look good for a repeat.
by IronJake on Nov 24, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dont you mean fall to 6-4?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 23, 2009 3:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It feels like 4-6 i guess
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Steeler_ on Nov 23, 2009 3:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
what happened today malor
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Blitzburgh on Nov 23, 2009 4:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt get in the damn endzone
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Nov 23, 2009 4:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s dump the Special Teams Coach!!
by The Chemist 4260 on Nov 23, 2009 5:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who questions punting into the endzone from the fifty? Why can’t a professional punter (Sepulvida) kick the ball out of boundsinside the twenty?
by The Chemist 4260 on Nov 23, 2009 5:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do you...
Question the call itself, or Sepulveda’s inablity to get it downed inside the 20?
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 23, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So oakland won?
So the Steelers could have made up a game in the AFC North but they lost to the Chiefs? God damn it! This makes me sick. No I know how fans with mediocre teams feel.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Nov 23, 2009 7:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, ALl I can think is that we lost to a JV team.
But we are getting good at at that these days. All I wanted yesterday was a 48-0 blowout. I even bought a 30 of Iron City, and figured this would be an easy on the heart game.
by SteelersVT on Nov 23, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh I can't even spell right. At least it's a short week this week.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Nov 23, 2009 7:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pressure
I think this team needs the pressure. They’ve let games go for a variety of reasons, all games we should have won and the one thing we can say without doubt is that the other team played a less flawless game than the Steelers did. KC, CIN (twice), they won because they didn’t make huge mistakes.
I still like this team to make the playoffs, but they’ve got to play with a meanface the rest of the year.
by 13thieves on Nov 23, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unacceptable!
I’m angry, but still optimistic. But if we lose to the Ravens which is a big possibility, the season is lost.
This team, in my opinion, shows little attention to detail. Special teams is the best example of NO ATTENTION TO DETAIL!. Staying in your lane, form tackling, etc. are basic to good special teams play. Penalties at extremely bad times, “emotional” penalties are also good examples.
Coach Tomlin talks about “getting back intothe lab” . He and the others have to pull an all-nighter to pull this team out of a funk.
No excuses, just play solid football.
by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Nov 23, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
FWP
You are correct about FWP. Putting him in every third series just doesn’t make sense, especially when Mendenhall is playing so well. It seems to take the rhythm out of the running game.
Also, the NFL Network had a scroll that said Charlie Batch was out for 6 weeks with a wrist injury. Any confirmation?
by VinniePie on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
snowballz posted the same thing…welcome to the Dennis Dixon era in Pittsburgh
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by drinkyourmilkshake on Nov 23, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A silver lining, maybe
I was following the Ravens-Colts game while watching the Steelers lose in KC. Despite their record, the Colts don’t impress me that much. They really had a struggle with the Ravens, who also have plenty of problems. The best hope for the Steelers might be that the rest of league isn’t much better. The Bengals came crashing to earth as well in Oakland. I think any team still in the running that can develop some momentum during the next six weeks has an excellent shot at the SB. The Steelers aren’t out of this yet but they’ve got to win next Sunday night.
by Billy52 on Nov 23, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Kick coverage has literally cost us two games in a row...
If you simply take away the points scored on returns, we beat both cincy and KC. Now I know that it doesn’t necessarily mean that we would have gone on to win without those returns, but one can reasonably argue that the special teams shenanigans is costing us games. Is it time to put more starters in on kick coverage? I saw Ike Taylor out there yesterday. Why not put Timmons or Will Gay or maybe even Ryan clark out there? (I’ll stop short of suggesting Polamalu or Harrison. If we need them on kickoff coverage then we may as well forget it.)
by theatrain on Nov 23, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Steeler Football!
The problem with the Steelers are two glaring problems. 1- The special teams suck. 2- Arians is relying too much on the Big Ben’s arm and the passing game. Mendenhall has been running the ball well to the tune of over 5 yds/ carry and yet he is underutilized! He should be carrying the ball at least 25 – 30 times a game. In our last two losses, Ben has thrown over 40 times with the same result in each, a Loss! I understand Ben is the Franchise, but when everyone in the stadium including the opposing teams defense knows your going to throw the ball, it becomes that much harder. Both the Bengals and the Chiefs blitzed all game long because they know we have become a passing team. Arians has called very few if any screens or draws to slow the defense down. Our problem is, We need to get back to Steeler Football! Run first, Pass second! A little play action wouldn’t hurt either! STEELER FAN FOR LIFE!
by S.mason on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to agree about the new passing offense
Arians has installed as our mainstay. Gaudy statistics look cool but it also raises the probability of TOs in the form of INT or fumbles from sacks. The stats don’t mean a thing without the W at the end of the game
by qwikdoc on Nov 23, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not so much the ...
…..passing but rather his inability to manage the offense on game day and sustain the run game, this of course is exasperated by his deficiencies game planning and the collapse of the Coverage Teams after being reliably solid last season.
For example, against the Chiefs, he started the game seemingly determined to maintain a reasonable pass/run balance on a drive by drive basis. This was productive in the first half, tenuous( because of his other deficiencies) but disciplined. In the second half we had a unfortunate INT, a fluke and no reason not to persevere, this was followed by a three & out.
At this point with 7:32 to go in the 3rd, Arians blinked his one eye and inexplicably and unnecessarily ……..shit his pants, producing a typically disturbing Arians drive calling 9 pass/2 run plays ending with another interception and suddenly we’re in a dogfight, Arians sucked shit that through a straw and tried re-balancing but momentum had swung and with the defense low on mojo( this happens just like shit happens) and the special teams in therapy for OCD, all was lost, on the day but not yet on the season.
We have work to do.
….and no, Arians wasn’t the only one at fault yesterday but why is he almost always at fault?
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 23, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He should be carrying the ball at least 25 – 30 times a game.
We ran it 31 times yesterday. Granted, not all carries were by Mendy, but the only time we go truly pass -happy is when we let Ben take the O into no-huddle.
by Varmint on Nov 23, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
S. Mason, welcome to BTSC...
I see your points, but there are some flaws in your workhorse RB mentality. First, can you name me one running back that carried it 25-30 times a game at a 5+ yards per carry clip? I doubt it, maybe 30-40 years ago. OJ had a great year or two where he was close to 5 y.p.c., as did Jim Brown. But how many carries per game did they have? And there were less games in a season then. Extrapolate your desired numbers, and you have 400-480 carries in a season. That’s a lot. Now, please find me one running back who has had that many carries in a year, and was effective there after? My guess is there are not many, truthfully, I’d think none.
Is it possible that he averages that many yards per carry because he has a smaller number of carries? Or is it possible he has that yards per carry number because defenses are prepared for pass due to the run pass ratio and are unprepared for the run?
I’m not saying he does, and I’m not saying you’re wrong. Nor am I saying he doesn’t and I’m right. But do you see a possible correlation between the two? And do you see the effect that kind of workload could have on a player?
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 23, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you ....
…about Woodley and Timmons but on days like these some right some wrong everybody sees a goat somewhere.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 23, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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