What is going on with our locker room?
by misskreider on Nov 30, 2009 10:23 PM EST
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Both Hines and Tone have appeared to call out Ben for his toughness and not playing the game in interviews with the media? What are everyone's thoughts on whether the locker room thinks Ben was a wussy for not playing? I personally think it is a strange coincidence that both Ben and Kurt Warner both practiced all week and were expected to play, but had last minute "headache" problems that got them scratched. With all the recent press attention, does anyone think the league might have pressed the Steelers to not play Ben for his concussion. I just think something else must have happened to keep Ben off the field? There is no way Ben complains of exercise induced headaches. He is a drama queen about injuries sometimes, but I just can't see him admitting a problem when he knew that would get him pulled from playing.
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It did seem odd to me too. The league is now pressing on the head injury front
I don’t think they can pressure a team to not play a starter, but you have to wonder if there’s something to be said for creating a favorable impression with the public about the seriousness of the injuries by benching major names for concussions. What better way to unroll a new restriction? They are talking about placing neurologists on the sidelines who would have the final say on whether a player can return to the game or not now. I think its a god thing, but I would hate to be the guy that benches a major starter and consequently costs the team a crucial victory.
It is an interesting conundrum; the players obviously do not know whats best for them, they will play until they develop amnesia if given the choice. But the league has to take some steps to reduce long term effects of concussions, especially if they are forced into taking care of the ex-players whose mounting head trauma costs keep rising.
Patriots cheated
payed off goodell to get them pulled. Why? I have no idea but 60% of the time I’m right every time.
Bring a towel to the game. Black or gold or yellow. If you don't have one buy one, If you can't buy one, dye one!!!
by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 30, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's ridiculous to be saying this about Ben after everything he has done. Its called being safe.
I read something that said something along the lines of “Big Ben complained of headaches late in the week, which considering his reputation may have actually been ‘Oh my god I think I almost died just then’”
True that. Ben is a warrior and I think most of this is just frustration. It will cool down. Winning changes everything.
Any given Sunday. We've given the Bengals two Sunday's this year.
Ryan Clark aka The Hammer immediately following the game "I would give my left arm to play them again."
Ben’s teammates were upset because like Hines said afterward, it was Saturday Morning when guys found out. If someone looks normal and acts fine and then bails at the last minute there will be talk.
I don’t think guys are upset with Ben, they understand Concussions and injuries and aren’t going to hold it against them. But they knew how big this game was, and for him to drop out at the last minute really put the team on the spot. They would have definitely been happier with 3 or 4 days warning, but it is what it is. That’s Ben, and he was right to pull back. Next time he should try and be smarter about judging his health early in the week.
I think he watched the Hoge interview and got scared about playing with a concussion. I don’t blame him.
Also the one problem with Ben is he isn’t smart. Talented, tough as nails, a fierce competitor, loyal teammate, dumb as a brick. He’s the big dumb QB round 2. It seems to be the only kind that do well in this town.
I agree with most of your comments but......
Ben is not by any stretch of the imagination dumb. He is just lacks common sense like 97.25% males. No offense to anyone but it’s true.
lol
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Women just do a better job of hiding it
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
And if they are hot
It only really matters to other women and guys that have no chance.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
No that's because you have power
You have “the happy place” and men want to visit. Trying not to be crude.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
They also have sets of twins on their bodies that they use to get our attention.
by StoneColdSteel on Dec 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's not fair!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
True but
men have a happy place too and their own set of twins. You guys just don’t know what to do with your gifts
Try me
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Figures
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Good article on this subject
Good analysis by Thomas George at FanHouse on this topic:
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/11/30/steelers-at-odds-following-ot-loss/
Especially liked this part:
“These are, after all, the defending Super Bowl champions and a team that’s won two championships in the past five years. These players have earned a measure of respect from their coaches that should always be in play. They are too smart, too hungry, too invested to leave them in the dark. There can be no mind games with this character-driven bunch. I think Tomlin blew it.”
I like a lot of it;
but to say, or even strongly imply that we lost this game because of the Ben situation, please. Does anyone believe Hines Ward would let Ben distract him from a game against the Ravens? Come on, it’s the Ravens. No one on that team played bad because Ben didn’t tell them what was going on, in fact the offense played great. We need a big corner who can cover and we wouldn’t be talking like this. We need to dictate coverage, not the other team.
Of course typical Steeler team, a problem arises and has already been solved the year before in the draft. Just got to wait a bit on Lewis. It is interesting that K.Lewis Burnett R.Lewis Ratliff and Townsend were all brought in and none are good enough to tandem corner with Gay. It would have been nice.
i like all of it.......except
we were very over due to loose to the ravens,,,,,,,so it was best to do it now and find that
our bk-qb can play well,
our running game can run without being set up by the pass,
that rashard definitely put ray behind him and is a force of his own,
we can blame a loss on injuries,
and maintain ben’s mystique for late comebacks in big games,,,,
take all that mo-mentum from youthful cotribution
and turn it into a mo-tivated sprint to an 11-5 record that has rarely missed the playoffs.
ben wasn’t held for health, he was sandbagged cause it made sense. ………. except
poor hines is always pure hines(wish everyone were so) and he smelled cheese and was hurt that he was’t told someone orderd the pizza.
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