Pregame Zone Blitz: Steelers at Broncos
We've got a week of casual viewing of our present and future opponents, and a healthy record's perspective from which to see them. Health is the trendy topic this week, as Pittsburgh is out multiple defensive ends and potentially, a free safety. It should be noted (and of course, the PZB makes sure of that) Ryan Clark has the support of Steeler Nation with whatever he and the medical staff decide to do, but certainly, a win in Denver helps Pittsburgh's case to not be in this situation come playoff time.
Here's what our opponents are saying.
Opponent Web Sites/Forums
We feel your pain, Denver fans. We had these same feelings about Mitch Berger.
Dawkins: "(Dumervil and Harrison) are guys that are lower to the ground already." Hilarious description for the vertically-challenged stud pass rushers for Denver and Pittsburgh.
Nod to our brethren at the Mile High Club Report. This will no doubt gain some traction. PBZ has to ask, though, is there a logical reason for you to be in the city of Baltimore?
It's safe to say both Denver and Pittsburgh have concerns with their young stud running backs hanging onto the football.
A slight digression, but ESPN's Adam Schefter's 10 Spot column always has a bunch of fantastic information. This week,it's chock-full of Steelers stats.
Last Game
There is such a thing as winning a game but not beating your opponent. The biggest difference between the two is teams get a win for winning the game, not for beating their opponent.
Pittsburgh's defense flashed some 2008-like playmaking ability, and behind the steam of LaMarr Woodley and Keyaron Fox, who both scored second half touchdowns, Pittsburgh won a critical intra-conference game against a good Vikings team.
Luck? Nah. Champions tend to have the moxie needed to win games like that. If nothing else, it was one of the more entertaining games we'll see, considering the level of individual talent on that field.
I've been trying to best describe him, but Vikings rookie wide receiver Percy Harvin plays unlike any receiver we've seen in some time. He has the strength of a much larger possession receiver, but how many possession receivers are returning kicks at a high level of success? I've been watching Harvin with great interest since I saw his first kick return against Kansas City in the preseason. The first upfield cut he made was like magic; he runs so powerfully, yet gracefully.
Try to accurately draw a comparison to him, seriously. I'm not saying he's a Hall of Fame player, I'm saying we haven't seen a receiver quite like him. He has great speed, obviously, but it's his strength for his size that makes him so unique. My favorite example was during the Steelers game, and there have been a half dozen of these examples so far this year. Harvin catches a curl, squares his shoulders, and SS Troy Polamalu, with a 10 yard head of steam, plants his shoulder directly on Harvin's thigh, as perfectly as it looks in the text book. I can't think of even tight ends who wouldn't go down when hit like that. Harvin faltered a little, but didn't go down. He basically didn't move, he just stopped moving forward.
The best I can come up with is Steve Smith with the strength of Ben Coates. He's a special player.
Opponent Spotlight: QB Kyle Orton
Hey, did you hear the Broncos traded High-Talent-Mediocre-Leader Jay Cutler to the Bears for Kyle Orton? It's true. It's even more true that Denver (6-1) has had a bit more success than the Bears have (4-4) to this point in the season.
Pittsburgh's biggest problem is the fact Cutler played a helluva game and beat Pittsburgh earlier this year. Logic should dictate Orton will beat them even worse.
What's interesting between the two is how Cutler, the big arm, gunslinger passer, went short, short and short again to maintain possession and eat away at the clock and let Jeff Reed miss two field goals. Orton's game - and Denver's success - is predicated on the concept of short, controlled passing.
So in many ways, Pittsburgh should be prepared for much of what they saw against the Bears. But Orton has had a great deal of success in playing in this philosophy. With a passer rating over 95, and just one interception to nine touchdown passes, his efficiency keeps Denver competitive.
Pittsburgh loses a bit of athleticism when ILB Lawrence Timmons isn't on the field, and their hook-to-curl defense will be challenged by playmakers like WR Brandon Marshall. Orton loves to find Marshall inside the numbers, and despite Marshall's career-low 10.8 yards per catch, he's as dangerous as they come with the ball in his hands.
Containing Marshall isn't done by one player, and it's more sensible to find ways to get to Orton and disrupt his rhythm. If Orton is the same precision-based passer he's been so far this season, it could be a repeat of the Steelers trip to Chicago.
Steelers Spotlight: WR Hines Ward
"It's hard to sit there and tell everybody it's a violent sport but tone it down a little. When I go across the middle, those guys aren't going to tackle me softly and lay me down to the ground. That's not football. I find it ironic that now you see a receiver delivering blows, and it's an issue. But I haven't changed. I've been doing it this way for 11 years." - Hines Ward
It's tough not to give Ward a nod for the Spotlight this week, considering his achievement as being named the Dirtiest Player in the NFL this week. It's an intriguing match-up for Ward as well, considering a relative lack of success against Denver in his career.
Ward has squared off against Shanahan's Broncos three times in the regular season, and has yet to garner a win. Since he was named the Dirtiest Player in the NFL, and he obviously gives a rat's patootie about that, he's gotta be fired up and ready to play, right?
If nothing else, the fact Ward continues to roll back the hands of time, and is putting up the best half-season numbers in his career, speaks volumes to the role he plays with the passing attack version of the Steelers.
An even bigger fact to consider; Denver's nickel defense was shredded by Baltimore's Joe Flacco last week on 13-for-15 passing. It was so bad, Denver went out and signed the ageless Ty Law, and released CB Jack Williams.
It's fair to say Pittsburgh has a tad deeper group of receivers, and a bit more experienced of a passer. Law on Ward is a nice match-up for you nostalgia fans, but the scope of Pittsburgh's passing game against Denver's sub packages is going to be an advantage for Pittsburgh.
(honorable mention: LT Max Starks)
I See You
"It is only one game in the long journey of a season and Steeler Nation would completely understand if you stood along the sidelines." - Dr Del on BTSC
I see you, Ryan Clark. Perhaps I'm seeing you a bit later than I should have. It was scary to hear what happened to you the last time Pittsburgh went to Denver. Even more tragic, perhaps it took us that crisis to realize your value to the team, and to solidify your place among the best free agent acquisitions the team has ever made. In missing the remainder of the 2007 season, after the high altitude of the Mile High City, you prepared yourself well enough to have a fantastic 2008 season. Your ability to place the team ahead of yourself was demonstrated by the multiple bone-jarring hits you delivered (see: McGahee, Willis and Welker, Wes). It's because PZB loves you, Ryan, that a point must be made; while it's tougher to win without you, don't play this game if you feel there's a chance it can be repeated. We'll worry about you playing in a potential playoff game at the 6-1 Broncos when we get to it. PBZ said at the time you should have been Comeback Player of the Year in 2008, I'd rather you not attempt to win the award you should have had. The fact you made it back on the field is enough to show everyone you have the warrior mentality, both on the field and off it.
Key Stats
- Monday Night marks the second time in three years the Steelers have played at Denver following a bye
- Mike Tomlin's Steelers teams have scored 66 points in their two games following a bye (1-1)
- In three regular season games, Hines Ward has never scored a touchdown against Denver (0-3 regular season).
- The Steelers have faced three of the league's top five rushers (Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson and Cedric Benson) through eight weeks, and haven't allowed a 100-yard rusher.
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Thank God it's Monday!!!
Here We Go Steelers!!!!
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
by 1BlkGldFan on Nov 9, 2009 7:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
great write up as always
but one mistake.
Ward did catch a TD pass from Ben against Denver in the 05 playoffs.
Ben has magic. Only a hand full of QBs can dominate like him. We see that every year. Why don't the dumb asses out there see it...
by BlitzKurtain on Nov 9, 2009 8:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
2nd quarter
Hines Ward 17 Yd Pass From Ben Roethlisberger (Jeff Reed Kick)
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playoff stat was removed
I think I got ahead of myself…Ward scored his only touchdown against Denver in the playoffs. He does not have a regular season touchdown against Denver.
‘Course, there was that one he fumbled at Denver’s 1.5 inch line in 2006…I forget if that was at Heinz or Invesco, though. I am trying to erase that season from my memory.
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Wait
is finally over. It was such a long 2 weeks and 1 day. Now we have straight weeks of steeler football until the playoffs when we get that bye!
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Nov 9, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope we win
But I won’t be disappointed if the Steelers lose. The pessimist in me had circled this game as a L after week 3. I usually do this so that I am mentally prepared for a loss…..that’s just me.
Many games to go and the Steelers still have a good chance at the playoff spot irrespective of tonight’s result.
by Han on Nov 9, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice write up
Its going to be tough getting through work today for this game
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very enjoyable read, thank you.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Nov 9, 2009 9:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, good post...and Rec'd
Yes, gentlemen (and ladies)…we are here. I tell you what, I feel preety darn good about tonight. The fear and doubt, though little there was…is gone. After watching all the games yesterday…quick clicker and Sunday Ticket…I think we have seen that anything can happen on any given Monday.
I’m getting ready to head to Denver for some tailgating. It will be electric tonight in Invesco, Steeler fans…be ready for an old fashioned smashmouth DENVER BRONCOS beatdown!! My prediction stands:
BRONCOS: 31
STEELERS: 17
Vinny Gambino: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Halfway right. Steelers 31, Broncos 17
by StoneColdSteel on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chil...d...
…NO I won’t say it. Just sayin’, you better not look ahead to Cincy.
SCS: I have it right, my friend. I’m prone to typos, but this is not one of them.
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I have that hunch too,
that the Broncos are going to win this game. Hopefully Stokely can pull another rabbit out of his hat!! WHOOOOOODEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
by WHYUS!! on Nov 9, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tell me where you guys find your drugs, they are very potent
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why, so you can take them to ease the pain!!!!
by WHYUS!! on Nov 9, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your name says it all
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 10, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that didn’t happen at all, lol nice prediction.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Nov 10, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
31 points?
Really? I agree, anything can happen, but that kind of offensive output seems to be a bit of a stretch.
Crowd’s gonna be a factor though, I think you need to worry about your only real pass rushing threat being the same size as the guy Max Starks goes up against every day in practice. He’s used to those little guys getting underneath him.
“Your Honor, I’m requesting permission to treat Ms. Vito as a hostile witness.”
“You think I’m hostile now, just wait ’til you see me tonight!”
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
duly noted...
…and thank you. You are a good sport.
Vinny Gambino: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Starks...
…been studying him. DOOM may have to move around some. Perhaps either come off your RT, or stunt and spin on Starks. Trust me, he’ll get in there…but only 1 sack tonight, Ben is just too strong and mobile.
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We generally don’t get real vicious on here…doesn’t seem real smart to do so, considering our opponent is 6-1 and playing in front of a fiercely loyal crowd that probably began drinking at the time I started writing this comment (9:21 a.m. CT).
Plus, we don’t usually win there.
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Walker Black and Pepsi...
…but not until we get to Vail Pass. Then it’s on. So, official lubrication begins in 3 1/2 hours…and counting.
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's terrible.
The only thing you add to scotch is scotch. Course it is Johnny Walker.
by Damnscot on Nov 9, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the contrary...
a 20% splash of Pepsi creates the perfect color.
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
If you’re looking for mixing whisky, look elsewhere.
by Chicago Steeler on Nov 9, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have one for me!
I have employees to beat up and abuse to take from the client until then…probably a solid nine hours until that first beer gets cracked.
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No abuse...treat them with respect.
You’ll get a lot more out of them…especially loyalty. Just my opinion (and experience)
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta sound tough...
…or they will find out I rarely ever don’t let them do what they want.
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that works too...
…let them THINK they are getting over on you. But you know better!!
Vinny Gambini: "Ms. Vito, Can you tell the court what this is a picture of?"
Ms. Vito: "Ya know what it's of"
by Bronco_Fan_Tom on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
I loved waking up to this post. Can’t believe I still have to wait ten hours!
by Morganne on Nov 9, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
getting super pumped for this game
Everyone look for the farrior jersey in sec. 523 :)
by acrollet on Nov 9, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
HELL YEAH!!
Love hearin about fans traveling to road games!
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, should be fun
hoping I don’t get too much beer “spilled” on me….
by acrollet on Nov 9, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RB Larry Johnson to the Steelers?
With the Chiefs releasing RB Larry Johnson this morning, would anyone be interested in the Steelers picking him up for the stretch run? I’m sure he’d sign for the minimum and has ties to Pa.
I’d be willing to kick the tires for the rest of this year. He can take Carey Davis’ spot for me any day.
by datruth4life on Nov 9, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not, but who am I...
I saw this coming, called it, before the newest problems. I thought they’d release him this offseason though. In my opinion, he got content in KC once he got the contract he wanted a season or two ago (when he claimed to have taken the diapers off, and held out of camp). To me, he appears to have lost a step, or his feet have slowed down on him, similar to Willie this year, his legs just stop on contact. Plus, the fans can’t stand him there.
I do however, think there is a chance he turns it around in his favor again, ala Cedric Benson, but he can do it elsewhere. Cleveland calling? I think they may be.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 9, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we put LJ and T.J. Duckett in the backfield at the same time?
by pghnorthside on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No that would be illegal
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 9, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grab the Edge while you are at it
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Nov 9, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why not
we already have one Colt castoff…hey lets bring in booger too!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone could add Edge LJ and Marvin just for the experience factor
Seems strange they fell off so fast from the top of the heap a few years ago
by WarWolf on Nov 9, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't know L. Johnson will be 30 this month
Don’t know how much he has left, but I’d be willing to kick the tires. FWP is a shell of himself and is really done. No need to worry though. We got all-evertything-RB on the practice squad Isaac “Redzone” Redman.
by datruth4life on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
All I think about...
When I hear “Larry Johnson,” is, wow…we traded him and a bunch of never-will-bes for Troy Polamalu.
Point of note, the Chiefs also traded Jared Allen to the Vikings…they had the opportunity to have both of those guys. Any surprise why they’ll win three games this year, and probably three more next year?
by ncoolong on Nov 9, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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