Driveby Report: "You lost to who?" edition
Let the discussions begin.
1. Get out the golf clubs: Seriously...did you want this team to get into the playoffs? I have better things to do with my time than watch a game like I saw last night.
2. Timmons: Blame him all you want. I say you haven't been paying attention.
3. Madison: He is an upgrade. But the special teams still don't get the job done. On the Cribbs return he was on
4. The team: The team needs to take the blame. Quit trying to single out players and coaches. They all take turns messing up. This losing streak belongs to the team. The offense sucked eggs but the defense didn't make stops they should have. The special teams had problems as well.
5. Ben: I understand you make plays by holding the ball, but in those conditions and the way they were playing disciplined pass rush, you have to get rid of the ball. There was one time however, that Ben leaves the pocket and gets sacked. If he stays there for a second longer he can hit Holmes for a TD. I know easy for me to say...I admit it.
6. Rush-Hard: Pretty good job, but I wish he would quit stopping and lower his head and try to break some tackles when he's going wide. When he gets to the point he wants to head up field he stops half the time. I give it to him, he has done it less lately.
7. Woodley: He definitely elevated his game. Cleveland had some plays that they ran specifically to exploit him. They didn't work.
8. Red face: The Referee for this game made me cold just looking at him. He looked as miserable as I felt watching this game.
9. Hampton: If that dude gets in shape (cardio) he would be unstoppable. As it is, he's stoppable by fatigue. He handled Mack for a play or two then just got in the way a few (which he is supposed to do). I'm just saying....
10. Good news: The Browns didn't score in the 4th. HA!
11. Hines: Made some plays, but I can't help to wonder if someone else could have made those plays and got more yardage. He was limping some.
12. Logan: I'm not hatin on him, but I think he's not going to be here next year.
13. Hungry?: Hide the Snickers! Did you get it?
14. Question: Look at the game again. Can you tell me how many times there were 2 receivers in the same place? You'll be surprised.
15. Check down: I was surprised that Ben checked down more often. Sometimes it worked other times the throw was a little off or just dropped. Please do more of that Ben. It will pay off in the end.
16. Sixteen: This is where I predict we will draft. I'm not joking.
17. seventeen: If I'm wrong this is where we will draft. Ok I'm joking about that. Seventeen Loooooooong weeks this year.
18. Schedule: Hardest schedule in the league=Super Bowl. Easiest schedule in the league=crap bowl
19. This one is yours:
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1. Let me know if you are in the area in the spring. I will hit 9 or 18 with you. Forewarned though, I am awful at golf but love to play. You will not go home unamused.
3. How pathetic was every tackle attempt on Cribbs last night? I assure you I could have tackled him better than some of those black and gold last night.
4. Agreed. Team game, team blame.
5. This was the worst game Ben played all year. IMO, he was never in question as being a reason we lost a game, until last night.
7. How about that “Woodley Show Series”. 1st and 10, Woodley Personal foul face mask. 1st and 10 Woodley sack for 9ish. 2nd down Woodley stuffs the run. 3rd down Woodley gets a pass deflection and near interception. Well done Woodley. Easily the best defensive series we had.
10. I know the comment was tongue and cheek, but they basically were “scoring” in the 4th. That one drive was what? 6 full minutes or so….
11. Sweed….
12. Yep.
13. No.
15. Check downs can be very nice! That is…if your players catch them.
19. Give it up to Rob Ryan and his schemes last night. He seemed to be nose deep in our playbook and made the right call on almost every play (especially in the 1st half). Kudos to you sir. Keep in mind they basically had some players in there who were “picked up off the street.”
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
19. Have to give him props - Arians didn't put up much of a challenge either
No changes in the second half! I was like…what!? No adjustments?!
1. Most def. I am hit or miss. I can score in the 80’s and I can score in the 100’s. I can be in the fairway or I can spray ’em like a driveby.
11. You’re right. I wanted to see him. Everyone else was dropping passes, but maybe Sweed would get open.
13. It was kinda corny…the team wasn’t hungry…..don’t let them have Snickers….I know…boooooo
20. I should have given Holmes some props. He played very well. The real bright spot onf the offense last night.
Thanks bro!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
20. Yeah I don’t think I have seen much mention around today that he broke 1000, the first time in his career. At the beginning of the year I was hesitant at the idea of bringing him back next year. At this point, if they don’t resign you might see a grown man cry.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
He is a must!
He is developing into Ben’s “go to”.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Of course everything is tempered by failure
And that dropped dumpoff, but was anyone else pretty ecstatic to see Mendenhall as our 3rd down back, especially on a night when Mewelde Moore seemed unable to field a simple kickoff.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
Sorry, I wasn't ecstatic about anything
I really didn’t see any real identity in what they were doing besides losing huge chunks on pass plays.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I didn't say I was ecstatic about any identity
Merely in Mendenhall being handed further responsibility as he continues to develop into our feature back.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
I know
I just added that in. :)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Holmes returning punts
Made me smile. At least it appeared they were trying to be different. Or the same as they used to be. You know. Whatever.
by smashtheguitar on Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
4. Amen.
5. Yeah, that is Ben this year, takes sacks when nobody gets open, gets happy feet when someone does, the guy can’t win this year.
7. The Woodley series was my favorite part of the game.
8. I had to walk 8 blocks to watch the game, I could not have played in that game. No way.
9. Easy solution, the PNC park Perogi races.
11. At some point he’ll be gone, that is a sad truth.
14. Watch. . . again. . . How dare you sir, how dare you.
15. Rashard could lead this team in receptions, so could Heath.
18. I think we both brought that up in preseason.
19. Where was Keenan Lewis? I watched that whole game waiting for him, and he was inactive. Roster changes pheh, Holmes punt return, Rashard on third down and 4 series of Bernett at CB (looked good, better than I would expect a rookie to do) is it? The redemption wasn’t, Hell unleashed looked like a burning poo bag and now roster changes many teams would do without any announcement at all? I know I champion the calm and steady approach, but I would like a little overreaction for my fandom entertainment.
14.good stuff
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
8. Dude….dude….that’s all I can say
9. As long as he doesn’t kill the perogies and try to eat them thinking they are real
11. :(
14. I’m sorry sir…bad suggestion
15. Ya know? Maybe if they did throw to them the WRs woudl get open.
18. yes we did
19. I like Burnett alot….and you just made me lol because I remember burning poopoo bags on porches, ringing the doorbell, hidnign and watching people stomp them out. Thanks bro for the response.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
19.I have a few friends that had watched him play at UCF and developed man crushes on him.
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Hell unleashed looked like a burning poo bag
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The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
That statement has much irony
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
1. I’ll drive the cart
5. perhaps they could put an electric collar around his neck that zaps him if he holds the ball for over 10 seconds.
6.his posture is much better than earlier in the season. The hesitation at the line is weird-looking, you can see when he can’t figure out how the play is developing
7.His superman series was the bright point for the night
10.sure didn’t
11.if he wasn’t in we would’ve been asking what would’ve happened if he was, but yea the gimping was noticable
12.keep him and implement him into the offense more. I think if he does more than returns, it would make him better at ST.
18.Atleast playing harder opponents would make losing easier to digest
19.In team spirit, I shoot this bullet in my foot, cause that’s what steelers have managed to do yet again
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions
Hahaha I like that last one.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
Hey I rel=plied to this but it isn't here....
ahe there it is….dang it! copy and paste
5. hilarious! 6. I think it will get fixed. When it does look out.
12. possible but I don’t think it will happen unless he lights the league up for the last 3 weeks.
18. just about this much easier → -
19. That was genius sir.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Explain?
2:40 left, Steelers driving, Browns defense on the heels for the first time all night and gasping for air. Steelers in no huddle with fresh first down….TIME OUT
Coaches add in their 2 cents and presto….3rd and 19. Talk about killing our momentum! Why call time out and let the Browns regroup? Yoi and double yoi.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
Ben wanted a hot chocolate?
I have no idea.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
If you are looking for logical answer to play calling this year
You are going to be lost more than Jack in that hedge maze at the end of The Shining.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
and you might freeze to death.....
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
50
I think even my dog barked at the TV when they did that.
It is a prime example of the immense bag of poor decisions they have made this year. I pray to all of the deities of the football world to please Illuminate Mr. Rooney and MT to fire Bruce Arians.
It all starts in the trenches.
by The_Nation_in_Mexico on Dec 11, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
5. hilarious!
6. I think it will get fixed. When it does look out.
12. possible but I don’t think it will happen unless he lights the league up for the last 3 weeks.
18. just about this much easier → -
19. That was genius sir.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
disregard I missed the reply button I guess
I was replying to kick him in da head
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
By the way
I think we are sitting at 15th overall draft pick.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
at the moment
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
This year
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us trade-up for a higher pick if we are really interested in someone…jus’ sayin’
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
You got that right
Because it won’t take much to move into the delicious numbers from where we will be.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Could be a solid opportunity to get a big jumpstart on rebuilding our aging defense.
just sayin’ (figured I’d try it out since everyone is using it) ;)
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
we all agree
just sayin….
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
so we all are jus sayin
Also, sctx109 try using “Come on, man!” It’s the coolest. I am trying to make it happen.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Come on man!
jus sayin…
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, c'mon man...
I say we trade back, jus sayin’
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 11, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
dmonghskubkongalong suh
we should trade up for him
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 11, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
First overall is a pricey trade
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 11, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
true
but probably worth it
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 11, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Top picks are rarely worth it
Suh has never played a down in the NFL, and yet he will receive a contract that will make him the highest-paid defensive lineman in the league. He looks great against college kids, but what are the chances of him being a bust in the NFL? Or being average? Or even being Casey Hampton? I like Big Snack, but I wouldn’t make him the highest-paid guy in the league.
10-15 is a great place to be in the draft. Lots of really good players available, but the contracts are much more reasonable.
you know who Suh reminds me of Joe Greene
The guy gets so much penetration and just demolishes Offensive lines much like mean Joe did back in the day
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 11, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Taylor Mays
Safety from USC? I would love to see him as a Steeler
Pound the rock
by syracusepittfan on Dec 11, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
All I can say is don't draft any DB from WVU they suck horribly
It like watching 5 William Gay’s out there tying to cover people and its painful to watch
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 11, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I’m thinking. USC’s Polamalu & Mays as the safeties.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
I don't like Mays as FS
If we do pick him, let him train under Troy as Troy’s successor. We need a ballhawk as a FS, and Mays is a straight up Polamalu type player. I like him as backup SS. However, we probably won’t draft in the first round for a backup anyways so I highly doubt we pick him up.
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
can we draft an offensive coordinator?
what the hell was up with all of the empty sets against a blitzing defense playing press man coverage with no WR’s who could separate? and what’s up with the continued love for 2 and 3 TE sets when we only have one TE who can play? and when did 15 degrees and windy mean spread ‘em out and chuck it around? i’m just sayin’…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Dec 11, 2009 10:23 AM EST reply actions
Join the club my good man
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Can Carey Davis catch?
I’m watching this Leonard Weaver guy in Philly bust open the charts for Andy Ried (he also doesn’t know what a fullback is) and can’t help but wonder if we should be looking to pass to Carey and/or David Johnson some more.
Seems the O is too in love with the vertical game this year. Doesn’t eat the clock either.
Carey can play he's not a fullback...he's a fat back
but seriously….I think Davis and Johnsons usually catch well…Johnson got one chance and dropped it. Ben doesn’t seem to like short passes so it wouldn’t matter.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
So is drafting in the high teens/low 20s the silver lining?
‘Cause I’m looking hard for a silver lining this morning…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Dec 11, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions
No
but drafting in the top 10 is!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
So if you're moving up what are you addressing?
CB first priority? Or DL if we lose Big Snack? Or an ILB to replace Farrior (I love ya, James, but next year might be the end of the road)…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Dec 11, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
The best available at one of those spots
unless someone ridiculous in another position presents himself.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
did we sustain any new injuries last night?
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
My feelings were hurt
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Was that Tomlin’s Puff Jacket last night? Didn’t quite look like the one I remembered.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
amen
I drank before the game cause I was excited
I drank during the game cause I was confused
I drank after the game cause, well, I was already drinking. why not?
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
lmfao
im still drinkin……..
Ron Paul was Right.
by Steelchamps !! on Dec 11, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
like it so much
gonna roll my sig with it
I drank before the game cause I was excited
I drank during the game cause I was confused
I drank after the game cause, well, I was already drinking. why not?
by Steelchamps !! on Dec 11, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hilarious.
Stop it, you’re killing me.
I just spit beer through my nose.
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
I think a few people injured their pride out there...
In all seriousness though I know Kiesel and Mendenhall both got banged up. Neither looked serious.
The Hell that Tomlin & the Steelers have unleashed on me this December is indescribable.
by John Stephens on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
And my hand
The Mrs. wasn’t happy about the chip she found this morning in the kitchen table….it’s roughly the size and shape of my wedding band. Which she also noticed is a little….less shiny today.
I think I’m going to have to hurt the wallet as well and make up for some of my bad behavior in another gift……
we're putting yer table on IR
and sending yer wallet to PS
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
The PS could be a problem.
I think she’s looking for the All-Pro solution…..think I can send Arians the bill?
He's probably hoarding his $$$ in fear..
send him a mapquest of his nearest unemployment office instead
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Rec of course.
I’m good with Timmons, he’s been playing a lot better IMO. Woodley has become the player he was last year as of late. Slow start, but if the other team is scheming for him, that might be a piece of it.
15) Specifically. I guess I just don’t understand the game as well as I thought I did. Heath has pretty much disappeared the last few games. I know he dropped some lately….I’m thinking it’s because he’s surprised to see it coming his way.
How about Mendy? He’s had what, 4 or 5 recptions this year that have gone for 10+ yards – so why doesn’t he get it at least a second or third time in a game? One and done????
How about play action? In cold, windy weather, down by less than 2 TD’s, is there any explanation for an empty back-field?
15. Amen
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
i agree about Mendy. I firmly believe that next season he’ll be a 20-25 touch per game kind of player.
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 11, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
IF......
and only IF BA is gone.
I have been a bit of an apologist for BA this year…taking a wait and see approach…recognizing that some of the problems on offense were d/t poor execution and not soley play calling. Now….make room on the train….I am firmly aboard the “FIRE BA EXPRESS.”
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
This team lost the identity
In 2005 the team against all odds won 8 straight games to win the SB when nobody count it.
Last year the toughest calendar and won the SB
This team has showed can play against adversity
For me the key lost was vs the Bengals because meant a lot of for this team and what happened? can’t win since then
Is frustrated to watch the way the Steelers are playing and for my personal point of view don’t think can’t win a game this season
For me the issues came from the head to the lower level
Steeler forever
What do you think about this?
In the NFL, if you ar every successful your next season opponents uses the offseason to figure you out. That means you will have to adjust at sometime during the year because this is a copycat league. When one team figures you out the rest will copy that until you can overcome it.
Do you think the adjustments haven’t been good enough, the talent can’t handle the adjustments or a combo of the two?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
arians
never been a fan of arians,, adjustments not good enough empty backfield when ben is prone to be sacked cmon man,, after the first 2 nothing changed,,, not rocket science here
by blackngold4ever on Dec 11, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but dang it’s really hard.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
As said before
The Steelers (for the majority) seem to lack drive and are playing as though entitled to do well, and have not committed to changing their style of play in advance of the adjustments other teams would make to them. Last time I remember us looking like this was 2003 when teams figured out the season before to just throw at will on us in the dink-and-dunk Raiders style of the times. We were powerless and unable/unwilling to change until the offseason. We drafted Ben, Starks, and the indefatigable Ricardo Coclough and went on our run. We will probably tweak the schemes, as well as Arians’ employment status, in the offseason, get another player or two to build around and start again.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
I don't think they've made any adjustments.
There was a long time when we did what we did and the hell with the other team. Those were the famous grind it out days when we did the smashmouth running game. “Here we are, we’re going to do this, and stop us if you can.”
We fucked it all up by getting so fancy.
I am interested in seeing who, if anyone gets canned
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
We're fast approaching the point where heads must roll.
For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 11, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Let the chips fall where they may.
"We just have to play better as a whole team." James Harrison
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Dec 11, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
I also think we're losing by the same slim margins we won by last year
We pulled so many games out right at the end last year… and this year we’ve lost those games. Some of it is adjustments, some is injury, some is age. Talent has a lot to do with it. On pure talent alone, was there anyone on the field better than Josh Cribbs tonight? And wouldn’t you like to have some #1’s like Alex Mack and Joe Thomas on our o-line right now? We don’t have a hell of a lot more talent than most teams so we have to get by on coaching, execution and good fortune. Little of that has been on our side this year.
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Dec 11, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Adjustments?
BA’s game plan last year was to design plays that barely worked, if at all, and then let BB do his thing with the trademark sandlot improvisation. This was, IMO, so weird to opposing DCs that it actually worked for a while, because they would gameplan for the actual designed plays and get caught out by the improvisation.
This year, BA “adjusted” by designing plays that were even worse, so that they would break down faster, and therefore capitalize on more improvisational shake-n-bake. Surprisingly, this appears to have not been effective.
seeing the field
through out this season and the past holding a ball and not getting rid of it is a major problem with ben, and arians not helping coming up with better plays to exploit a defense i seen a few times holmes or ward could have went under the d backs and have a 10 or so gain instead of turning to the outside,, frustrating
by blackngold4ever on Dec 11, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions
4. You're absolutely right
Rec’d, BTW. I look at this season, and it’s a different aspect of the team losing it for us each week. One week it’s STs, then it’s the D giving up late leads, or the O with 3 and outs late the game. Right now, this whole team sucks pretty bad. The only possible consolation is the numbers that Ben, Hines, and Tone have put up this season. Small consolation . . . . Well, there is the probable top ten draft pick.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 11, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions
You know
If they don’t start playing some rookies and Sweed I might not watch. That’s all I really want to see now.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
And if Troy sees the field again this year I'll be pissed
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
positives to troy on field
injury not as bad as it could be
he will help the rooks with both gameplay and confidense
he may rip someone’s head off
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
PCLs take a long time to properly heal though
This is actually what they say about them "You can play with a sprainied (that is the actual word used, not strained) PCL as long as you can deal with the pain. It is supposed to heal for months. Now it’s been years since I dealt with these types of injuries so there may be new info….anybody? is there a doctor in the house?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 11, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Not a doctor
But I can say from living in the Houston area that, when Andre Johnson had one last year, he was week-to-week for about five weeks in a row and ended up missing nine weeks with a mild sprain. Given the instability in the knee already, Polamalu needs to be careful, especially given the fact that the PCL controls initial acceleration and then stopping. Though Troy has never been that good at stopping. In short, it is a very tough injury to predict when it will finally be healthy.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
Yeah when needs to stop he normally just dives or jumps at something that moves
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 11, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
What a mistake that would be.
I can’t find an upside in letting him play. IR him and let him heal so he can be fresh next year.
Well, I would like to see Hines with 1000+ yards and Ben break the single season passing yards record
But, I would rather see those in winning season. Pretty much agreed on Troy and Sweed, though.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 11, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
19. BA is on the way out
its about 13 degrees outside and with the wind chill its -12 with a stiff wind of 25 MPH and gusts of 40 so we decide we are going to throw the ball at all times we’ll run it occasionally but when the ball is more like a rock and you have to have a holder on KO we’re going to throw the ball the whole game. Now I’m no OC but whouldn’t common sense tell you to run the ball in that situation or on a 3rd & 1 why not use a fullback.. wait “There is not fullback in MY Offense” well you need to find one for games like this so we can pound the ball against the Cleveland Browns or any team for the rest of this season cause it’s not going to be warm till we head down to Miami. What I’m tryinbg to say is "When you run the ball good things happen.
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
For all Tomlin's apparent desire for flexibility
Both the scheme and playcalling have been seemingly immune to adjustments so far this year. Not to mention, Arians has to be one of the most inflexible coordinators I can remember. It must be something about Cleveland. Like if you fail there, you might as well have failed everywhere. I submit Belicheck and now Arians as evidence. Getting fired in Cleveland creates a bunker mentality that locks people into what ever they have done previously and prevent any further progression. It would be amazing though to see Tomlin with coordinators that match his desire to be context responsive, if in fact that is his true personality.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
by sctx109 on Dec 11, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well said....
Getting fired in Cleveland creates a bunker mentality that locks people into what ever they have done previously and prevent any further progression.
by Dabombdiggity on Dec 12, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
The only flaw in this post is that it makes absolutely 100 percent perfect sense. So, of course, the current group of nimrods running the offense would never think of it.
by pghnorthside on Dec 11, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
investment
as a Steeler fan watching the browns run the ball and not us was very hard,, i mean very hard. we have gotten away from what we have always done,, known for controlling the game,, pounding the opponent play after play,, the first series with 3rd n 1 and ben is in shotgun,,, cmon that to me depicted the whole game,, how many times in the past facing that same scenario was that a given first down,, no sweat!!!! we come out and throw on first down we are going to throw on second,, watched it all year dont ya think the opposing team knows that also,,,,
by blackngold4ever on Dec 11, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions
basics
get back to the team of old,, it always worked before,,
by blackngold4ever on Dec 11, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions
Concussion effects?
Anybody else wonder if Ben was all there last night? He moved around in the pocket much less than normal. A Browns fan told me today he’s never seen Ben go down so easily.
There was a wierd play where Ben, under pressure in the pocket, standing still, moved the ball from his right hand to his left, and continued standing there. Finally he was brought down. What was he going to do when he shifted the ball but didn’t run or scramble? He looked like a statue.
He didn’t look for shorter routes when the pressure kept coming (since he never throws it away) and didn’t seem to audible much. The blitzes looked pretty blatant most of the time.
If Ben wasn’t 100% upstairs, but not concussed, this is the kind of game I’d expect him to play. Not sharp mentally and some (but not all) of his throws off the mark.
Yeah
He also threw the ball where NOBODY was. We watched him do that multiple times and we wondered what he was doing. If he cannot give 100% he should not be in the game. Dennis Dixon should have been in, because Ben was really really bad.
I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward
What about LeBeau's failing to adjust?
Quite a few comments around that Arians didn’t make any adjustments to the Browns pressure. Gotta agree: empty backfield against relentless pressure with a QB tthat doesn’t throw it away and displayed an unusual lack of elusiveness. Ugh.
I’m a HUGE LeBeau fan, but what was he doing last night? Every time that the Browns put Cribbs in the wildcat, the Steelers reacted like they’d never seen it before. Cribbs never threw it, and most of the time he simply ran wide left, getting around the corner more often than not.
After the pattern was established (and it was done early) and the Browns went wildcat, why didn’t Timmons line up wider, denying Cribbs the corner and tackling him or pushing him back inside? Time after time, Cribbs got around the edge, the linebackers chasing him along a flat angle and not getting there. The guy was 80% of their offense last night.
The other 20% being a guy just off the practice squad who was running in Canada before that. Good lord.
Thats an execution problem, in my opinion...
Cribbs isn’t given enough credit for his ability to read the field, that’s his real strength. Defenders were around him, they just didn’t get him. That’s execution.
On the flip side, they executed those plays really well. He had blockers in front of him and he was running hard. I’m sure there was something LeBeau could have done, but for the most part, the guys just have to make the plays on the ball carrier.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 11, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
19. Something smells bad.
When Hines complained publicly about Ben’s injury status, the red flags and sirens went off in my head. There’s something unresolved in the Steelers locker room, and it involves the QB. The hell with the weather last night – our offense has been teh suck since the Denver game.
Yeah, the defense has been up and down, but the offense has been uniformly bad against some of the worst defenses in the NFL. The O has played without pride or passion, and at times some of these guys look like they’re going through the motions. This doesn’t look like the Steelers of the past, even in bad years they brought everything they had.
My heros have always been Steelers...
agreed..
Ben needs a little competition at QB…he’s done good things over the agregate, however, I sense a ‘disturbance in the force’ between the OC, QB, and remaining offense. Sounds like a little resentment. Tough for us to say when we’re not there living and breathing it with them every day. Wonder if there is an ‘equity’ issue amongst the ranks?
by Dabombdiggity on Dec 12, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
19B. Last time I checked when you go 2-13 or 2-14 on Third Down you aren't winning anything
To channel my Inner Jim Mora Sr. It doesn’t matter who you play when you go 2-13 or 14 on Third down you aren’t beating anyone
"From time to time gunfighters get shot."-Mike Tomlin the third greatest Steelers coach
can anyone plz put a postive spin on this for me? it's driving me crazy
tomlin’s post game quote about our team
I like the fight in the group and I trust they will continue to do that.
has he been watching the same games i have for the past few weeks? (excluding the ravens game). that comment is driving me insane
These are dark days for Mike Tomlin and the entire team.
I don’t care what he says as long as he finds a way to pull them back together.
I not worried about it...
…nobody looks good losing five straight. They just need to remember how to throw and take a punch.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Dec 11, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
re-sign Holmes, please
he seems to be the only player on the offense that hasn’t mailed it in for the year, from my point of view. i’ll excuse Hines because of his hamstring, but he should have sat.

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