Could this be true? BA gone for real?
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 14, 2009 3:41 PM EST
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PrintI'm not sure how reliable the source is but the silver lining to this season would be a our OC and line coach and special teams getting canned. The guy quotes Adam Schefter of Espn who from my understanding is a reliable source. If this is true then it may have been worth a whole season lost.
For those of you who blame tomlin for waiting so long, I don't. After year one ben set TD franchise records. Year 2 they won the super bowl. Its kinda hard to fire your OC after that. But when you go 6-7 and staring 6-10 dead in the face with 4 first round draft picks on this offense who are far from bust there is no reason for the steelers scoring less than 21 points a game. Also remember Tomlin is a defensive guy, he was DC for the Vikings and a Secondary coach for the bucs. I'm pretty sure he has trusted BA but the results aren't there and he has to do the head coach thing. Its about time and they need to score on the next hiring. Mike Shananahan anyone? I know its a pipe dream but don't piss on my parade.
If this does happen I will rub it in the face of my father who tells me I shouldn't question Bruce Arians because he knows more about football since he coaches in the NFL..... I beg to differ.
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Here, Here...
Just because you get paid to do a job doesn’t mean you know how to do – look at past government employees & banking officers (don’t start a political rant please – this was just for an example).
Be your own FanCoach tannofsteel84 – I’m with you.
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 14, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions
Thanks
It always turns into a heated argument with pops. He blames everything on losing Troy P. But if you are losing 3 points for most games then a little bit of offensive production couldn’t hurt either.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 14, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
If you actually had to know more than the people you criticize
Bars would be as quiet as libraries.
(Which is not to say that all of us aren’t right about Arians!)
good one...
"The standard of expectation does not change." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Dec 14, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it IS troy's fault we are losing
Technically Troy’s absence is why we are losing. This is no question…
But a little offensive production wouldnt hurt.
Still, if we put up 24, the other team does 27, if we put up 20, they do 23. Troy’s that difference. We’ve lost with a variety of offensive productions.
schefter doesn't know anything more than any of us
At least on this one.
Firing Arians is tomlin’s call. You really think he’d announce that to anyone?
No, Schefter is just reading the writing on the wall.
Point taken
But in situations like there where there is smoke there is fire.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 14, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
totally. im cautiously optimistic.
but just saying… schefter doesn’t have anything but rumors behind his report. tomlin could go the other way.
by syrsteelerfan on Dec 14, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not even optimistic
If Mike Tomlin made decisions similar to how I make decisions the Rooney’s would have hired me.
Tomlin takes a much longer view on things, and if he sees a way to get back to winning ways with BA on board he’d do that. If he sees his chances of winning being better without BA than he goes. But I would be surprised if BA goes. I think Tomlin changes some of the situational playcalling tendencies, but that’s as far as it goes.
by Chicago Steeler on Dec 14, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
So what we are saying is...
… the Browns organizatoin is smarter than the Steeler organization. After Thursday night (ponder for a while)………….. yeah, that’s what we are saying.
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 5:33 AM EST up reply actions
Why would Giants let Gilbride go?
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Dec 14, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Darn!.....
….I was about to bring Buddy Ryan out of retirement to head up ST.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Dec 15, 2009 7:48 AM EST up reply actions
wasn't that beyond belief when buddy took a poke at Gilbride...........
were they both at Houston then?
Are you talking about when they got into a fight on the sidelines
if you are then it was in Philly if were talking about the same thing
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
It was that great playoff implosion they lost to Buffalo
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 16, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Ok when they were running the Run 'n' Shoot with Warren Moon
Now were on the same page
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Chris Carter and Kevin Greene
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
yep
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
That was what the 1991 playoffs so I was 6 months old
That may be why I don’t really remeber that
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Chris Carter and Kevin Greene
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I was just a little older than that
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
HA
Mike Shanahan is not going to be taking any OC jobs from anyone. I’m sure everybody would agree with me that he’d rather retire than take a demotion to OC for a team.
Texans need to miss the playoffs
that way we could get Kubiak.
by TomlinsPuffyJacket on Dec 14, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not but...?
If he doesn’t get any HC offers from a team he is interested in, it’s possible if unlikely that he would go for an OC job. He doesn’t strike me as a college HC. I would love to see Shanny as the Stillers OC, the only bad thing would be a short tenure. He would change everything and sometimes that means growing pains but it would be a great year or two until he gets back as a HC somewhere.
He had a lot to say about play selection as a HC and was one of the best play-callers in the NFL for a lot of years. I always loved his Go For The Throat play-calling when his team starts getting Big Mo’ on it’s side. BB could get behind a choice like that. Too bad it is so unlikely.
"Franz" in NoCal
last i heard
shanahan wanted total control wherever he went, so I doubt anyone could talk him into being an OC under Tomlin.
by indianasteelers on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Tomlin has got to do something
After a stinker of a season, heads must roll. Given that our special-teams coverage has been record-setting (in a bad way), ST coach Ligashesky is an obvious choice to take the fall. The question is whether Tomlin will use this opportunity to upgrade any of his other coaches. I agree with Varmint that it would make sense to put out some feelers as to who could take the OC position before canning Arians. If we can get someone better, go for it. Otherwise, it makes sense to stick with continuity.
Ask the Browns...
How well that worked when they tried it with BA.
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions
Arians may know more about football than the combined heads of each and every BTSC’er. But I don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that when a rocket explodes on a launch pad, something isn’t working. The offense has not been a disaster of that proportion until recently, but it also has rarely appeared to utilize all of its components effectively and it certainly has failed to score with the regularity that it should considering the talent it possesses.
by pghnorthside on Dec 14, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
AND...
there was a bit of momentum left over from Cowher & the Wizz that did start to fade during last season. Thank God for Harrison not only kicking it on defense but also becoming a RB and the D-Line becoming an O-Line.
Hey…. there’s an idea…. swap offensive and defensive units !! Your thoughts BA?
….. uuuhhhh
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 AM EST up reply actions
Some may disagree
But I still think Weis would be the perfect fit. We have the talent to run the type of offense he did in NE with a little more run emphasis. I know there have been concerns that he wouldn’t be here very long and that may be true but after his debacle at ND, I don’t think major schools will be lining up HC jobs for him.
He has had succuess
I just don’t like the pompous prick. With his fat gluttonous stupor. He was over-confident when he got to ND and I don’t like his smug self. But as long as he shut up and do a good job I think I could tolerate him.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 14, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I hate fat coaches
I as a player would have ZERO respect for a whale of an obese coach…
How many Super-Fat-Coaches (some scientists now consider them planets) have won super bowls compared to the leaner healthy coaches?
Wade Phillips = Fail
Andy Reid = Fail
Belicheat (not morbidly obese, just old) = win*
Cowher/Tomlin = Win
Dungy = Win
Coughlin = Win
Gruden = Win
Martz = Win
What about?
What about Mike Holmgren???… He was pretty fat too as I recall and he did win a Super Bowl.
Oh and...
Bill Parcells has always had a gut too… Though, I guess you wouldn’t consider him a fat coach.
I've always thought
he was one of the hardest coaches to look at. Plus, he has that huge pooch that chicks from the 80’s would have died for.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Dec 15, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Gibbs and Captain Obvious himself, John Madden
Noll as well all winners, none fat at time of wins
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by Steel Spike on Dec 15, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Madden wasn't fat but he wasn't skinny either he was some where in between
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Madden might have been a little lumpy
but not real fat.
"Chris! That's a terrible word! Pussywillows..."
-Lois Griffin
by Steel Spike on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
cottage cheese
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Strength & Speed, not...
Girth (fat) and Slow as molasses, as I said in another post about the players.
Eveyone in the NFL has changed to Strength & Speed… why not the coaches too?
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
Schefter also reported that Hampton was on the chopping block before the season started.
Schefter also reported that Ben would sit out the baltimore game before anyone else did.
He is not “reliable”, but he is not always wrong either.
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
I believe ....
….Glazer over on Fox broke the BB story but I could be wrong.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Dec 15, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
Thank You God!
I hope this news is true. Has the Good Lord answered the collective prayers of the Steeler Nation? Please let it be so. I hope the Allegheny County Sheriffs escort him to the city limits and kick him square in his ass as he leaves.
with his super bowl ring he won us?
have a little respect. over emos
I drank before the game cause I was excited
I drank during the game cause I was confused
I drank after the game cause, well, I was already drinking. why not?
by Steelchamps !! on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
he didn't win that ring for us
Ben improvised for most of that last drive.
If you can really point to any area though, our defense won that ring for us. Sure they gave up a couple of TD’s in that 4th quarter, but they put us in that position earlier in the game, and the whole season. (Dallas, San Diego 1st time, Baltimore all 3 times, the 1st Browns game=all games where the offense did nothing, and the D saved us)
BA was the OC for a SB winning team, sure. Ringo Starr was the Beatles drummer, too.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Dec 15, 2009 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
Now wait a minute...
… In the Beatle’s “Abbey Road” album, Ringo was responsible for “An Octopus’s Garden”.
Well… OK….. I guess you’re right.
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 5:55 AM EST up reply actions
Ringo sux and he's a bad actor
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I have a heart
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I didn't know that
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I got it from the Wizard
Dorothy helped me
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
How the cowerdly lion
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Naw he got stopped by a ratbird this weekend
teh scarecrow got away with his stuffing though.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Thats good
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ringo sucks?
Really? Have you never heard “You’re Sixteen”?
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 15, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yep at my 16th birthday
oh wait….
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
One of the only songs that makes me say...
What a dirty old man. I mean, I know he wasn’t that old when he wrote it, but ummm… yeah.
That and “Sweet Caroline”. I’m looking at you Neil.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 15, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
They get married at a younger age in some states that have mountains that I won't mention
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Well...
… He is richer ! That’s for sure.
by Hollywood Steel on Dec 15, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Some guys to consider
Bobby April, Buffalo Bills Special Teams Coach – the Bills special teams unit has been ranked number 1 in the NFL three out of the past five years. Might make sense to give him a look considering Buffalo might blow that team up and start over. And if next year is uncapped, they won’t be able to sign anyone so April might be looking for a way out of another dreadful season.
Jack Bicknell Jr., Giants Asst. O-line – the Giants have had one of the best units in the NFL for a couple of years now. Bicknell is in his first season coming over from Boston College. BC has had a good history of producing good pro linemen.
Jim Hueber, Vikings Asst. O-line – he has been coaching for 35 years, mostly at the collegiate level. His units at Wisconsin and Minnesota were more than successful at producing 1,000 yard rushers.
Bob Bostad, O-line coach at Wisconsin,
Dan Sharp, Special teams & Tight ends coach at TCU
Mark Whipple, Off. coordinator at Miami
Norm Chow, off. coordinator at UCLA
I don't know about Norm Chow
he did produce Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart but I don’t if he is a right fit for us
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
He also produced
Phillip Rivers. Little known fact, Norm Chow was Phillip Rivers Offensive Coordinator Rivers freshman year, the year he set NC State fans hearts ablaze with his amazing play. I would love a norm chow coached offense, balanced with unpredictability and good drawn up sound plays. I’m not sure what happened to him in the pros but he might deserve another shot.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Dec 15, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder if any of Pitt's coaches
would be interested in a part-time job….
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
It's just rumors
Shefter and Chris Mortenson are hacks. They are the sports equivelants of the National Enquirer or TMZ. They look for any rumor to spread, making up their own as well, to stay in the limelight.
Mortenson created the whole ‘Vick is a good fit for Pittsburgh’ thing. Now he’s saying Kevin Colbert is leaving Pittsburgh to work for Cowher again.
These sports ‘bloggers’ are no better than gossip columnists.
Still, I hope its true
I can’t help imagining Tomlin driving with BA (appropriately) riding shot gun, like in the “Too Light-Too Heavy” beer commercial. I’ll take the “Too Heavy” version, where BA is booted out of the car somewhere near the Pittsburgh airport.
I was thinking somewhere near a forest
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame
DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel and Chris Carter
by WVPiratesfan on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
BA’s offense makes sense in the south or in a dome, not on frozen turf. The OL coach is too stupid to know NOT to send pron on a company computer, and the special teams coach needs to be an expert motiviator, and I guess he’s not.
Nonsense even in outer space
Running a play with an empty backfield on three of your first four third downs does not make sense anywhere. The empty backfield only works if it surprises the defense. Rob Ryan obviously knows math so the predictable empty backfield did not work:
If it’s a pass, there will only be three guys (at most) on either side of the line to block, and this is if everyone reads the blitz right and slides that way (C, G, T). So blitz three or more defenders from one side. Worst case, O line plays it perfect and you have your guys in one on one pass rushing matchups. If the O line doesn’t play it perfect, someone is running free.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
By the way
I shouldn’t have wrote “if” it’s a pass. Empty backfield with a franchise QB that has a history of head injuries means pass every single time.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Dec 15, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone think a wild card for OC could be..
Russ Grimm, Knows the players, knows how to win here, a step closer to being a head coach. I believe he is only a O-line coach out in Pittsburgh West.
He is also assistant head coach
so OC would be a demotion
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Asst Head Coach,O-line Coach and Run Coordinator...
…are his official designations.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Dec 15, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
he also apparently left us pissed he didn't get Tomlin's job
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
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