Question regarding James Farrior's sack-fumble

by mojo88 on Dec 2, 2009 7:09 PM EST

I was watching the game Monday morning in my office at work, so the sound was off, and I may have missed the commentators mentioning something about this. When James Farrior strip sacked Joe Flacco, just before the end of regulation, the Ravens recovered the football about 5 yards ahead of where the fumble occurred. It was my understanding that any fumble in the the fourth quarter, or at least the last two minutes, which was recovered by the offense, was to be placed at the spot where the ball was fumbled, unless the player who fumbled recovered it. Yet, Sunday night's game it clearly wasn't. Have I missed something?

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No - you are correct

The announcers discussed this at the time. This goes back to the “Holy Roller” performed by Stabler and Casper of the hated Raiders (against San Diego if memory serves).

Ended up not mattering but can you imagine if that kick squeaks over the cross bar and the Steelers lose at that point?

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Dec 2, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions

That was my thought at the time too. Tomlin’s hell might have been unleashed an hour early

by mojo88 on Dec 2, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions

It was in fact ...

against San Diego. Your memory is still pre-Alzheimer’s.

by tenthmtnman on Dec 3, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions

Al Michaels called it during the game.

Had Oakland’s FG been good, the Steelers would have had a solid basis for protesting the call to the league.

by Billy52 on Dec 2, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions

Surely, you mean ...

Baltimore’s FG … :o)

by tenthmtnman on Dec 3, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions

Yes he meant Baltimore

and stop calling him Shirley

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by PixburghArn on Dec 3, 2009 8:18 AM EST up reply actions

Thanks for ...

picking up on that! :o) I wanted to work it into the post but couldn’t quickly. Thanks for the assist!

by tenthmtnman on Dec 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

I felt the pull

and I saw the tee before you placed that one down.

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by PixburghArn on Dec 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions

It is ...

apparent that the referees got caught up in the emotion and urgency of the Ravens attempting to get the FG team on the field and the kick away before an unsympathetic clock expired. Momentarily forgot their priorities and made what could could have been a huge mistake. Where was the replay official while all this was going on? And not to put too fine a point on this, but Al and Chris came up with this after the break and not while the play was occurring.

by tenthmtnman on Dec 3, 2009 8:04 AM EST reply actions

Does this rule work in the reverse order?

Like if you fumble it backwards and recover it, is it spotted at the place of the fumble?

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by John Stephens on Dec 3, 2009 8:34 AM EST reply actions

No

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 3, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions

That is a double standard

If the ball is fumbled the defender should just kick it down field.

by John Stephens on Dec 3, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions

kicking a loose ball is illegal

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Dec 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions

"I was running after it"

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions

then you kicked it

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions

Not intentionally

It’s a football, they bounce weird

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions

then keep your feet away from it

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions

Erroneous

You let the punter and kicker just do whateeeeever they want, but I incidentally tap it with my victim and suddenly I am the criminal.

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions

^but I incidentally tap it with my foot and suddenly I am the criminal.

oops

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions

Your job is to tackle their job is to kick

just ask Jeff Reed…ain’t that right Jeff?

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions

Jeff here

My job is to look like a character from DragonBall Z

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions

Dude

I love the sidecars

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions

They seem intelligent

Especially, the one on the right. She has big brains I bet

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

I was going to use a line from "Dumb and Dumber" but

I just can’t bring myself to type it out.

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions

How does he end up with hot chick all around him

how does that happen he’s the kicker

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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 4, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

Money or Game

The game stays the same just different players. Money makes up for much game. Game makes up for lack of money.

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions

Simple

Money. He has it, women want it. Not to add you become quasi-famous for hooking up with an NFL player regardless of position.

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

But they do have favorite positions

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions

Now that is something Jeff can get his hands on

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

And I guess he wouldn't have problems tackling either

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions

The one on the right looks like Lindsey Lohan

and the one on the left just looks like a lady of the night, if you know what I mean

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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 4, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions

Lohan looks like crap...that is no Linsey Lohan

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by PixburghArn on Dec 4, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

She looks like Lohan

Before her cocaine phase, before her Lesbian phase, before her shitty movie phase (oh…nvm on that one).

Like Mean Girls Lohan.

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Excatlly before she turned into a train wreck

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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 4, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly when I started to find her not attractive

by John Stephens on Dec 4, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions

Lindsey... if you're reading this...

And we all know you are… right?

You can always come home to good ol NYSteelersFan4. I’m here for you. Y’all are a bunch of haters.

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 4, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions

She is reading it just like the FO does

they did sign Anthony Madison so they must read it

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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 4, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions

I hate rules that apply only in sertain times and not in others.

If you fumble forward intentionally it should be an imcomplete pass. If you’re beond the line of scrimmage it should be an illeagal forward pass and penalized.
Then make one fumble rule and stick with it.
Problem solved.
I know it’s hard to determine intent, but it’s no harder than say determining a ball is uncatchabe and they do that all the time.
Really the best solution is not to allow a fumbled ball advanced by anyone except the fumbler solves all.

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by SNW on Dec 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions