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A Perfect Cap To My Perfect Weekend

At 7:37 pm central time on Sunday evening, my plane form Wichita, Kansas to Orange County, California was schedule to take off. At 6:24, the Green Bay Packers took their first lead of the game, 36-31 on a 24 yard TD throw by Aaron Rogers, his third of the game.

'[Insert expletive]," I mumbled to my girlfriend.  "It's going to be pandemonium in Steelers Nation after this latest late game collapse and loss. I guess the lone bright spot about this mess of a season is it will make finding a central theme for next year's Maple Street Press publication that much easier to identify and stick to. Unbelievable. We better get to the airport."

With my cellphone dead, I wasn't even tempted to check how the final two minutes of the game transpired. I couldn't help but let my mind wander towards thoughts about just how incredible it was that the Steelers kept finding ways to lose games despite (most weeks at least) playing quality and spirited football for large portions of the game. For the most part though, I was focused on spending a final few minutes with my adorable lady friend whom I'd spent had an incredible weekend with.

After saying goodbye, I hustled into the predictably unintimidating and uncrowded Wichita airport with no boarding pass printed and about 35 minutes until departure. My mind's now on my great weekend and thoughts of her. I'm also relieved that it won't take more than 2 minutes to get to the gate. There were maybe 3 people in line and just a few other folks that didn't look like they were traveling anywhere. They had no bags and were just staring intently at something I couldn't see from where I was standing.

Is that the look of men watching football? It is! And it doesn't look like it's a commercial break or a segment where Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are talking judging from the looks of their faces. Steelers highlights on NFL Network!

I hadn't forgotten but my phone was dead and I wasn't expecting to have time to find a bar with a TV, let alone have enough time to wait for what I was looking for. Anyway, I look up and it's the game winner from Big Ben to Mike Wallace

I'm really not going to try to describe my elation and astonishment in words. No need either, as I'm sure we all  reacted in more or less in the same ecstatic way - an exuberant (and often really silly) outburst followed by long-lasting satisfaction about the whole experience and future prospects. I suppose I was surrounded by a small group of entertained but still very stoic old men in boots and demeanors that suggested they laughed no more than once a month. So i had to reign in my nerd-tastic celebration dance or ridiculous outburst of any sort to make sure I didn't get my ass kicked and miss my flight.

I sure was thrilled though. 

Had I given up on the Steelers? Not at all. I dutifully showed up to watch and cheer on the team like I do every week. And I was awfully impressed and entertained by the quality of football being played. We were also reminded once again just how much this year's defense is struggling and how unlikely it is at this point that they'll be able to overcome their deficiencies on that side of the ball in order to make another run to the Super Bowl if and it's still a big if they were to sneak in to the playoffs.  

There's all offseason to think and talk about those kinds of things though. For another week at least, the Steelers proved why they're the defending champs and how they're not going to go quietly this year.  It just so happens that certain key Wild Card hopefuls fell on their face today, including my favorite fraud, the Denver Broncos.

We'll get in to some of the particulars of the playoff picture and more thoughts about this game itself, but for now, I rest. Happy.

Go Steelers! 

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EXACTLY BLITZ

Steelers this why they are Super Bowl champs. My prayers were answered Thank the Lord Jesus Christ! What a great play.

Doug Fowler

by steelerfan19650511 on Dec 21, 2009 6:02 AM EST reply actions  

16 inches of snow in DC, hungry after watching the two late games....

…nearly all the restaurants in my ’hood are closed. When I took the dog out for a quick wiz, I noted the Kosher place was open. So I took her back inside, and went over to the restaurant for some overpriced overgreased food. Wearing my Steeler hoodie and earmuffs. I ordered Matzo ball soup and a potato pancake with applesauce to go.

Sitting at the bar, I noticed on the TV on the right that Fox had switched to the Steeler game. Last 30 seconds. I moved next to that TV and next to a big table with eight college students. The four boys were wearing yarmulkes. They weren’t paying much attention – if any – to the game.

When Ben threw the pass and Wallace came down with it and the ref called it a touchdown, my jaw dropped and I involuntarily said – slowly and accenting every word – Oh — my – God!

Heads turned in my general direction, for I had just kinda violated the Third Commandment in a strictly Kosher restaurant…. name in vain, and all that. The whole restaurant turned quiet.

One girl at the table saw the hypocycloids on the front of my hoodie, looked up at the screen, and said the word, “Roethlisberger.” They were showing the replay on the teevee, and everybody looked up. There was a wow or two, and somebody looked at me and said “mazel tov” but it seemed more sarcastic than genuine.

Finally, my matzo ball soup came, along with the three potato pancakes. The waiter mentioned that they had no applesauce, because they had a run on the stuff last week – with Hannukah and all that. So I’d have to settle for sour cream on the potato latkes. (I am NOT making this stuff up!)

I took the food home, and the soup and potato pancakes weren’t half bad. Of course, it was also the taste of victory.

Anyway, it’s high noon on Monday now, and DC is still half-buried in snow, but I’m gonna trudge over to Mickey D’s for an Angus Bacon Cheeseburger. I’m still in shock over last night’s finish.

I don’t know if Santa came early, or Hannukah Harry waited till the end to drop the big package on us…..but that was one helluva holiday gift that Ben and Wallace left.

Merry Christmas to one and all. Good tidings. Peace on earth, good will to men, and good health and joy to all of us here at BTSC. There is hope in the world, in a lives, and for the Steelers.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Dec 21, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What BA proved!

Six passes to Rush hard a couple to MeMo, for to Heath. Some were targeted. Some were check downs that went positive. There were some nice rushing plays in the first half. They were all important to our win.

Those plays were not the mark of creative genius but rather basic offensive stategy that us as fans have been calling for all along.

What did BA prove? He cannot be sent into oblivion quickly enough.

by steelerstyle on Dec 21, 2009 6:05 AM EST reply actions  

EXACTLY!

This is what the offense is capable of any game day. I want someone who can unleash more then once or twice a season.

Temporary Saints fan.

by svenhoek on Dec 21, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

??? Not sure that's entirely correct:

13 vs TN
14 vs CHI
12 vs CIN (game 2)
6 vs CLE

by lloyd95 on Dec 21, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

well said

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 21, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

steelers collapse is on defense

That onside kick worked even if ike taylor did touch it before ten yards it gave the steelers enough time to come back.

Doug Fowler

by steelerfan19650511 on Dec 21, 2009 6:20 AM EST reply actions  

They're not the only ones

Are we the only ones that understand why Tomlin went for the onside kick? Genius is often misunderstood.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 21, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Heck of a gamble

But am I the only one who was wondering why Tomlin didn’t call timeout with under two to play (they had two timeouts at that point) right after the one sack, which Ben should have thrown away to stop the clock? It seemed that about 20 seconds ran off, seemed like poor clock management.

Otherwise, what a drive.. what a nail biter, but in some ways, you know they can do that kind of stuff. Makes it more painful when they blow those opportunities, but greatness when they do. Great game, great win, and it might be possible to sneak in with some of the help that was out there (Nice game Oakland).

by Twell on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

They only had 1 timeout when they got on offense

and had used it already at that point in the drive.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 21, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Post-Gazette

was also blasting Tomlin for the call today. I still don’t get it. As the man said, neither defense showed an ability to make a stop.

I also loved his quote about the decision
“I wear that like a badge of honor,” Tomlin said. “That comes with the job. I don’t live in fear.” Well said.

by SteelerBuddha on Dec 21, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They are always good

the problem is with the atmosphere of the hearer.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I have been going back and forth on buying a new jersey next year

I want one of the authentic throw back ones. I’ve been split between Woodley, Mendy, and Wallace (17 is my lucky number). After that catch last night, and after the immense cursing and cheering I did, I turned to my fellow Steeler mate and said, “That’s it. I am getting a Mike Wallace Jersey!” What a tremendous catch that was. Nate Washington, who? It feels so good to get another quality win. Despite having a bad year and maybe not making the playoffs, it is good to know that we can still hang with the best teams in the NFL.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

I was supposed to get one for X-Mas

But they were completely sold out. This was a few weeks ago mind you.

Good luck.

Temporary Saints fan.

by svenhoek on Dec 21, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

well we know who the problem is NOT: Big Ben…even though he took some needless sacks, 500 yards and 3 tds, and you only win by one..the defense especially the secondary needs to step up!

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Dec 21, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

secondary needs to step up

How about William Gay just steps down. He can find the bench.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.-- John Madden

by steelcitysweetheart on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Why step down? He's always falling down....

…so let him stay down.

We can get Gay one of those Life Alert thingees (As Seen on TV), and he can lay there on the field repeating, “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!”

Then Dr. C. Everett Koop can come out there with the medics and cart his ass of the field and accompany him to the bench. Just because Will-I-Am lives alone out there on his island doesn’t mean he has to be alone on the bench. He and Dr Koop can watch the game together, and we’ll all be safer.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He still needs to throw it away

…especially on the last drive, he took the sack instead of stopping the clock.

But yeah, what a game he had..no interceptions…screens and check downs were happening…nice to see the adjustments

by Twell on Dec 21, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

in my best sarcastic voice,

“That’s the kind of solid, convincing win you need to really build some confidence around”.

Not to rain too hard on anyone’s parade, but the Steelers were damn lucky to get out of that game without a loss featuring a blown 10-point lead in the 4th quarter. I was very impressed with how they were able to move the ball on Green Bay, though I’m going to attribute that to a great game by Ben and the receiving playmakers rather than halfway competent playcalling from Arians. And I thought the kick coverages were very strong throughout. The defense is a shell of its former self; I loved the pressure they put on Rodgers during GB’s first two series, but once again the secondary got eaten alive.

I really wonder how the defense will respond to the onsides kick call. IIRC, the Patriots defense didn’t exactly step up in the weeks following Belichick’s 4th-and-2 gamble.

All in all, there must be a half-eaten piece of meat on the grass at Heinz Field, because only a Heimlich maneuver could have prevented a choking collapse like we nearly saw yesterday.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

luck

sure it was luck, no one cares about luck all we care about is winning we can get lucky for the rest of the season for all I care

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 21, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Who cares?

Luck has been impossible for us to catch this year. Glad it reared its head in our direction this week.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

don't get me wrong

I’m happy about the win, and that was easily the most exciting game this year apart from Pats-Colts. I’d just be happier if I liked how the Steelers were playing, and I haven’t liked what I’ve been seeing since, oh, the second game against Cincy.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Enjoy the offense at least

They played damn well. Bask in a win!

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll never understand BA's playcalling

But yeah, Ben and the boys really moved the ball well. All the guys who needed to be involved (Wallace, Tone, Hines, Heath, Mendy) were factors in this one.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Something to note

…GB has the #2 defense at this point. Imagine what would happen with a good OC and OL coach.

by Twell on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Arians is a victim of confirmation bias

Arians has a tendency to abandon the mathematical model of winning football (45-55% run calls, depending on the quality of your QB) when the game starts going his way.

Admittedly, the Packers couldn’t stop anyone yesterday. And it is to their credit that they kept holding. In fact, I think if they had held a few more times on that last drive, they might have just run out the clock. Sure, letting the Steelers get consecutive first downs down to the 40 would suck, but I think the Packers odds would have been higher had they allowed that as opposed to letting Holmes and Miller get free too many times. A hail mary is still a better proposition than giving Ben four tries at a surgical strike within the 20.

by theobserver on Dec 21, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

2 games lett

the fire is still alive….

If they can get in, and get troy’s ass back on that field, the team COULD go on a run…..stranger things have happened!!!

The Towel Flies!!!!

by Ragnar808 on Dec 21, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

If Troy comes back

…I like their chances at this point. That offense took on the #2 D and look what they did…with Troy, the balance on our D changes for the better. In the meantime, lets knock the Ravens and Miami out of the playoffs!!

by Twell on Dec 21, 2009 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Steelers win out

The Ravens and the Steelers make it as the Wild Cards. I am pretty sure that nothing else is happening. This is my prediction and I am not changing that.

"We are only going to score 17 points?"

by Han on Dec 21, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

Nothin else is happening?

I mean something else would have to happen right? Gotta play either the Bengals or the Pats, I’d prefer the bengals.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 21, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

We can still win out and not make it

We need Denver to lose this week.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry, i can't resist

Playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? Don’t talk about the playoffs! Playoffs?

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, but you could have

"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.

by kick him in the head on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you would have

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Blitz

The next time your in my neck of the woods, look me up! I will feed you on the house for all the good work you do with BTSC! www.bomberburger.net

Yes we were jumping around the living room like 13 year old girls who just won Hanna Montana tickets! Great game to watch but since the Wife is a GB fan……..no tail for Daddy on Sunday, but I will take that trade right now! Go Steelers!

I wasn't hired for my disposition!

by Burgernazi on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

hehe

My man and I are both Steeler nuts. It was a great night.

by jglo on Dec 21, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

nice Burgernazi

I checked out the site, there’s some gems on there such as: “Any dumb ass can get it done once, it takes talent to get it right every time!”

I happened to notice that you serve a Roethlisberger…that makes it every Steeler fan’s duty to stop by if in Witchita…

by HereWeGo on Dec 21, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks BN!

We will definitely check it out next time we’re in town. Appreciate it! Looks like legit burgers btw

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

onsides kick

I’m not sure who first equated onsides kicks, or going for it on fourth down as some disrespect for defense. It’s incredibly myopic. Does every run disrespect the passing game? Does every punt or field goal disrespect the offense? does a timeout disrespect the player’s ability to hussle?
Ike is a key part of the defense, and did you see how ecstatic he was to be going for the onside kick? If anything, he was too amped. And defenses love when the offense keeps them on the sidelines.
Announcers need to stop armchair coaching all 4th down attempts and onside kicks. It’s a chess match at times, screaming at someone because they just sacrificed their queen is a fool’s action.

As for the playoffs, that KC loss was the worst. A division rival, even a bad one, eventually breaks a long losing streak. And the Raiders, as dysfunctional as they are, they did also beat the Eagles, Bengals and Broncos. I just wish they had put all 3 teams away 30-7 and this latest victory would be another brick towards the playoff run.

Huge game coming up, regardless of what Denver does.

by vherub on Dec 21, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not sure who first equated onsides kicks, or going for it on fourth down as some disrespect for defense.

Well, Tomlin did pretty much say that he made that call because he expected the defense to get scored on and he wanted enough time left to drive down the field. Not exactly a compliment to the defense, no matter how you look at it. If you’re a player on that defense, you want the chance to hold a two-point lead at home with three minutes left. And Tomlin basically told them he didn’t trust them in that situation.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

huh

I would have expected the rationale was a lack of faith in our kick coverage, not the regular defense.

by Varmint on Dec 21, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the special teams actually had a solid game. Particularly in light of past performances, the kick teams did their jobs yesterday.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Dec 21, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But I meant their play in general. It wasn’t that long ago we had posts recommending squib kicks and onsides for every single kick.

by Varmint on Dec 21, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Tomlin gave them chances plenty this year

There has to be a point where Tomlin says enough of this crap. Last night was that point. Thank goodness Tomlin finally did.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The stat saying the defense has given up 4th Q leads in 5 losses should tell them that too. That last GB touchdown had Burnett and Gay on the left side of the defense so it was inevitable.

by StinkBomb on Dec 21, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But all we should be focused on is winning. Do your part and hope the rest falls into your hands. That is the attitude we need from our team.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I’m sorry, but Denver isn’t very good. They’re 2-6 down the stretch, and they lucked into a big win against a Giants team that was coming apart at the seams.

8-8 is a real possibility for the Denver Pony Show. The Eagles (next opp) are a team no one wants to play right now.

Kyle Orton is the kind of QB that makes me feel a fourth Chiefs win (finale) could happen. The earlier win in KC by Denver was largely a product of the rushing game and turnovers. The Chiefs need to dare Kyle Orton to win the game.

by theobserver on Dec 21, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice game recap. Lol

This blog is way better when you guys win games. There are meaningful posts to troll rather than “stick with comcast redzone” stories.

Great, great win yesterday. I fear for my life on Sunday.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 21, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks
This blog is way better when you guys win games.

Give us a hand with that next week. ;)

by Varmint on Dec 21, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Malor....

W. T. F. is up with your pic?

Temporary Saints fan.

by svenhoek on Dec 21, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It is Mark Sanchez as Princess Laya (Spelling?) and Rex Ryan as Jaba the Hut. Lol, I like to change it up alot. Sometimes I put some crazy crap up there.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Dec 21, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Great W

I forgot how much better mondays are after a win. Feels Great and yes lets just win out and hope for the best. If we don’t make it to the dance atleast we’ll finish the season with our pride

by NovaSteelFan on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

I thought this was the best game of the season

I’ll be honest, I fully expected a loss this weekend, and I was basically watching this game like it was a pre-season game. But, I couldn’t help myself in the 4th quarter. Although I knew they’d blow the lead, I still hoped for a miracle, even while I tried not to expect it. But just from a pure fan of the game standpoint, this was the best game the NFL has had in a while. Five or six lead changes in the 4th, I think, and a game winning drive on a pass with no time on the clock! Are you kidding me?!

I agree with those who say that this team still has issues. The defense can’t stop anyone in the fourth quarter, and the offense (as great as Ben played) still left points on the field, settling for FGs when they knew the defense needed TDs. Right now, teams expect to come back against the Steelers in the fourth, so until the offense starts burying these teams, this will continue. With that said, I’ll take this win, enjoy it, and not really worry about the rest of the season.

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

50 Sense
  • Congratulations to Ben Roethlisberger with a Steeler record 503 yards passing. Even better was the 3 TDs and 0 INT. He definitely holds the ball way too long at times but that’s how he plays QB…until a real OC takes him to the next level next year.
  • Mike Tomlin did a great job coaching throughout the game. I saw him on the sidelining cajoling Mike Wallace after a TD and teaching Joe Burnett after a mistake. One time after Ben held the ball too long and was sacked out of FG range I saw him turn around and tap BA on the belly as if to absolve him of the play in the face of all the criticism. I don’t agree with the onside kick in that situation just as I disagreed with Belicheat* earlier this year. But I see Tomlin’s point and think the move smells of a DB in Round 1 in April’s draft.
  • We saw BA’s offensive personality on stage yesterday. Throw, throw and throw. When Ben looks like Superman like yesterday it’s a still a shaky strategy.
  • I will go to war with Hines Ward 7 Sunday’s out of 7. Hobbled or healthy the guy is a football player. He is one of the few guys on the Y2K Steelers decade that could have played with the Super Steelers in the 70’s…and contributed.
  • Casey Hampton is on the wrong side of 30. He is overweight. He has had cardio issues with Tomlin. He has not been extended and the conventional wisdom in preseason was he is gone. After watching the Steelers in 2009 he has been a bright spot. I don’t see how the Steelers can play 3/4 next year without Snack. Got to draft a NT high and keep 98 for another couple years if he will sign a competitive contract. And Jeff Reed blew the Chicago game but not many others I can think of since Cowher gave him a tryout against 10 other college kickers in the Pittsburgh winter at Heinz to replace ineffective Todd Peterson. He is clutch. He’s an alcoholic but we must get him under contract and to an AA meeting.
  • Max Starks had the worst game I have ever seen him play against Green Bay’s rookie Clay Matthews. I will say this, on the last flag he picked up Matthews attempted to go around and under Max (again) and Max simply fell on top of the rookie and pinned him on the ground. To me, it looked legal and was the only thing I can say in Stark’s defense. Ramon Foster at G on the other hand looked good. He should supplant Essex next year.
  • Currently, Tyrone Carter lacks the speed to play safety in the NFL. He contributed while here but is now a liability. Ryan Clark is a warrior and I am amazed he recovered from the 2007 Denver incident to play at such a high level in 2008. That injury has caught up to him and he no longer is the same player. I don’t blame him for the TD to Finley who has 6 inches in height but 25 has lost a step. Same for Townsend who made a clutch play in the EZ yesterday but is not an NFL CB anymore. To those who say William Gay will get better I believe you. But he is a nickel back and not a quality NFL CB. Joe Burnett had issues and K Lewis hasn’t seen the field. more reasons I see the Steelers taking a DB early in April.
  • On the brightside Mike Wallace will be All Pro once Hines steps aside. Rashard Mendenhall will replace FWP nicely next year and he is better in the passing game. Also I see Mewelde Moore is still on the team. Thought he retired after the electric 2008. Jury is still out on Ziggy who was sighted chasing Aaron Rodgers out of bounds on one play yesterday.
  • I hope Packer Coach Mike McCarthy and his team enjoyed the Aiello’s pizza and hoagies on the plane ride back to Green Bay.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Foster seriously looks better than Essex and he’s a rookie.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 21, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

he just needed some more playing time , and he looks pretty good

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Dec 21, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to the Ravens Game

This will be my first time at Heinz field and I would like to try to get an autograph or two. Any suggestions, as to where I should go and when?

by Pittbull119 on Dec 21, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Cheerleaders on Liberty, Saturday night.

by Bug Ben on Dec 21, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going too, and it's also my first game at Heinz Field

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Dec 21, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I saw yesterday

I’m thinking that Tomlin brought Ben back too early against the Browns, and that there were concussion effects at work. There was no confusion and precious little indecision on Ben’s part yesterday – when he was sacked, he was still checking down, not just wandering.

Chalk this season up (or down) to unfortunate personnel losses for which the Steelers have no good answers. Now we know for sure how much Troy and Aaron are worth in this system.

And thanks for the win against the Packers, guys – my son can wear his Steeler jersey proudly today to his very-much-Packer-fan high school.

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Dec 21, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

That Browns game was just crap weather

It was almost to wind what the Mud Bowl was to slop.

by theobserver on Dec 21, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

It's time to call out Ryan Clark

He’s a freakin shoulder tackler who refuses to wrap up and tackle clean. He’d rather kill a guy and whiff trying than make a decent open field tackle. Playing alongside Tyrone Carter (who just takes awful angles and lacks catch-up speed), Clark needs to realize he has to stay back and play more of Darren Perry type game. I know you don’t want to coach aggression out of a successful player, but right now Ryan Clark can’t afford to be anything more than a conventional free safety.

by theobserver on Dec 21, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Clark is Garfunkel to Polamalu's Simon...

Together, they make beautiful music together. Their harmonies are perfect.

Alone, Troy (Simon) is still a superstar. Alone, Clark (Garfunkel) can still do some decent work and earn a very good living, but he will always be remembered as part of a duo.

The silver lining to all this is that Clark hasn’t exactly set the league on fire this year, and the Steelers won’t have to break the bank to sign him in the offseason, if that’s the route they choose to go.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Dec 21, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Without Simon, our secondary is in troubled water

Great analogy, Homer J., recalling one of the iconic sounds of the late 60s! I saw S&G in their first reunion tour at old Three Rivers.

To the substance of your post: people forget how bad the secondary became when Clark was replaced by A. Smith in ‘07. Clark is a smarter player who knows how to play our defense, he just can’t cover anyone very well. That weakness, apparently, was negated when Troy was on the field.

by MelBlunt on Dec 21, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Problem is

He is a centerfielder, an enforcer in the middle and without a playmaker to take care of the underneath stuff like Troy does, he is forced to do a lot more. Not only is that not his forte but doing this takes him away from his regular responsibilities. In short, too much toast, not enough butter… But he’ll do fine once Troy returns. It’s the cornerback play that worries me.

Please stop unleashing hell, coach, I can't take it anymore!!!

by Steelfrog on Dec 21, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yes the steelers have major issues in the defensive backfield . . .

but the losses of aaron smith and (for a time) kiesel was probably more detrimental to the definse than polamalu’s loss . . . those guys occupied offensive linemen to the point where the linebackers could more easily get to the quarterback . . . with the rules in today’s nfl, if you can’t get to the quarterback quickly, the receiver has a huge advantage against the best of cornerbacks . . . moral? . . . address both lines in the off season . . .

by VIN K on Dec 21, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

I disagree

We already have invested in the Dline. We have to develop the kids (Hood, Harris and McClendon) behind our vets. We do need playmakers in the defensive backfield, though. Townsend and Carter are likely gone and so could Clark. We need to get more youth and ball skills back there…

Please stop unleashing hell, coach, I can't take it anymore!!!

by Steelfrog on Dec 21, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

They are getting killed so bad in the defensive secondary Tomlin had to onside. They do need a young NT if Snack walks.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 21, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i disagree with your disagree . . . how do you beat peyton, brady, favre consistently??

 . . . you get to them before they throw the ball . . . i can’t argue that the steelers’ db’s look horrible . . . but show me a consistently successful team and i’ll show a team that is strong on the lines . . . it’s not sexy . . . but to win in the nfl, you have to own the line of scrimmage . . . this axiom will never change . . . and it has been painfully obvious this year . . . the same d-backs that are getting beat this year are the same d-backs that played stellar last year . . . the difference? . . . markedly reduced pass rush this year . . .

by VIN K on Dec 21, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude!

Greg Lloyd was a late round pick and Donnie Shell was undrafted. The important part is they got a very good endorsement from their Dline coach, and I kind of trust the guy!!! Plus you conveniently omit that we invested a first round pick in Ziggy Hood. And by the way, in our system, linebackers mostly apply the pressure…

Please stop unleashing hell, coach, I can't take it anymore!!!

by Steelfrog on Dec 21, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

relax . . . geez!

i didn’t mention ziggy because he was a first rounder . . . the steelers lone upper rounder that is under thirty for that matter . . . the d-line is in BIG trouble . . . and how do the linebackers get such good pressure?? . . . the d-linemen occupying o-linemen . . . that’s the way the 3-4 defense works! . . . and for every lloyd or shell you bring up, i can bring up 100 that are bagging groceries right now . . . what’s d-line coach suppose to say . . . “these young players suck”???

by VIN K on Dec 21, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I'm very relaxed

What did coach Mitchell say about Orien Harris? Nothing. He just cut him. There’s no reason to say it’s the best group of young pups he’s had in a very long time if there’s not something there. We’d hear it every year. We don’t. Keisel rocks, Smith will be back and Hampton is still a beast (see him last night bust through the line?) although I agree he might have lost a hump and be gone next year anyway. I think Kischke will retire, but if you ask if the guy can still hold the edge or play some undertackle this year, the answer is yes IMO. So with the young guys behind (and Nick Eason, a serviceable backup) I can understand thinking about who’s going to replace Hampton or more realistically Hoke’s spot as he will move up next year, but no panick necessary.

Priority number one – SKILLED Competition in the secondary.
Two- A mack backer.
Three- An outside backer
Four- Stikum on gloves to become legal again

Please stop unleashing hell, coach, I can't take it anymore!!!

by Steelfrog on Dec 21, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

Throw in a noseguard in there somewhere…

Please stop unleashing hell, coach, I can't take it anymore!!!

by Steelfrog on Dec 21, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

as stated . . . the secondary does suck and needs to be addressed . . .

but all our starting d-linemen are on the north side of thirty . . . effectiveness can markedly decrease at ant time . . . when the likes of peyton, brady, brees, et al are beaten, the most-likely cause is constant pressure/hits/sacks . . . all that starts with a strong line . . . i’ve been watching the steelers since i knew what football was (1972) . . . there has always been a correlation between strong line (both sides) play and winning consistently . . . that will never change . . . who did the steelers draft that led to a complete turnaround from being hapless losers to one of the most dominant sports teams in the last 40 years? . . .

by VIN K on Dec 22, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

If we do draft DL

it only needs to be 1 guy, I mean there are only so many spots open on our Dline since we play a 3-4, ziggy will be taking more snaps next year, if you can’t get a top notch NT then you are wasting your time. Its best to get Hampton Signed and go after a good Dback in the upper rounds, we need talent there. We have talent, albeit old, on the line. with SHarris developing too, the only spot we really need to fill is NT. And if the top guys are gone by the time we pick, we’re better off going for a better saftey. Its not about addressing soley on needs, you still have to get the best player available in your list of need position. So you can’t just blindly reach for a NT when there was a Dback there.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 22, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree . . . the steelers need mondo upgrades to their db's . . .

but as i stated ad nauseum . . . with the rules heavily favoring the wr’s . . . the best of db’s will get beat if the guys on the line can’t control the line of scrimmage . . . it starts there . . . i never said to draft all dl’s . . . if a rod woodson type of cb falls to the steelers . . . snatch him . . . again . . . show me a strong team and i’ll show you a team with strong lines . . .

by VIN K on Dec 22, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Attended the game last night

Decided to go Saturday night and bought tickets on the Steelers website for my friend (Packers fan), my sister who is a huge Steelers fan and was visiting from Texas and myself. We got great seats in the lower level on the 50 yard line. Wow am I glad we decided to go. Even though it was an emotional roller coaster, that was amazing to see in person. Heinz was rocking last night and I hope that momentum carries over to next week and, with a whole lot of help, into the playoffs. One week at a time though. As for game notes, Tyrone Carter is even worse in person than he is on TV, as is William Gay. I can only hope we find a way to shore up the secondary because it is a serious problem. Anyways, enjoy the win Steelers Nation as I know we all needed something to celebrate after that losing streak.

by steelersfan4life on Dec 21, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

In defense of Bruce Arians

Yes go on. I am ready for the rotten eggs. But hear me out.

In this game and in this game alone, I think Bruce Arians coached a good game. A couple points.

1. Screens, swings, slants and dumps. For the first time in recent memory the offense featured a boat load of smart short passing plays. On many of these our backs stayed in to block and released late on others they were featured receivers playing off the line. All together the backs caught 9 for 98 with a 14 yard TD to Rashard Mendenhall brought back, due to a mistimed block. The TD to Mewelde Moore was a thing of beauty.

2. We picked up 537 yards and 36 points against one of the best defenses in the league. We may well have had more if not for costly drops on 3rd down by our receivers.

3. It was our defense that collapsed, giving up 22 fourth quarter points and getting only one sack against one of the few offenses that gives up more sacks than the Steelers. Why are we not hearing for LeBeau’s head instead of BA’s?

4. Yes, I know LeBeau has personnel issues. So what does BA have? We have an O-line cobbled together with UFA and low round picks. These guys were flat out beat up and outsmarted yesterday. They seem to me no less of a weak spot than the DB’s at times, giving up 5 sacks and allowing the QB to get hit on countless other occasions. The main difference is that BA had his play-makers show up yesterday, while LeBeau’s were largely MIA.

5. There was more creativity in this game. Flea-flicker’s, reverses, delay draws, etc. They didn’t all work, but that’s not the point. They kept the packers guessing and that counts for a whole lot.

6. Yes BA was pass happy yesterday, but he also took what he got from the packer’s D. I wouldn’t always say that – but yesterday our running backs were not getting great push and our (much smarter than usual) passing game was.

To sum up, I hate BA as much as the next guy. I think his inability to coach Ben and his atrocious play calling to date, demand that we replace him. However, in his defense, he called a good game yesterday, and it’s a big part of why we were able to eke out a victory.

by SteelerBuddha on Dec 21, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I've said it before he is good

but man he can be so bad.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 21, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Number 4.

Lebeau has a history of dominating defenses of which this year’s appear to be an aberration. BA has a history of wide open offenses that sometimes totally dominate inferior defenses but often become so predictable as to be dominated by average to good defenses. BA called a good game. I agree that the Mewelde Moore pass was a thing of beauty. I’ve never seen a RB line up behind a WR like that, essentially designing a play where the WR is the lead blocker.

But, a few good games aren’t enough. He needs to go, for sure.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 21, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

that play to Moore

I don’t think I have ever seen that before. I re-watched it a handful of times on nfl.com. I really liked the design, but I also agree BA needs to go.

The question is what offense to run. Wolf do you remember what type of offensive Raider’s ran back when they had Jackson, Allen, and Gault in the early 90’s?

by SteelBuckeye on Dec 21, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Raiders in early 90s

I think Art Shell was HC, so they probably would have run a lot of standard NFL offense, with plent of two back sets and always a TE in. But beyond that, I couldn’t say for sure. I remember Mike Shanahan was HC before Shell, and he lasted about 6 weeks. I think when Shell came in they went back to run first and throw the bomb about 6-10 times a game, just like they did in the 70s.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 21, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Art Shell is not a very good coach

trust me. I was in one of his clinics and I realize he was just a stud as a player but he’s a dud as a coach. Coach Taylor (Hampton University) never brought him back to our camp after that one. lol

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't say he was

I think those offenses were very simplistic. They would only work well with overpowering OL-men (Bo Jackson didn’t hurt). When he came back a couple years ago, you’ll note he only lasted a year.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 22, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

I was rambling about Art….yes Bo made a huge difference by the way. Anyhow, these guys can do well in just about any offense. I just hate to see the backs we have not get many carries and never really get going.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

No problem

I didn’t mean to sound offended, just wrote the first thought that popped in my head. I agree about the offense. I think we now have the talent to do well in about any style. I guess if Brett Favre can flourish in a west coast offense, Ben can. There are definitely enough receiving threats with all of the WRs, Heath, Mendy and MeMo. Actually, I think this team has enough talent on both sides of the ball. You don’t rank in the top ten in both offense and defense without the necessary talent. That tells you that as much as anything that there need to be some shake-ups on the coaching staff.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 22, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Somewhere in all these dust play books play books a great idea got lost.

I have to agree Buddha. I was impressed at the variety of plays that BA called. I swore that all the running back screens and swing passes were thrown out with the all the plays that used a FB.

by SteelBuckeye on Dec 21, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What This Game Revealed

Wow, a lot of commentary. I tend to agree with Blitzbrugh, and while I was ready to condem Tomlin (mind you, I defended his decision to go for two against Jax in the playoffs) I understand him now.

This game revealed a lot. Click here to learn just what the Packers victory revealed about the Steelers.

by Hombre de Acero on Dec 21, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

About the offense # 6 I see your point but think it is debatable.
Agree on #’s 1 2 5. But to me that is just more evidence of how underacheiving the O has been with BA this year and underscores the need to lynch him out of Pa.

If we as fans, just from watching TV knew the right play calling stategies for our players, then how much more should BA have done these things (#1,2,5) throughout the whole season. Not game 14 & the second half @ Denver.

by steelerstyle on Dec 21, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

The Onsides Kick

The real question isn’t why Tomlin did it. Anyone that has watched this team’s D play in the 4th Q this year knows why he did it. The real question is why Ike Taylor was on the hands unit? That makes no sense at all. I guess we should just be glad that Ike finally caught a damn ball, even if it was the worst time to do it.

In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.

by Rob Parker on Dec 21, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

It wasn't a hands team.

Ike is usually on the kickoff team. I’m sure they did it in practice with the normal kick team and it worked so why change anything? Pluse if you put the hands team in it tips the receiving team off to something happening.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Why isn't everyone calling for Lebeau's head?

The D is definitely been a HUGE problem this season. But everyone wants to get rid of my boy Bruce and are ST guy.

I say Lebeau is a problem. If Carter and “No Play” Gay are the best we have, then its his fault for keeping such no talents on the team.

Of course Smith and Try being gone hav hurt, but if the other QB has more than 3 seconds to throw, our DB’s are done.

I say LEBEAU NEEDS TO GO!

by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Dec 21, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Lebeau is staying because...

He’s badass and has been for many many years. He’s not going anywhere until he decides to.

by Akmed on Dec 21, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Lebeau needs to make adjustments

…but my only beef with him is not adjusting coverages and schemes to suit our underwhelming DBs with Troy out. It may be that he did and hasn’t had much success with those guys. BA as OC has been suspect for three seasons now. Lebeau has kept the D fearsome for more than a few seasons (5+ at least). He’s worth more than just his legacy, I believe its hard to do better than him.

Not sure if this helps, but Gay led the team with 6 tackles…..

by Twell on Dec 21, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

When they throw at you 20 times a game

Six tackles is not an impressive stat. Gay had one of his worst games of the year, and that’s saying a heck of a lot considering how bad he has played this year.

by SteelerBuddha on Dec 21, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

...yeah

I figured it didn’t exactly represent a good preformance

by Twell on Dec 23, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Point taken

…that ran through my mind as I wrote it…

by Twell on Dec 23, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

his scheme isnt the problem

these guys are just slow, and can’t tackle. lebeau can stay forever for all I can. I can see if guys are out of position, but guys are in position to make plays and just don’t make them, thats the players, nor the coach.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 22, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Because he's not black

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be funny a black man named Arians

You’re obviously new around here to think I was serious.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Very late thoughts on the game, coaching and future

I, like many of you didn’t make a Herculean effort to watch the game yesterday. With the game not being broadcast here in the SF Bay Area, I was content to do some work around the house. Maybe catch the end of the game up at my dad’s house since I was going there late in the afternoon (he has the Sunday Ticket) or watch the highlights later.

Well, what the hell do you know. I get there and the game is in the last 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter. Couldn’t believe how long the game went but thought “Oh well, gotta watch it now that I’m sittin’ here…” The last quarter was a microcosm of the whole season, perhaps a miniaturized version of my entire history of watching the Steelers since the early 70s. These guys are just un-freaking-believable…. in every way. They make you cry out in disgust one minute, then have you crying with joy, relief and pride the next…. then they start the 4th Quarter!!

In Summary:
Ben Roethlisbungle was barely seen compared to the amount of time Big Ben Two Time SuperBowl Champion spent playing yesterday. As others stated – seems like last week was too early for him to come back from the concussion. He played as maddeningly and brilliantly as ever – 500 yards speaks for itself.

BA is still BA but he called a better game. Probably though, BB was calling and improvising much of the time. Unfortunately, he may have also saved his job, at least give Tomlin more to think about.

Tomlin is still an enigma. Not sure how good he really is. Reasons can be given for the onsides kick which justify the decision. “The Book” says you kick away, too much at risk while still in the lead. I am not up on all his interviews but I like that he owned the decision and lucky for him it’s easier to explain after winning. I am more amazed that he was placed in that position than I am at the call – how could you be relying on him to come up with the loose ball?? Amazing…. see below…

The Defense – what can you say. I heard Deion Sanders on NFL Network sum up what all of us have been thinking – “Boy, that is the worst Pittsburgh Steelers defense I have seen in a long time…”.

Ike Taylor – apparently his brain power is short-circuited along with his hand-eye coordination. The guy looks awesome once in a great while then makes bone-headed plays like that one. You absolutely can not touch the ball early – NEVER!! We teach this to grade schoolers playing football. He blew the play in the most critical situation of the game. His failure to execute should have cost them the game.

Love Wallace. He looks like the real deal. Sometimes you can just see it coming with a young player – compare him to Sweed. The guy is ready to explode.

The Ravens game is infinitely more interestng now, especially with the Jets and Dolphins losing. Not sure if Denver losing helps us when combined with the above… we need Cincy to win vs the Chiefs so as not to lose the division to Baltimore in week 17 yes??

I was glad to see the end of the game, especially sitting next to my son and my dad. Would be incredible to sneak into the playoffs and get Troy back as well. The latter may not be possible from what I have heard. Still, good win in and of itself. How insane is it that they have beaten so many good teams and lost to some of the worst. It does bring into relief how good or bad Oakland and Cleveland are at this point in the season. Not too many teams would want to play them now as compared to a month ago….

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Dec 21, 2009 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Since you didn't see the game, let me fill you in.......

Sorry you only saw the last play of the game. You missed the most important part of every close steeler win, the gifting of the final drive provided by the NFL officials to the Chosen Team. Missed Ben’s awful interception which ended the Steelers’ season on the 45 with a minute left? Wait just a second……there it is, the late flag, and yes the inevitable illegal contact call which is always called just when the Steelers need it most.
    Steelers fans don’t notice this obvious bias like other fans in the NFL, of course. Like the stolen Super Bowls against both the Seahawks (as written on ESPN and CNN/Si websites by beat writers the next day) and the Cardinals (the lost 3rd qtr. where every non converted Steeler 3rd down was followed by a bogus flag extending their drive,) yesterday’s official’s giftwrap has helped the Steelers alive. Don’t even talk about the stolen win from the Vikings this year after the phantom “tripping” call on the Vikes go ahead TD…….that would have already eliminated you

by rvnmaniak on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

I am glad you enjoyed the game!

I hope you experience it many more times in your life time. Merry Christmas!! and a Happy New year!

by SteelBuckeye on Dec 21, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess you think that wasn't illegal contact?

He hit the intended receiver. idiots.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, NFL rules suck but that was illegal

I am no defender of the NFL or it’s rules commitee, nor the officials. I hate many aspects of the NFL and how they have changed the game into a bastardized version of football. That said, the shot applied to Hines Ward was clearly past 5 yards, clearly it affected his ability to run downfield (he got knocked on his ass) and clearly occurred before the interception – it also probably occurred before the ball had been thrown.

I did in fact see the last 18:30 minutes of the game. It was a fortuitous penalty for the Steelers. How about the 2 or 3 holding calls at the end against the Steelers? Was that the NFL trying to help the Packers win?? One of those calls was very suspect, especially by NFL holding standards.

Sounds like rvnmaniak is getting nervous about the game??!! I wouldn’t be if I were him. Not compared to the last couple of meetings. The Ravens are on a roll and have a much better chance of beating the Steelers as opposed to last year.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Dec 22, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think no matter the rule

Ward got plowed over…. of course it was penalty. So I guess this guy thinks its ok for a LB to basically tackle a receiver before the ball is thrown? What an idoit (@rvnmaniak). Was the steelers lucky, sure but there is no conspiracy out there. I don’t want to watch a NFL game where that is legal.

As for the tripping call, that didn’t cost the vikes that game. An int returned for a td and a fumble returned for a td did. SMH I’m tried of ppl suplementing their teams inept play for bad calls of the refs, which it wasn’t a bad call everyone can see the Oline lift his leg and trip harrison, fact is refs don’t play. 9 times out of 10 if there is a call, the offense has plenty of chances to make up for it. But instead of looking at this you rather blame the refs. Why don’t you blame Chester Taylor for not catching an easy pass… why don’t you blame Farve for holding the ball too long? SMH The refs had nothing to do with that and that call surely didn’t cost that game. Heck it wouldn’t even had been close if mendy hall doesn’t fumble on the five.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 22, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

What can you say?

People like vnmaniak are going to be around…soooooo. Hey maybe we can invite an inpesticide.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I have not read all the preexistent comments, & I post.

My two cents, taking that risk.
Personally I think that Our Team is quite dangerous (even for us) because they tend to mirroring the team they are confronting, are better in most of the ways of the teams they are facing, if they play a worst team, they can be “worster” than them, if they play quality team they normally better than them. They even can “Unleash Hell” over our fanbase (thats quite funny those were the first thing I that had come into my mind after Tomlin’s comments).

O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.

by YeOldeMexFan on Dec 22, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

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