Sweed and Warren done for the year

by Bitfailu on Dec 21, 2009 8:26 PM EST

Self-explanatory, but here is my source:

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/2009/12/sweed-warren-done-for-year.html

I have heard Tyler Grisham has great hands and it looks like that will be put to the test.

If verified, I think this gives us a lot to talk about.

I think Sweed is going to be back on the squad next year, but Grisham has a chance to take his job. If Grisham performs, it would take a miracle for Sweed to earn another shot.

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Has Limas Sweed caught his last pass as a Steeler?

Yes. We have three great receivers and Sweed will face stiff competition for the fourth spot

16 votes

No. He has too much potential and the Steelers will make room for him

58 votes

I don't know. Did he catch a pass as a Steeler?

24 votes

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Steelers.com backed it up. It is set in stone

by Bitfailu on Dec 21, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions

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by WVPiratesfan on Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions

nice

by Bitfailu on Dec 21, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions

What did Sweed do is he even on the field long enough to get injuried

by WVPiratesfan on Dec 21, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions

he contracted an "undisclosed illness" after the browns game

he didnt practice all week. just wonder what it was since it was a “nonfootball related injury/illness”

by t1mmy10 on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions

So maybe that is why Ward played

and didn’t sit…

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions

Oh, just noticed you said after

Doh!

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by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions

He Was At The Penguin Game Last Week

He dropped the opening puck.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 21, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions

perfect.

LMAO!! Love it

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Dec 21, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions

CB

Why not bring Sweed back as a CB next year. Apparently being able to catch is not a requirement to be a CB for the Steelers… makes Sweed a prime candidate!!

by tawright on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

be like a Troy Brown type of guy, except Troy Brown was good

by WVPiratesfan on Dec 22, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions

you might be on to something there

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by SoCalSteelerFan on Dec 22, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions

Not sure if you were being serious or not, but it is a lot harder to play CB than WR. WR you know where you are going. CB you are guessing where he is going.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions

Farrior can't keep up with RB's in coverage...

We might as well turn him into a FB next year too.

I’m not completely dismissing the Sweed idea, it can be done. But how realistic is it? Remember, Troy Brown was a part time CB, he was still a WR too, which made him as valuable as he was (he wasn’t particularly great at either position at that point in his career). If you’re suggesting turning Sweed into a full time corner, I ask one simple question:

Can he cover a WR?

Sounds simple right? William Gay has been doing exactly that his whole life, how good is he at this level? It’s not that easy, in fact, it’s probably one of the most difficult tasks in the NFL. Now you take a guy who has not played corner since at least high school (I’m assuming he did it then, which he may not have), and ask him to cover NFL wide receivers. Maybe he can, it is possible. I have doubts though.

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 22, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions

Troy Brown was the guy who played for the Pats and did it, right? That was pretty impressive. I heard an interview from him on the ESPN: Football Today Podcast where he talked about that. Belicheat asked all the WRs if anyone wanted to try it and he was the only one to step up. He said he wanted to spend as much time as he could on the field. Respect.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions

Definite Respect...

And take a look at Mike Furrey in Cleveland, although I haven’t seen him play much WR, I’ve only noticed him on defense. Have to give props to any two way player now a days. Didn’t mean to slight Troy if I did.

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by NYSteelersFan4 on Dec 22, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

Sweed at CB is definitely intriguing

Imagine a 6’4", 230lb. CB!

We know he can and will hit. And he’s fast enough. It’d be worth the try if he was willing IMO.

Is this conjecture? Or has this been mentioned as a possibility?

And yeah: respect to TB. A+ for effort and team-first attitude.

by tobiathan on Dec 23, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions

That is exactly what i have been saying...

If he only caught a few balls a year, it would be two more interceptions than we had this year!!

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Dec 22, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions

Playing CB requires the player to have the shortest memory on the field. If you give up a catch you have to line up and go at it again and eliminate the opponent. If you give up a long play or TD you still have to turn around and line up again and make a play if the ball comes back to you. Sweed has shown he can’t shake dropping a few passes, so how do you expect him to shake off giving up a catch?

by redmik on Dec 24, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions

Does Hartwig know how to long snap?

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by Steel Spike on Dec 21, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions

it'd be pretty dumb to cut someone whose gonna count less than 1 mil against the cap next year

AND it’s only his SECOND season as a pro this year. they’ll give him at least one more year to try to get his stuff together. plus it’s pretty hard to grow when you only get on the field for a hand full of plays since he’s playing behind holmes, ward, and wallace (who is playing like a 3 year vet).

by t1mmy10 on Dec 22, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions

Rebuttal

It would be pretty dumb to cut Tyler Grisham if he makes some plays. Grisham won’t make that much money, either. I’m not done with Sweed, but Grisham doesn’t have to show a ton to secure the fourth spot. This fifth spot is Sweed’s.

Sweed made ONE catch this year and that was when he was the third receiver. When he comes back next year, it is quite possible that he will get fewer opportunities. If three of those opportunities bounce off his hands, then he has caught his last pass as a Steeler.

With his current funk, I think there is a 20 percent chance that those opportunities slip through his fingertips

by Bitfailu on Dec 22, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions

I would put all the money I have down that Sweed gets an equal shot to try out for the 4th spot with Grisham, regardless of what Tyler does with his opportunity. Sweed is a much bigger threat than Grisham because he is very fast for his height. Also, consider that Tyler’s 40 time was around 4.65 and Sweed’s was 4.5. Not that much different, but a 5’10 guy running a 4.65 is far less impressive than a 6’4 guy running a 4.5.

So what I am saying is there is no possibility that Grisham “locks up” the 4th WR spot before the preseason or even the season next year.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions

Aaron Kelly

Faster, taller, healthier, younger. The league is full of tall, fast receivers who don’t make plays.

by Bitfailu on Dec 22, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

But is the league full of tall, fast receivers

Who don’t get a chance to make plays? The guy has had maybe 15 passes thrown his way and dropped 4. Judging somebody on that small of a sample size is quite ludicrous.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions

Two very different types of receiver.

Grisham is classic slot, Sweed can get deep and leap.

I wonder what the undisclosed illness is?

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Dec 22, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions

Case of the drops?

"We just have to play better as a whole team." James Harrison

by LongTimeSteelersFan on Dec 22, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions

TheCommish said he heard a rumor about it being depression?

I was thinking Swine Flu…

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by John Stephens on Dec 22, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions

Depression would explain

Sweed’s inability to focus enough to make the catch in pressure situations. Especially if he was/is suffering from a previously undiagnosed condition. Maybe, given his struggles to date and his future potential, the FO advised Sweed to seek treatment and get whatever’s troubling under control.

If this is the case(and it seems to ring true IMO) we could see a vast improvement in Limas’ play, provided he gets things in order.

All conjecture, of course, but seems plausible given the evasive nature of Tomlin’s response to questions about it.

by tobiathan on Dec 23, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions

And he is the right age to begin to show symptoms (effects)

Most are diagnosed in their early 20s;
Could also be anxiety disorder – Zack Greinke had this a few years ago & now he is a Cy Young winner

For both of these, the Steelers are forbidden by law to disclose.

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by Sick Puppy on Dec 23, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly

and the pressures of transitioning from college hero to pro zero, the drop in the AFCCG, the media etc. could easily have brought on or exacerbated an underlying, undiagnosed mental illness or psychological disorder. He is absolutely at that age where symptons begin to manifest. And would be totally illegal for the team to disclose anything of that nature.

Since he was always said to be a hard worker with a good grasp of the offense and someone with no negative or criminal behavior in his past it would make sense that he might be dealing with something like this.

He seems like a good kid and a hard worker. Whatever it is he’s dealing with I hope him the best. With a little luck he’ll come back bigger, better, faster, stronger and more able to adapt to life as a pro.

One possible silver lining is that quite often madness is a symptom of genius; maybe our boy will return a superstar after this. I hope so.

by tobiathan on Dec 24, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions

I know what happened

Sweed went to Tomlin and said, “Coach I have no identity. Can you help me? Give me an identity that describes me and I will have something to shoot for.” So Tomlin “dropped” him from the roster.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Dec 22, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs