BTSC Weekly NFL Musings - Week 13 Edition
Another week in the 2009 NFL season almost in the books. For Steelers fans, tonight's game between the Baltimore Ravens and Green Bay Packers is quite important. I'm not quite sure how I feel about either of these two teams - they've both been fairly erratic all year. Both are dangerous though. I will say this - we'll learn a lot about Baltimore tonight. If they are able to go in to Lambeau Field and take down the surging Packers in front of an amped up MNF crowd, then I really like their chances to snag one of the final playoff spots in the AFC. Should be a good one.
On to some other thoughts and notes from this weekend's action.
Editor's note: I've included a few thoughts about Cincinnati that were not included in the initial post.
* Let's start in the AFC with a quick shout out to the Denver Broncos, Miami Dolphins and the Jacksonville Jaguars. All three Wild Card contenders won this week - Miami over New England, Denver over the rival Chiefs, and Jacksonville over the fading Texans. By winning their past two games, Denver seems to have ended their mid-season slide. We'll see though what they're really made of...i.e. if they're to be taken seriously as a threat to do anything in the playoffs...when they travel to Indianapolis and to Philadelphia in the next few weeks. Same goes for Jacksonville. They're in plenty solid shape for now, but they must host Miami and Indianapolis the next two weeks before traveling to New England to play a Patriots team that is still quite tough at home. As for Miami, hats off to them for continuing to battle hard each and every week. They hung around, hung around, hung around, then capitalized late to take down the visiting Pats. Next week's game against the Jaguars should be very, very interesting, not to mention incredibly critical for both teams. Steelers fans should be rooting for Miami next week.
* I got this email from Josh, who does a very nice job comandeering things at Cincy Jungle, SBNs Bengals blog. Here's what he wrote:
The Steelers have always been known for having a great rushing offense and a strong as hell defense. The Bengals took that model and ran with it -- they're fourth overall on defense with a first scoring defense. The Bengals rushing offense has rushed for over 100 yards or more in nine of their 12 games this year -- three different RBs have 100-yard games in the past three games.
However, we're not blowing teams out that we should beat. Like the Brownies or the Lions.
My question is simple. When Pittsburgh used that formula for so long, were fans upset that they didn't blow out lesser teams?
Couple thoughts about that very interesting inquiry. First of all, a bit of context. The Bengals continue to win behind an amazingly strong commitment to the running game on offense, solid game management and timely passing from veteran QB Carson Palmer, and most impressively, behind a defense that continues to play tough each week. On Sunday, Cincy took down the Detroit Lions, 23-13. Cedric Benson rushed for 110 yards on 36 carries. Carson Palmer threw two picks that helped keep the Lions in the game, but conversely, C. OchoCinco had 9 catches for 137 yards and 1 TD. Meanwhile, the Bengals defense picked off Matthew Stafford twice, sacked him three times, and pressured him countless others. (Yes, I still contend Stafford should have been shut down weeks ago, but certainly no later than after his putrid performance against the Packers on Thanksgiving. He's going to get killed out there playing hurt like that. Shut.him.down.).
Back to the Bengals. They're 4th in total yards allowed, 1st in scoring defense, 1st in 3rd Down percentage. They shorten games with their commitment to the run, and they have a quarterback who may not be quite as lethal as he once was, but is still nevertheless one of the five, six, or seven best quarterbacks in this league depending on who you ask. They're a team to be reckoned with, for sure. More on them from me soon actually.
* The Tennessee Titans miraculous run back in to contention comes to an end in Indianapolis on Sunday. Tip of the cap to them for what they've accomplished but as I suspected last week, the Titans had dug themselves too big a hole to start the year to be considered 'contenders' down the stretch. I'll be curious to see now if they're able to drum up the same enthusiasm and competitive spirit in their final four games now that it appears they're once more in too big a hole to dig their way out of. The Titans actually played fairly well against the Colts, and the game could have been different had Nate Washington not dropped a perfectly thrown bomb that was going to be a guaranteed touchdown. But it was also their inability to manufacture touchdowns when they breached the redzone cost them. Can't win against Peyton Manning this year when you have to settle for FGs.
* Wow, kind of like the Steelers, the Washington Redskins continue to find new and amazing ways to lose football games this year. Watch the highlights of their late meltdown against the undefeated Saints here if you haven't already seen them. Last week I wrote that I'd be surprised if they didn't take down either the Giants or the Cowboys down the stretch and subsequently hurt one of their respective playoff chances. I'm sticking by that - the 'Skins are still a very competent 3-9 team and a great value for quite some time now as frequent underdogs.
* Just might be the Saints year. If it's not the Steelers - which certainly appears to be the case - than my personal preference would be for them to win it all. We'll see though - they continue to show vulnerability on defense at times.
* What an impressive win by the Arizona Cardinals over Minnesota last night. I was impressed by just how well they played on both sides, but I wasn't all that surprised by the outcome. I thought Ken Whisenhunt would get them focused on the task at hand immediately following their loss to the Titans the previous week:
I trust Ken Whisenhunt & Co. to not implode in any way, shape, or form. But by losing that nailbiter in Nashville, the Cards suddenly have a smaller margin for error this next couple of weeks. We'll learn something about this Cardinals team this next two weeks. I like their chances to shut the door early and often on San Francisco, beginning with a statement win this coming weekend against the Minnesota Vikings.
Well, thanks to the 49ers losing a close one at Seattle, the Cards extended their lead out West back to 3 games. Congratulations to Whiz and Grimm for turning a once-hopeless franchise in to one of the more well-rounded and impressive teams in all of football. It helps to have Kurt Warner playing at a ridiculously high level these past two years...and to have some of the most electric and skilled playmakers in all of sports in Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin, but the work the coaching staff and player personnel department has done in Arizona has made that team far from a 'one-trick-pony.' Do not at all be surprised to see them back in the NFC Championship Game.
* So long Gary Kubiak. I actually feel the Texans have been wise not pulling the cord on him the past few years, but given the talent on their roster this year and the way they've been hanging touch most weeks only to collpase late in ballgames, I think he's probably earned himself a pinkslip out of his duties coaching the Texans. Mike Shanahan would be wise to take that gig over the Redskins job if you ask me. Clearly not the same level of prestige attached to the position, and perhaps the paydays will be a bit smaller, but their roster is in much better shape than is Washington's. Plus, in D.C., he'd be hamstrung by other entrenched front office folks. No, I'm not talking about Dan Snyder. He's actually learned to not meddle and to be more patient. It's Vinny Cerrato that's the problem there and he'd still want tight control over player personnel decisions, I'd guess. In Houston, Shanny would be granted much more control over building a program in his own vision.
* Stat of the week #1: Number of trips inside Carolina's redzone for Tampa Bay - 8.........Number of points scored by Tampa on those 8 trips: 6.
* Stat of the week #2: By throwing a TD pass Sunday in the Colts win over the Titans, make it 12 straight seasons that P. Manning has thrown at least 25 TD passes. Grrr, hate having to acknowledge his greatness, but that's pretty absurd.
* Quick thought to conclude about Rex Ryan of the Jets calling out Mark Sanchez for not sliding in the 2nd half of their win over Buffalo last Thursday. Ryan's point was essentially this: the team has invested so heavily in him and believes so much in his ability to take them to great places for many years, that he has to do a better job of knowing when and how to protect himself out there in this mind bogglingly violent game. Remember, Ryan even had brought in Joe Girardi to help Sanchez learn how to slide.
Anyway, as it relates to the Steelers - I've heard it a million times on here that people think it's impossible for competitors like Big Ben or Troy Polamalu to play a bit more intelligently in terms of protecting their bodies. Well, Rex Ryan - a total 'football guy' from one of the league's great football families - disagrees. I do too. I think Big Ben in particular has to learn how to avoid taking some of the hits that he does each week if he is interested in accomplishing the future goals I know he still has for himself.
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hehe
ABsolutely love that rant. Not as much as Singletary’s from last year, but definitely a gem.
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by Michael Bean on Dec 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
This
Has to be me all time favorite rant………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKIcnj1MJY
I love how he goes off, then simply walks away. Classic!
by dragonhawk26 on Dec 8, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Temporary Saints fan :)
That’s alright. Why don’t we adopt the Saints for the rest of the season. Blitz already loves the QB, so it shouldn’t be hard. ;)
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
sinner
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Dec 8, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
i'm not rooting for the saints until we're mathematically eliminated
they have weaknesses, but I don’t think there’s any way our secondary could hang against them without some serious rejuvenation…
Absolutely agree on Ben and Troy protecting themselves better.
Ben’s a stud, but he’s just asking to wake up in the middle of next week, with the way he runs the ball. In Troy’s case, he seems to think his body is a freakin’ guided missile. That’s the main reason why we haven’t had him in the lineup consistently for some big chunks of recent seasons.
Troy's injury this year
…had nothing to do with his style of play. Fat man in Tennessee fell on Troy’s knee while Troy was trying to recover a loose ball. And my memory says he has played entire seasons with his style of play. Let’s see…
2003 16 games albeit not as a starter
2004 16 games
2005 16 games
2006 13 games
2007 11 games
2008 16 games
2009 freak injury that had nothing to do with his style of play.
Let the guy play his style, he will not be nearly as effective protecting himself.
Now Ben. He is just asking for trouble by going head first into tackles.
"More than 70 percent of putts left short do not go in."
I believe his ...
style of play did contribute to his injury. Had he dove in to cover the ball vice step in to pick it up and run, then most likely no injury. But I could be wrong, that play was so many years ago already.
Troy’s injury was flukey and it’s one reason I’m ambivalent about using top line players on special teams. However, I have to remind myself that he was injured on a BLOCKED FGA in a game that went to OT, and it was blocked by Aaron Smith, for whom you could make the same argument.
You’re right that this injury could have happened in any phase of the game. Troy was just giving effort until the whistle.
Ben on the other hand takes chances with both the ball and his body. There’s risk and reward, but sometimes its OK to throw it away and play for the next down, or run for the short yards available. He almost always goes after the extra yardage, and sometimes it’s not there, or the protection can’t hold that long.
by chicos_pants on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
True about this year's injury but Troy still tends to knock himself out of games.
He reminds me of the Colts Bob Sanders who also is frequently sidelined. If Troy just keeps “palying his game,” he’s gonna be spending a lot more time in street clothes.
Moves Can't Hurt A Thing
Good for you Mike Tomlin. At least you do seems to be concerned about something after all. Now only if you can get this team to return to the basics of the game. The basics are tackling, catching the ball and, stopping the opposing team from scoring. most likely thats easier said than done.
Re: Ben
Totally agree with you Blitz. Ben has to learn to avoid the punishment. I think it’s very hard for the guy to get rid of the ball because his ability to make guys miss. It would be amazing do see him play with greater situational awareness though. And I sound like a broken record but this is on Arians as well. Our offense is extremely vertical and does not seem to have a safety valve built in to it. I remain eternally puzzled by that.
step one
baltimore lost tonight. step one, check.
this means that we no longer need to watch what they do. if we win out we surpass baltimore regardless.
step 2 of several more will be thursday
by SteelCityMafiaNewOrleans on Dec 8, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions
Whiz and Grimm = Steelers
at least that what’s Collingsworth kept saying during the AZ – Minn game…he kept saying “classic Steeler football” after a good run or def play.
It was like he wanted to say good things about the Steelers, and those guys wearing black and gold weren’t doing it, might as well be these guys in red and white
this bud's for you

you know you had this coming after y’all’s celebrating in the game thread on Sunday, right? :)
Kubiak for OC?
so i may get shot for suggesting this, but… kubiak for OC?
my opinion in brief: an excellent OC during his tenure with the broncos, and a not-so-good head coach. hard to tease out how he would function as an OC without shanahan, but interesting to contemplate.
we’ve seen lots of ousted HCs rediscover some level of success as coordinators — cameron (ravens), nolan (broncos), and ahem lebeau. kubiak?
i wouldnt mind that
On first thought, at least.
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I'd like that
He ran a well balanced offense with Shanahan at Denver. They really got the absolute best out of Elway. Much better than Dan Reeves ever did.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
Manning
I have to say that I like Peyton. He’s like the anti-Brady. Brady’s basically a male model playing football, while Manning is kind of like a good ol’ boy.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2009 8:19 AM EST reply actions
He's OK
Off the field, seems like a great guy and a terrific ambassador for the game. On the field, great passer but I’m just not a fan of the way the Colts play offense. I can’t say it hasn’t worked for them so far this year, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they disintegrated in the playoffs again.
As for Brady, eewww. He’s like the Stepford QB. Too perfect until something in the program does not compute and then he shuts down.
LOL, Stepford QB
Yeah, that sounds about right. :)
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cinci
=paper tigers come playoffs time. Are they better than the Steelers or Ravens this year? Certainly – but (1) that’s not saying much, and (2) not by much. Take a look at who they’ve played so far this year. The only team with a winning record that they’ve beat is GB, and that was back in week 2, when the Packers didn’t have their act together. They’ve lost to Houston and the Raiders (yes, I know, but we don’t have realistic playoff aspirations), and darn near (should have) lost to Cleveland once. Does this really sound like a championship team to anyone? If they go into win either of their next two games at Minn or SD, I’ll give them a little more credit.
by SteelerFanInPatsieLand on Dec 8, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions
At Least the Ravens suck too
And that’s all I have to say. Makes me feel better just thinking about it :-)
Yeah, I’ve been thinking lately that a 6-6 record right now is easier for me to take since they won another Lombardi last year. I think it would be very tough coming off of an AFCC loss.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
30% of
the people out there who voted in the poll believe the Steelers will still make the playoffs? Oh my god, talk about misplaced optimism, too damn funny! WHO DEY!
And pray tell how far you think your Bungles are going this year?
by SteelerFanInPatsieLand on Dec 8, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions
Thinking about us and Arizona
“Pittsburgh of the west” as we at BTSC say.
Two “curses” that were supposed to happen to them ended up happening to us: The Super Bowl hangover and the Madden Curse.
Funny how at the beginning of the season all the talk was about how Arizona was going to have the “Super Bowl Hangover” and miss the playoffs. A fate that had occured almost every year to the teams that lost in the Super Bowl. Didn’t happen to them, instead happened to us. Although we’re still in it to make the playoffs, our season so far has been the definition of Super Bowl hangover.
Two players were on this years Madden, the curse just so happened to occur to our beloved team instead of theirs.
Disagree about the Bungles
They might have some good stats and their defense is definitely improved, but these guys simply were born to lose. Their front office is notoriously dysfunctional and history shows that they consistently suck at critical times in tight games, pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. If they somehow win it all this year, then I’ll know that the NFL has truly entered the Twilight Zone.
dont let the past sway too much of your interpretation of the present
Things and people change. Fact is, the Bengals have fewer off the field problems this year than the Steelers; they took a shot on a guy who got a bad rapt and hit a homerun with the signing (Benson), they have shutdown corners at both CB positions; and their O Line is legit.
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