Who Are The Steelers 'Glue Guys?'
First, if you have the patience, read this article by Michael Lewis from this past weekend in the New York Times Sunday Magazine. You may or may not be a fan of professional basketball - for many of you, my guess would be no. But I presume that many of you read either the abridged (read this for sure if you have not!!) or full version (then go buy the book) of his story about likely 2009 NFL 1st Round Draft Pick Michael Oher in his book titled The Blind Side. And my guess is if you did you liked it.
If you have not read it, perhaps it makes more sense why Michael Oher's name seems to come up more than others when NFL fans kibbitz and project ahead to this year's draft. The reason is because he became a household name for many football and sports fans when Michael Lewis used him as a centerpiece case study for his overarching theme about the historical trend of NFL Offensive Tackles being viewed as the second most important commodity on an offensive roster - behind of course the asset that OL are supposed to protect, the Quarterback.
So if you liked Lewis' unique knack for poignant story telling and his commendable analysis and understanding of the world of sports, take some time to at least some of his latest article, even if you hate basketball. The subject of his latest work - Houston Rockets SF Shane Battier. Unlike so many of the 300 or so NBA athletes in the league at any given point, Battier can not jump through the roof; he's not lightning fast; hell; he's not really even able to create his own shot off the dribble - he instead has to rely on getting open looks off the penetration and passing of others. Despite not possessing the demonstrable athletic gifts of his peers, Battier has been highly acclaimed for his ability to defend some of the league's best scorers. But his value goes way beyond that and that's essentially the story that Lewis is trying to shed light on in his feature story of Battier and the Houston Rockets front office. Rockets GM Daryl Morey is leading a behind the scenes and largely unnoticed revolution in the game of basketball that's attempting to better understand individuals' value to team success on a more information rich level than can be provided by the naked eye.
The enjoyment of the article really though is Lewis's ability to again tell a great story in Shane Battier first and foremost from a personal and human perspective.
Here's a few of the introductory paragraphs:
Early on, Hoop Scoop magazine named Shane Battier the fourth-best seventh grader in the United States. When he graduated from Detroit Country Day School in 1997, he received the Naismith Award as the best high-school basketball player in the nation. When he graduated from Duke in 2001, where he won a record-tying 131 college-basketball games, including that year’s N.C.A.A. championship, he received another Naismith Award as the best college basketball player in the nation. He was drafted in the first round by the woeful Memphis Grizzlies, not just a bad basketball team but the one with the worst winning percentage in N.B.A. history — whereupon he was almost instantly dismissed, even by his own franchise, as a lesser talent. The year after Battier joined the Grizzlies, the team’s general manager was fired and the N.B.A. legend Jerry West, a k a the Logo because his silhouette is the official emblem of the N.B.A., took over the team. “From the minute Jerry West got there he was trying to trade me,” Battier says. If West didn’t have any takers, it was in part because Battier seemed limited: most of the other players on the court, and some of the players on the bench, too, were more obviously gifted than he is. “He’s, at best, a marginal N.B.A. athlete,” Morey says.
The Grizzlies went from 23-59 in Battier’s rookie year to 50-32 in his third year, when they made the N.B.A. playoffs, as they did in each of his final three seasons with the team. Before the 2006-7 season, Battier was traded to the Houston Rockets, who had just finished 34-48. In his first season with the Rockets, they finished 52-30, and then, last year, went 55-27 — including one stretch of 22 wins in a row. Only the 1971-2 Los Angeles Lakers have won more games consecutively in the N.B.A. And because of injuries, the Rockets played 11 of those 22 games without their two acknowledged stars, Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming, on the court at the same time; the Rockets player who spent the most time actually playing for the Rockets during the streak was Shane Battier. This year Battier, recovering from off-season surgery to remove bone spurs from an ankle, has played in just over half of the Rockets’ games. That has only highlighted his importance. “This year,” Morey says, “we have been a championship team with him and a bubble playoff team without him.”
Here we have a basketball mystery: a player is widely regarded inside the N.B.A. as, at best, a replaceable cog in a machine driven by superstars. And yet every team he has ever played on has acquired some magical ability to win.
Solving the mystery is somewhere near the heart of Daryl Morey’s job. In 2005, the Houston Rockets’ owner, Leslie Alexander, decided to hire new management for his losing team and went looking specifically for someone willing to rethink the game. “We now have all this data,” Alexander told me. “And we have computers that can analyze that data. And I wanted to use that data in a progressive way. When I hired Daryl, it was because I wanted somebody that was doing more than just looking at players in the normal way. I mean, I’m not even sure we’re playing the game the right way.”
The virus that infected professional baseball in the 1990s, the use of statistics to find new and better ways to value players and strategies, has found its way into every major sport. Not just basketball and football, but also soccer and cricket and rugby and, for all I know, snooker and darts — each one now supports a subculture of smart people who view it not just as a game to be played but as a problem to be solved.
I encourage you to read on, but even at that point, that's enough information for me to ask my question that brings back the Pittsburgh Steelers. First though, we're not trying to be sabermetricians or mathematicians here on BTSC. We use what numbers we can to support what we see and feel as fans. Hell, I think we all generally agree that Football Outsiders' metrics, while useful to some degree and certainly unique and pioneering, only really confirm what we already know - Peyton Manning's good; so is Heath Miller; Adiran Peterson's ridiculous, etc etc.
So without the 'metrics' to back it up, who are some of the guys who help the Steelers win games, perhaps more often than not in ways that don't show up in the box score? For older readers, who are some of the former Steelers who embodied these characteristics? I'd imagine back then when there was less statistical accumulation on offense, certain players really didn't have their true impact on the game measured by the old records and box scores.
Since football is played by at minimum 11 guys at a time rather than just 5, I'd contend that 'chemistry' matters even more in football than in basketball, so based on what little we know of what goes on off the field, throw in some guys whose presence around a team might some who quantifiably translate into on-field success if someone with a slide rule tried hard enough? Who are our glue guys, past and present?
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The Rooneys
This is why the Steelers have been very successful in the past 38 seasons (I know, some low points in the 80’s, but still not bad). Their “glue guys” are at the top so they stay for decades, unlike glue players who have at most fifteen years with a team. Players want to play for the Rooneys which means there is a commitment to the organization and success through turnovers in players, coaches, and even millenia.
I know, that’s almost a cop out answer. If I had to pick a player it’s Aaron Smith.
Good cross-sport food for thought, Blitz.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Feb 18, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Great call
Once Dan started running the day to day operations, the Steelers started winning.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 20, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
Agree with your call about the Rooneys.
I added a line or two in the end to ask for some examples of older players from different teams and eras to hopefully liven it up. There’s only so may candidates on our current roster, but as I mentioned in my addition, I’d imagine when the game had less statistical accumulation, there were guys who really fit this bill
Hines Ward and Aaron Smith
The offense and defense would both crumble without these guys.
DPOY and special teams ace....
James Harrison was a glue guy even before he was a superstar on defense.
And guys like Keyaron Fox and Patrick Bailey have the potential to become glue guys.
The great teams have solid special teams – and the teams that fall short have bad special teams (remember???). So a good place to start looking is on those special teams….the special teams stars who either start on O or D – or play in special packages are often unsing heroes who are the glue that hold a team together.
And I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS THREAD, because the Steelers have so much glue, while the Redskins (I live in DC) overspend on free agents, trade away draft choices, and have no depth and no glue.
You need bricks to build a house. But if you forget the mortar, your house isn’t gonna be worth a damn.
Good point
I really like this statement:
You need bricks to build a house. But if you forget the mortar, your house isn’t gonna be worth a damn.
Best example of that brick concept is T.O. — The Eagles spent lots of money on him and made it to the Super Bowl, but couldn’t finish the job. He goes to the Cowgirls and they have yet to play “December football.” He is acid, just dissolving even the smallest amount of glue that a team possesses.
"That's why they play the game."
3 sets for 3 eras
for this current incarnation of the steelers, i agree with the pick of aaron smith. he and heath miller seem to mirror one another in terms of what they contribute to the offense and the defense and in how they go about it in relative anonymity.
for the bettis era, i’ll go with the tim lester/dan krieder fullback combo. those steelers won with their punishing run game, at the center of which was always the fullback. the bruce arians O doesn’t rely on it so much, but that old ron erhardt scheme needed battering rams like lester and krieder. true to the nature of the job, they sacrificed themselves for the good of the team. i’m sure bus would agree.
finally, for the super bowl teams of the 70s, i’ll pick mike wagner. i remember watching an interview with mel blount once where mel said mike wagner was the smartest football player he’d ever played with. not so physically gifted, but always quarterbacking, always anticipating. on the NFL Network’s “America’s Game” segment about the 1975 Steelers, I remember Wagner talking about his crucial interception off of Staubach in the Super Bowl. It came in the 3rd or 4th quarter and he jumped the crossing route, he said, because he remembered that they’d run that same formation one other time early in the first half and he recalled exactly what routes had accompanied it. That’s impressive…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Feb 18, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Nice pick of Wagner
He was such a solid, smart player on those teams.
Football is a hard sport to pick those “glue guys”. They are difficult to single out when you have a successful team because almost everyone has “sticky” hands thanks to an environment created by the head coach. We’re so fortunate to have had three “super glue” head coaches who in the first two cases outlasted ALL the players they started with, and in the third case probably will too.
For the 70s, guys that seemed to hold things together were Wagner, Andy Russell, Ray Mansfield, Rocky Bleier; in the tough 80s, Webster, Tunch Ilkin, Donnie Shell, Gary Dunn; in the 90s, Dawson, Lake, Kirkland and even Justin Strzelczyk who hung around for a decade because he was a team player; in this decade, Kreider, Aaron Smith, Farrior and Hines, perhaps the best “glue” guy in Steelers history.
by steeler.lifer on Feb 18, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
the Rooneys is pretty obvious, and Mike Wagner is a very good selection, but I also take Chuck Noll, "Mean" Joe Green, Franco Harris, and Rocky Bleier.
Noll translates those caring attitude of “The Boss” for his team into something that should be a tangible presence on the field, the first thing that he told to his “troops” was almost all of you people are really “stinking” bad ones and will not make the team, even he went after Andy Russell ´cause he was wo technique and very aggresive, at the time Russell were amonst the best in that league. He just keep something like six of all those guys. And changes that whinners attitude into winners and “took the hardware” into the Pittsburgh shelves.
In this environment comes something that help alot the team first they got “The Three Rivers Stadium” they were formerly in as some of them told “almost an open field before”, and after been an alltime loosers Dan Rooney gives them a Championship Caliber Stadium, they feel in debt with him.
In this stage comes “The Immaculate Reception”, that catch that Dan Rooney didn´t see ¨cause he was going downstairs to supports his guys in that great (loosing) effort, he finds himself that the loosers finally had do something at that could offer to HIM.
Green because first, he translates his anger ´cause the Steelers always were a loosing team, and he always dreamed to be in a winning team and he by example even outside those so wide open beating rules he was all over them and all over the field, he calm down those crazy against Bradshaw crowds, and lead by example again supporting “the Blond Bomber” when he was almost finished, taking care of Bradshaw when he played trough physical, emotional and psychological pain.
Harris was very down to hearth kind of guy, but he also takes his attitude into the teams spirit and calm them down also by example, mostly he help t O to give some running game to develop the pass for Bradshaw.
And last but not least Bleier, who happened that accident in Vietnam that all those physicians told him “you will even not walk again” he was by Himself an example of work ethic and life.
In more recent times Kevin Green, Greg Lloyd, Coach Cowher, Ward, Polamalu, BB, and Coach Tomlin. Mostly by his attitude and supportive presence to all in the team, that comes originally from The Boss.
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Actually, it was Art Rooney, Sr who didn't see the Immaculate Reception...
He was on the elevator – along with Bob Prince and Phil the Elevator Operator. Mr Rooney decided to go downstairs to congratulate this team, and didn’t want to get in the way of the media reporters, so he left his box right before the play.
The elevator actually went up from the fourth level to the fifth level…and then back down to four. During that time, the play happened, and a reporter – having just seen the play – ran to the elevator and told Mr Rooney what happened. Mr Rooney had an unlit cigar in his mouth, he smiled, and said something like, “well, I’ll be,” or something like that.
The 24-year old radio reporter lacked the presence of mind to turn on his SONY TC-100 tape recorder to get the Chief’s reaction, because he was in a hurry to interview Franco Harris and get a sound bite for a 406pm radio sports show. To this day, he regrets not interviewing Mr Rooney, but he DID get his soundbite from Franco — still on the sidelines — during the endless argument over whether the play would stand. And he got back up to the press box to feed it in time to lead the 4pm ABC Radio newscast as well as the 406pm “World of Sports” with Lou Boda.
What Bob Prince was doing on the elevator is lost to history, but it should be noted that the Gunner was “in the House” but missed the two greatest moments in Pittsburgh sports history. He was in the Priates’ locker room and missed Maz’ homer…interviewed Maz and didn’t even know he had hit the winning homer….and he was in the elevator for the Immaculate Reception.
By the by, the poster personally recalls that day, and is referring to himself in the third person in this post.
Great post blitz
I read the article over the weekend and thought about posting it, but have been to busy working on other stuff.
Some quick thoughts. First, while it’s tempting to look for the comparison matrix, one thing we should remember is that just as baseball is different from basketball (baseball is essentially and individual sport) football is also somewhat different. The biggest difference that occurs to me is that in football guys have very specific roles – both in the big picture and on given play. In basketball a guy has much more flexibility deciding which role he is going to play.
Having said that I think Ward has certainly functioned as a glue player. He is a football player first and receiver second, which I think changes the entire tone of Pittsburgh’s offense. Somebody mentioned Krieder and I would have to agree. That guy definitely made other everyone around him play better. On the defensive side I am going to vote for my adopted Steeler of the year Ryan Clark. I think the guy has been the quiet glue that allows our linebackers and Troy to gather the glory, with relative peace of mind.
On special teams I think Keryon Fox was a glue player this season. Our special teams improved quite a bit year over year and I think he was one of the biggest reasons why. I really hope he is re-signed this offseason for a few years.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 18, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions
If I may
I will give my offensive and defensive “glue” players (two on each). On defense Ryan Clark and Aaron Smith. In 2007 they were sorely missed. On offense I’d say Hines and Heath Miller. Hines makes this team that much better by just being on the field. His presence opened a lot of things in the Super Bowl that wouldn’t have been there if he wasn’t there. Heath Miller is steady. He contributes in a sort of ying and yang sort of way with Hines (no pun intended). Hines more receiving contributions but makes crucial blocks, Heath more blocking contributions but makes crucial catches.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
One criteria of being a glue guy
is that you tend to be noticed more when you are not in the game than you are when you are in.
In the sense James Harrison used to be a glue guy, now he’s just The Guy. I agree with those who name Aaron Smith and Ryan Clark on defense. I would add Casey Hampton and particularly Deshea Townsend. One of the great glue guys on offense in recent years would be Jeff Hartings. Dan Krieder was pretty good too. Funny how bad the team got when they got rid of Chidi and Sean on ST. And how they got better again with the addition of Fox, Bailey and Madison. Tight ends are usually underappreciated so I can go along with Heath. And Hines is a special category since WRs are usually the anti-glue. But he sets a tone that is usually misunderstood and underappreciated.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Feb 18, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions
Clark
Clark is as good an answer as anyone else. I always come back to what Troy used to say about Chris Hope. Hope’s conservative play was what allowed Troy to run amuck. Clark isn’t the ballhawk that Hope was, but he still takes care of the backfield. Clark reminds me of the hammer in a game of whack-a-mole. I’m not talking about his bone-breaker hits. I mean the way he darts back and forth always threatening to disrupt a play. He’s got a good sense of just how far off he can play yet still make a QB nervous.
I have to give another shout out to Farrior. Knowing that Farrior is there in the middle, allows the rest of the defense to do whatever they need to do.
I disagree with Heath. Heath should be a glue guy, but he isn’t. He’s got the reliability I like in Farrior, but he simply isn’t used often enough. I don’t think he makes the lineman next to him any better. I do think he make Ben look better in his receiving role, but he’s under-utilized in that capacity.
Whack-a-mole
Are you calling McGahee and Welker moles?
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
Nope
I’m not talking about his bone-breaker hits. I mean the way he darts back and forth always threatening to disrupt a play. He’s got a good sense of just how far off he can play yet still make a QB nervous.
I started paying more attention to Clark when McFadden got injured. Unfortunately the camera almost never pans back far enough to see him working in space, but he does a good job of lurking. He’s not committing 100% to covering a single receiver, he’s trying to cover the route of more than one. He is often close enough to make the QB hesitant to make a throw, but not so close he is actually double-teaming with another defender.
Clark gets credit for playing the boomstick, but I think he’s under-rated in terms of his ability to play pass coverage. He makes it easier for guys like Taylor and McFadden to play tight, which is, IMO, an essential ingredient for a glue guy.
Leader
When you talk about a “glue guy” you have to be talking about someone who leads, whether they’re a star or not. One guy I’m surprised no one has mentioned is Jerome Bettis.
While we all know he was a great back, he actually took pay cuts and reduced rolls to stay on the team and lead as a player. He inspired the men around him and it’s no coincidence that the year he told his team mates that he was going to retire, they took him to the Super Bowl.
His influence is still felt in the locker room and on the field. Whenever Hines jumps up from a big hit with a smile on his face that says “that didn’t hurt” and jogs back to the huddle, that’s a little bit of what Bettis taught him. The idea of running a guy over and that huge stiff-arm is a little of what you might see in Willie Parker that was taught by the Bus. The confidence he gave Ben and the grim determination to “get it done” won us XLIII.
If Jerome had cried about playing time and money, all the while bringing our rookie QB’s inexperience and interceptions… we’d be a very different team today.
Really Bettis was something very special, he all t time supported anybody that may need even a little push...
that also make bigger BB only “Immaculate tackle”, that make that our XL season, and stop Bettis mishap, remember Jackie Smith.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Feb 19, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Gluey
I think it is harder to identify “glue guys” on football teams than b-ball, simply because of the roster size. In the NFL you need quite a few glue guys, and glue backups to fill in for them too.
in the NBA, you can live with a few, or even just one or two.
But the size of that so big roster makes more difficult and definitive coach´s participation, so it helps allot
having somebody like LeBeau having almost a parental attitude.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Feb 19, 2009 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
We know who the glue guys aren't
It’s not Ike or Sweed. Nothing sticks to them. Just kidding.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
My conclusion
Having read over these comments and thinking about the way that Dan and Art II have done things recently, I would have to say that the Steelers are full of “glue” guys. That’s why they were able to go 15-1 in 2004 with a handful of minor to major injuries on both sides of the ball. I can’t think of any better explanation as to how the team has been able to have so much success since 1970. Even in the 80s and 90s, when we had no star QB, they still had decades that some teams would hope for. The other reason that I think this is that in the past, I’ve seen teams with players that had mediocre stats but always seemed to make plays when needed. For example, the Bills had Don Beebe, the Pats* had Troy Brown, the Cowboys had Jay Novacek, and the Giants in the late 80s had Dave Meggett. The Steelers right now have Washington, Heath, Hines, Spaeth (sometimes), Deshea, Timmons, Mewelde, etc. This year’s team had its stars, mainly Harrison, Woodley and Troy, but so many games this year turned on great plays from one player or another, it would be hard to point to just one.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 20, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions

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