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Potential Pittsburgh Steelers Offensive Line Prospects

Bumped. Good, thorough stuff here from one of our junior members. Thanks much. Edited just slightly, with photos inserted myself. -Blitz-

Ok so this is probably going to be my most involved scouting post as there are so many options at OL. I'm gonna select a group that I think are our most realistic options.

I'm excluding Alex Mack, due to the fact I've already made a detailed post on him.

Here are some recent highlights of the 2008 season that were not part of that original post.

Let's start with a guy with a great football name. One John Madden would truly appreciate and love to say multiple times during a telecast: Duke Robinson, OL, Oklahoma:

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Aside Alex Mack, this is the guy that is seen as the Steeler's most likely first round pick. Standing at 6'5'', 330 lbs, Robinson is well suited for offensive guard but has shown the ability to be moved outside and play tackle as well making him versatile and durable. Robinson is said to be a great drive-blocker with a natural ability to get great leverage on a defender. He has the ability to win the battle up front and pancake defenders, and at the same time has above average pass blocking.

The few negatives are that he can be inconsistent in second-level blocking, he's not the fastest lineman in pass protection, and that he can, at times, struggle adjusting in pass protection.

IMO, Robinson could be a great fit in Black and Gold. The problem is, is that the Gaurd position is filled at the moment with Stapleton and Kemoeatu, and there is a reason he's primarily a guard. If he could beat out the Stapler, which is a distinct possibility, then he could make a major splash if picked.

Highlights from 2008 

Next Up, Max Unger, OL, Oregon:

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Another possible selection, Unger may be one of the most versatile linemen out there having played Tackle and Center in his collegiate career. He does just about everything right when it comes to fundamental pass blocking. He recognizes the blitz and consistently picks them up, has decent speed and is able to keep with LB's Create FanPost: SB Nation and safeties. He's able to block from proper feet position and the correct angles to be effective in deterring pass rushers.Shows good leadership and character on and off the field.

On the opposite side, Unger does not possess great run blocking ability, a skill that is necessary to improve. His drive-blocking in particular needs to a priority.

For Unger, there are a lot of positives but unless he proves to the front office that he can be a solid run blocker, I'm not sure if he would make the best fit for our O-Line...Is there such a thing as designated pass blocker?

Seems to be the only highlights I can find.

Herman Johnson, OG, LSU:

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The big boy out of LSU towers at 6'7" and 360 lbs. A credit to him for dropping over 20 lbs in preparation for the combine. There are many positives to Johnson's game. First and maybe most importantly, he can play with good leverage, which is key due to his large height. If he can't bring this to the NFL then he'll have a hard time getting off the ground. Johnson can play with a good drive, and jolts defenders off the line. His long arms are a bonus in pass protection. Is durable.

Negatively Johnson does have some legitimate concerns. At times at LSU he has registered over 400 lbs, yikes. Despite being a solid pass blocker, Johnson can get sloppy fundementally.

Personally I could see "The House" being a second round pick, but with the new contract with Kemo, I'm not sure if the Steelers will draft an OG this early. The Stapler looked good this past season, so I think that at this point Johnson would be a surprise pick but a pleasant surprise.

2008 Highlights

A post-game interview

 

Johnathan Luigs, C, Arkansas:

Luigs, another center, had a great combine which can only help his draft status. Running a 5.14, the 5th fastest 40 time at the draft for offensive linemen. Luigs also excelled at the vertical tying for the 7th highest among OL's with 31 inches. So it's safe to say that even at 6'4'', Luigs is one athletic dude. On top of that he has an impressive ability to combine his speed, size, and footwork to make blocks while in motion and into the second level. Another top quality is his ability to adjust to the blitz effectively.

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With any player, there is always a downside. With Luigs there aren't to many, but he can be beaten by bigger defenders, and tends to rely too much on his speed than strength. Once he does make the second level, he does have trouble making consistent blockers.

A guy who could be available for a great value, in my book I have Luigs as a possible late day 1, early to mid day 2 pick. Don't cite me on that but that's my guess. If we don't end up with Alex Mack this guy may very well be the next best thing. His pro day workout will provide us with more insight.

Some Luigs and Arkansas Highlights against Florida 2008

 

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Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
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Eben Britton is an interesting talent. Projected to be a first rounder-early second rounder, Britton has the size, but does he have the talent? At 6'6", 309 lbs, Britton plays physical football, pancaking defenders, and ultimately showing an ability to have consistent control on an opposing defender. He shows good run blocking and solid pass protection. Britton also did well at the combine running a 5.16, the 8th best time among all offensive linemen. Can bring leadership to the

Negatively there are a lot of questions surrounding Britton's consistency while protecting the quarterback. He has a tendency to allow defenders to beat him physically. Despite a good forty time, Britton doesn't have the top end foot speed which can be problematic when performing at the top level.

If the Steelers think he is worth the risk they may take a shot at Britton in the first round, but they may want to consider taking someone with a more solid arsenal of skills; Duke Robinson or Tyson Jackson.

Lyndon Murtha, OT, Nebraska:

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When you talk about an impressive combine, there may not be one more impressive than that which Lyndon Murtha turned in last weekend. Murtha was the number 1 OL prospect in the 40 yard dash, running a 4.89, the second best OL prospect in the  vertical reaching 35", number 5 in the broad jump with 9'2'', number 1 in the three cone drill (7.06 seconds), and number 1 in the 20 yard shuffle (4.34 seconds). Damn, I know combine numbers aren't everything but wow. The kid  was definitely on every GM's "Wow" list after that. So aside all the combine hype, Murtha actually has other traits as well. Has the ideal "6'7'' frame for right tackle and weighs in at 310 lbs. Murtha shows very good skills in breaking up outside pass rushers while a the same time, finishes his blocks till the whistle blows. Decent 2nd level blocker.

Needs to get better at the cut block as this is a weakness in his game. Has trouble with blocking for a QB that moves away from him (uh oh), and needs to loosen his upper body. Can overextend. Has major injury issues-staph, foot, hamstring, and calf injuries, Oh My!

Murtha, though athletically talented, needs to become a more consistent blocker if he wants to make an impact at the next level. Could  be development prospect for the 3rd round.

Fenuki Tupou, OT, Oregon:

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Another Duck, another talented player. Tupou is a guy who not only flashes physical run blocking, he also shows a solid talent for pass protection. He's fast and gets off the line quickly. Stands at 6'5'' 314 lbs and is still able to play with good leverage. A mauler in the run game he looks for contact, and physical enough to break into the second level.

Tupou needs to use his arms more. They're the right size but he does not always use them to his advantage. Is not consistent when he reaches the second level. Needs to be more consistent while blocking on the move. Has a hard time picking up the outside blitz quickly, and is not effective cut-blocking.

Fenuki Tupou is a guy that if available in the late third round, we could snatch up and attempt to develop over the next few years. A second round pick would be too much risk on him.

Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma:

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A massive player standing at 6'8'', 330 lbs, Loadholt is a mauling run blocker who drives and pancakes defenders consistently. Plays well in the pass protection, keeping pass rushers away from the QB with his long arms and footwork. Plays with good leverage despite being a mammoth and gets his knees bent.

Loadholt needs to be quicker in deterring rushing defenders. Can be beaten off the edge. Can rely too much on his size while blocking which leads to shorter durations of sustaining blocks.

An interesting prospect, Loadholt could be well worth a second round pick if he falls that far. Not sure if he'd be consistent enough, but could be worth the risk.

2008 Highlights

Spotlight Feature

 

Well, there ya have it. Those are my most realistic players for us to spend draft picks on come April. Let me know what you think.

EDIT: To avoid the same fate as air holmes I'll cite my sources.

For scouting notes-I rephrase pick the ones that I think are most important- www.nfl.com

Of course for the highlights, they came from www.youtube.com

 

 

 

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Should I give credit to Herman Johnson for losing 20 lbs for the combine? MMmmm Sorry, No, Never, Absolutely Not. Why was he 380lbs in the first place? Why is he 360lbs now? I can just see Tomlin coaxing him down from 400 lbs every preseason. No, my hope for this guy is he gets drafted in the first round by the Bengals.

Lydon Murtha is too much of an athlete. Somebody will draft this guy long before we have a shot.

I think Fenuki Tupou is a good project along with Louis Vasquez from Texas Tech at guard but both/either would have to fall to the latter rounds 5-7 or UFA.
 
Duke Robinson & Phil Loadholt OOOHHH MMAAAAN!!!! do I wish we could draft these guys. We would need some luck but both have similar flaws and levels of development so I’d be cautious drafting both(I’m asking for a lot of luck aren’t I?).

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Mar 1, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

George Foster, UFA

     I really might be crazy with this idea, but George Foster was a first round draft pick back in 03 (Detroit). He’s in disfavor for false-starting a lot, true. And he has a reputation for being something of a headcase. However, there might be reasonable excuses for his problems, which I won’t entirely detail here.

     What I would like to mention is the fact that he has played both right and left tackle.

     He played in the Denver system, which favors speed and the ability to block in space. He really didn’t fit in that system because he is so big (hence his problems there). But he had to learn a lot about blocking in space, which often becomes important when Ben is doing his crazy legs thing.

     He doesn’t get injured much at all.

     While having solid experience with speedy zone blocking, he also has size and power to make 3 yard runs into 4.

     He plays like a god off the bench (although his performance has been known to fall off after drudging in the trenches for a while).

     Since he is in disfavor and lost his starting spot to Gosder Cherilus, he could be signed for the league minimum.

     Given these things, it seems to me that he could be an extremely solid two-position backup who could do a passable job at starter for brief stints. Just saying that he could provide answers. It would be nice to have someone coming off the bench who might even be a brief improvement over our starters.
     
     How often does that happen?

Who knew?

by Concomitandt on Mar 1, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Nice Analysis, HSS

But even though there are many good options at the OL position, I would love to see us draft the DE Jarron Gilbert out of San Jose St. For those of you who are big on combine numbers, Gilbert’s are very impressive. Maybe you’ve even seen the sensational YouTube clip of Jarron vertically jumping out of a pool, even with his body completely submerged in water.
Freakish athleticism and plenty of size to go along with it. (6’6", 290 LBs.)

I see him as being a potential Lamarr Woodley type dominant pass rusher, only out of the defensive end position in our 3-4.

Thoughts on this from anyone else who knows a bit about this prospect?

by iBleedBlack&Gold on Mar 1, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

I would like to see Gilbert as well but
Some maturity concerns

Taken directly from NFL.com analysis.
That could be nothing or it could be something. I don’t know the guy but whatever that means, any interested team will be looking into it.

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 1, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa, I had to go see that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw

That is something else. I guess I didn’t think it was even possible.

by SteelersVT on Mar 2, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The tough part about that jump is keeping your trunks around your waist.

by Varmint on Mar 2, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Jarron Gilbert

Supposedly he has, or had some character issues. Probably disqualifies him in the Steelers’ eyes.

by Auggie's dad on Mar 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish we could somehow land a kid from my alma mater,

Andy Levitre, from the " Oregon State Beavers." I’ve watched this kid play for the past few seasons and he is very solid and a smart player. He’s a stud at OG. He’s projected to go day one, but if he slips, maybe we could grab him on day two.

by Steeler Ric on Mar 1, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

OL

Duke…a lot of mock’s have us taking him. But I thought columnist, Dale Lolly, whose opinion most respect, felt he was not mobile enough. Steelers often require their guards to pull and not just be a mauler.

Herman Johnson…see above

Unger…it’s interesting to note a good number of draft prospectus have Unger rated ahead of Mack. We all seem to want Mack, I like him too, but Unger is just as highly rated. His versatility would be a big plus, maybe start as RT and move to center after Hartwig’s contract is up.

Tupou…Unger in 1st and Tupou in 3rd would be interesting

Loadholt and Merridth from SC would be good tackle options not in 1st round

by SteelerMike on Mar 1, 2009 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah everything I've read about Duke and Johnson say the same thing

I think they’re both pretty overrated as prospects it seemed like to me in college neither were that good they just got by a lot on size. With so many nfl teams switching to offenses with more mobile guards I don’t see eithr of them doing very well.

Also I love Unger, if we’re not taking a tackle, or a d-linemen, then he’s who I hope htey draft with the first round.

by Gina on Mar 1, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Add Eric Woods to list

Louisville center could be available at the end of the second round. He worked out at guard at Senior Bowl and showed he is athletic enough to make the switch if necessary. Probably a better prospect than Mike Pollak last year, a center who became starting RG at Indy this season. Jarron Gilbert sounds very interesting and the first-rounder could also easily be a CB, but a Day 1 draft that includes two of Britton, Beattie, Mack, Unger in the first round, Woods, Loadholt, Johnson, Robinson, Meredith and even Tupou in the second round (pick your combo) would be interesting indeed. Don’t discount the possibility of the Steelers moving up in the second round. They have enough extra picks to go that route.

by steeler.lifer on Mar 1, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Woods

Yeah, I believe Mike Mayock has Woods rated ahead of both Mack and Unger, so if we got him in the 2nd round, I would pretty happy with that.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Mar 2, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Draft thoughts

I hope we dont draft Max Unger, he will be a bust! He cant handle the big NTs of the AFC! If we get a C that should be Mack, this guy will be a ALL-pro C. He looks a lot Mawae on his prime!

But the Guy I look to get is Duke Robinson, or Eben Britton! Duke is a beast, and would help our running game and the return of the classic rushing pounding attack!
Britton would make our OL great too, help our pass block and move Colon inside!

I dont like drafting a C 1st round, cos we can get some values like Luiggs in the 2nd, but Duke would be the best OG and a position of need!

by SteelerBrazil on Mar 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Beatty

I do not like him at 32. Mayott was talking how this guy takes plays off, isn’t very physical and only recently started to play with passion. I’m very leary of him.

If we stay at 32 and don’t move up, any OT picked here may be a reach. As far as OT’s I like loadholt, Merridth, Tupou in later rounds.

Shipley could be a great value pick in 4th round, if Mack is gone…Mayott singled him out specifically as a potential sleeper.

by SteelerMike on Mar 1, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

Agree on Shipley

Shipley played at Moon High School near Pittsburgh. I live ten miles from there and I watched him play highschool football and he stood out then. He had a great career at Penn State and the Steelers think highly of him. He had a fantastic combine and is very powerful. Don’t be suprised if this is our future center. The Rooneys love hometown talent and he is a Pittsburgh kid through and through. Tough, hardnosed, and competitive….

by Dr Del on Mar 1, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

Center

For some reason i don`t like taking a center with our first pick. I think you could find a good one in rounds 2 and 3. I really think we need to go RT with our first pick. If Kemo was out of the mix i would say we should go with a G or Center, but RT was our weak link last year.

by SteelerDomination on Mar 2, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed...

I am just not of the opinion that C is what we need most. I know we only have Hartwig under contract for 1 more year, and maybe he isn’t the long term solution at that position, but in my mind he was the best/most consistent player on the O-Line last year.

I don’t know how or why Stapleton seems to have become an entrenched starter in some peoples mind. He was a capable back-up, maybe with some upside, and I would be happiest with him as just that. I would not be adverse to him earn a starting spot in camp this year, but I wouldn’t be happy having it given to him by way of Simmons injury/release.

I guess I am inclined toward drafting a guard, or a guy like Unger with a bunch of versatility who could challenge for a starting guard spot this year and move to center in the future. Maybe Mack could do just that, but again I am inclined toward a guard first guy who could maybe play center in the future, and similarly draft a true center prospect in the later rounds. (Or a top end tackle even if they only project as RT, if (and that is a big if) one is still available), that way you could presumably drop Colon into a guard spot.

by Rougue_Behaviorist on Mar 2, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as I agree w/ you about RT being a weak link, I can’;t believe Stapleton is the answer at RG. I suggest drafting the best O-lineman available w/ pure run-blocking ability (we were terrible on 3& short/G2G) and let them battle it out. If he wins RT, let Colon and Stapleton fight for the RG position.

by Auggie's dad on Mar 3, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry I accidentaly bumped this up on the fan posts, I edited the post, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 2, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a good post though, it is welcome at the top of my list any time.

Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.

by steelguy99 on Mar 2, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 2, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hehehe

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 2, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Luigis could be a great fit for us. He’s a better option for the zone running game than Mack, and he might show himself to be better in pass-pro as well. If we could get him in the 3rd, I’d love the pick.

There are quite a few high upside tackles that we could grab later. I like Tupou, Beatty, Meredith, Fulton, Kropog, Capers, and Hartline as athletic, LT-capable, zone blocking types.

I think Robinson and Loadholt will find plenty of success in their careers, but it’s not going to be in a zone blocking scheme. Robinson, in particular, could end up being an Alan Faneca type run blocker, but if we’re sticking with the zone scheme, we’ll just waste his talent.

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by BadMaafala on Mar 2, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

As we’ve been talking about for awhile now, it is particularly useful to note the depth in the center class. Personally I’m a fan of going for a guy like Mack who would hopefully prove to be a great center. I would be more than okay with the steelers waiting until round 3 or so for a guy like Luigs to come around though.

We could spend the first round pick on BPA and the second round pick on a DE or NT like Ron Brace, and then hit the center/guards and tackle in the 3rd, 4th, and/or 5th.

Honestly this is a pretty perfect draft for the steelers – it’s deep in a lot of positions that the steelers need, and very weak in places we could care less about – QB and RB.

Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.

by steelguy99 on Mar 2, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Harvey Dahl

Do you think it would be worth it to us to pick up RFA right guard Harvey Dahl from the Falcons? The Falcons’ line from last year epitomized the sort of run blocking we’re looking for and he’s only 27. However, the tender would be a second round pick.

Would it be worth it to you to get a young ready-to-start right guard in exchange for the 64th overall pick?

by 36chambers on Mar 2, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Question for HSSteeler

What do you think about Jamon Meredith as a later round pick? He’s not a guy who can step in and start right away, but I think he would be a good value pick later in the draft, especially if Tomlin’s fine with his two starting tackles and just wants some depth/future competition.

by CarlWeathersMustache on Mar 2, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Meredith seems like a solid talent

I’d expect that he may go as early as round 2. He had a good combine and is versatile, doesn’t have too many negatives. Was suspended at the beginning of this past season. Can play guard and tackle. I like the guy but I’m not sure if he’d be around in round 3, maybe in round 2 but you’ll see in my mock draft (will be posted soon) why I think we go away from Oline in that round.

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 2, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

I didn’t think he would go that high. He’s a little dicey in the second round. I thought third was the highest he would go. Shows what I know.

by CarlWeathersMustache on Mar 2, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i could be wrong

he’s not a guy I’ve looked into too too much, but based on his skill and other projections I’ve seen, the highest I think he could go would be in the second.

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 2, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I like him

the question is when? I don’t think he lasts past 3rd round.

by SteelerMike on Mar 2, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

OT prospects

What about Jamon Meredith fromS. Car.? He has good size and if he’s in a Spurrier offense, he must be able to pass block.

by Auggie's dad on Mar 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

see two comments above

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Mar 3, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Upgrading D-line

Everybody agrees that we need an infusion of youth on the D-line, right?
I think everyone is aware that college DE’s don’t just walk into contributing positions in the Steelers 3-4 DE spot.
So why aren’t we at least Talking to someone like Igor Oslovsky (sorry Igor) from SD? The guy is EVERYTHING we look for in a DE: He’s over 6’%‘’, over 300lbs., he has experience in the 3-4, and he’s a beast against the run. Does anyone agree?

by Auggie's dad on Mar 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

He's been mentioned

But I don’t know if he’ll fit under the cap. And, I also think most agree that the most pressing need is still at OL. I don’t agree that the FO is making a mistake keeping the starting 5, but I do think that 2 of our first 3 picks should be OL.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Mar 3, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

that OL is a bigger prioty- the FO might not, they think they’ve got the line locked up-. I just don’t see them drafting TWO O-lineman. It’s an admission they screwed up last year (4th pick) and previous years (Essex, Colon, etc.) Remember a few years ago when we neglected the OL and allowed it to get old and vernerable. I see that happening w/ the DL. Remember that it took 4 yrs. for Keissel to fit in at DE, and even Smith took two. Igor is only 26. Historically we’ve signed FA’s who’ve played DT and made them DE. Kimo, Eason, Roye, Seals, to name a few. Pay the guy, and trade away the 5-6-7th rd. picks to save money. They’ve been a waste anyway.

by Auggie's dad on Mar 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Couple points

I don’t think drafting 2 OL will be admitting a mistake. Hills may still replace Colon, who’s only got a one RFA qualifying offer, which he hasn’t signed yet. We need a C of the future, because Hartwig was only signed to a two year deal, and the other OL pick could be a G or T, again because we have so few OL players signed to long term deals. We hope Starks gets an extension, and Colon may be gone after next year. If Colon is gone, and Hills is his replacement, someone has to backup Hills and Starks. But, right now, with our OL contract situation, we’ve got a lot of uncertainty after 2009.

As far as trading away the 5-6-7 picks to save money on the cap, I don’t think it really works that way. Those picks will be making less than 0.5% (each, not combined) of the salary cap, so they are unlikely to make the difference wrt whether they can sign Igor.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Mar 3, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Robinson....

looked liked crap against Florida in the BCS Championship Game.

by rissaldar on Mar 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks HSS

I hope we go OT sometime in the first 3 rounds, but you know me, BPA all the way!

by tkired on Mar 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

My 2 cents

I think there are two “maybe” three OL that are safe picks in the first round. They are MAck and Robinson.

Mack because I like his wrestling background. Wrestlers make good linemen even if they have never played before. This usually translates into good technique. Wrestling is technique and strength. Guess what O-line is? The higher you go (High School to NFL) the more technique becomes important as the strength disparity lessens.

I also like Duke Robinson because 1.) He plays well at both G and T and he is better at pass protection than they give him credit. He made up for a lot of mistakes by Loadholt and to some extent Cooper. Loadholt had a tendancy to be a step slow and “Duke” made it possible for Loadholt to adjust. and 2.) He will be a killer trap blocker.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Mar 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Nice

relation to Wrestling. It kinda makes sense. Everybody is liking Mack though, it might be hard to pick him up.

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Mar 5, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

MACK

Apparently now MACK has fallen off the 1st round, per NFL network..

They have us takin the pool jumpin guy at 32.. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80f0d305&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Saying the Steelers really need more Youth on DL and Gillbert is a natural 3-4 DE.

Personally I would take MACK in stead of the pool jumper, OL first then DL..

by BigDaddyTat2boy on Mar 5, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I think taking a DE in the first is foolish and the steelers do not have a history of doing this.

The steelers need a big, athletic, non-stop motor space-eating machine for a DE. They don’t need to be able to sack or even rush the quarterback, just take care of your space. This type of player can be found later in the draft, and historically for the steelers has been.

Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.

by steelguy99 on Mar 6, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Late or UFA - Fanaika ASU

I’ve been gone for awhile , glad to be back… Others have covered the big names already. I really like this topic for a few reasons:

1) Obvious need for a ‘Running Team" that can’t run against a good defense.

2) O Line is most important personnel group.

3) Any improvments to a SB champion team should get them back to the top.

4) One of ‘my kids’ has a chance to get drafted.

I coached Paul Fanaika his senior year in high school. I am thrilled that he was invited to the combine and could possibly play in the NFL, perhaps even for the Steelers. He has some deficiencies but has size, good feet, intelligence, is a good run blocker and comes from a great family. He earned ASU’s memorial scholarship for most commited /hardest worker as a walk-on. I tried to get interest in him but only had one season with him unfortunately. He is a great young man and I would love nothing more than to see him in black and gold.

Obviously, I am biased but he kind of fits the bill as a potential Steeler. Not the highest rated, not as well known, solid student/athlete and good citizen. He struggles against some crossing blitzes and overcommits at times but definitely can be coached and will continue to get better.

Mack from Cal seems like a good fit at center but I don’t think he is going to be there at 32. I hope they go big on O line and D line. They have enough everywhere else to get back to the AFC champ. game. Maybe one receiver if they think it’s necesary but they have gone heavy there the last few years. With that defense, a better O Line puts them back in the SB.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Mar 4, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

thanks

for the specific insights into this player. Hope to see him in the league in the future.

by tkired on Mar 5, 2009 5:18 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Great post, I think out of all of them I like Unger and Robinson a lot, hopefully 1 of them or Alex Mack is available at 32

BLITZBURGH IS BACK

by Michael Hewitt on Mar 6, 2009 3:25 AM EST reply actions  

Quack!

I’ve watched Unger play the last 4 years. He started out at LT and moved to Center with the departure of Enoka Lucas two seasons ago. He was a beast at both positions. He knew every position on the line and was a great leader for the Ducks. He started 51 consecutive games, second in nation, in college and played his butt off every down. Great player!

by greenthunder on Mar 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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