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How Good Was The Steelers Defense When Faced With A Short Field?

Earlier in the week, there was a great post and debate about the greatest single season defense of all time. Naturally, the conversation took its own course and there was lots of interesting information, opinions and insights shared by all. Now, if we were to truly try to dig deeper on which single season performance was the greatest, we'd have to look at more variables than the great WolfPackSteelersFan was able to account for in his already quite lengthy statistical compilation and analysis. One such variable would have to be 'how did the defense do when presented with a short field.' Not all yards and points are created equal after all. Did the defense surrender a fair number of 6+ minute, long and successful drives that wore down our defense and kept our offense pacing nervously on the sidelines for their turn to play? Or did the defense do damange control admirably after either a turnover, a poor punt, a long return from the other team on special teams, etc?

Well, I don't fancy you'll see me doing this for every single defense that we looked at in the previous post, but I have done it for the 2008 Steelers defense. If a week does not appear below, that is because the Steeers defense was not forced to take the field in their own territory that week. You might notice that those weeks were all games where our offense protected the ball soundly. They were also all wins. At the end, we'll tally up some of the results and see if we can come to any conclusions from the data.

Week 1 vs. Houston Texans

Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
Pittsburgh 12 2nd Qtr, 6:35 4 / -4 FG

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Commentary: I think it was pretty clear that the Steelers came to play in Opening Week of the 2008 season. We weren't going to lose to Houston that day. Nevertheless, that defensive stop by the Steelers midway through the second quarter was big. A 21-7 vs. 21-3 lead was nice, halting any momentum the Texans thought they may have mustered following a Ben Roethlisberger sack and fumble inside Steelers territory.

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Week 3 at Philadelphia Eagles

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 45 2nd Qtr, 5:54 7 / 32 FG
PIT 18 4th Qtr, 3:29 4 / 5 FG

Commentary: Man, I had hoped to not re-visit this one again...ever...but here we are. Part of what was so excruciatingly awful about that game at Lincoln Financial Field was the fact that the defense kept giving the offense opportunity upon opportunity to just make one play, one drive happen. You know, kind of like Ben Roethlisberger and the offense were able to do so frequently the rest of the year. It wasn't meant to be that day.

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Week 4 vs. Baltimore Ravens

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 48 1st Qtr, 5:09 10 / 33 FG
PIT 44 2nd Qtr, 1:42 6 / 44 TD

Commentary: This was actually one of Pittsburgh's poorer defensive showings, at least as measured by how they did when taking the field in their own territory. The Ravens TD before the half in particular was disappointing. Baltimore had been winning the field position battle all half long but were only up 6-3 with about 1 1/2 minutes left. A 13-yard pitch and catch from Flacco to Mason got the Ravens rolling, then a 25 yard screen pass to LeRon McClain put them down near the goal line. A few plays later, Baltimore scored a TD, taking a 13-3 into half that they wouldn't be able to hold onto in the second. The Steelers defense came up with the stops they needed to late in the game to improve to 3-1 following the debacle the previous week at Philly. 5 sacks helped quite a bit. The Steelers D though hadn't quite found its footing like they would in the forthcoming weeks.

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Week 8 vs. New York Giants

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 42 1st Qtr, 1:53 11 / 41 Downs
PIT 19 2nd Qtr,11:27 4 / 2 FG
PIT 29 2nd Qtr, 7:54 7 / 22 FG
PIT 37 4th Qtr, 2:08 3 / 3 Punt

Commentary: I don't know if you remember this game distinctly, but it's the one where the Steelers defense absolutely stoned the Giants along the goal line. Not once, but twice. The first ended an 11 play drive from the Giants. The second kept us well within striking distance, down just 9-7 at intermission. Those stops, albeit eventually in a lost cause, were some of the highlights of the season for me. I remembered blissfully jumping up and down, yelling and high-fiving any one within 20 yards of me.

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Week 9 at Washington Redskins

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 36 1st Qtr, 15:00 4 / 9 FG
PIT 30 1st Qtr,11:57 4 / 5 FG
PIT 47 1st Qtr, 4:26 3 / 7 Punt
PIT31 4th Qtr, 5:23 6 / 5 Downs

Commentary: A truly dominant performance from the defense. Notice though in that first quarter how many opportunities the Redskins had to take an early advantage. Ben Roethlisberger was clearly not right, and would eventually sit out the second half, but that first half was as ugly as any all year really. For those around the country who weren't aware of LaMarr Woodley prior to this early Novemeber Monday Night Football matchup, they were certainly introduced by game's end. He had two of the Steelers seven sacks on the evening, and for a week at least, the disconcerting late meltdown against the Giants was forgotten.

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Week 10 vs. Indianapolis Colts

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 30 2nd Qtr, 1:24 6 / 30 TD
PIT 32 4th Qtr, 4:44 4 /32 TD

 

 

 

 

Commentary: You can't give Hall of Fame Quarterbacks short fields with which to work. The Steelers defense got away with it against lesser signal callers for much of the year, but costly turnovers in our own territory gift wrapped a victory for the Colts on an otherwise very solid day from the defense. Prior to Manning's two 4th quarter TD drives, he had been fairly inaccurate all day, with only one fluke tipped completion to Reggie Wayne keeping his stats looking more like a Joe Flacco line than something Manning's accustomed to posting. One of the low points of the season for sure, just two weeks removed from a similarly frustrating defeat against the Giants.

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Week 11 vs. San Diego Chargers

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
Pittsburgh 49 2nd Qtr, 1:53 4 / 32 INT

 

 

 

Commentary: Funny what happens when you protect the football. The defense doesn't get put in compromising positions. This was one bizarre game that was painfully tough to watch. The Steelers needed it oh so badly, yet despite getting 300+ yards from Big Ben and 100+ yards from Willie Parker - certainly not a regular occurrence this past year - the Steelers could only muster 3 FGs on the day. One can thank 13 untimely penalties for halting any of the flow our offense was doing its darndest to establish that afternoon.

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Week 12 vs. Cincinnati Bengals

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 30 2nd Qtr, 1:00 4 / 5 Downs
PIT45 4th Qtr, 12:06 11 / 37 FG

 

 

Commentary: In a Thursday night game played in the snow, the Steelers got off to another ho-hum start, falling behind 7-0 to the Ryan Fitzpatrick led Bengals. The Steelers would score the next 20 points though, putting the contest out of reach by the time the last second of the third quarter had struck. Part of that was thanks to the defense not allowing a TD or FG before half when Cincy took over at the Steelers 45 thanks to Limas Sweed having a punt hit him which was recovered by the Bungles. No harm no foul as it turned out and the Steelers won a game they had to win. Not pretty of course, but not much was in 2008.

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Week 13 at New England Patriots

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 14 1st Qtr, 12:46 3 / 14
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PIT48 4th Qtr, 2:44 6 / 27 End of Game

 

Commentary: The Patriots capitalized on an early Ben Roethlisberger INT to take a 7-0 lead, and all of Steelers Nation was probably muttering to themself, 'oh no, here we go again.' Not so fast. The Steelers absolutely dominated the rest of the game, pummeling Mat Cassell with a healthy dose of James Harrison, with some Wood and Snack thrown in for good measure. 5 sacks, 2 Forced Fumbles, and 2 INTs later, and Pittsburgh was heading home to play Dallas with a 3 game win streak in tow.

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Week 14 at Baltimore Ravens

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 46 1st Qtr, 3:19 2 / 0 INT
PIT 43 2nd QTR, 15:00 7 / 33 FG
PIT 16 2nd Qtr, 7:34
4 / 6 FG

Commentary: A huge performance by the defense on the road, with the division crown at stake. Special teams was the culprit on one of the above fortuitous field position drives for Baltimore, but like they had done since the Indianapolis game really, the defense tightened the screws and kept Baltimore out of the endzone all afternoon.

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Week 15 at Tennessee Titans

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Drive Began Situation # Plays / # Yards Result
PIT 41 1st Qtr, 1:31 5 / 17 FG
PIT 39 2nd QTR, 12:50 3 / 39 TD
PIT 37 3rd Qtr, 7:34
9 /37 FG

Commentary: Not much went right this week in Nashville. Ben Roethlisberger had a hard time protecting the football, the interior of the offensive line got eaten alive, despite Albert Haynesworth not suiting up for this one. And it didn't help that Kerry Collins played like Joe Montana for most of the game, patiently taking what was given to him underneath and letting his playmakers get yards after the catch. The offense didn't help, and for one of the few times all year, the defense wasn't up to the challenge of bailing them out.

 

Final Totals Of 2008 Defense When Faced With Short Field
Total Drives Scoring Drives
% Resulting In Pts
Punts Turnovers (includes on downs) Points Yielded Season Pts Allowed % of Season Pts
26 18 69% 2 5 74 223 33%

Well, now I'm curious. I want to know what % of the Ravens total points allowed in 2000 came when they began inside their 50 yard line. And I want to know how may total drives they had to face in those circumstances. Obviously it's not necessarily an impressive feat to surrender points, but with as good as NFL kickers are, it just takes one first down really to get them in range and there's 3 points. So if you're faced with a high volume of those situations, you're going to give up points. How many though and more importantly, will it be 3 or 7? And as a follow-up, when not faced with a short field, does the defense really do its best work?  

I suspect in Baltimore's case, they faced fewer such drives in 2000. I also suspect that their % of drives that yielded points will be similar, and that the % of the season's points allowed will be a decent amount lower. Why? Well, I'm guessing that Ravens offense turned the ball over less frequently than did the 2008 Steelers offense. They had Trent 'Game Manager' Dilfer playing QB. I don't recall his actual statistical output that year, but if we take the campfire stories about Dilfer's impeccable decision making to be true, than he surely had far fewer INTs and fumbles than Roethlisbeger did last year. Which all means the Ravens defense was likely in fewer such situations than was the Pittsburgh Steelers 2008 defense.

Color me curious. For now, my hunch is that we should be even more impressed by this year's defense regardless of how my opinion may or may not have changed after reading and participating in the debate about the greatest defense ever earlier in the week. Had this year's defense not been given a short field to defend 26 times in 11 games, I imagine that our points per game would have been even more impressive - closer to 12.5 per game than 13.9.

Cheers to Dick LeBeau returning in 2009 to participate in his 51st year as either a player or coach in the National Football League. There have been many great ones for him over the year, but perhaps none was more impressive than the defensive season turned in by the defense he masterminded and directed in 2008.

 

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great stuff

Great stuff as usual, Blitz. Thanks for taking the time to put all this together. The ability to limit the damage when given a short field was the greatest thing about the 2008 Steeler defense, in my opinion. So many times they kept the game close when it could have gotten out of hand in the first half. They consistently gave the offense chances to put together that game-winning drive. Sometimes the offense didn’t do it (Philly), but often they did (Washington, Baltimore, Dallas) and victory was snatched from the jaws of defeat.

In looking over your data, I’m most impressed by the fact that the defense only allowed 5 TDs all year long on drives that started in their own territory. 5 TDs out of 26 drives, or less than 20. As you mentioned, 3 points is almost automatic in that situation, so preventing 7 points is huge, and the Steelers did that over 80 of the time. In addition, since they forced 5 turnovers and 2 punts, they actually allowed 0 points 7 times. So when starting a drive in their own territory, it was more likely that the Steelers would give up no points than surrender a TD. That’s astounding.

by nycsteeler on Mar 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

20% and 80%

not sure why the % symbols didn’t appear…I know I had them in there

by nycsteeler on Mar 14, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

not sure why per centage signs sometimes get effed up. Wondered myself for some time.

by Michael Bean on Mar 14, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it was 8 times that they didnt score

Because in one instance, the game ended on New England. That should count imo since they were trailing and were trying to score at the time.

by Michael Bean on Mar 14, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

Great analysis Blitz! Looking at these numbers one gets a sense of just how often our offense and special teams put the D in a bad situation. I don’t even think this tells the full story. I imagine there were plenty of drives that started near mid-field, but no in our territory.

Here’s to hoping that Bruce, Larry and company figure it out for next year and that the return of robo-punter erases the traumatic memories of this year.

by SteelerBuddha on Mar 14, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff

It amazed me how many times the were able to stonewall teams after a turnover. You just dont see that all that often. And yet they really put the boof on anybody when the time came.

And yeah that Giants game pissed me off. We had those suckers. We had em dead. And then the Colon wiped that TD. And then the Silverback Snap. Ugh.

by Mechem on Mar 14, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

As I recall

during the course of the season the defense had to bail out the offense countless times. Whether it was turnovers or those girly punts we had to endure all year they were stout and kept us in games we probably deserved to lose.

That said, when the defense faltered at the end of the Superbowl it was nice to see the offense repay the favor. The curse of the SI cover had me worried but James Harrison’s TD run shattered that myth.

by Steev1705 on Mar 14, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Off topic but

Pro football Weekly is reporting Joey Galloway just signed with the Patriots. Looks like we’ll be looking for another veteran. Tory Holt perhaps?

by Steev1705 on Mar 14, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

hes gonna want ducats

Seriously I doubt “big old game” is gonna take a cheap out this year.

by Mechem on Mar 14, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Next? How many times did the opponent cross the 50?

First, you guys are amazing! This site is fast becoming my favorite Stillers read and it’s primarily because of your writing abilities and your insane dedication to all things Stillers.

Thanks for another mind-numbingly interesting and detailed Stillers article.

That all said, as great as the 08 Stillers D was, for any Stillers diehard who saw the 70s teams play, nobody, no statistics, no anything, will likely ever convince us that any defense was better than several of the seasons we had in the 70s, most notably of course, 1976.

Take a look at this site
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1976/probowl.htm

We all know that Pro Bowl selections are not a very good (read “pretty bad”) measurement of a player’s true ability. The selection process is a bit of a joke and many times players get voted in on reputation.

That said, with all due respect, and I have an immense amount of it for you, your selection of this relatively obscure measurement of a defense’s greatness – points against a short field – is arguably as bad a measurement as the number of Pro Bowl players on a given squad.

So as briefly as possible, consider this – the Stillers had EIGHT MEMBERS of their DEFENSE selected to the Pro Bowl Pro Bowl in 1976, LC, Greene, Ham, Lambert, JT Thomas, Blount, Wagner, and Edwards. (Per the link, only LC and JT were not 1st team.)

If you’re scoring at home, that’s 2 DL, 2LBs, and the freaking secondary. Lambert of course was DPOY that year, on the heels of Blount in 1975 and Greene in 1974.

If you saw the Pro Bowl that year, it was the NFC offense against the Stillers D. BTW, the AFC won 24-14 and Blount was the MVP.

You young guys, (I assume you are), I love you to death, but you need to get over it. The 90s Stillers Ds were awesome, the 08 D was GREAT, but the Stillers defense of the 70s is immortal. Period.

For a more long-winded argument from me on this, please refer to the (paraphrasing) “Best D of All Time” article comments.

As an aside, the chant of “DE-FENSE” at NFL stadiums was born in the ’burgh in the 70s. The Stillers defense in the 70s was an all-encompassing phenomenon of the sports scene.

So much so that in 1978, after the Buccos swept a doubleheader from the Phillies at Three Rivers on Friday night of the final weekend, a sellout throng that did not quite know what to do with itself, left the stadium LOUDLY AND LONGLY and in unison chanting “DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!” It lasted from leaving our seats until we got in to our cars. We were parked a mile away and I couldn’t speak after that for two solid days.

Why is that noted here?

If you know Buccos history, you know we were “The Lumber Company” in the late 70s, a murderer’s row of offensive talent. We were clearly NOT noted for our DEFENSE.

But the hearts and souls and minds of all ’burgers in that golden era were so firmly affixed to the immortal talent that was the Stillers DE-FENSE that a this chant was likely to break out anywhere and at any time.

Even after a freaking baseball game.

by Fats Holmes on Mar 14, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Fats

I was young then, but I do remember some of those great teams. I am not arguing the facts becasue I tend to think the way you do, but I am not sure that the original idea behind the post was to claim the ‘08 Steelers D the best of all time. I think it was more to put into perspective and to quanitfy (by something measurable) the performance of the team this year compared to other “great defenses”. I think statistics can be decieving, but it does help compare apples to apples. Also, the argument can be made that the football from the 70’s was different in so many ways from the football being played today that any comparison of the two eras is loaded with holes. (ie rule changes that benefit the offense etc, etc….)

"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?

by OhioYinzer on Mar 14, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Fats,

I knew that Steel Curtain defense, I covered that Steel Curtain defense, some members of that defense were even friends of mine….and I agree….the ’08 Steelers were no Steel Curtain defense. They were certainly not as physically dominating.

Bud Carson didn’t have to “coach ’em up” back in the seventies. The Steel Curtain would simply kick your ass. The controlled the line of scrimmage, and ate quarterbacks and running backs like cereal from a box. They didn’t need to conceal blitzes. The could tell you what they were going to do, and then do it, and there was nothing you could do to stop Mean Joe, Bags, Dwight and Fats. And with the all-world linebackers and defensive backs behind them, the front four never had to be tentative.

LeBeau’s team has two nuclear threats at outside linebacker, and two ballistic missiles in the backfield. The other guys may be excellent, but are not superstars. LeBeau coached the defense up and turned them into a perfectly functioning unit.

Blitz’s stat is ABSOLUTELY relevant, because a team can post deceptively good defensive stats if the offense is able to possess the football for long, time consuming drives and always leaves the other team with 80 years or more to go to get to pay dirt.

As Mr Ace is the Place might say, “if you don’t have the football, you’re not gonna get many yards rushing or passing, and if the other team doesn’t turn it over or make a mistake, you’re probably not gonna score many points when your defense is out there.”

The ’08 Steelers did NOT have a dependable running game, and had trouble playing ball control football. Eventually, a short yardage passing game helped out, but the lack of consistent play by the OL meant more punts – and a number of costly turnovers. And that put more pressure on the D.

And I would strongly agree with Blitz, that when the other team gains possession of the football on your side of midfield – when they have a short field in front of them – when they are in or near field goal range already – that’s pressure.

And game after game, time after time, LeBeau’s defenders rose as one to the pressure. As a team, they prevailed. Not as individuals, but as a team. And they were at their best when it really counted.

by Homer J. on Mar 15, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good work Blitz!

Another insightful and well placed piece of investigative journalism..er…or is it still just blogging? Anyway, I think that your theory about how to measure the quality of a defense using these statistics is a good indicator not only of how good the defense is, but how out of sync and inconsistent our O was as well. Some of those drives were the direct result of turnovers, some poor special teams efforts…mostly bad punts I am guessing…and those combined with three and outs that started inside the 20 were also huge. I guess that what I am getting at is that had our offense been better our Defense would have been more dominant than they already were. Can you imagine what we could have done time of possesion wise with a running game in the top 5? It is almost scary to think about.

"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?

by OhioYinzer on Mar 14, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Steeler D #1

Actually this story hit the nail on the head with this defense. This defense, especially in the playoffs, was about risk management. They faced the two hottest offenses in football (Chargers and Cardinals) and held them in check just enough. It was very reminiscent of the old Jim Collier “Bend but Don’t Break” defenses with the Broncos. Dictate to the offense “what is allowed” and wait for the drive to stall or a big mistake. In the SB it took 3/4 of the game before Fitzgerald could get into the game and then only because they sent him inside near the line of scrimmage. Otherwise he wouldn’t have had a catch. This was a record season for scoring (22.1pts./game/team). There were too many games that looked more like open field versions of basketball than football last season. It seems fitting that the Steelers would win the championship with a style of defense that still works even when all the rules (and league fines!) are all plotting against them. For those football fans that love defense the Steelers saved the day (and for that matter, the sport).

by sharpejkev on Mar 15, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

'76, '94, '08, and...

First of all, thank you Blitzburgh. I loved the compilation and analysis. I love all you guys, as well. Steelers fans know their junk! Love it! But I’m writing because Fats makes several good points, although he may be off in the ‘why’ of the writing of the article. Homer and Ohio made salient points that were well covered, but one thing I have to point out is the gradual shift from the run to the pass over the years. In each SB winning year the yds per game that the Steelers have allowed has gone down. Where the average in ‘74 was about 110 yds per game, the average this year was 80.2. What does this indicate? The increase in the passing attack. Teams pass more and look to strike quickly or spread teams out to exploit holes. More than ever, the pass sets up the run. So, with the watering down of the league with 32 teams now, rules that favor the offense (especially the WR’s and the QB), and teams using 3, 4, and even 5 WR sets, the need to “conceal blitzes” is actually necessary. As offenses evolve, so must defenses. So Blitzburgh’s analysis is a poignant one, one that does have relevance. A’ight y’all, I’m out. WAR a Steeler repeat in ’09 giving us 5 straight decades of Super Bowls.

by steelerj_sun on Mar 15, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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