Reports Differ As To Whether Or Not The Pittsburgh Steelers Are Close To Releasing Veteran LB Larry Foote
UPDATE: The Steelers have responded that ESPN and other media reports claiming Larry Foote has been released are erroneous. Out of respect to the organization and Foote, we're going to change the title and content of this post so as not to confuse anybody until official word is made by the Steelers organization itself. Whether this is just standard protocol as the organization explores all possibilities surrounding Foote and his potential trade value, or if the Steelers in fact do not intend to release Foote, we'll just have to wait and see. This is why we don't get into rumor propogation here on BTSC, though in this instance, we were just relaying what had been reported by a major national media outlet. Thanks. - Blitz-
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It it is indeed true that the Steelers might decide to part ways with the classy Larry Foote, they will be saying goodbye to more than just a high character guy and vocal intelligent leader for our defense. He has also been a hell of a good ILB in Dick LeBeau's system. His contributions were not minimal in the slightest. In six seasons, Foote posted 431 tackles, 14½ sacks, three interceptions, 11 passes defensed, seven forced fumbles and four recoveries.
More on Foote's run in Pittsburgh when/if the time calls for it, but for now, just another cruel reminder that balance sheets, budgets and salary caps have to be made each month and year in the National Football League.
There are arguments to be made for both outcomes.

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switched out posts..this comment from the wise one Cols
Wow. I’m surprised. I’ve always liked Foote and I think the Steelers will miss him and that some other team will pick him up and he’ll continue to play well. That being said, he was just going to be a backup this year and had only 1 more year on his contract, so while they’ll miss him, they can easily live with out him. He’s only 27 or 28 so he has some productive years left. I imagine he won’t be a FA for very long.
Hopefully this gives them room to sign Starks long term and extend Hampton and Miller.
I'm super upset about this, actually.
Foote was a perfect piece to the LB corps; he always showed up, always brought his lunch pail; he never backed down from anyone or any situation, yet he was always classy.
I think it’s stupid to “hand” someone the starting job, which I feel is occurring here. Timmons didn’t beat out Foote for a reason…Foote’s good.
One of the things that made the D special last year was the ability to line up Timmons anywhere will still having Woodley and Harrison, as well as Farrior and in some cases Foote still on the field. I think this move will kill the depth, as well as the ‘fatigue’ factor.
Argh, I’m pissed. I wasn’t even pissed when the FO let Porter go…the last time I was this mad at the Steelers for letting someone walk was Yancey Thigpen, and that was a long time ago, and I was a lot younger (and didn’t fully understand the game).
by Romain El 82 on Apr 28, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I know why you're mad!
First your name became obsolete now your avitar. j/k
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
Lol
I’m not changing the name nor the avatar.
by Romain El 82 on Apr 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like it either, but...
at least give it to the Steelers for releasing him now, and not after Timmons beats him out in training camp (if it were to happen). Foote now has a significant amount of time to find a new place with a new team. If you’re paying two people millions for the same spot on the roster, one has to go.
Now, the super-classy thing to do would be to release him before the draft, when his chances of a pickup were better, but they held on and hoped for a trade. No one bit at the bait. Hopefully he finds a good home on a team in the NFC.
Foote is quoted somewhere (Trib?) saying he has been asking to be released since Feb. The team did not release him early in FA when there was more money. They released him late. Actually, it’s also reported that they won’t technically release him for a bit more yet to protect against a freak injury by Timmons this week. They aren’t doing him any favors in the timing.
He will be loved
once he gets to KC. Thanks for giving away a great player
by Haleystheman on Apr 28, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the good thing about having 54 of them, we can donate them to teams like the chiefs.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
you say that
like its an issult. I wouldnt boast about giving away a good linebacker. I’ll take him off your hands gladly. And i think its 53 not 54.
The Don's gonna make you and offer you can't refuse.
by Haleystheman on Apr 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think The Bengals pick him up
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
No way, he hasn’t been caught doing blow driving 100mph with a prostitute in the sideseat.
How can anyone possibly believe Whiz doesn’t pick him up?
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
That's what I was thinking.
He can rejoin Haggans.
That makes sense
I don’t think foote wants to go to Cincy
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
rofl
It's true what they say...Even the NFL's Big Wigs hate the Steelers. On the plus side, I can now tell my future grand kids about Hines Ward and how the NFL made rules because of him. Roger Goodell, you make me sick.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically...
…when you go to the bengals the transaction has 2 steps: (1) the cops pick you up on suspicion of DUI and then (2) the bengals pick you up.
Doubt it They just got Maualuga.
It's true what they say...Even the NFL's Big Wigs hate the Steelers. On the plus side, I can now tell my future grand kids about Hines Ward and how the NFL made rules because of him. Roger Goodell, you make me sick.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 28, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers West
The only question is when will Arizona sign him?
McFadden, Haggans, Kreider, Morey, Foote
Tony - Stillers Fan in Raleigh
Damn
I think we should hire Larry and a dozen Rockettes to come out at halftime and perform the stomp live at each home game.
…way better than anything Steely McBeam has been up to.
Damn, that sucks
Then again, wasn’t he a little on the older side? Does Timmons step in for his position now?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Foote was only 28, plenty young, just not good enough.
Flacco will have a new face in his nightmares, yes.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
I was thinking of Farrior
My bad. And now the Ravens have a new RT to hold whatever LB comes in for the rush.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Don't like it
Foote is one of my favorite Steelers, so it sucks to see him go. But we now have no ILB depth. And Farrior is great, but he’s old, and he might not hold up. I know they needed the cap room, but if they would’ve signed Starks instead of franchising him this wouldn’t have been necessary. Oh well. There’s only so much money to go around I suppose.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Apr 28, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
My biggest knock about the Foote trade/cut rumors before it happened was the depth.
Tomlin loves depth, depth allowed us to win the SB. ILB has no perceived depth, but I don’t think the steelers (and tomlin) would make this move unless they were extremely happy with what they say in their backup FAs. Fox, A. Harrison, Woods, Bailey all be making the team this year. They are likely very capable backups or this wouldn’t be done, and having all of them on the ST at the same time is sick.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
We have Fox and Humpal
"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"
at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.
by PA ARMY OFFICER on Apr 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmons, Fox?
No ILB depth? What are you smoking?
Timmons plays both ILB and OLB. Fox is a capable backup.
I think he means
that we now have only three ILBs on the roster, though a few of the backup OLBs could play the role ina a pinch.
right
yeah, and after I wrote that post, it occurred to me that Timmons might now be a starter at ILB, so technically, he wouldn’t be DEPTH.
So, okay … maybe we are a tiny bit thing at ILB.
And
As far as I know Fox has never played a down as an ILB. Imagine the catastrophe if Farrior goes down and we play out the season with Fox and Timmons, who is suspect between the tackles, as our ILBs. Not a good scenario.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Apr 28, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bye Bye Larry
It’s about time, the move made sense especially re the cap. It’s Timmons time people and this is something to be excited about. This kid can bring it. Foote was slow and didn’t pack a punch like Timmins can. He didn’t show for volunteery workouts so he knew along with Tyrone Carter…he’s probably gone too. Foote was a good Steeler though.
Wishing you well in DET
Thanks larry for being a solid player and Citzen and you will be missed . I wonder if the Steelers are regretting not Drafting any ILB at least for Depth. I would think both Schantz from Portland St and Mulitalo from Sacrmento st might be getting a long look.
Wonder they cut Russell and sign Batch
now cut Foote sign Leslie?
LOL
The only way to make me love a michigan man is for him to be a steeler and win a super bowl.Godspeed Larry,this is one Steelers fan who will always love this michigan man!!I can see him fitting into Indys’ speed defense??
yes that is the only redemption for maize and blue
If you don the black and gold, you’re back to even status. Foote and Woodley winning a Superbowl is the only way for a wolverine to be respected in my book. Woodley is the freakin’ man. I don’t care if he went to al qaeda university!
I’m sad to see a great warrior leave, but really we have no cap room right now. We simply can’t afford luxuries like an extra starter at ILB. Did we even have enough cap room to sign our draft picks before this? It was close. Ward and Tayler resignings probably got us an extra million.
Good luck Larry.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
The "_SU"s
Never liked Plax. Don’t like Holmes, will never have his jersey, etc.
The same goes for anyone who played for Notre Dame, and I suppose PSU as well.
GO BLUE!
by Romain El 82 on Apr 29, 2009 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
too bad
I feel like the FO kind of dropped the ball on this one, more in terms of not getting a trade done than getting caught in sticky cap situations.
eh, it happens
if the Steelers weren’t up against the cap, then we would be wondering why they aren’t spending money to have the best players available.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Apr 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw this coming
when Timmons made his massive child support settlement. He is getting a big new contract sooner than later.
Child Support Setllement?
It's true what they say...Even the NFL's Big Wigs hate the Steelers. On the plus side, I can now tell my future grand kids about Hines Ward and how the NFL made rules because of him. Roger Goodell, you make me sick.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 28, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmons is primed and ready to go
We’ll be missin’ ya Larry, but it’s time for the next generation of Steelers to come through.
Also means Keyaron Fox is now the number 1 reserve at inside linebacker. That’s fine with me, I was able to see him play in person and that guys a gamer.
It's true what they say...Even the NFL's Big Wigs hate the Steelers. On the plus side, I can now tell my future grand kids about Hines Ward and how the NFL made rules because of him. Roger Goodell, you make me sick.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 28, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
I think he will return to Detroit
Bring some winning attitude to that franchise. I’d think he would be an outstanding addition to the Lions.
I’m going to hope this is just a cut and resign. . . but it isn’t likely.
Man. Foote was such a great 4th for our LB core. You can’t afford 4 stars at LB, someone has to make less money. I always thought it would be Foote and Timmons and Farrior would go, but the old man’s holding on and I guess Timmons is ready.
I hope this doesn’t come back to haunt us.
I can’t remember the last time we cut a really good starter for cap reasons. I really hope he resigns.
Joey Porter
We cut him for cap reasons. And he was still playing good ball. The FO just had confidence in the depth beneath him, for good reason.
by Chicago Steeler on Apr 28, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He had one year left on his contract. I’m fairly sure it was almost an identical situation.
by Chicago Steeler on Apr 28, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder why he wasn't traded
Seems a shame to lose a great player and get not so much as a draft pick for him. Or maybe we did try to trade him draft day and his agent refused.
What’s that sound — is that Whisenhunt sniffing around?
Because Larry Foote has earned the right to choose where he wants to play.
It would have been unfair to trade to a team that he doesn’t want to play for, for what would have amounted to a 7th (maybe a 6th with some smooth wheeling and dealing).
If he really wants to be a Steeler he will take less money to be a backup. But that isn’t likely; somebody will pay him good money to come in and be a starter. He is relatively young and has experience (and rings).
I wish him nothing but the best.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Apr 28, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
But why not Detroit?
He said he wanted to play there, and their draft positions were pretty tasty. He could also have been packaged with some of our draft picks to move us into, say, a better second-round position.
Oh well, no value in speculating. It’s all history now.
Salute! Good luck in Arizona!
Thanks for all the good years, Larry!
I hope your ticket to Arizona wasn’t too expensive!
Thanks Larry!
Like others have already said, Larry Foote was a class act, a consummate professional, a 2 time super bowl champ, and will always be a Steeler in my book.
With that said, the reason they didn’t trade him is that it was obvious this was coming; Timmons can not be kept off the field for another season (too talented, too expensive), which makes Foote too expensive as a back-up. Also contrary to others worries, the ILB depth is not a real concern (or not as real as the cap situation).
Anyway, if I saw this coming, so did every other front office in the league, which means that the return on a trade for him would have been minimal if anything. In other words, the Steelers FO did him a favor by cutting him before camps open and not trading him to a place where he may not want to go. In fact it was a classy move the FO and IMHO a well deserved departure for a class act.
Again, I for one will miss you having Larry Foote in the center of our D, and although an unfortunate by-product of the current state of the NFL, a neccessary move (and one which very well could upgrade our D-fense.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Apr 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think class had anything to do with it
According to Mary Rose (see below), we did try to trade him, but no one wanted him at $3 million.
Larry!!!!!!
Larry Foote we are gonna miss you man!!!! I was really hoping he would be around longer……this is sad. It’s a business though….he probably knew Timmons was coming on strong.
THANKS LARRY!!!!
L!
Thanks Foote!! You helped us bring home 2 Lombardi's
The sound you hear is the sound of Wiz’s boner popping. Enjoy the weather in Zona Larry.
I heard on the radio that the Steelers tried to trade him over the weekend
Even for a ham sandwich, but found no takers. Maybe that means no one, including us, believes he is worth $3 million. He could re-sign with us or anyone else for probably less than $3. If he gets more than $3 then I am going to be upset that we didn’t trade and get a pick. Not that we needed another pick, but we could have packaged a few picks for one better one.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
My head understands the reasons,
but my heart is sad. Foote was a solid performer.
I immediately thought about Tomlin’s prescient remarks the morning after the Super Bowl:
For me, the thing I’m going to tell the football team is that we’re not attempting to repeat. That group of men who were in that locker room – that’s gone forever. We’ll have a new 53-man [roster next season]. … You won’t hear me saying words like ‘repeat’ or ‘defending’ because it will be brand new.
Nothing stays the same in this game. A lot of the faces will be the same, but a few will come and go, and of those who will remain, roles will change. Some will ascend. Some will descend. That’s the nature of today’s NFL. Repeating and defending a Super Bowl championship is a misnomer.
(source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/03/tomlin-wont-say-repeat/print/ italics mine)
"That group of men who were in that locker room – that’s gone forever."
I think that quote was just Tomlin looking forward to a team without Mitch “no hamstrings” Berger.
Sorry Mitch. God bless you buddy!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Mitch Berger was a gamer,
playing through injury, making crucial tackles. But umm, yeah, whatever the reasons, he couldn’t punt for us, and I’m glad to see Sepulveda back. I hope Mitch enjoys his retirement from football, going out with a ring.
Interesting tidbits
According to Ed Bouchette:
1) Larry Foote asked to be moved to a team where he could start, trade or release
2) Steelers will hold on to him for a week to dangle him as trade bait in case some other team’s LB is hurt during minicamps this weekend
so he wanted more playing time
Foote was unwilling to play back-up, and the FO didn’t want to pay $3 million for a back-up. Sounds like a reasonable rationale for an amicable split.
thank you, larry foote,
(or foot-E, as my wife calls you). steeler nation is very grateful for how you brought it every game; how you kept your personal stuff to yourself and kept your mouth shut for the most part; and for your part in winning two more rings for the pittsburgh stillers. we will always love you for that. we wish you the best wherever you end up, but we are also optimistic about what timmons and fox and others will be able to do now that you’re moving on.
...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com
Tragic
I wish this didnt have to happen, but it is Timmons’ time now. Thank you Larry for all that you have done, and good luck in the market. I hope he gets paid by Detroit and helps them win again.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Apr 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
Foote
I’ll miss him too and I hate that we couldn’t move him for something, but it’s hard to root that he won’t sign a decent contract just so he’ll return to the Steelers for cheap. I hope he goes somewhere and plays well.*
*course I reserve the right to hate his guts for going to a team I despise.
Life after L. Foote in Sixburgh
Guys, Larry Foote made many big plays during his time with the Steelers and contributed greatly to their two Super Bowls. We thank him for his play and wish him well.
But the bottom line is you don’t draft them no. 1 to sit. Especially someone with Timmons’ type of talent. Foote was a 2-down LB that didn’t play special teams and had a salary cap value of $3.93M. With his release, the team will free up $2.9M, which is valuable room when you have a draft class to sign as well as several veterans to extend.
Your 2 starters are Timmons and Farrior with Keyaron Fox being your 3rd starter in waiting. The competition will be who is the 4th inside backer. The competition will be between D. Woods, A. Harrison, and others. I think, ultimately, that Donovan Woods will win that spot because he is a good special teams player that you can have active on game day who can also play OLB in a pinch.
Foote was a good draft pick and starting player, but this is the NFL. The Steelers have to begin the process of turning this roster over and you won’t be a veteran here making big money if you aren’t starting. He probably won’t be the last veteran to be shown the door. Thoughts?
or Patrick Baily
Rookie of the year. or are you thinking of him as OLB back up? I thought that’s what A Harrison was.
by syrsteelerfan on Apr 28, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
SHIT! We coulda traded him! at least this gives us some
draft money and Timmons was just waiting
When we hit you, you don't get up. When you hit us, we get up laughing.
You don’t actually read anyone else’s comments, do you?
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
Don't be bummed!
Timmons outplayed Foote last year and played less.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
Detroit bound?
The article on Profootballtalk.com says he was asking for the trade. Seems like he’s got his rings, now he wants to be close to home and possibly help rebuild a losing franchise. Otherwise I’d think he might have been interested in restructuring his contract. I’ll miss him, quality player, quality guy, just who we want to represent us.
Stay Classy Larry Foote
Shame. Really liked that guy. Glad it’s an amicable divorce. I hope he goes to Detroit.
a different spin
Even if the steelers wanted to pay him to be a backup, Foote didn’t want to be one.
http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/2009/04/foote-wants-out.html
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
Right - Thanks. Next.
Unhappy player who’s overpriced and playing in front of a monster #1 pick (who can make ‘splash’ plays ala Deebo) … somethin had to give.
Thanks for the memories Larry! We have the depth at ILB and Timmons is the better all-around player for ’09 and beyond.
HE'S NOT RELEASED YET
it came out in the post-gazette that he isnt released yet. the steelers plan on doing it after this coming weekend (probably hoping that one team changes their mind and trades for foote).
part of this was caused by crapping reporting (once again) by espn. they seem to love stating rumors & speculation as fact.
Probably not the plan.
Foote is still good and in his prime. With several teams ( Detroit, Denver, Green Bay)switching to the 3-4 he’ll have value and they may be able to get some compensation. Maybe this is why Detroit passed on the USC lbs in the second rd. for a safety. But New England passed on those same guys and (" GOD FORBID HE BECOMES A PATRIOT" ), I’d have to wish him ill will. Its likely the plan was to keep him and release Farrior, but Farrior is still in great shape, is cheaper, and he calls the plays. Foote did a great job but was always going to be the fourth guy, a solid pro on a great D , but never any mention of a pro bowl bid. He made it easy for the team to let Kendrell Bell and his injuries move on and was always in the right place on time. For this, we love him and thank him , and hope we get somthing for him .
nicely said, micculus
(like that name, by the way… very mythological-sounding)…
as well as larry foote performed for us, his presence was stunting timmons’s growth. the flashes timmons has shown indicate he might be kendrell bell-scary (in a good way). this move was inevitable the moment timmons’s potential became obvious. larry’s still in his prime and too expensive to become a backup. so it’s sad but it’s logical. i say it was a move we needed to make.
as a tribute to larry, though, when i flatten my son playing couch football tonight i’m gonna stomp one out on the carpet…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Apr 28, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
I Love this Team
How spoiled are we as fans that we are freaking out about our fifth linebacker? It’s truly awesome seeing how most teams can’t find more than two.
by jreser on Apr 28, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Tomlin implementing Tampa 2 D into Steelers 3-4 D
A few people have commented when they expect to see Tomlin make the 3-4 Steelers D into his Tampa 2. Well, the transition has already started, but not like you think.
In case any of you haven’t noticed, Tomlin wants his 3-4 ILB to be 3-down players, which means the team is now targeting smaller ILB with speed that can cover, ala Lawrence Timmons, Keyaron Fox, D. Woods. I think Patrick Bailey is more of an OLB than an ILB. Regardless, he’s a beast on special teams. Tomlin also wants his safeties with the flexibility to be able to play corner. So, you don’t have the typical 3-4 monster-sized LBs that Cowher had or the strictly inside the box safeties like the team had under Cowher (that is why Anthony Smith was sent packing, that and not being able to keep the ball in front of him).
So, that’s why players like Timmons, Gay, Roy Lewis, and Mundy will become the norm on this team rather than the exception. Speed kills in the NFL and Tomlin wants as much as possible on the field, on offense and defense. The NFL is changing and the Steelers remain ahead of the curve.
nice analysis, truth...
if you’re right, we might see the brain-trust let ryan clark walk next year. he’s a warrior but might not fit the scheme you spoke of, especially as age catches up and he loses a step. some of those final-year vets are gonna have to go in 2010 and clark seems logical. i can see lewis or the kid from oregon state (i know he’s a corner but he might fit better at FS) being groomed to take over, or perhaps us going safety on the first day next year.
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Apr 28, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
The Kid from central florida seems more safety-ish to me actually. He’s a gamer without top end speed (which could kill his chances to ever start at CB) whose a bit of a ball hawk – all of which sounds like a FS to me.
by BluegrassSteeler on Apr 28, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Pay attention to our run D w/o Foote
That flash of black and gold through the line to the quarterback is Timmons, and it’s a thing of beauty. But wasn’t Foote’s forte run defence?
I’m interested how well Timmons can play those situations where he doesn’t get 6 yards of steam built up before the tackle. Sure there may be some drop-off, but Timmons should catch on.
RE: Pay attention to our run D w/o Foote
Yep, you are right ….Larry does not get the credit he deserves around the League for stopping the Run
Timmons better step it Up cause Tomlin does not want any drop off play and expectations next year
by Steeler Y360 Nation on Apr 29, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
RE: Pay attention to our run D w/o Foote
Okay, Larry doesn’t get enough credit for his run D; however, he was fifth on our team with something like 86 tackles, albeit he was taken out in passing situations.
Whatever happens to Larry I do wish him well! Thanks for your time here, and for being a part of two Super Bowl winning teams. He wants to start and have an expanded role in a defense. That is not going to happen here.
What I don’t understand is, if the Steelers knew they were going to do this before the draft, why did they not pick up a LB on Sunday?
RE: why did they not pick up a LB on Sunday?
I came up with 4 possibilities:
1) The Steelers did not know that Larry wanted to be traded during the Draft
2) The Steelers did not have any of the Inside Linebackers high enough on their Draft Board during each round when they selected each of their Draftees
3) The Steelers are comfortable with going with the Inside Linebackers they already have on the Team
4) The Steelers are waiting for some Inside Linebacker from another Team to get hurt soon so that they can make a trade for a draft pick
by Steeler Y360 Nation on May 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is a combination of 3, and 4 with a possibility of 2 mixed in.
I don’t think they didn’t have any highly rated ILB, it was just the ones they did were probably taken at spots that were too high for them.
They knew Foote wanted to be traded and they wanted to trade Foote. If Foote was willing to re-structure his contract and be a back-up ILB for less money, they would love to have him on the team, but that’s not the case. Foote has made it clear that he wants to be a starter and at least a few other teams are interested.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on May 4, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
it was just a matter of time, Timmons was a 1st Round Draft Choice
Foote was a great, solid, STEELER football player! It’s too bad they have the salary cap issues. The Steelers of the 70’s were lucky that there was no free agency.
Good Job Blitzburgh
Yeah I just saw the Steelers’ site and was about to heckel you about this post. Now, I’m glad you changed the title since Larry Foote still remains a Steeler. I like Foote alot also and wish him to stay, though the salary cap say’s cut him or trade him all over it.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Apr 28, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
I remeber
last offseason before Farror signed we thought the ILBs of the future were gonna be Timmons and Foote.
What are the chances we take another 1 or 2nd round LB in a years or two when Farrior hangs em up?
it never got weird enough for me
Da Truth - good analysis
Clark will be a gonner, just as was Lee Flowers – thanx ever so much for the hits on W Welker (one of my faves of all time) and McGahee …
I think Lewis might be the FS of the future. And you’re right not to forget about Mundy. The improved play of the DBs is big change b/w Cowher and Coach T. (I lost years off my life watching Chad Scott make mistakes … every game …. LOL)
LOL
Yes – the D-Backs really have played great since Tomlin came. I remember that it wasn’t too long ago when it felt like you could through the ball against the Steelers 45 times a game and have great success.
by SteelerBuddha on Apr 28, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re the patriots in 2007 you could still do that.
God was that game painful.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
SO WAS THE AFCCG WITH SAN DIEGO A BUNCH OFYEARS BACK.
by steelerstyle on Apr 30, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
About Foote.....
One of the Darkest things that happens when your team wins a SuperBowl is that there are alot of Players who are more interested in starting and making more money from another team the next year.
Larry got his 2 rings, so it does not matter to him about a 3rd one. I can’t blame him or the game of football for this
That’s why it’s harder to repeat as Champs
by Steeler Y360 Nation on Apr 28, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t understand the Super Bowl being related. Wanting to win a SB over money or Playing time might sound nice, but it never is true.
That’s like saying you’d trade in 10% of your salary for a better work environment.
We all like a nice work environment but we always want the money.
by Phantaskippy on Apr 29, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
RE: Wanting to win a SB over money or Playing time might sound nice, but it never is true.
I think you mis-read what I wrote above, Sir
We are both saying the same thing
by Steeler Y360 Nation on May 1, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Clark could be resigned; True story on Chad Scott
Guys, Ryan Clark seems like to me one of those Steelers who will take a little less to retire a Steeler. It is true that we didn’t draft him, but I think he has felt more home here than he did in Washington. I don’t think it’ll take a monster contract to keep him. I also feel that way about Brett Kiesel. Clark, like Ward, kind of optimizes what the Steelers are about — intelligent, good football player who lays it on the line every play.
True story on Chad Scott. Scott grew up in the D.C./Maryland area and he has a son in this area today. I don’t know if he lives in this area now, but when he is in town, he takes his son to the same barbershop in Gaithersburg, Md. that I attend. This past fall, I think it was November or December, Chad drives up in his Bentley and waits for his son to get a haircut ( he doesn’t need one since he is sporting a bald dome). In talking to him that day while waiting to get my haircut, I told him that I believe that if Cowher would have let him play free safety, that he would have been an All-Pro player. He said that he actually wanted to play free safety, but Cowher said he needed him to play corner. He said he never quite had the same speed after he tore his ACL his rookie year. He said the two toughest receivers he ever played against were Michael Irvin and Randy Moss. He said everyone thinks Cowher is this tough guy who is borderline crazy sometimes on the field, but he said Cowher isn’t even the boss in his own household. His wife runs that household and the Chin, he said with a chuckle.
During our talk, he mentioned that he had hurt his knee in the preseason with New England and hadn’t recovered yet like he wanted to. He said that Bill Bellicek from New England had given him a call late last season to see if he wanted to come in and work out for the team and possibly sign a deal for the rest of the season. He said that he wasn’t back to where he wanted to be physically or mentally. He said that people don’t realize how violent it really is between those white lines every week. He said that unless a person is ready to go all in, both mind and body, they shouldn’t do it. He said that it is also no fun lying up in a hospital recovering from a serious injury. To me, he sounded like he was willing to let it go and move on with his life. He said that he is still, first and foremost, a Steelers fan and that he hoped the team would win the Super Bowl. And they did.
All in all, Chad seemed like a great guy. True story from DaTruth.
by datruth4life on Apr 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
RE: True story on Chad Scott
That was really Cool of You to share this story with Us all …Thanks for posting it
I appreciate when a football player talks about how hard life is in the NFL, and how they are proud to be former Steelers
by Steeler Y360 Nation on Apr 29, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Great story truth
Nice insight into the man behind the helmet. Chad Scott was close to being a really good player and had the heart to grind out a decent career despite the injuries and the criticism. Great analysis on Tomlin’s transition of the defense. As for Clark, I think I agree with cliff harris above that the move to speed will eventually cost him his job. He doesn’t have great range. I love his fearless physicality but someone with better tools is going to take his spot before he would ever get to the end of his next contract. Mundy and Keenan Lewis will have a chance this year to get their feet wet and may show enough that they can compete for the FS job in 2010.
by steeler.lifer on Apr 29, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem with Clark is the same one with A. Smith. They are better SS than FS. But yeah, good getting starts at SS.
by Phantaskippy on Apr 29, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
good stuff truth
I have tried to write about how violent and vast the game is – but understandably, it means very little coming from me. I don’t think any of us can really understand just how fast and physical the level of play is in the NFL. So, so violent.
by Michael Bean on Apr 29, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions
violent and fast* that should read, not vast
by Michael Bean on Apr 29, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Courtesy of Steelers.com
Official Steelers Statement on Larry Foote Reports
"Contrary to published reports, Larry Foote is still a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Any stories indicating that Larry has been released by the team are inaccurate."
— Steelers Communications Coordinator Dave Lockett
BLITZBURGH IS BACK
When ESPN and then post-gazette post something i think it is safe to assume for us fans that it is fact. This is some pretty poor “reporting” if it ends up being false. Unless the post, etc. are making up quotes though, Larry sure as hell sounds like he is moving on, no?
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
He'll be a free man on Monday.
The Detroit radio report as of this morning has changed. They’re now saying he’ll be released after the mini camp this weekend. Detroit also reportedly offered a 7th rounder for him, but was denied. I would personally give you guys a 4th or 5th(knowing our draft record).
I’m surprised they denied a 7th. It’s not much, but if they are thinking of cutting him and he wants to play for detroit (which indications suggest), it makes plenty of sense. They obviously think he was worth more than that, and despite the jokes that he is the 11st best player on the defense, he nevertheless was a starting ILB for the steelers for several years, and probably is worth a bit more than that.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
I hope the steelers dangle Foote for your newly drafted NT. Never going to happen, but it sure would be nice to snag him.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
lol was worth a try
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by Michael Hewitt on Apr 29, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
D line comes before linebackers in my opinion. Although I’d consider it…I would have to turn you down, even with the 6th. Unless the D line was sured up with a couple experienced guys, then I could see trading Hill.
by BIGWalt2990 on Apr 29, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The Official Statement of The Bittsburgh Steelers...
http://news.steelers.com/article/105143/
Official Steelers Statement on Larry Foote Reports
"Contrary to published reports, Larry Foote is still a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Any stories indicating that Larry has been released by the team are inaccurate."
— Steelers Communications Coordinator Dave Lockett
haha umm dude
if you look about half a doz comments youll see i already put that there nearly 4 hours ago
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by Michael Hewitt on Apr 29, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You’ll probably also wonder how in the world it can be reconciled with:
“It was my doing,” Foote told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “I wanted to go. They were trying to trade me.”
“I love the team, I love winning, but you can’t keep being unhappy. It got to the point where they were not giving me a chance.”
- http://post-gazette.com/pg/09119/966196-66.stm
Unless Bouchette is making up his conversations and context, which I doubt. Of course, the official report only says that Foote is still a member of the steelers, which I’m sure he is, until they can find a trade partner.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
Hard to get a pick for Foote now
The Steelers tried to trade Foote during the draft and is hoping that maybe some team will look at their LB’s during a minicamp this weekend and say, “Oh, Sheeeett! I think we need another LB.” If not, then he’ll be released.
How good of a player Foote was can be debated. What can’t be debated is that they won 2 Super Bowls with him starting, and the last title with him starting on the no. 1 D in the league. Not bad.
Big Max needs to man up!!
If Starks would just sign a long term deal, we could get under the cap comfortably WITH Foote still on the team. Then we could let him go as a FA next year and receive at least a decent comp. pick for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why the Steelers are waiting on Foote; to see if Max will sign so we don’t have to release him.
I believe the steelers want a lot of room so that they can begin renegotiating a few contracts, as is their way.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
Agreed
We still need Heath Miller re-signed, and Starks, yet we have a few rookie contracts to sort too
Im afraid Foote tacks a backseat to all of that
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by Michael Hewitt on Apr 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that Fox is better than most give him credit for, but I am still a bit concerned about ILB depth.
I’d rather see them get Starks signed and try to hang on to Larry, but I don’t see any of that happening due to what you said about Starks’ financial situation.
I’m expecting that Spaeth may be gone as well, and I agree that Miller is a must-sign.
Spaeth stays
As much as he drives me crazy at times with his blown blocking assignemnts, Arians likes his 2TE sets way too much, and Spaeth does have a lot of upside
And like steelguy99 said, signing Starks is no easy feat now, because of that tag we gave him, its considerably more this year than wed give him per year in a multi year contract
Foote is a great player, i wish there was a way we could keep him, but weve all seen this move coming from a long way off
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by Michael Hewitt on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
There is certainly motive for Starks to sign because although he’s making a lot this year, his quality of play isn’t going to make him a bundle in the future. He’s alright, but not even close to great. I wish that he would pull a Bettis/Ward/Taylor move and do something financial for the team.
If our 7th round TE (Johnson, I think) does ANYTHING in camp (I hear he’s a pretty good blocker, but I haven’t seen any film yet), and we keep McHugh around, then I think there’s at least a slim chance that Spaeth gets the axe.
Fox's signing was a good one...
I knew that we were going to be flirting with this whole Foote/Timmons situation, and although I’m still concerned, I like having Fox singed.
hard to see the core players of this great group go
truth’s story about chad scott underscores how hard for many of us it is to see the core players of this great group of steelers go. i almost feel apologetic about it now (because he seems like a good guy), but i just about popped a bottle of dom when they let chad go. it wasn’t that difficult for us when he left, or when guys like amos zerouoe or wayne gandy or plax left, because those steelers teams left us feeling more frustrated than rewarded. but this 2004-2008 group has been so easy to root for, both because of their success and for the way they’ve conducted themselves, that it sucks seeing them walk. larry foote wasn’t our best player, or even one of our best, but he was a big part of that success. and for that, we love him. unfortunately, as contracts expire and the reality of the business intervenes, we’re gonna spend a lot of time in the next few years writing our goodbyes to guys like larry foote. hopefully the players the FO plugs in for them will continue to bring us great success. still, as a fan base we’ve become attached to this special group of steelers and it’s hard to see them go.
i’ll pass the tissues now…
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Apr 29, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Foote will be remembered, time for someone else to eat
Guys, Foote will be remembered as a good football player who helped win championships. But you have to remember, he’s not a Tomlin guy. He is someone who Tomlin inherited. Tomlin wants his ILB’s to play 3 downs. Foote has never been a 3-down LB here because of Farrior. Now, the Steelers have a lot of flexibility because you never have to take Farrior or Timmons off the field.
What’s being a little lost is that Foote wants to prove that he is more than a 2-down LB. He’ll get that chance with another team. The Steelers will save $3M against their cap, K. Fox is the third starter now at ILB and the Steelers will groom a 4th ILB to play special teams this year and grow to eventually plug in when someone else (Farrior?) leaves in a couple of years. Trust me, the Steelers will be fine at LB.
As for Starks, the Steelers are going to have to guarantee him at least $15M to $18M as a starting point in contract discussions. That’s not crazy money for a starting LT in their prime. Whether we think he is worth the money or not is irrelevant. The Steelers do. And there aren’t a lot of options for young LTs out there who have two championship rings and whose best years are probably still ahead of him. They’ll get Starks signed, as well as deals with Heath, Big Snack and Kiesel by the end of training camp.
Not sure about Kiesel
A new deal for Kiesel after investing first-round money in Hood? I know Kiesel loves it here and can play another 3-4 years, but he’s going to have to take a pay cut for that to happen. Would be great if he does.
DaThruth didn't say we would extend him to a harrison deal
I think their is an slight possibility in re-signing Kiesel; but like you said it would really have to be a lower salary for a probably no more than 3 years….back-up type money.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Apr 29, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiesel's not going to get big money here
I don’t think he’s going to get a huge amount of money. I think he’ll get starter type money on a four-year deal. I think the Steelers know that they don’t have anyone who can come in and start next year if they lose Hampton and Kiesel. I think Ziggy might be ready to start by his third year, but I doubt if that’ll happen next year.
Kiesel hasn’t been what the Steelers thought he’d be, but he’s still a good football player. We’ll see how things shake out.
Ziggy will play this year
We may wait on Keisel’s contract to see how Ziggy is progressing. Remember that Ziggy will be rotating in on the DL this year, which means that he’ll be getting very valuable on-field time, which should have him ready to start for the 2010 season (or be extremely close, having gone through a second camp). I’m not sure Keisel will be able to hold him off any longer. I realize that Ziggy isn’t an exact replacement for Keisel, but Tomlin will put our best three out there, and with Brett’s contract running out, we may let him walk unless he takes a healthy pay cut.
I always liked Larry Foote!! Hope he stays
However, I also hope that if gone will go to a deserving team.
It was bother me that this was staying at 149
so, 150
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Apr 29, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
Am I too late?
I hope this thread isn’t dead. It seems that we are trying to get draft picks for Foote. I wrote a couple months ago that I’d like to get George Foster OT. That was before Detroit resigned him. Yeah, I know, people say he sucks. But he was a first round draft pick and he has a ton of experience with the zone blocking thing. When he was in Denver, he played every snap the year that they only allowed 15 sacks. He weighs 338. He’s gotta be an upgrade on the weak side. Anybody still reading? Whaddaya say?
Who knew?
I saw your post
on the Detroit site. Pittsburgh won’t want “False Start Foster”. Detroit would be foolish to pass up that trade. Foote is worth more than Foster. I know Foote is the odd man out in Pittsburgh as other talent has pushed him, but Detroit has absolutely nobody at MLB. He would be a starter from day 1. Of course, after going 0-16, you could probably start a punter at MLB and have improvement over last year.
thats what happens..
when you let your son and law coach your defense.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on May 1, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm in...
rather get something than nothing
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Apr 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Lose Larry? Idiot "thinking"
“I hope a deserving team gets Larry” Moron! Let’s play against a guy who knows what we do and how we do it! Brilliant. Can you say “Braindead?” Sure, I knew ya’ could. Did you watch Larry’s Super Bowl highlights? Unreal. The man was everywhere. “He can’t play three downs.” I’ll bet you can-NOT!
Before the idiot armchair analysts on these posts deliver their cough and comment nonsense, let me remind you that Larry Foote is a 2 time Super Bowl champion and a solid team LEADER on defense. You can’t draft that or replace it easily. The dynamic between the players on championship teams is special and worth preserving at all costs. Salary cap or other “business” considerations be damned.
For those of us who waited 10 years for the Steelers to get back to Super Bowl form, where they belong, was a long, painful wait. Let’s not kill the goose who lays the golden eggs, kids. Wake-up! Guys like Foote don’t grow on trees-let him stay in the “Burgh” a while longer.
Watched it
Only saw Foote in on two tackles and didn’t do much more. I saw Timmons make 4 tackles and forced Warner to make a crucial error I’m sure you remember. Farrior is the leader on defense. Without Foote there will be no shortage of leaders. You are correct people don’t grow on trees, but it’s the nature of the beast. No knock on Foote I agree he’s solid, but you have a young stud 1st round draft pick and being so tight to the cap, Foote is making too much to be a backup. I will give you this though it would hurt is Timmons got injured and we didn’t have Foote there to fill in.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
As good as he still is
Hes now expendable. We still have a tonne of LBs on the roster who are capable
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by Michael Hewitt on Apr 30, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention this is doing right by Larry. This is the Steelers MO. A player that has been put in their time that wants out? So long as we have a replacement, let him out. He deserves another starter contract and the time for him to get it is now with this many teams wanting to play a 3-4.
by Chicago Steeler on Apr 30, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think K. Fox will fill in great!
The only time he has gotten to really play linebacker was for the cheifs in 2006.
He started 4 games that season and had 1 sack and 43 tackles, with all but 8 being solo tackles.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Apr 30, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Always the idiot armchair analyst you are pixburgh. Braindead.
Don't worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
That was mean
:(
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
by PixburghArn on Apr 30, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Don’t worry about the haters. Haters only hate.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
by PixburghArn on Apr 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
World Wide Leader in Rumors
i really respect the fact that even though those BTSC was only relaying other info, they still wrote a retraction.
unlike espn (who broke the story) just changed the title of their article and edited it to make it look like it never happened. this isnt the first time either.

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