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IX- A.Q. Shipley is planning to formally request the currently unused number 52 at this weeks mini-camps.  The number was worn by hall of famer Mike Webster who passed away in 2002 from a heart attack.  Shipley played High School football in Moon Township with Webster's son, Garrett.  If T-rex Shipley is able to secure a spot on the Steelers' roster and can contribute, his story screams its own Hollywood movie.

X- A little fun on this sleepy Friday afternoon, those of you who think you can do better on the "Wonderlic test" than current NFL players have your chance to prove it. Also, here's another link to an explanation of what the wonderlic is and some famous NFL player's scores.  If you are wondering what our draft picks scored on their wonderlic's check The Steelyard for the answer.  Hopefully we all beat Vince Young!

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XIII-In the annual meeting in March  "owners approved the right of teams to change or eliminate the payments they make to 401(k) and pension plans for employees, including coaches."  This might not seem like a big deal to the casual NFL fan, but it is another part of a transition the NFL is going through while trying to negotatiate a new collective bargaining agreement.  All aspects of the organization are being effected by this, not just players salaries. 

XIV- Former Michigan "Wolverine" and current Steelers' stud, Lamar Woodley attended the premier of the newest installment in the X-Men Series, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".  At the premier Woodley stopped to pose with Hugh Jackman and show off his wolverine tattoo.  Woodley is just starting to break into the consciousness of NFL fans and with his personality and connections perhaps he could become one of the few who become stars outside of the NFL.

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XL-Hines Ward & Ryan Clark sat out of mini-camp today due to lingering injuries from last season, and Larry Foote didn't participate due to the issues with his inevitable release from the team, according to Steelers Depot.  The only player that didn't participate without explanation is Wide-Out Martin Nance who is competing for a spot as the teams fourth or fifth wide out.

XLIII-PSAMP says the Browns Suck.

 

 

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Shipley…..nothing like putting a little extra pressure on yourself. I thought the guy was supposed to be SMART……which takes us to the Wonderlic…

..correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like the Steelers drafted two guys with “above average intelligence”, three “unskilled workers”, three “morons”, and Frank Summers…..which brings up the question…..

….is there a category below moron? Maybe that’s where Tank’s scores are hidden.

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm

Don’t be a hater! We didn’t draft Summers for his wonderlic, his SATs or his grade in 9th grade algebra. We picked the guy because he likes to run people over on offense and special teams.

by SteelerBuddha on May 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naah…they drafted Summers for entertainment value, and I’m going to get mine!

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Entertainment

Wasn’t watching him kick-off and make a tackle enough? Remember this guy could be punting for us if robopunter goes down.

by SteelerBuddha on May 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since he can’t justify the Tomlin hate anymore he has to pick someone else.

by worldtrip on May 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friday mindlessness

Ahhh…perhaps the most eagerly awaited duel of the offseason….

RE vs Worltrip……

Who will emerge from the cauldron of fire to claim the immortal title of Master of Sarcasm…

Layeth the smacketh down ye fiends!

by SCSteeler on May 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

first things first

I’d love to see T-Rex become Webby 2.0, but in my opinion he’s got to honor the number with his play before the number honors him.

by Alba on May 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Webster

While he was a hero on the field, websters post football life was pretty tragic. My guess is that interactions with Webster really had an impact on Shipley and he may feel this is a way of honoring the memory of the man. I would take it as a good thing. Let’s hope t-Rex becomes half the mauler Webster was.

by SteelerBuddha on May 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's definitely a bold move asking for that number

I took Lolley’s suggestion, and watched the USC-Penn State game just now, every offensive snap. He looked darn good – never saw him get beat, always knew what was going on, got downfield a lot to block. Even ran down Malaluga and tackled him after an interception. I don’t know how well that translates to the NFL and monsters like Ngata/Rodgers, but Shipley sure wasn’t the reason Penn State lost the Rose Bowl…

by acrollet on May 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderlic

8 of 10, just because I didnt have time for the last two and didnt answer them! Is so easy, How they score less than 20?

by SteelerBrazil on May 1, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Wonderluc

In all fairness these guys would probably be as amused by our assorted 40 times and 225 bench reps as we are by their wonderlic scores.

by SteelerBuddha on May 1, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

…just because they didn’t have time for the last 32 and didn’t answer them.

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

...don't rag on Vince...

…any fool can see that an elephant is bigger than the moon.

Go to Africa, find some elephants, wait till nightfall, then compare the elephant and the moon.

Who’s the moron, hey?

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

for once I agree with Robert Ethan

I mean, the moons only big enough to house a man…………..an elephant can at least fit 2 and a midget in his back.

by shleeve on May 2, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s an awesome (and terrible) picture of VY. I’ve been chucking at it now for like 15 minutes.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on May 1, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Major Adams (VY’s agent): Hey son, furrow your brow and purse your lips so you look thoughtful and not retarded.

I like this explanation of the infamous 6/50: “Some observers believed this score would lower Young’s draft selection and faulted his agent, Major Adams, for not preparing Young ahead of time with practice tests.” (from wiki).

I also like how they readministered the test the next day and he still managed to only get a 16? Were they the same questions?

by HoustonPA on May 1, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently...

a 10 means you’re literate.

by HoustonPA on May 1, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose everyone is being too hard on him...

there may have been a butterfly or pinwheel in the room that distracted him during the examination.

by HoustonPA on May 1, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

hilarous

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on May 1, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wolverine

Is Huge Ackman’s middle finger tucking itself away after the actor got a look at Lamar Woodley’s arm? Dang, that’s some serious muscle! Give Woodley an adamantium skeleton and he’d make a better Wolverine.

by Alba on May 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

…I think the boys are just being “street”….aren’t those gang signs?

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think...

the three fingers held out like that is supposed to symbolize Wolverine’s 3 claws (talons? shredders?)…

it looks like woodley’s doing it too.

by HoustonPA on May 1, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

..or Jackman is giving the tatoo a 3 out of 5 rating. But then again, that might cause Woodley to crush his head between his forearm and his bicep.

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

PSAMP

is correct. Next question?

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on May 1, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In defense………..the NFL draft site did include a warning on Tank’s profile that he “might have trouble with certain playbooks”. Like ones that have written instructions and diagrams in them, probably. Or the Oakland Raider’s. They didn’t seem to find it necessary to issue such a warning on the profiles of Joe Burnett (9, 12), or Keenan Lewis (10,14), among others. So, what’s a fella to think?

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

There is no doubt he did not get any joy out of Holmes touchdown catch, being that he stated before the game that he was cheering for Arizona.

by worldtrip on May 1, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whaaaaaaaaa????

Missed that. Move me into the Worldtrip camp for the Sarcasm championship. (please forgive these ramblings, but the vino calypso has made its way to the cerebellum, alas)

Seriously though, really Robert…..honestly…..Cardinals?

Tut tut.

by SCSteeler on May 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Thanks for the reminder Trip. I thought he had just been sitting on the fence, cheering for both but relying on racial profiling to come up with the team more deserving of his support.

by steeler.lifer on May 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Wonderlic Test....

Two minutes to take that practice test was not a lot of time, but I was able to answer all 7 of the ones I attempted correctly out of 10, so I ended up with a Score of 35

25 is the average score for quarterbacks and offensive linemen. Other positions average about a 20.

by Steeler Y360 Nation on May 1, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, it’s the topic of discussion du jour, lifer. I have no more than a morbid curiousity about the scores. I was one of the only people questioning whether they should be released when Vince Young was catching all that crap. Especially when they can’t be verified. Anyone could go online a couple days after the draft and post a bunch of random scores just for fun, and within a couple more days they would be all over the internet as gospel. Even on the verifiable scores, some individuals scores are obviously the result of being coached, and even more likely the result of having access to copies of the test beforehand. When there are millions of dollars riding on the combine tests, and the prospects spend several months and perhaps a hundred thousand dollars training for the physical tests, you can be sure a little time and money is spent to see that they don’t embarass themselves on the intellectual tests. Well, in most cases anyhow.

by robert ethan on May 1, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Save the justification

The thread began with your post and your speculation that Summers might fit below “moron”. You’re entitled to your opinion on anything and the predictability of your negativity is humorous at times. Try to contribute!!! Your wonderlic score suggests you can do much better. Cheers!

by steeler.lifer on May 1, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That was an explanation....

…not a “justification”.

Lifer, I think you need to ask the screws if you can get more time out there in “the yard”. Some fresh air and sunshine. Maybe a little exercise.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Blitz, I thought you were “working on the books”. The place works better without you.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

You can criticize Tomlin, but start on Blitz, and that’s just crossing the line.

You think you’re the pope of chilitown. Somebody get me some insanity peppers!

by worldtrip on May 2, 2009 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Troll

Quit being so masungit.

by Alba on May 2, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can get away with a lot of stupidity around here

but to take sides against the Steelers in the Superbowl, and then call out Blitz on his blog?

You sir are a moron.

To pick the cardinals over the Steelers in the Superbowl? Really? You might as well get a new alias and then we can at least have a few weeks of enjoyment calling it out. You have no business enjoying the reign of the champions. It’s not for you.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on May 2, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why did you come back RE? This place definitely ran better without you.

by Chicago Steeler on May 2, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

he’s not all bad – it is good getting some alternate viewpoints on here, even if some of them are “Whiz is a better coach than Tomlin even though he just got beat head-to-head”….

by acrollet on May 2, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Summers has dyslexia

I live in Nor Cal now, and a local paper had an article on The Tank. He’s a Skyline High product (as are Marvel Smith and Will Blackwell), and he is dyslexic. So that’s the reason for him taking a little longer to get the play book.

Seems to me, RE, that a moron is some one who doesn’t do his homework before flapping his lip, even in a blog. Feel better about yourself now?

by VinniePie on May 2, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

..well, I tried to read the article, Vinnie, but all the letters and words seemed backwards and jumbled. Don’t know what’s wrong with me.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

…the next time the playbook calls for Tank to block the left end and he ends up running into Heath Miller while they’re both moving out on the right end, are you going to give him a pass on account of his dyslexia?

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh Oh

Someone’s in a bad mood today…….

by VinniePie on May 2, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

..I just don’t see it as being “cruel” to Summers to bring up the point that he may have trouble with a crucial aspect of the job he is hoping to fill. If you go in for eye surgery and realize the surgeon has Parkinson’s Disease, would you keep quiet because you didn’t want to hurt his feelings?

Every “learning disability” has a biological cause if you get down to it. If you run your beater into a bridge abuttment coming home from the bar, because you had a coughing fit and spit your cigarette butt onto your lap where it was burning a hole in the synthetic material of the trousers you picked up at the Goodwill store, there is a pretty decent chance the same sort of thing happened to your Dad back in the day. Not saying…but I’m just saying..

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

man

could we just go back to talking football? You sound awfully close to saying that poor == stupid, and it’s ironic on how it reflects on you…

by acrollet on May 2, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you may be missing RE

….is that intelligence is comprised of many different types of things. For example – some people may be quite good at solving math problems but are not at all aware of other people’s emotions. They get great scores on tests, but they are constantly missing the emotional sub-text of human interaction.

You for example have a keen intelligence for being contrarian. Frank Summers has great physical intelligence. There are some things you could do much better than him (take tests, write silly smack on blogs) and others he could do quite a bit better than you.

by SteelerBuddha on May 2, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

…you’ve obviously never seen me shake off would be tacklers or stand up a 300 pound lineman, Buddha, to make a ridiculous statement like that.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

..no, if someone is really poor, they aren’t driving a car, going to the bar, or smoking cigarettes. In most parts of the world.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

You may be right about cars

…but you are wrong about alcohol and cigarettes. Poor people smoke and drink all around the world.

by SteelerBuddha on May 2, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why I like Mike...

http://mississippi.scout.com/a.z?s=177&p=2&c=770465&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fmississippi.scout.com%2f2%2f770465.html

He came through college football purgatory (Ole Miss had 9 wins in his first 3 seasons) didn’t get down or complain, and ultimately reached the top. Through the last 7 games of his college career, Mike scored 9 touchdowns, and averaged about 100 yards per game receiving. He completely outclassed Michael Crabtree at the Cotton Bowl, and went on to score the winning TD at the Senior Bowl despite being a late addition. When he talks about coaches and other players he doesn’t blame or disrespect anyone, but just says that the current ones are the best, while giving credit to the ones who aren’t around anymore.

by robert ethan on May 2, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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