Well I will be the first to say that if this were true I would be totally appalled. I was also shocked that someone like Ben Roethlisberger would do something like this.

 Indeed, I think as a young man we can expect him to pursue women, but certainly not like this. I am a big fan of Big Ben and to me he has never come across as someone crass and irresponsible with people. Certainly himself and his motorcycling accident(but a young man flush with cash and on top of the world…things like this can happen). Also, I know there are pictures with him and drunk girls…but I got pictures to with myself. Lol.

However, there is some more information that may indeed shed light on what happened, and who we are dealing with.

Here is SOME INFORMATION:
There is also the question of the psychiatric care the accuser is under.

Sources connected with the case say that a former co-worker of McNulty’s at Harrah’s came forward with the story that around the time McNulty hooked up with Roethlisberger, she was allegedly involved with a married man.

One who never existed.

The man’s wife created an email account, posing as a U.S. soldier in Iraq. The wife began corresponding with Andrea McNulty to gain information.

Her co-worker McNulty fell in love with this fictitious soldier and began telling people they were engaged. When the correspondence stopped, Andrea McNulty then began telling people the soldier was killed in action.

According to TMZ, McNulty told at least one co-worker she began seeing a psychiatrist because of the phantom soldier and not because of Ben.

Is this info legit…no one knows. What we do know is that this will come out in the open in the near future.

Also, here’s the full link:
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/07/andrea-mcnulty-ben-roethlisberger-sexual-assault-lawsuit-details-emerge/

sorry, the phrase I wrote above
Is this info legit…no one knows. What we do know is that this will come out in the open in the near future.

Is entirely MINE.

I dont want him to settle out of court cause then we’ll just have Ravens fans calling our QB a rapist.

I’d like to see this go quickly. Get in court, get proven innocent ideally, and get out. Fast. And move right along with life. And then countersue this chick for slander.

I do not see any bias in your post, Rothlisberger is known as a class act, except don’t ride a motorcycle with him…
Sorry, had to say it…

Considering all the co-defenants (other than Ben) are former co-employees of the plaintiff suggests the plaintiff will claim they 1) exerted pressure on her to not file charges against a valued customer, or 2) they conspired to cover up the event by destoying evidence (videos), or 3) they somehow colluding against her to undermine her claims.

On the surface, such a "they’re all out to get me" claim depicts the plaintiff as being mental. On the other hand, A civil complaint against so many defendents pertaining to a single event must involve so many verifiable details that make the truth of the plaintiff’s claims manifest, or the whole thing falls apart. Therefore this woman is either very foolish, an artful schemer, or exactly what she claims to be.

Also considering the number of defendants and their connection to Harrahs, I suspect she told her co-workers that Ben raped her (whether they had sex, and whether the sex was consentual was known only to themselves). Therefore she may be able to develop a case of harrassment and/or conspiracy against her co-workers to suppress her accusations, but that would prove nothing concerning what may have transpired between her and Ben.

If he acted as she claims in her suit, he deserves to be exposed and to pay accordingly (because after all, the point of a civil suit is money). If he did nothing sexually improper – but the case against her co-workers cannot be shown to be groundless – Ben’s character may remain besmirched in the eyes or the public.

I am 100% with you on this one. Let’s hope that one way or another justice is done here. Either this woman is publicly acknowledged as a liar, or if Ben is guilty, my hope is he’ll be treated like any regular person who did this. I also have doubts to her claims, but will not write them off either. When the evidence is shown, the facts will be clear, and at that the truth will be uncovered.

If the plaintiff fails to show a clear connection between the actions of the other defendants and her claims about Ben, her accusations against him would seem even weaker.

Really, I have seen pictures of the chick and she is a Skank.

I also find it odd that she took a year to come forward with this. Why so long? What happened?

Also, there are claims that she had psychiatric issues.

Another thing…why does Ben need to rape a woman? This guy can get all the hookers he needs. Also, people tend to forget that rape isn’t something thats particularly attractive to majority of men. Vast majority who are rapists specifically get off on the power of taking over a women against her will…its not even the sexual act.

If Ben indeed did this, there should be some evidence that other women faced this with him to a certain extent. Its also possible this is the first but I just don’t see it that way.

There’s a reason why most rapists are ‘serial’.

there had been any sexual misconduct on Ben’s part there would be a preponderance of evidence against him. The fact that:

A. She’s waited over a year

B. Waited until just before training camp to file

C. filed NO criminal charges

and

D. is naming, specifically “employees of Harrah’s”

 Indicates that she is covering all her bases in regards to eliminating any possibility of incriminating herself as well as laying the foundations for potential big-money settlements by Ben AND Harrah’s. I’d also like to see those videos of her leaving his room- does she look like someone who’d just been attacked? Or is she smiling?

 IF she was really assaulted there would criminal charges against him, AND the other co-workers. Period. Even after this much time has passed her story should hold up to police scrutiny IF IT’S TRUE. But if she’s lying she wouldn’t want to open herself to charges of filing a false report. And- Ben should counter-sue her for libel or slander(whichever’s most applicable).

 And i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to discover that she has immediate family in, or other ties to, the New England area…..

 BULLSH*T.

And if i’m wrong- Ben should be charged criminally, not just sued for money. But- he didn’t do anything IMHO. Sadly, this will forever be attached to his name. What a sad, sick world.

Jerome Bettis was accused of some kind of nonsense at one point too, if i recall.

Unless factual evidence can somehow prove the truth of the allegations concerning Ben’s actions in his bedroom, this case may boil down to his word against hers. Therefore the details of her allegations (concerning Ben) may be crucial.

For example, prior to the purported rape, Ben supposedly had another young lady in his room for twenty minutes before walking her to the elevator. Apparently he suppressed his volcanic lust with this woman…but lost control after glimpsing the plaintiff. Thus it might be interesting if Ben’s lawyer’s (or the plaintiff’s) can produce the other woman to attest to his behavior prior to the alleged attack.

Supposedly, immediately after ridding himself of the other woman, Ben called the plaintiff repeatedly to complain about a non-existent problem with his TV, insisting that she inspect the trouble in person. These calls and his insistence could certainly be construed as odd behavior. Might not a reasonably attractive young woman in a professional setting consider taking a co-worker along before acceeding to the request? If she made no such attempt, could it be that the encounter (if one occurred) was consentual?

I do not suggest these things happened or not, or if they did, that the woman was to blame. However, in lieu of factual evidence, surmises such as these are likely to sway whomever decides the outcome of the case.

she says so….doesn’t mean it’s TRUE.

Jeez…..why are so many people so anxious to defend her? Politically-correct much? As it is, she is nothing more than an ACCUSER at this point. This girl doesn’t qualify as a victim, because she’s presented NOTHING other than a statement regarding this ALLEGED incident.

What has Ben EVER done to imply that he might be capable of this? Why would anyone here want to take her side already? Just to prove how socially-darned-conscious he is?

 Bah.

Anyone can file a civil suit against anyone else for anything at the low, low cost of a couple hundred bucks. It a win/win for the accuser, who gets publicity, sympathy, attention and maybe even a LOT of money(if the accusation is horrible enough) and a lose/lose for the accused, who never really lives down the suspicions that maybe they "got away with it".

Since civil suits have no penalty for false accusations i could accuse Tom Brady of licking my ass-crack without my consent six years ago, and sue him in court for seven TRILLION dollars without fear of losing the case….

This girl is a whack-job who is probably more interested in all the attention this gets her than even getting any money out of the deal- which is pretty scary, because she might be a really good liar who can cry on demand.

Anyway- she wasn’t raped, because NO amount of mere money softens the effects of rape. Only payback in the form of jail time with the possibility of cell-block-lovin’ makes it better. So- if she ain’t filing CRIMINAL charges, she lying. Period.

This allegedly happened in July 08 at Lake Tahoe. On NFL.com there is a video of Big Ben reporting in from Lake Tahoe 7/16/09, and this law suit per the pdf was filed on 7/17/09.

I don’t really have an opinion on this until this unfolds through the proper channels, but it does make me feel sad. If it true I am disgusted. If it is false I am disgusted. Another person from the “Jerry Springer generation” trying to get famous and earn a quick buck.

This is pretty worrisome.

And to those of you saying that this can’t be true because ben can get it whenever he wants, or because she didn’t go to the police right away, you just sound like ignorant Neanderthals.

Does anyone bother to read the ACTUAL FACTS.

to the above jerk who posted a picture of BEN AND SOME CHIC…

I have A LOT OF PICTURES of me drunk with girls. DOES THAT MAKE ME A BAD GUY? Are you serious? Dude…you really should be banned for inciting such nonsense. You’re the jerk here.

Also,

1. THERE IS ALLEGED HISTORY OF PSYCHIATRIC ISSUES WITH THIS WOMAN.

2. she decided to go up BY HERSELF. to get the tv fixed after he called because NOONE ELSE was available. SHE DECIDED TO GO BY HERSELF. He did not con her to go up there..or say hey I want you to personally come up.

3. Really…why would Ben rape her? What reasons does he have? Do any of you know what Rape is about? Why rapes occur? The vast majority are perpetrated by individuals who actually ENJOY the act of HURTING women. Not the actual sexual act.

It is possible that Ben is sooooooooo used to getting what he wants that somehow when she said no he forced himself on her and decided to rape her….thats certainly conceivable.

But seriously guys….don’t scumbag the guy or even the girl. Its not fair to anyone. And it certainly hurts all of his fans and even her familiy/her who may come across this.

thats what you do getting payed 28 million
i would

not

dude…thats pretty weird…almost as if you dont really understand what rape and especially alcohol is about.

When you’re drunk sometimes you have no control over your actions. Just saying no can be enough. Indeed, unless you’re with a girlfriend and can be absolutely sure that her no doesnt really mean no….I would most certainly say that if a girl says no then its no.
Otherwise it is rape…

http://www.rgj.com/assets/pdf/J7138957721.PDF
a couple of observations about her claims
1) She did handle the situation poorly by not going to the authorities immediately & instead depended on the hotel to handle the situation. she claims she went to the hotel security head about the situation the day afterward she expected them to take care of it and begin and investigation. about a month later, she claims it was stressed to her that she would probably be fired from her job if she went to the authorities and hurt ben’s reputation. She also claims that the hotel administrators made up the claims about the fake soldier to explain her depression to her parents, which the woman wouldn’t tell her parents why she was depressed.

2) She had many visits with medical professionals that diagnosed her as dealing with depression. I think they could be asked to testify to see why they felt she was depressed. They may be able to shed light on whether she spoke of this fictitious soldier or this roethlisberger incident.

this is just my guess, but i have a feeling this will turn into a situation of whether it was sexual assault or one where the girl regrets her actions the day afterward & were consensual at the time

all so much worthless nonsense.

Ben is guilty of nothing. Period. Nada. Zero.

“Accusation” is nothing more or less than a claim.

Why so many people who claim to be Steelers fans are already so totally sympathetic to a girl who very likely could be lying to get attention or money is totally beyond me. Just because a woman or girl you know was raped(or claims to have been) DOES NOT make Ben guilty. Geesh….

Some women thrive on playing the role of The Victim. Everything about this situation implies that she is one of those women. NOTHING she has said or done supports her allegations in the least.

Jerome Bettis was accused of something similar a few years ago and it was proved to be baseless.

How will the turncoats and finger-pointers feel WHEN Ben is cleared of all this?

…ditto on your take!

I noticed Ben’s lawyer said, “My client never sexually assaulted anyone.” He did NOT say, “My client never had sex with Andrea McNulty.” It’s only a shot it the dark (as is 90% of this thread) but I suspect the allegations have a measure of truth. For example, if any well-off celebrity just had sex with a virtual stranger and that person started mentioning hidden cameras, it’s possible the celebrity might pop a cork and evict their recent ‘lover.’ In turn, how would the evicted party react…especially if they thought the encounter might lead to a long term relationship or hoped from the outset to turn it into cash?

Does anyone know whether lie detector results are admissible in NV civil or criminal court? As others have suggested, there’s a reason why this suit was filed within days of the one year aniversary of the event (and no criminal charges were sought). Learn the truth behind these inconsistencies and you’ll understand the reality here…and BTW, I’ve personally known and grieved with two wonderful ladies who’ve been subjected to rape by human beasts. If Ben is guilty of these charges, then he’s a first class S.O.B. If he is NOT, his accuser is no less disgusting.

This is not “about” male attitudes towards woman and rape. Nor is it about gold-digging women out to defame and rob naive jocks whose guilt lay in thinking with the head nature intended for other uses. It’s about allegations that may or may not be true (either in part or completely), regarding one man, one woman, and one event. Regardless of the outcome, I hope the truth emerges and justice is served.

Working on 7 asks if lie detector tests are admissible as evidence in civil or criminal court in Nevada. The answer is no. Nor can the results of those tests be even referred to in testimony. (If a defendant says offhand, “I passed the lie detector test,” that remark is stricken from the testimony.)

As to his comment, "I noticed Ben’s lawyer said, "My client never sexually assaulted anyone." He did NOT say, "My client never had sex with Andrea McNulty.": NOR SHOULD HE – AS A LAWYER – HAVE GONE ONE INCH BEYOND WHAT SHE CLAIMS IN HER SUIT. I would not read anything what he didn’t say. He flatly denied her specific claim without opening any other avenue. If someone accuses your client of X, you deny X and say no more.

Does anyone know anything about the law firm this woman has hired? I know that Dunlap and Laxalt has been representing the Governor’s wife in the extremely messy divorce case of Gibbons v Gibbons. That case also involves casinos, cameras, and god only knows what else. It’s very public, and very scandalous, even by Nevada standards.

And the Laxalt in the firm is Monique (Nicki) Laxalt, the daughter of a beloved Navada writer and the niece of the late Senator Paul Laxalt. Paul Laxalt was perhaps Ronald Reagan’s closest friend in Washington. I assume they are a firm of some reputation and substance out there in Nevada, although those qualities can be hard to find in a state where gambling and prostitution are major legal industries.

As to Maryrose’s comment about the William Kennedy Smith/Patricia Bowman case in Palm Beach, I kept a faxed copy of the police report in my desk for at least a decade. The reason was because the investigating officer states in the report that he was lied to about the whereabouts of the Senator when he came to the front door of the Kennedy home, and therefore was unable to question Ted at that time. He was told by the household employee answering the door that Ted had gone back to Washington. In fact, the police detective reports, Ted left the next day. One might infer that the Hon. Kennedy didn’t want to talk until everybody got their facts straight. Or so it might seem.
I’ve never felt sorry for William Kennedy Smith after reading the report. But that’s another issue for another day.

I’m probably done talking about the case itself. I feel how I feel, I want to wait and see. But this case doesnt seem like it holds water too well. However I could be wrong.

But now I’d like to focus on Ben’s rep. My observations from user comments in yahoo pages, PFT pages, ESPN pages, etc… all see to be backing Roethlisberger. And not even from all Steelers fans. Most people nowadays are starting to see these types of lawsuits more and more often. And given that this woman is following the classic “golddigger” pattern, people seem to have quickly gone against her side.

This is good to me. I dont want Ben’s name brought down, unless its proven true somehow. I’m glad to see that they haven’t all jumped on Roethlisberger and immediately beheaded him.

The alleged victim is in it for the $$$. Ben Roethlisberger does not have to rape any woman regardless of the color,creed or background. He is a successful NFL Player,has a boatload of $$$ and he can pick and choose the type of woman he wants.

I like what SteelerBhudda has written. But I also want to point out a few things people don’t seem to have mentioned…

I will first disclose that while I am biased in favor of Ben, it is more because of the moral disgust and outrage I will feel for having supported someone all these years should he end up being convicted. In addition, I will also feel incredibly sad for this woman, not because I know her, but because of the media frenzy and the fact that a face has been put to the story.

We always hear about rape and murder, but more often than not it is a statistic, a faceless issue that comes quickly on the news and then passes away. This story is different, and in that sense, it frightens me and saddens me.

I am frightened that such seemingly trustworthy people could potentially do harm and I am saddened that I may end up having my own values and ‘bubble’ of security shattered. Who wouldn’t feel uncomfortable after knowing that someone they may have looked up to or admired turns out to be a deplorable person?

That being said, I do have some issues with the case. This woman seems to have covered her bases very well.

ONE.

She claims she did not go to the cops because she felt she would lose her job. As many have said, women dont go to the cops out of fear that they won’t be believed or the pain will be exacerbated. If that is the case, why would she then inform the Harrah’s employees immediately?

Employers CANNOT FIRE an employee because of rape allegations no matter how frivolous sounding. In any case, in order to further her claim she could have gathered far more evidence. Which begs the question, why did she not get a rape kit? A hospital is required to follow the wishes of a patient due to confidentiality laws. had she had a rape kit done no one needed to know least of all the cops. She could have easily then informed her bosses of the situation. And then gone to the cops.

TWO.

It is very important that information and evidence, such as photographs of the two together, or personal letters regarding the case be presented to the court of law should she wish to pursue a rape charge. How convinient does it seem that whatever evidence she did have was systematically removed by employee security personnel who entered her home and then decided to remove all of the data. This way there is no need for her to present the data to the court. Indeed, all her lawyers need to claim is that such evidence may have existed, to place in the minds of the public that the evidence was there. A sort of rabbit’s foot. Not really there, but just enough in our minds to cast doubt on the plaintiff.

THREE.

Everyone has gotten on the bandwagon about the one year issue. Sure she waited a year, but more importantly why did she decide to give the Harrahs Employee the key to her home?

The actual document states that several months after the situation blew up and after she had seeked psychiatric treatment because she felt that the employees HAD NOT HELPED HER IN ANYWAY AT ALL AND HAD ALREADY THREATENED, INTIMIDATED, AND HUMILIATED HER due to the situation she still TRUSTED the harrahs employee with her key and because he wanted to be her friend?

Also apparantly he had already gained the trust of her family by making LIES about the situation about her having lost communication with someone else. He basically told the family that was why she was depressed(making no mention of Ben). did her family NOT DISCUSS THIS with her? Did she basically not hear about these ALLEGED LIES told by the employee before she ENTRUSTED HIM with her key to the home?

A lot of what I read in the report is really fishy and makes me really concerned about what happened.