BTSC Steelers Daily Six Pack- Monday Evening Edition
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 27, 2009 5:21 PM EDT
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PrintIX- Am I just imagining it or has Santonio Holmes been the most vocal Steeler this offseason by a long shot? The Super Bowl XLIII MVP has more to say with the Tribune Review in a recent article. Holmes says he knows the Steelers offseason is run-oriented and that he has to make the best out of every opportunity that the is given in the Steelers "run-first" offense.
X-While the Steelers don't have too many holes to fill coming off their 6th Super Bowl championship they do head into training camp with at least a few questions. Yesterdays' edition of the Post Gazette ranks the top 5 questions the Steelers face heading into training camp that starts this week. My biggest questions is what will Rashard "Deliscious" Mendenhall contribute to the Steelers this season? What about you?
XIII-If you haven't heard; Michael Vick has been conditionally re-instated by the NFL. As of the now Vick is free to sign with any team, attend training camps, practices, and play in the last two preseason games. After the start of the regular season he will be evaluated for reinstatement by week 6 of the 2010 season. My Guess is he signs with the St. Louis Cardinals Rams and is their starting QB by the end of the season.
XIV-Ike Taylor is blazing fast, and I would have to think he is the fastest man on the team and probably the fastest man on a few NFL teams. Taylor ran a 4.26 40 yard dash just they other day at the Wide World of Sports Complex in Walt Disney World. If Taylor can exhibit the same type of play over the next few season he has to be considered one of our best draft steal of recent memory.
XL-Peter King concludes even if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, they would not be the team of the decade. (And yes, I realize team of the decade is a made-up award, not an actual one). He basically implies that the Steelers would need to have a undefeated type season to grab the throne of team of the decade.
XLIII-For those of you old enough to remember Nike is releasing two sneakers to honor Bo Jackson and his legendary status in video games like Tecmo Bowl. The one set of shoes is refereed to as the "Tecmo Bo" and features an 8 bit rendering of Jackson on the tongue of the shoe. For an idea on the true dominance that Bo Jackson had in the classic nintendo game Tecmo Bowl, check out this video below where Bo Jackson scores a 99 yard touchdown and eats an entire quarter off the clock.
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The most impressive thing about that video is not Bo Jackson, it is his 300 pound linemen that are able to sprint the field multiple times.
The only managing Ben does is that he manages to win games. - chewiesteeler
good point.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 27, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO, there’s a very good argument that Pittsburgh would be team of the decade if it came away with SB 44, but I won’t get into it, no point in fussing over it now (plus I don’t want to jinx the team). If our boys actually pull it out again this year, then there will be tons of these debates and I’ll be happy to revisit the question then.
I haven’t gone to the link showing the top 5 questions of summer camp, but I’m guessing one of them probably relates to the O-line. That one’s would have my vote as the most important. An impressive showing by Rashard would be great, but I’m not personally worried about that one as much because of the presence of Mewelde, he’s been almost everything we could want in a backup RB, and in some ways more reliable and consistent than Willie himself.
And I actually feel confidence in the O-line growing and improving. I’ve been watching Pittsburgh’s playoff games from last year on NFL channel reruns (yes, I do that), the big guys were still not perfect but had really gelled a lot more and were playing so much better in the post season.
Holmes
knows who the boss is. We all know who the boss is. If Tomlin’s OK with Holmes doing media pieces then I am. I mean, he did scrapple his way down the field once or twice in last year’s postseason, I suppose he’s entitled to run his yapper some.
Plus he’s a freak of nature and we’re lucky to have him. Have you seen him catch that ball and plant his feet on the slackline? (I’m sure someone can post a link…) I can sort of imagine that he and Tomlinator cooked that one up together, giggling over a fattie.
Those flickering sprites take me back.
The NES was a good system to grow up with. I’ll prolly introduce my kids to that before they get into all the ultra violence that is modern games.
Good call. Also, stay away from the genesis or they’ll be beating people with chains on motorcycles and think that football involves as “ref-bashing” play.
As a NES veteran you probably know that you’re going to be using three hundred tricks to get your games to work. Fortunately in the age of the internet you can find, buy, and replace the 72 pin connector and have effectively a brand new machine again.
The only managing Ben does is that he manages to win games. - chewiesteeler
peter king's argument is flawed
he does have some legit points and i agree the steelers have to win the super bowl to challenge the pats for the title of “greatest team of the decade.” but he looks some things the wrong way. let’s go by the assumption that team of the decade is based upon achievements. going by that here’s whats matters: playoff appearances, distance traveled in playoffs, division titles, conference titles, superbowl titles, and record WITH a grain of salt.
1) record WITH a grain of salt. if teams go into week 17 and have a bye locked up and play their 2nd string they shouldnt be penalized if they lose that game because it doesnt matter for them (see the titans & giants last year). granted this may only account for a few games over the course of 10 years, so it’d be best if you look at the avg regular season record. pats currently have 7.5 games on the steelers (which is almost a game a year avg better in regular season record). that’s significant. but say the steelers end up 3 games above the pats this year, it’ll be less than a half a game a year. nothing significant. in fact, the steelers have had a better record than the pats 6 outta the 9 years so far. if the steelers do it again, it’ll be 7 out of 10.
2) post season record: it doesn’t matter. a team that wins in the wildcard round, then loses in the divisional round shouldnt be rewarded anymore than one that got a bye and loses in the divisional round.
3) playoff appearances: 6 for each. this could fall in favor of the steelers if the pats dont make the playoffs and the steelers do.
4) distance traveled in each playoff appearance: since each team had 6 playoff appearances lets look at how they match up. Steelers: 2 SB wins, 2 afc championships, 1 divsional rd, 1 wildcard rd. Pats: 3 SB wins, 1 SB loss, 1 afc championship, 1 divisional loss. if we’d win the super bowl and the pats dont make the playoffs, we’d have an afc championship loss & a wildcard loss compared to the pats superbowl loss. not too much in favor for the pats. if the pats make the playoffs & the steelers win the super bowl, this will fall in the pats favor but not too terribly unless they make the conference championship.
5) division titles: 6 for pats, 5 for steelers. if the steelers win their division and the pats don’t they’ll be tied.
6) conference titles: 4 for pats, 2 for steelers. even if the steelers win the conference this year, they’ll have one less than the pats.
7)super bowl titles: 3 for pats, 2 for steelers. if we win this year, we’re tied.
8) footnotes: the steelers lost to the pats twice in afc championships during the decade. the pats are also 3-2 against the steelers during the regular season. the pats managed a 16-0 regular season record. if the steelers would win against the pats in the playoffs this year would help even things but this would still fall in the pats favor regardless.
things definitely currently favor the pats. but if the steelers were to win the superbowl things could fall in favor of the steelers depending on how bad the pats season is…but it wouldn’t have to be nearly as bad as what king claims
King is just angry that some team would dare interrupt the ickle Pats coronation
He’s been all over Prince Brady and the Pats for as long as I can remember
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
by LV Steelers Fan on Jul 27, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
how about adding...
several things in “8) footnotes”?
Like:
1. Pats beat Steelers in 2 AFC championship games because they cheated !!!
2. Pats won Superbowl against Rams because they videotaped their practice prior to SB.
i agree i should've listed the pats being caught cheating as one of the footnotes.
that definitely should weigh against them and in fact if things are kinda tied it should be the tie breaker. but there’s a difference between proven wrong and speculation.
1) the pats video taped team play calling signals & began the practice under bellicheck. 2001: the steelers had never played against the pats coached by bellichick before. 2004: the steelers had played the pats almost 3 months prior. so you may have a point, but lets remember that since Qb’s have head sets most of the illegal recording was of defensive signals. and 17 of the pats pts came from great field position due to turnovers from the steelers Off. and another 7 came from an interception. the rooney’s themselves said they feel the cheating done by the pats had no impact on the championship games.
2) according to a lot of sources, the pats never taped the rams practice prior to the SB. the only “source” claiming this was one the Boston Herald talked to and they never saw the video & retracted their claim once (i’m guessing) they found out there was no proof to back it up.
the only reason why no one wanted Pats proven to be cheaters...
… is so called INTEGRITY OF THE NFL, by which I mean MONEY! If someone proved them cheaters, NFL loses face as a league and consequently loses A LOT of money in TV coverage etc. etc.
You’ll notice that none of the articles on ESPN, etc. mention spygate as part of this comparison?
If the steelers win the superbowl next year, this isn’t going to change.
The only managing Ben does is that he manages to win games. - chewiesteeler
it may not be used in their comparison but it should be. nfl.com also listed the greatest franchises CURRENTLY (not of all time). and the guy didn’t even mention spygate as a negative either. seems to me, but if your organization was found to be knowingly cheating that should weigh against them pretty severely.
Hey, I’m not disagreeing here, but I’m just saying…it’s clearly not going to enter into any media discussions about the topic, so you might as well give up on it as a point of contention. If the media doesn’t talk about it, and anoints someone the team of the decade, thirty years from now that is what people are going to remember.
Winners write the history books, even if they leave out important facts.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
1) if we win THREE super bowls in the course of 5 years i dont see how we aren’t part of the "winner’s"section and can’t be involved in writing history.
2) no offense to you, but it’s disturbing in life whenever someone says “give up” because so-and-so says to. if we make stink about it (this is completely why i joined this site and cared enough to make a post i spent hours on and will continue to make posts i spend a lot of time on) then ppl will take notice. we’re from america and maybe you should remember what the New England team’s nickname is before you give up on things.
I think you have a very over-inflated view of yourself and what you are fighting for, but no offense.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
maybe i do
but what i meant by saying i put in time making my post or by me joining isn’t cuz i think i’m great, but this site is great & the respect i have for the site. it has by far the best, most intelligent discussions on here. not to mention it does gather some attention from more of a national level. articles written by the main ppl are linked on si.com & at least one topic has been referenced by the pittsburgh post gazette & USA today
King Is Writer For All Things
It never ceases to amaze me what King writes about let alone what he writes about the Steelers. You would think that he wo
by Steeldreamin on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
King Is A Writer Of All Things
It never ceases to amaze me what King writes about let alone what he rites about the Steelers You would threat he would focus on the NFL and the game thereof but no he must dabble in all subjects all of the time. He is opinionated and at the same time unoriginal. He runs with the cultural/sports theme of the moment. I put as much credence in his writing as I do in a fiction novel….it just an opinion.
In respect to the Steelers being in the running for the team of the decade with a repeat SB this year, he uses his data to diffuse such a notion but in reality he has drunk the Pats wine as many others have. It was brought up that he said Ben/Steelers would be distracted because of the civil suit, now that is really an original thought is it not, kind of like the one where Mortensen is saying that the Steelers are a possibility for Vick. They have to write something now don’t they……do they really know the Steelers, how they operate, who they and their fans are……
I believe King, like many other sports columnists, have to write to make a story, sell themselves and validate what they already have written. In other words King is definitely not an original writer and I could care less what he writes because he weaves so much BS into it.
by Steeldreamin on Jul 28, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You read it wrong.
Peter King was saying that Ben’s Law suit wouldn’t destract hin or the team.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Jul 28, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
For Ben to be distracted by the civil suit, he would have the mental capacity to be thinking of two things at once, which he doesn’t.
by Ben Stuplisberger on Jul 29, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
so beerman returns
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think “beerman” should just be a generic term on BTSC. I also think we should use it as an adjective and verb.
“Wow, someone got a little beermanned.”
“I think your post was a little too beermannish.”
The only managing Ben does is that he manages to win games. - chewiesteeler
funny
I was thinking the same thing as I was writing that…
anyone who has a nonsensical hatred toward Ben shall forever be referred to as a beerman on the boards of BTSC
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you get me
I don’t hate Ben at all, I think he’s a great qb!
But he didn’t get into the league with his SAT scores. He comes from a long tradition of not very smart quarterbacks that excelled, like Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw.
I would rather have big dumb Ben (but smart on the field), than super smart Eli (but dumb on the field) any day of the week.
We cool?
by Ben Stuplisberger on Jul 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
that’s a horse of a different color
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmy it seems to me you have pretty much validated what Peter King said. He said that the Steelers would have to probably win at least 14 games and the super bowl to be the team of the decade.
Everything you said in your posting talks about “If the Steelers have three more wins than the Pats”, or “if we win the super bowl”, or “we make the playoffs and the Pats don’t.”
All King said was that the Steelers would have to win lots of games, a few more than the Pats, and win the Super Bowl. All the same things you have said. And that is indeed a lot to ask. Possible? Sure. But the sun and the moon and the stars need to line up.
my first issue was that king may have stumbled upon the right answer but some of his methods in getting their were flawed
2nd) king said the pats would need to have an poor season (missing the playoffs & implying it may even have to be a losing season). obviously it would HELP the steelers and i mentioned that, but if the steelers were to beat the pats in the divisional rd of the playoffs while the steelers won 3 more games than the pats (a 13-3 versus a 10-6) and the steelers win their division while the pats dont and it’b be very close. and given the pats organization’s cheating incident i’d be inclined to give it to the steelers
well i have to disagree. this is what King wrote today regarding a reader asking why he didn’t put more emphasis on the pats cheating in his “team of the decade” decision:
Like I said yesterday, New England will be the team of the decade in my book unless the Pats collapse this year and the Steelers win a third Super Bowl.10-6 & making the playoffs is a far cry from 7-9 and not
I think it's safe to say...
that the Pats and Steelers both owned the shit out of the 2000’s. I don’t care who gets the “title,” I’m just thrilled to be a Steelers fan.
Team the decade. Who cares?
A couple thoughts, and yes I am a steeler fan.
1. Ignore Peter King. He makes money off your aggrivation. That’s why he writes this inane stuff, because he knows thousands of steeler fans will argue with thousands of pats fans
2. Until we beat the pats in the playoffs those two afc championship losses at home will haunt us and allow pats fans to gloat. Let them gloat. Then change the topic to their superbowl loss against the giants or to our two rings in four years.
3. I can’t stand people calling Andrea mcnulty a lying goldigger anyore than I can stand people calling Ben a rapist. Till you have real proof of either it’s better to shut your mouth and let it be. That goes doubly for sports writers.
by SteelerBuddha on Jul 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mancrush
Also keep in mind that Peter King has quite the bromance going on wth Tom Brady, if he GUsHES anYmore he might BURST into flames!!
Peter King's take on Big Ben situation
All, I though King’s take on Big Ben’s legal issue was more interesting than what he had to say about the team of the decade stuff. Here it is:
“Ben Roethlisberger Accused of Sexual Assault in a Civil Suit.‘’ I don’t know the truth. I don’t know if Roethlisberger knows Andrea McNulty or not. None of us do. But if I were Big Ben, I’d be sleeping pretty easy. How does McNulty, the woman making the charges, not go to the police, wait a day before telling a superior anything, not seek medical attention, never file a criminal complaint, then wait a year before filing a civil suit? How are we not supposed to think this is a money-grab?
I hate to fast-forward to reality in a serious case, but two other observations: It’s ridiculous for ESPN to not cover this story for two days because of the apparent flimsiness of it, seeing that it’s a civil suit and not a criminal one. When a lawsuit is filed in a courtroom somewhere in the United States of America involving the Super Bowl champion quarterback, it’s absolutely, positively news and must be reported.
Two: I don’t buy that this will be much of a distraction to Roethlisberger this summer, or to his team. The preponderance of evidence just isn’t there to make anyone think this is a serious issue for him."
Thoughts?
Walter Peyton Techmo Bowl or Bo Jackson TSB?
I prefer Peyton up the middle, break four tackles and outrun everyone else to the endzone. Of course I also prefer the Bears defense in that game.
Bo Jackson was broken, though. You couldn’t touch him if he got past the line.You could cover both outside runs with a good D, but if the player could run up the middle you were toast.
How bout the KC duo
Christian Okoye and Barry Word were a tough tag team. Okoye was a monster.
But if you got your distance right to force a diving tackle…and you timed it right…it always brought’em down.
by count'em_six on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s why I liked Peyton, he could dodge the dives and break tackles.
Bo you just had to run into, however that was impossible in many cases.
by Phantaskippy on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
oops my bad
meant rams
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jul 28, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah man, is this the Monday evening drinking-something-other-than-a-milkshake edition?
charity standing orders
He’s clearly been watching too much Natty Light in D.C..
The only managing Ben does is that he manages to win games. - chewiesteeler
Ahh, got it.
I don’t really see the Rams. They’re going to be so bad that Vick isn’t going to be the difference between making and not making the playoffs. And St. Louis is a fairly conservative town. I can’t see Rams ownership taking that PR hit in a 3-13 season.
We’re all just guessing but I’ll throw my guess in based on this criterion:
1. The team must believe that they are right on the brink of being a playoff or even Super Bowl team and that Vick may help get them over the top, which makes it worth all the controversy
2. The team must be creative offensively. They must be capable of using Vick in innovative ways that take advantage of his pure athleticism, like Wildcat formations.
3. This is a sensitive subject but I believe Vick must go to a team that has a significant african-american fanbase that may be more sympathetic to the idea that he’s paid his debt and deserves a chance to make a living.
Add it all up and my guess is the New Orleans Saints.
Payton is super creative, too creative for his own good sometimes. You put Brees, Vick, and Bush on the field together and you can run some crazy stuff. He’s potentially a good backup for Brees. Saints have been knocking on the door for a couple years and they may see Vick as a decent risk for not that much money. Also, New Orleans still has a huge black population and they play in a massive stadium and need to put butts in the seats.
That’s my guess. Now watch him sign with the Rams in like two days. :-)
by Steelers in XLIV on Jul 28, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you get me
I don’t hate Ben at all, I think he’s a great qb!
But he didn’t get into the league with his SAT scores. He comes from a long tradition of not very smart quarterbacks that excelled, like Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw.
I would rather have big dumb Ben (but smart on the field), than super smart Eli (but dumb on the field) any day of the week.
We cool?
by Ben Stuplisberger on Jul 29, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
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