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Pregame Zone Blitz: Cardinals at Steelers

I find myself swamped so let's turn it over to Neal to give us a little preview of tonight's preseason game between the Steelers and the Cardinals. Can you believe it? Football's back! - Blitz - (Michael B.)

Do preseason games matter? No. Are fans not anxiously awaiting kickoff for the Super Bowl XLIII Rematch Lite Thursday night in Pittsburgh? You bet.

Lots of storylines going into the game for both teams. Here's but a few for the Cardinals:

  • Darnell Dockett wanted an extension this off-season and didn't get it.
  • He's also becoming one of the league's most renowned Tweeters.
  • Coach Whisenhunt sounds off on the addition of former Steelers CB Bryant McFadden and how seldom-mentioned WR Jerheme Urban is doing.
  • Fans rave about rookie Beanie Wells, and though it's hard to fathom, how another former Steeler, Brian St. Pierre is pushing former Golden Boy Matt Leinart to the brink for the #2 gig behind Kurt Warner.

Here's the other news surrounding the Steelers and Cardinals heading in to Preseason Week No, 1:

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Opponent Spotlight: DT Darnell Dockett

"I set my goal. I said wanted to be the best defensive lineman on Super Bowl day and I was." – Darnell Dockett

We last saw Dockett taking RG Darnell Stapleton and C Justin Hartwig to school in Super Bowl XLIII. The fact his off-season request for a contract extension was denied after playing the game of his career in the game of the franchise’s history can be translated into a quiet shot at the generally perceived weak links of the Steelers offensive line.


Either way, Dockett’s two sacks and general disruption led to a dangerous lack of production in the second half of the Super Bowl. It really was only until the Steelers went out of the shotgun and the Cardinals played out of the nickel. Both will be on display in the preseason opener Thursday evening in Pittsburgh.

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Speaking of that…Dockett’s responsibilities out of the nickel aren’t the same as what he has out of their base 4-3, and the team flat-out does not perform with the extra defensive back on the field. The reason Tarvaris Jackson is still in the running to be a starting quarterback in the NFL is because of Arizona’s nickel defense (11-for-17, 163 yards, four touchdowns). Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie was the team’s nickel back, and one of the most under-reported aspects of the Super Bowl was his responsibility behind much of Santonio Holmes’ 131 yards and Super Bowl MVP.


Don’t take the touchdown catch away from him. That’s all about ‘Tone and the most beautiful pass Ben Roethlisberger has ever thrown.


The Cardinals are at their best out of their base, and Dockett is a big reason for that. While he Tweets  away despite the absence of a long-term contract, and even though this is a pre-season game, it’s a good early test (at least for a couple of plays) for the interior of the Steelers line. Focus on Dockett, and how much attention he receives.

Key Match-Up: WR Mike Wallace vs. CB Bryant McFadden

Cardinals Coach Ken Whisenhunt: "I just feel very good that we have a lot more depth at (the cornerback) position in general, not just because of 'B-Mac’ (Bryant McFadden) and Dominique (Rodgers-Cromartie), but the other guys, too. That's not something we've had in the past."


Wallace, the team’s third-round draft pick out of Mississippi, has drawn rave reviews during training camp thus far. It’s said that he’s competing for the No. 4 WR spot with veteran Shaun McDonald and second-year man Limas Sweed (with one taking the No. 3). Wallace is a compelling speed demon on the outside, and while he doesn’t possess the veteran savvy of McDonald or the fantastic size/speed combination of Sweed, he is a playmaker in every sense of the term.


McFadden signed a 2-year, $10 million contract to leave Pittsburgh for Arizona. Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt praises McFadden for his leadership ability and mental toughness. He will provide some depth on a pass defense that finished 22nd last season against the pass.


It will be interesting to see if Wallace gets any snaps with the first-team offense. But considering it’s preseason, perhaps it will be more interesting to see how the Heinz Field crowd reacts to hearing McFadden’s name again.

Last Game

"It's just another game. The Super Bowl's gone. We won it. We don't care about the rematch."
-CB Deshea Townsend

Not through any efforts to suck the marrow out of the re-match story, clearly, the pre-season opener is not the same as a Super Bowl.


It is a good opportunity to watch the game again, though.


Putting a more objective hat on during the re-watching of one of the best Super Bowls of all-time, what struck me is how razor-sharp Cardinals QB Kurt Warner really was. Yes, Larry Fitzgerald had a profound impact on the result, but Warner was the engine driving their comeback machine in the fourth quarter.


The Steelers were utterly dominant on their first possession of the game, and despite a very close overturn of a touchdown, they looked to be very much in charge early.


Even more credit to Warner, it almost seemed as if he was forced to drag his team, kicking and screaming, back into contention.


No one will ever forget the last time these two played, and no one should. It was truly a classic, and even if Thursday’s game means very little to two veteran-laden teams who prepare in the pre-season to establish depth more than anything, it envokes great memories for fans of both teams.

 

I See You

I see you, Ziggy Hood, for the excellent start to your career. Drafted in the first round out of Missouri, Evander-Ziggy has been noted for his work ethic after practice, in particular, working with veteran super-stud Aaron Smith after practice.


Four-time Pro Bowl nose tackle Casey Hampton, as outspoken as he is, mentioned how much talent Hood has, and could be playing himself into a situational role his rookie year – not something particularly common for a Steelers rookie.


Unnamed sources breathed their praise of Hood to Steel City Insider’s Jim Wexell early in camp, and plenty of eyes will be on him as he takes on a second-team defensive end position in the first preseason game.

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Opponent Web Sites/Forums

The East Valley Tribune is holding a forum for Cardinals fans to express their memories of Super Bowl XLIII – they’re classy and gracious, unlike certain fans of another NFC West Super Bowl Runner-up.

The Cardinals official forum voted on the battle between Matt Leinart and former Steelers QB Brian St. Pierre as the match-up they’re most excited to watch Thursday.


Coach Whisenhunt says WR Jerheme Urban is having as good a camp as anyone.


Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic blogs about the impact rookie Beanie Wells may have in comparison to incumbent running back Tim Hightower.

Revenge of the Birds couldn't decide on just Ten Things To Watch For Tonight so they did another ten.

 

Key Stats

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin is 7-2 in the preseason, and 2-0 in openers.

 

Quick Hitters

 

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EA Sports’ John Madden Football comes out Thursday, and probably not coincidentally, Steelers SS Troy Polamalu and Cardinals WR Larry Fitzgerald become the first two-player cover the game has had in its legendary existence.


C Justin Hartwig is injured, and Doug Legursky will get the nod at the first-team center job. That will give more reps to local favorite A.Q. Shipley, and perhaps a chance for newly signed Alex Stepanovich to prove his worth.


Chuck Finder of the Post-Gazette reported that actor Ving Rhames was on hand to watch some of the Steelers practices Tuesday.   Nice…ya think they referred to him as Diamond Dog from Con Air? There’s a great Awful Movie – Nicholas Cage as an action hero with a southern accent.

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I'm really looking forward to seeing

Sweed and Wallace, Mendenhall and Summers, and even the Redman kid. Also, I think Jim Wexell said Tomlin has said 4 QBs will get playing time tonight. I’m assuming that would mean, Ben, Charlie Batch, Dixon, and undrafted rookie Mike Reilly. Keep an eye on Reilly if he does in fact get on the field. They guy has drawn a lot of attention for being an undrafted kid, and apparently has a strong arm and quick release. I don’t think we’ll see him before the closing minutes of the 4th quarter, but I’m interested in seeing if the kid’s got any type of “diamond in the rough” qualities.

"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.

by HighSchoolSteeler on Aug 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

Ben drives for a 4 or 5 play TD on his first posession and sits. Then, 3 and out for the Cards, and Batch does the same thing Ben did. Then, 3 and out for the Cards, and it’s Dixons turn for a 2 min drill at the end of the 1st, which he scores a TD. Dixon finishes the half with a couple of nice scoring drives, and starts the 3rd with a nice TD drive, and we get to watch Reilly for nearly 2 whole quarters.

by SNW on Aug 13, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Final score

Steelers 70 Cards -0?

by Johnny_S on Aug 13, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Total yardage:
Pit – 625
Ari – 47

First Downs
Pit – 29
Ari – 1 (in garbage time)

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dockett

Good plan by Whis to not give the guy a big contract extension for playing well in one game. That was the only outstanding game he had all season and it came against one of the worst and poorly matched-up OL’s in the NFL. He’s a decent player, but nothing like a cornerstone to the defense. I hope Essex kicks his finesse rushing ass tonight.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?!?!

Dockett has a Pro Bowl under his belt, he recorded nine sacks from the DT spot in 2007 and he’s by far the best player on the Cardinals defensive line. Saying he’s had one good game is an absolute farce. The reason he got no consideration for a new contract is b/c he has THREE YEARS left on his current deal. Even the Steelers would tell a player to “stick it” if a player with three years started squawking about a new contract.

Oh and DD had a Super Bowl record three sacks.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swing and a miss

that was the only outstanding game he had all season

I bolded some words up there to help you. He said it was his only big game last season.

And he had a record 3 sacks against arguably the worst O-line in the league.

by Johnny_S on Aug 13, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure why that posted the title twice

by Johnny_S on Aug 13, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and you're basing that on what, your intimate knowledge of the Cardinals?

So you watched every game he played last year or are you just looking at the game logs?

He may not have had his best season but to say he only had one outstanding game is simply not true. Go back and watch the highlights of the Cowboys game. DD chased Romo all over the field, he recorded one sack and had a second sack/fumble resulting in a TD taken away by the infamous ‘tuck rule.’

You can’t judge a DT by simply looking at his boxscore. He made more game changing plays than anyone an the defense not named Dansby or Wilson.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have an intimate knowledge of the Cards

Nor do I want one. If you read carefully, the only argument I made is that his record in the SB was against a bad OL. I was just amused that he was talking about him only having one big game in ’08 and you went off on a rant about his ’07 numbers.

by Johnny_S on Aug 13, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said that Dockett wasn’t a cornerstone of a defense and that his “one big game” wasn’t a reason to ask for a new contract. The original author also hinted that he didn’t get a contract extension b/c the front office might have realized that Dockett’s SB performance wasn’t necessarily b/c he was great as much as it was b/c the Steelers OL is poor.

I was simply trying to prove that Dockett wasn’t just a spare guy who had one good game against a poor offensive line.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive the Steelers mentality. A cornerstone for our defense has to have HoF potential, or he’s not in the running.

Dockett wouldn’t be a cornerstone on our team, and we don’t like pass rushing DT’s here.

For your team he is great, here we would hate him. It’s just a different world.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swing and a miss

that was the only outstanding game he had all season

I bolded some words up there to help you. He said it was his only big game last season.

And he had a record 3 sacks against arguably the worst O-line in the league.

by Johnny_S on Aug 13, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've missed the trash talking.

Dockett is a bad matchup for our OL. Our OL is full of big oafs, and is the type of group that struggles more against athletic DT-DE hybrids like Eric Foster, Jason Jones, and Darnell Dockett than it does against All-World guys like Albert Haynesworth and Shaun Rogers. It’s no coincidence that he had one of his his best games of 2007 against us, too.

Dockett is a good pass rushing DT, although in my mind he’s a notch below guys like Haynesworth, Rogers, Tuck (if you count him), Kevin Williams, and Tommy Harris (when healthy). From what I’ve seen, he’s not an asset against he run unless he’s playing the Steelers and their asinine running scheme. He just had possibly the best game of his career in the biggest game of his life. He’s in the middle of what should be his prime years. His value is never going to be higher. And he has 3 years left on his deal. That would be just about the worst time to sign him to an extension.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea I've missed it too (can you tell).....thank God we've got real football to talk about finally

For the record, Pete Prisco (CBS Sports) listed DD as the 3rd best DT in the league and Jamie Dukes and Rod Woodson both listed him a ‘top 5’ DT.

And while I don’t have any way to prove that he’s a great run stuffer, his tackle stats (avg 52.3 over the past three seasons) are more than each and every guy that you listed.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, top 3, eh? That seems absurd to me that anyone would think that. Maybe top 10. This isn’t really an argument against you as much as it is against “the last thing I saw was the best” reporting, but without any shadow of a doubt, I’d take Kris Jenkins, Kevin “water pills” Williams, Albert Haynesworth, Haloti Ngata, and Vince Wilfork over DD, and that’s just my top 5. Even a Cards homer (not that I’m accusing you) would have a hard time making a case for DD over any of those guys. All five can get to the QB and have a more well rounded game. I’ll concede that Dockett is a good and useful player, but he’s not that “superstar” tier with those guys.

I guess that’s what having 3 sacks in the SB gets you, though.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he is in the NFC

Until Haynesworth plays a snap for the Redskins he’s still a Titan in my mind. With that crackpot logic in hand, 4 of your 5 top DTs are AFC products.

By the way is that top 5 in order with Kris Jenkins being the top DT in your opinion?

by barnerburner on Aug 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DT's

No, I just wrote the first 5 DT’s I could think that I was positive were better than Dockett. DT’s are so hard to evaluate anyway that lists and hype and stats don’t mean a whole lot, so I was sticking with what I could say confidently.

If it weren’t for the drug testing thing, I might pick Kevin Williams, but I’d probably go conventional and take Haynesworth if I had to pick. Considering Haynesworth just got paid $100M and is on a new team, I don’t think anyone is as sure a bet to be a dominant force this year as Ngata, with Jenkins a close second. Wilfork may or may not belong in the top 5, but he’s a very good player. If kwoog were here, you know who he’d be pimping, but I feel Rogers is too much of a mixed bag to be in the top 5.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all a matter of opinion and the difference between a DT and NT

First, it’s almost not fair to compare Dockett or any 4-3 DT to a true nose tackle like Ngata, Wilfork, Hampton or the SD nose. They play completely different positions and have completely different responsibilities. I mean could Dockett do what Ngata does for the Ravens? Of course not but Ngata couldn’t play Dockett’s role in the Cardinals defense either.

As far as Jenkins, Wiliams and Haynesworth, I’d agree that he’s pretty clearly behind Haynesworth and probably Kevin Williams. Jenkins though is basically a toss-up. If you look at their career stats, Dockett is better in tackles per game (2.8 vs. 2.6) their sack percentage is identical (.24). Jenkins did that while playing in Carolina with arguably one of the best lines in the NFL and Dockett obviously didn’t have that around him.

Some may have pumped him up thanks to a great playoff run but he deserves to be mentioned in the second tier of the league’s defensive tackle if you ask me.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jenkins is more of a NT than Ngata. His stats:

Jets rush D 2007: 29th, 4.2 ypc
Jets rush D 2008: 7th, 3.7 ypc

Jenkins is what Hampton used to be. Instant rush defense.

I will grant you that Dockett essentially plays a different position than a lot those guys, but the term “DT” is broad, and if we’re using the Pro Bowl/All Pro criteria, Dockett would have to go up against all of those guys. If you want to narrow the definition of “DT” to pass rushing 4-3 UT’s, then Dockett is in the discussion for the top 3 with Tommy Harris and Kevin Williams. If you divide people up into enough categories, though, everyone is in the top 5.

You’re always going to have apples and oranges because no two defenses are the same, so you have to ask questions like who is the best in the role they play, Ngata, Jenkins, or Dockett? If we had a league-wide super-draft that only counted for 2009, who would go first, Ngata, Jenkins, or Dockett? If you put Ngata, Jenkins, or Dockett on a given defense, who would have the biggest impact? Maybe those are tough questions to definitively answer, but it’d be hard for me to take a guy who is a decent pass rusher (that is, one season and one game of being a good pass rusher) and an average run stuffer over someone who can take half a yard off his opponent’s rushing average and still get to the QB.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ngata was a 3-4 DE until last season when they lost Kelly Gregg for the year. He’ll probably be back at end again this year. It’s his versatility that makes him so scary.

by barnerburner on Aug 13, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, I’d take him on my team any day.

I hope Ziggy is a bit like Ngata, that would be a steal, and we would be set at DE for a long time.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dockett plays an under (or is it over, I always screw them up) Tackle, same as Sapp and others, he’s a big DE. He’d be a good 3-4 DE (at least skills and size-wise). He’s one of the best at his position and if the Cardinals had a legitimate edge rush he would have better stats for it.

Tonight is DD’s feeding frenzy. Whiz is going to attack the center, you have to with who we are starting. I expect Ben to have a very short time in the game, especially if DD is playing for some personal grudge material. Remember Greg Lloyd on Favre in the preseason, we don’t need Ben in the way of that kind of hit, and if DD is looking to put himself on the map early this year, it’s a great time to do it.

As for winning or losing, that will be decided by the second half crew, it always is. So yeah, lets see.

Don’t bet against the Steelers, Tomlin is a world class motivator and the young guys will eat it up.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness...

Jamie Dukes is, and this is only my opinion, one of the worst people representing football on TV today. That show he had (? Does he still have it?, I don’t get NFL Network anymore) was terrible. Anyone who talks over clips of others being interviewed while they answer the questions asked and puts that on TV needs to learn that that is not funny, in fact it makes you look kind of stupid and childish. While I’m on the topic, I know you’re a big man and those set lights are hot, so no disrespect, but no one wants to watch you wipe the sweat off your head with a towel on national TV… no one.

And Darnell Dockett is also on my short list of best D-linemen in the league. Top 10 no doubt.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

R U Ready for some Football?

Hell-To-The-YYYYYYEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

by datruth4life on Aug 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My PenXs

has become erect with anticipation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness

by Steelchamps !! on Aug 13, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is so wrong...

Absolutely hilarious though

by ncoolong on Aug 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why couldn’t you put the bunny back in the box?

by shleeve on Aug 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

“What’d you think I’m gonna do? I’m gonna save the ******* day.”

by gcn on Aug 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depth chart

I noticed that Revenge of the Birds has a nice post on the current depth chart for the Cardinals, who’s likely to make it on the 53-man team, etc. Is there a comparable post on the Steelers somewhere around here?

by zacharai on Aug 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of people have fan fan posts with said info, but I don’t know if anyone has done an official post.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The depth chart is last year, with a few really good battles to replace who we lost. Very little importance in it, so we haven’t done anything.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

feels like the offseason is so much shorter

when your team is the reigning champs

here’s to preseason good health!

by vherub on Aug 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good luck tonight guys.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You too...

Just saw you’re playing tonight too. A healthy win… that’s all any of us want, with healthy at a premium.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 13, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

I am heading on down to Baltimore in about 45 minutes. Gonna be fun.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 13, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Down to the city*……I am from Baltimore.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's funny how proud you are to be from baltimore

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Aug 13, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love my city

Cya guys

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leinart v. St. Pierre?

Is that really true this is even a question? I was very high on Leinart coming out of college and still think he will be a good one. St. Pierre? Well, lets just be nice and say he never did anything note worthy.

I’d be interested if some Card fans would fill me in.

by SteelerMike on Aug 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Leinart vs. BSP

It all depends on who you ask as to whether or not this is really a competition. The commonly accepted theory thrown out by most that cover the team is that BSP was being courted by Todd Haley (new Chiefs coach and former Card’s OC), but BSP wanted to stay with Whiz. Whiz, in order to keep BSP, in turn told him that he’d be able to compete for the #2 job. Anyone covering the team, and BSP himself, will tell you that he’ll have to vastly outperform Leinart to actually take the job. There are plenty of Leinart haters who will tell you that he’ll lose this ‘competition’ and Leinart will be cut by the end of camp but they are more like the lunatic fringe than actual fans.

My personal opinion is that Whiz wanted to keep BSP b/c of their history and promised him the chance to compete knowing full well that BSP was the lesser QB and that he had virtually no shot at winning the job. Whiz has championed the idea of competition since he came to Arizona and this is just another way of showing the team that any spot is up for grabs.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BSP knows the system, and is a solid emergency QB. With Warner’s age and Leinhart you want a third who can play legitimately. And if he can push Leinhart, who I don’t think fits Whiz’s system that well it’s a big plus. Somebody has to wake that kid up and scare him.

Plus Warner or Leinhart will be gone before long, having a solid 2 is important in that position.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

McFadden is a starting corner so I don’t know why he’d line up against Wallace.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Aug 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4-WR set?

Wouldn’t be surprised if the Steelers gave that a spin with their first team O. It’s not so much that they’ll match up mano y mano, it’s more about what the two represent, and two guys to watch tonight. In the regular season, the match-ups will be more valid. In the pre-season, no one cares anyway. It’s just something to watch.

by ncoolong on Aug 13, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AZ would be better lining up DRC against Wallace since you’d have two unpolished speedsters together. Bmac is more of a 4.5 zone CB.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And just in case Beze has anything to say about that :)

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long

Do we think Lawrence Timmons plays tonight? I know they had Woodley play the 1st half in most pre-season games in ’08, but I was at the opener vs Philly last year, and if memory serves, he was outta there by the end of the first quarter…Thoughts?

"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.

by HighSchoolSteeler on Aug 13, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was outta there by the end of the first quarter…Thoughts?

In reference to Woodley.

"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.

by HighSchoolSteeler on Aug 13, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on how good he looks, if he’s blowing people up he’s out quick, if not he’ll get more time.

I personally expect him to get a bit more time, just so he is in the base set as much as possible.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Timmons has a lot of experience at this point, so I’d be surprised if they left him in much longer than the other starters. Three series, depending on length. He can run the defense against our scrubs instead of their scrubs if he needs more practice.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man.

It’s sad how pumped I’m getting for this game tonight. I can’t remember a year where there were so many players I wanted to watch at the bottom of the depth chart. I can’t wait till the 1st ends and the starters go away.

Bring on Dixon, Tank, Redman, Wallace, Shipley, Ziggy, Mundy, D Woods, K. Lewis, J. Burnett, S. Logan, Urbik. . . I can’t wait.

Oh, and the most exciting player not playing last year. . . SEPULVEDA!!!!

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m excited for all of it. not quite as aroused as steelchamps, but pretty dang excited, nonetheless. i know its just the preseason, and it is a ‘fake’ game as some call it, but i am just really interested to watch some of these guys at full speed and with real contact.

ps. is it ridiculous that i have my terrible towel at the ready? i plan on waving it the first time we have a punt longer than 26 yards.

...die trying
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by agentorange on Aug 13, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that cracked me up, 26 yards. . . I hope Sepulveda can hit his college form, that would be amazing, if he’s at full strength and healthy all year we will dominate special teams.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 13, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why why why???

Whey are the ESPN guys yakking about Vick coming to the Steelers? What would BB do?? It’s nuts!!!

by Ragnar808 on Aug 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it’s just something to fill air time. they have no idea what they are talking about. but it gets steelernation talking, and that generates a response, which is what the mickey mouse sports network is looking for, no?

...die trying
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by agentorange on Aug 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

…but it’s annoying….and what’s dumb about it is that they talk as if they bring in Vick, then WHAT would happen with BB? They say it would be great for the steelers…but how, and what do they think would happen with BB? Trade? Backup? Two QBs?? WHAT? it’s all insane and is just bothering me.

I guess I’ll feel better once James Harrison smacks Warner in the the face! ;)

by Ragnar808 on Aug 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They'd definately cut Ben...

Without a doubt. Who needs a two time Superbowl winning QB anyway. Come on man, Vick would be in a back up role at best if he came to the Burgh, which we now know he won’t anyway. But to think that getting Vick would equal getting rid of or benching Ben is nonsense.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 14, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm most excited for

a spark on special teams. Sepulveda and our new crew of returners – has to be an improvement.

by jason m on Aug 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

robo punter just nailed one. i am waiving my towel.

...die trying
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by agentorange on Aug 13, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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