5 Players who Impressed....and those who didnt
No doubt everyone is making their first off observations. However this is the only preseason game aired in my country of the Steelers, so this is the only time I can make proper critcisms and evaluations of what I saw, so please bear with me.
Put simply, congratulations to the Steelers on a preseason win, and also congratulations on the rookie class of players. They all looked hungry, they all looked prepared, and each of them gave it their all. There were some mistakes of course, and at times their competition wasnt at NFL starting calibre, but they all did themselves proud.
Anyways, below i'll list my top 5 players who really impressed me, as well as 5 others, who need to up their game to earn a spot on my roster, and I encourage you all to place your own opinions in the comments section.
The Impressors:
Probably the most impressive player out there for me, he really exceeded my expectations. He looked very fluid as a route runner, showed hands of glue, and also looked dangerous once he had ball in hand. I liked the way he caught one over the middle, and almost wrestled his way out of the tackle. If he can keep working at it, the Steelers may have found a gem here. Next step, is taking on the big boys of starting defenses.
He was really booming some of his punts out there, with great hang time and distance. A little slow on the release at times, but i think that was due to him really driving his leg into the punts. Hopefully he can make us all forget how terrible our punt game was last year, by continuing this form into the regular season, but that was a very solid punting performance.
Sure, he fumbled the punt return where he ran into the back of his own team mates, but it wasnt a bad return before that, and he made up for it with a couple very solid returns. This guy was tagged as a real ball hawk in college, and he showed that skill with his interception of St. Pierre. He read the play, timed the jump and made the play brilliantly, and he also made a couple solid tackles. All he needs is better competition to up his experience.
We all know how poor our offenses execution was in the redzone last season, so when we had goal to go, no doubt many Steeler fans thoughts were "Please God let our redzone attack improve". We may have found a diamond in the rough with Redman. He ran hard, low and fought for every yard. He showed good burst, and never showed any reluctance to hammer it into the line. He has made the Running Back situation very intriguing, but he really stood out to me.
Ra'Shon Harris:
Lost in the talk of the offseason, did anyone else see that this guy had a really solid game? Albeit against the 3rd stringers, but he showed a good motor, power and burst off the line. This guy could be a good project for DE, similar to how Keisel was, as a player who can inherit a starting job in a few years time. Pressured the QB well, and i believe he had a split sack as well. Was a nice little surprise from a player I didnt think Id be hearing much of
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The Disappointers:
Essentially having a second rookie season, Mendenhall had an up and down game from my eyes. At times he ran too high, and when hitting the pile, did not square his shoulders or lower his pads to grind out extra yardage. He showed great burst at times, but other times seemed rather lethargic and lacking effort. I want to see more out of him in the next game.
Maybe a surprise to some, but this guy was outplayed by our two rookie Defensive Ends, and after coming off a pretty solid season as our backup DE, I was hoping to see a bit more go out of him, rather than being mediocre against the second stringers. Another couple strong preseason showings from Harris, Kirschke and Hood, and this guy could be finding himself buried on the depth chart.
After watching McDonald, Wallace and Sweed all have very very solid games, this guy is now officially on the outside looking in. Failed to get open, made 1 catch for 1 yard, and when I could see, he failed to run routes with authority. Guy needs to step up, because his time on the Practice Squad has run out, its all or nothing now.
Looked slow, has poor footwork, and was lethargic looking in body movements. Still doesnt run with pads low, or with much purpose. With the emergence of Redman, I think Davis has to be the odd man out.
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May i make mention to Frank Summers, who played well on Special teams and blocking from the Fullback slot, as he had a big part in both the Redman scores. Didnt have it easy in the running game, but he outplayed Davis.
Also Limas Sweed looked electrifying at times, notably on the 45 yard reception from Batch, where he made a great adjustment coming back for the ball, and making the catch. He did drop that one thrid down, but if you noticed he didnt have his helmet on properly, and was probably stuck in a moment of not concentrating. However, good receivers make that catch. He ran great routes and looked sharp and confident.
My final though is DAYAM do Woodley and Harrison look ready for a monster season.....
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Wallace is very exciting.
Mr 412 also noted (on another post) the special teams and fullback play of Summers. I’m going to have to watch the blocking more carefully.
The guy I really like is Harris. I posted before that I thought he would make the team (but that was only wishful thinking). Now my point of view might have actual support. The front office would have to keep 7 defensive linemen (instead of six) in order for Harris to get a spot, don’t you think? The talent tiers look something like this:
Smith Hampton Keisel
Hood Hoke Kirschke
Harris Paxson Eason
I could see Paxson and Eason getting cut, but it’s hard to see Kirschke getting cut since he played with the first team last night. So it seems like Harris will have to hope for seven DEs on the roster.
Who knew?
Dear God...
I ask from You that our 2 outside LBs and beloved QB have “injury-free” seasons this coming 2009 NFL season.
+Infinity.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 14, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
also one #43 who basicly holds our d together.
Pow Right In The Kisser!
by Cutch is the chosen one! on Aug 14, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
How could you not mention Shaun McDonald? He was definitely in my top 3 of players who impressed me (Wallace and Redmann being the other two). He was fantastic in the slot and made some great grabs and moves over the middle. Also, he looked quick and confused defenders for some good YAC.
Here is to hoping they drop Davis, and alternate Redmann and Tank at FB….
Holmes, Ward, Sweed, Wallace, McDonald
It’s early but I really believe this has a chance to be the best receiving corps the Steelers have had in my lifetime.
by SteelerFan Ben on Aug 14, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but some of us are old enouph to remember
Swan
Stallworth
But definetly in the last 29 or so years.
Could be the best
Though, I wouldn’t have thrown Ward, ARE, and Burress out of bed for eating crackers. We didn’t have the depth, but those guys had promise.
Piling on a few more names.
1. SHIP!!! He pushed guys back, he held his ground, he switched his man and picked up stunts like a veteran, I watched him every play he was out and was greatly impressed, give the kid some first string time! Let’s see how good he is.
2. Legursky. Expected the Cardinals to go after him hard, either they were sluggish or the young centers are the real deal.
3. Sweed. Yeah he dropped one, he always will I feel, but the hype he’s been getting he lived up to. Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Wallace, McDonald (also very impressive, but mostly what I expected) would be a sick group to take into the season.
4. Davis. Worlds apart from everything else I’ve seen of him, he looked like a Steeler LB out there. I was very pleased to see him play like that. Great job.
5. Dennis Dixon. What you say? yeah, he looked bad at times, but he made plays. I think he’s a year or two away from being a very valuable 2nd QB. Let’s hope we don’t get to see him tested this season, but still I liked what I saw, he looked a lot better than last year.
Disappointed: Almost the entire second and third string front 7. Hood was solid and made a nice sack, Harris looked like a real 3-4 end but we were getting knocked off the ball and gaps were opening against our guys.
Starting O-line. We don’t play very smart and we often don’t beat the guy in front of us. I got beat twice on a swim move too. Anyway, Shipley and Legursky, put them in!
Kudos to you for calling out Legursky. He looked reasonable in there his first time in. I also noticed the O-line getting some nice push in the run game, especially on 3rd and 1. Pass protection and colon remain the same.
My tagline sticks.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Mendy & Co.
To me, it seemed that Mendenhall was avoiding contact. There seemed to be a couple of times were he had a big head of steam and could have blown some guys up but instead tried to manuver and got dropped. I’m really rootin’ for the guy but, MAN was Redman impressive! Sweed, on the other hand, has seemingly improved enormously. I’ll accept a single drop in the first preseason game in exchange for those great grabs he made in traffic. Wallace and McDonald were eye-catching as well. How are we going to hold on to this abundance of wealth at WR ?
"We'll continue to search for the ceiling"
With the new depth at WR, it makes me wonder whether or not Holmes will be resigning with us once his contract is done.
by John Stephens on Aug 14, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Mendenhall started slow but
looked like he ended well. I’m giving him this game, having broken my sholder blade also, I’m sure sticking your shoulder in there against NFL players would mess with your mind a little.
In translation
He looked bad against their first D but good against their back-ups.
by John Stephens on Aug 14, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmons
Did not look like a stud out there, especially in run support, even though PixburgArn assures me he is the second coming. He gets a pass the first few games though because he is essentially adding a whole new element to his game, but as of now I remain especially unimpressed with his run stopping.
When you are left clean on the back, you have to make the tackle. Timmons is a work in progress, but damn is he fast.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
I have to call you out bro....I never said he was the second coming
However I said and still believe he is an upgrade. If you look back I did say something along the lines of him getting to plays that Foote doesn’t. I also said that he misses tackles at times. He actually ran himself out of position on one or two plays. His problems are very fixable. And by the way you beat me to writing something about Timmons. Just look back at my posts…not hard to find….One is labeled “Timmons.”
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 14, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Timmons is a downgrade
I’m sorry to say this, because Timmons is way more exciting than Larry Foote, but the most important thing for an ILB in the 3-4 is to make tackles in between the tackles. The D Line is primarily occupying blockers so the ILBs absolutely have to make the tackles. Timmons has not shown he can do this yet.
Granted, he looks great chasing a RB to the outside/into the flat or covering a TE, but that’s less important than stopping the run. Not that Timmons is bad, but Timmons full time is not as good as Foote on 1st and 2nd and Timmons on 3rd. But I’m sure I’m in the minority on this.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Aug 14, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not concerned with that
It’s situational awareness.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 14, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Lebeau
I’m confident once the real games begin Dick will find ways to maximize Timmon’s strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Awareness on running downs will come with experience if he is as bright of a guy as the coaching staff says he is.
by SteelerFan Ben on Aug 14, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmons
showed he’s really athletic and fast, but on his blitzes he was picked up pretty easily. Hopefully he’ll get everything straightened out in the preseason, but even if he doesn’t, he’s still pretty solid
I’m prone to hyperbole Pixburgh, don’t take it too seriously. You did say that Timmons would have no problem in run support, and to trust you. As it stands now…I don’t. We’re in agreement, as stated above though, that he can and likely will add to that part of his game. It’s very premature at this point to find out anything about that part of his game, as I suspect he has really only had his first reps this year in full time run support.
Small sample size, first pre-season game, etc. The cardinals Hightower had a pretty good game for himself against the run-stuffing pittsburgh steelers. I recall a lot of runs going to the right, so I’m not going to pin them all on Eason, though at least one was. Timmons is a downgrade in run support. We all knew he was going to be, until he proves himself otherwise. There was no proof last night.
Given that nothing Lebeau-like was thrown out last night, you could see what he was going to do on passing downs. It’s going to be sexy.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
That's a first
I have actually been accused of taking someone too seriously! Nice save by the way. I will give you this….it’s early. Just like when Foote was drafted, he never really arrived until his third year. IMO he’s already far ahead of where Foote was at this point. When I say situational awareness, I am talking about what I will give you credit for alluding to….He has now had to add we situations to his responsibilities. He is in for situations he’s not accustomed to.
Carl Weathers I’ll throw you a bone: Timmons may be a downgrade today….August 14th, but that means exactly dick.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Aug 14, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone has to do the ugly work. The Larry Foote work. Farrior? Heck no, that’s not his game, and he’s great at his game, he covers the middle and tackles, no way he switches roles. Harrison and Woodley would have to move inside and do you really want wither of those two giving up the pass rush or coverage to jam running lanes all day? No.
Timmons has to get his head down and his nose dirty, he has to or this defense will be worse against the run, and worse against the run is just plain worse. If he can blitz and run and play great but our run defense regresses, he’s a downgrade.
by Phantaskippy on Aug 14, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree on Mendenhall
I thought Mendy looked fine and much better than last year. He hit the hole harder and quicker than last year. Mendy is a one-cut runner – he takes the handoff, makes a move and then hits the line. The problem was there was no place to go. The line has to open some holes for him to get to the second level and they didn’t. He had to try to bounce to the outside, got his shoulders turned a bit and was taken down.
Frankly, Mendy gets a thumbs-up from me for last nights’ performance.
I'll second that!
One game comeback from a long off season. Hopefully, next week he’ll be a little more comfortable and firing on all 8.
by steelersrock08 on Aug 14, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts
The Good:
- Trai Essex looked solid in the little action he got, primarily blocking Darnell “I own other players named Darnell” Dockett. He got some push in the running game and he kept his guy off Ben.
- Kemo actually picked up a stunt (!)
- Wallace and Sweed both looked like they were too good to play against the second team defense.
- McDonald looked too good to play against the third team defense.
- James Harrison. Holy shit.
- William Gay wasn’t tested enough in coverage to say much there, but he was destroying ball carriers.
- Donovan Woods looked like a capable backup.
- Bruce Davis didn’t look nearly as bad as I thought he would. He could still make the team.
The Bad:
- I love Ziggy Hood, but I wasn’t terribly impressed with him in the running game. He needs to get his pad level down. In his defense, he was doubled a lot.
- Joe Burnett, the first rule of returning punts is you do not fumble the ball. The second rule of returning punts is YOU DO NOT FUMBLE THE BALL.
- Doug Legursky was the only OL starter that had no business being out there. He is a big oaf who got away with several blatant holding penalties. I didn’t watch Shipley close enough, but I’d like to see him next week if Hartwig and Stapler are still out.
- Willie Colon: LINE UP IN THE FIN RIGHT SPOT, RETARD!!!
- The first team defense as a whole wasn’t pumped up for the game, which is understandable, but hopefully they’ll play with more intensity in real games.
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Legursky picked up stunts and read the blocking well, he got beat a few times, but he did better than I was expecting him to. I counted him a bright spot because I had very low expectations for him.
I watched ship, he wasn’t blowing people up or driving them back quick, but he is tenacious and held his own. he kept working and drove people off late, so that’s something. He also rocked on the stunts, switching his man and more than once handling multiple guys well. I really liked what I saw. The question is can he handle the big strong elite DT. He’s not going to get bigger.
Gay played very good against very good receivers. I liked what I saw.
Bruce Davis for the first time I’ve seen looked like a Steeler Linebacker, he got to the ball and made plays enough to inspire hope of him panning out.
by Phantaskippy on Aug 14, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want Legursky starting, but he is theoretically our 3rd center going up against the first-team D of the cardinals. I’d like to see another teams 3rd center do that well.
Agreed on Ship, I’d like to see him against a 3-4.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
That’s a fair assessment of Legursky, and he was thrown into the fire right away. I’ve heard a lot of talk about him, though, so I didn’t want to be too soft on him. He’s a #3 center, a guy who might get better over time, but a guy you really don’t want to see in a real game at this point. Shipley might be in the same boat. If I had to pick, I’d give the nod to Shipley for his head and athleticism.
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Ship didn’t get beat, I liked that a lot. I think he’s gonna be a solid backup for a long time, if he can hold his own against a big NT, then I’d say he’s a starter, just one you want a big guard next to.
by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Q: How bad did you beat that cornerback?
A: I couldn’t even tell you. I just felt like I got up on his cushion and then I was open. I was just looking back for the ball. I don’t even know where the corner was.
From: http://pit.scout.com/2/888309.html
I love it.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Also
Q: What are you thinking when you’re alone in the end zone like that?
A: Come down. Come on, ball, come on down
Reminds me a bit of the trick play in the playoffs, Cinci ’05 where Ward and Wilson were both behind the defense waiting.
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Observations
1) Willie Colon seems to be in mid season form already with an early pre snap penalty. A lack of running game and an illegal formation penalty later coupled with too many men in the huddle made Arians and his crew look like they too are in mid season form.
2) Sepulveda will be a HUGE upgrade in the kicking game this year. He got the loudest ovation from the crowd after his first booming punt.
3) To all the Fast Willie Parker haters; it didn’t look like Mendenhall had any room to run anywhere either. Sure glad we got FWP on the squad as I trust him with the ball in the 4th quarter.
4) Sweeeeed! He looked much improved and like a contributor. He also dropped a 1st down pass that was in his hands.
5) 3rd round CB Keenan Lewis had a nice hit on special teams that forced a fumble but later came up limping in pass defense. Others looked better in the secondary but others looked worse.
6) Deebo planted Matt Leinart and looks to be in mid season form. So did Jeff Reed after sinking a 50 yard putt.
7) Bruce Davis looked much improved both as a special teams player and as a LB in the defense. He made some tackles for both squads and chased Palko and the others out of the pocket several times.
8) The Tank looked good on special teams but so so as a runner. He blocked ok but the best runner looked to be FA Isaac Redmon not Tank or Mendenhall.
9) New DB Keiren Ratliff looked ok in coverage and could make the team but how do you let Sean Morey beat you on a 3rd and long? A long time favorite Anthony Madison also got beat up in pass coverage as well as had an INT taken away and given a PI leading to an AZ 3.
10) Always liked LB Donovan Woods. He plays hard.
11) Mike Wallace is fast. Shaun McDonald looked like a real NFL #3 WR. Limas had his moments. Looks like the Steelers could be deep at WR.
12) Joe Burnett was the most impressive rookie and had the play of the game with his INT. I didn’t think he had a chance to make the 53 with the competition at DB but based on the coverage skills of some of his competition last night I reassess and say he has a chance to make the 53 and dress.
13) Greg Warren looks recovered from his injury. Sonny Harris and Ziggy Hood look like guys that could play in 09. Scott Paxson also looked pretty solid telling me that the Steelers will have a solid D this year. Loved their goal line stand in the first half.
14) I’m sure glad Steeler football is back.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
I think Burnett will make the team. If he holds onto the ball, he’s a good punt returner, and he looked like William Gay in his first preseason on that pick. He also has a complementary skill set to Lewis and plenty of potential. Someone would probably pick him up if we let him go.
That PI on Madison was really awful but the Deebo hit should have been a flag. I’ll call us even.
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Random Notes
Frank “The Bulwark” Summers did not look like a tank. He’s good at running at people. Not so good running between them. I thought he was going to be our short yardage guy, not our fullback.
Patrick Bailey looked “meh”. I’ve read some posts that are pretty down on him, and he deserves them, but I don’t think he’s done. There was at least one play (maybe two) where he got a good bull rush going and collapsed the pocket. He got his shoulder under the linemen and pushed well with his speed rushes, but his feet just weren’t fast enough. Fixable?
What happened to Stefen Logan? Did he ever take the field?
Donovan Woods flashed a little early in the game. I’ll have an eye on his for the rest of the preseason.
Isaac Redzone can read the holes and get into them. He still needs to prove he can make the yards when the path is a little more cluttered, but he’s another everyone will be watching.
by Varmint on Aug 14, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hey!
Did anyone see TE Johnson? He’s been building a rep blocking in camp and I wanted to see for myself but I either missed him or he didn’t play.
Anyone?
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Aug 14, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions
he's #85 right?
He made a couple of nice blocks in the second half (one good blitz pickup that I recall). Dropped an awkward short range pass though and looked pretty unco-ordinated in doing so. His college figures say he has some good potential as a receiver though. Not sure he can stick on the 53. A lot depends on other players. But being as Spaeth can’t block and McHugh may end up as a full time FB, we could do worse as our #3 TE… Though I would prefer him to be playing #2 over Spaeth to be honest.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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I want to see more feedback on Johnson (thanks Kiwi!). My preference would be to see him make the team. McHugh has to be the tallest FB ever. How good can that be if he is called upon to run block? He’s 6 inches taller than Kreider was.
Anyway, I’m sorry to hear that he (Johnson) had an ugly incompletion. Sometimes that’s all it takes to get dropped yourself.
Who knew?
Dixon
he did a good job of taking what the Cars Defense gave him he took outlets when everyone was covered down the field looked comfertable in the pocket. And in former Steeler News Brian St. Perier( can’t remeber how to spell his name) thows an INT to his old team so much for being the no. 2 guy in AZ.
Johnson looked good
I thought Johnson stood out as a lineblocker. I didn’t really notice him much as a lead FB but on the line he did a good job controlling his man. He’s a strong dude and seems to love that part of the game. His attempted catch was not all that bad. He ran a little release route to the left near the line of scrimmage and didn’t really seem to know whether to stay in one spot or continue running. The pass from Dixon was a bit out of his reach and he looked awkward adjusting to it. I don’t think he got a hand on it. He’s strong, stocky and short for a TE, looks more like a FB than a TE but he has a chance to contribute as a blocker in both positions.
Patrick Bailey
Was solid on the few plays he was in on on defense. Most of his work was ST last night. From what i’ve heard he’s got a ST slot on the 53 for sure, and could possibly be a backup at OLB by the season opener. I wouldn’t read too much into Bailey’s work last nite, since the oaches seemed to be getting longer, harder looks at less-familiar players.
Remember: Bailey was DROTY last year, so he’ll get a fair shot at the team this year, barring injuriy/dropoff.
Aside from most of the names you guys mentioned, here's two things that stood out to me
Donovan Woods – a couple people briefly mentioned him in their post, but this man deserves a lot more praise for the way he played! I can’t remember when he got in the game (maybe mid 2nd or start of 3rd) but he was playing with the second team D and looked two levels better than them. On the one drive alone I think he got 3 consecutive tackles and by my count I know he had at least 4.5-5 tackles in the time he played. These weren’t shoestring tackles either, some of them were authoritative Kendrell Bell type of hits. I think he is clearly ahead of Bruce Davis, and the next best LB we have aside from the starting 4
Ziggy Hood- He’s getting a lot of credit for the sack he had and the hurried pass he forced, and those were positive signs to see. But I’m not going to give him a high grade just because of those two plays. I think he started the second half and the first couple defensive series he was getting handled. On several passing plays he was lined up one on one with a guard and was getting no defensive pressure at all. I’ll blame it on being nervous and inexperienced because he played better later, but my point is that he didn’t get an A in my book

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