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Pittsburgh Steelers Defeat Arizona Cardinals, 20-10. Some Initial Observations From Preseason Week No. 1

Mike Tomlin improved to 3-0 in preseason openers as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers when his team surged late to defeat the Arizona Cardinals 20-10 in a rematch of last year's Super Bowl. It's always nice to win, no two ways about it. If nothing else, it gives lots of the younger players, many of whom we'll mention below, a chance to get in a live-game situation where they must deal with and overcome pressure. They did just that. That said, I think we all also realize that the victory means very little.

Let's still talk about a few of the notes from last night's victory.

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  • Let's start with one of the more glaring positives - the return of punter Daniel Sepulveda. The 2007 4th round draft pick looked very solid last night, booming 6 punts for an average of 49.5 yards. He had two downed inside the 20 yard line and had a long of 53. If the Steelers can get consistently solid play from Sepulveda, particularly if the offense takes a bit of time to gel, I very much like the team's chances to avoid any big slip-ups. The defense, if healthy, should be able to hold down the fort if they're not compromised by bad field position, even if it takes a bit of time for the offense to hit its stride. Congratulations to Sepulveda on all the hard work he's put in to get himself back to this point. Fingers crossed he remains injury-free for the remainder of this year and for years to come.

  • Dennis Dixon also deserves kudos for his performance last night, particularly on the touchdown drive early in the 4th quarter that gave the Steelers an insurmountable 17-3 lead. The drive began at the Steelers own 20-yard line and it featured 6 pass attempts by Dixon - all completions - for 60 yards, Yes, the Cards were down to at least their 3rd string defenders. But Dixon also looked poised and confident when the team needed him to settle down, be less skittish in the pocket and lead his team down the field for points. Dixon wasn't perfect, particularly early on. He underthrew a deep ball that would have likely gone for a touchdown. And it took him a few snaps to calm down and trust his progressions ad instincts in the pocket. But that's to be expected and not at all alarming. Just so long as he made the necessary adjustments sooner rather than later. Which he did. Charlie Batch also looked just fine out there in limited action, but one has to really wonder now if Dixon might not be the better choice for the Steelers were they forced to play without Ben Roethlisberger for more than just a few series or quarters.

  • LaMarr Woodley and James Harrison are good at football. Good goodness. If they stay healthy all year, it will alleviate so much of the pressure off the rest of the defense and might even allow Dick LeBeau's unit to sustain an injury or two to a key player. But these two are the anchor of everything that the Steelers defense wants to do and if they're terrorizing opposing quarterbacks like they did last year, look out National Football League.

  • It doesn't surprise me that Lawrence Timmons was a bit hesitant and seemingly a half-step too slow on a number of plays last night. He'll be just fine. Let's just keep him healthy until when we're playing for real marbles.

  • Let's leave discussion(s) about the offensive line for a separate post, but I will say that nobody was really impressive last night. Certainly not Max Starks or the regular cast of characters that we should see lining up as the first unit come the regular season. But the two centers, Doug Legursky and A.Q. Shipley looked pretty decent. So did Tony Hills. This is one area where I wasn't able to get a complete grasp on, as I was tending to a few other things while watching and have not had a chance to re-watch the game. Anything in particular you saw in this department?

  • Was it not exciting to see Limas Sweed play with an emphatic sense of purpose last night? Wow, great stuff from the 2nd year wide receiver out of Texas, who Steelers fans all know struggled mightily during his rookie campaign. Mike Wallace also looked like stage fright won't be an issue. All of a sudden, it's possible that the Steelers wide receiving corps could be awfully dangerous if those two continue to develop nicely. Then there's Shaun McDonald, who proved to be sure-handed and reliable in the slot. The Steeers weren't great on offense last night by any means, but little of that had to do with the play of the wide receivers. Color me excited to watch this offense this year, even if the running game continues to sputter more often than not.

  • Finally, to close, a tip of the cap to undrafted free agent rookie Isaac Redman, who scored two touchdowns in last night's victory. The rookie out of little-known Bowie State runs like a bull in a china shop and could find himself assuming more of the redzone and short yardage duties than we ever imagined just a few weeks ago. Is it possible that the Steelers keep six or even seven running backs on their roster? I'm not sure just yet, but Redman sure does seem to be making it tough on the coaching staff to ignore his presence and ability two weeks in to the 2009 preseason.

Thoughts?

Go Steelers!

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Mike Wallace is super fast. I saw the highlights this morning, the dude can run. Good game guys. Boring, but you got the W.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 14, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's preseason

They are all boring unless its your team playing.

by Johnny_S on Aug 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was 3-3 for the first 3 quarters, so it was fun to see your punter the whole time right? Oh yea it was, you guys are blushing over the site of him. A 23-0 win for us was far from boring.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 14, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After watching Berger and Ernster...

Watching Sepulveda was as sweet as candy. I could of watched him kick for another hour. I never knew the difference between good and bad punters until last year, and now the difference is glaring.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 14, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Punter Hype

We seem to have a lot of hype for our punter. Don’t get me wrong I know he cost us a 4th and their are expectations, but come on he a punter. He was 21st in the league in his rookie campaign so lets not set the ceilig to high. The only reason I say so is when you create lofty expectations for a punter you are only setting the table to let your self down. I hope Robopunter has a good season but I think Steelers nation needs to settle down on blogging about his great punts.

by TheCommish on Aug 14, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

21st in the league?

in what punt average? Meaningless. We had a good offense that year, he was pooch punting frequently. You don’t want to look at his punt average to make any sort of judgement on him from his rookie year. The only judgement you can make is on his control. He was asked frequently to pin opponents back inside the 20. 28 of his 68 punts on the season were downed or landed inside the 20. Only 2 other punters in the NFL had a better ratio than Sepulveda at doing that. Also only 2 of his punts went for Touchbacks which is again very impressive.

Do not judge punters purely on their average punt distance. So much of punting is situational it’s tough to judge them on stats alone.

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 15, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Preaching to the choir...

I’ve been the one talking about unrealistic expectations for a lot of players around the site for some time. There is a difference between setting lofty goals and having an actually good performence by a player and comparing it to the usually bad performence of someone else who played that position before. I never said “Sepulveda to the Pro-Bowl” like others. I simply said having him punting was a lot better than what we had last year.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 17, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because you were watching YOUR team.

You just proved my point. You know who the only team to go undefeated in the preseason last year was? The Detroit Lions. Preseason really does not mean that much for me as far as scores and wins and losses go, actually it means nothing.

Preseason is just a way to get to see young talent that you have not seen displayed before.

And anyway, about our punting, I’m not sure what you are making fun of? Are you saying that because we have added another dimension to our team that wasn’t there last year, we should be disappointed by it?

by Johnny_S on Aug 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I just find it rather funny that this blog is more excited about a punter than any other position it seems. Then again, when you are the super bowl champs returning basically all your starters, guess you dont need to worry about much

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see more posts surrounding

The surprising depth and skill at WR , the emergence of undrafted FA Redmann, and Mendenhall than I do Sepulveda.

Sepulveda deserves the talk though, if he punts like that all season he has a ticket to Hawaii (or wherever they change it to this year)

by Johnny_S on Aug 14, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you flipped Berger and Ernster for an entire year

You’d be excited too. If you think that is excitement, if any offensive lineman has a good game this site would blow a gasket. When a part of your team is really shaky, any part, you get excited at above-average play…

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Aug 14, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Yeah, that’s I was pretty happy about Legursky’s play. I was really afraid to have Ben out there more than 3 plays when I found out he was starting for Hartwig. But, he wasn’t bad, I thought.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Aug 14, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a bad punt

can be as devastating as an int. A bad punter can be a huge liability. They are never going to get marquee treatment- nor should they.
But seeing how young/injured or newly acquired pieces play in early preseason play?
That’s 90% of what the preseason is all about. Even if it is the lowly punter.

by vherub on Aug 14, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daniel Sepulveda is the Babe Ruth of football. He punts better than Ed Reed and Ray Lewis combined. But not like the Unibrow, that thing is a beast, just needs to find a better host.

Punter and kicker are maeningless until the kicker shanks PAT’s or the punter can’t get the ball to move 30 yards. Then it is a big frickin deal.

So yeah, our punter is a big deal, because we went from crap to really good.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol
Punter and kicker are maeningless until the kicker shanks PAT’s or the punter can’t get the ball to move 30 yards. Then it is a big frickin deal.

I don’t know man. With the style of defense that the Steelers and Ravens play, having a punter be able to put it inside the 20 consistently (Ravens punter Sam Koch had the most punts downed inside the 10 last year in the whole league and got snubbed from the pro bowl those bastards) is important.

Jeff Reed is a beast though. I want him to miss everytime he gets up there, but god damnit he never does.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 15, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying

With what we had last year we are a little bit excited about the prospect of above average punting.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, fine

but who’s going to kick the ball into the other team’s players so we get it back????

by acrollet on Aug 18, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GGRRREEEEAAAATTTTT

You play to win & got what you want.
We play to build & we’ll share it with you in Feb

by steelerstyle on Aug 15, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ravens fans..(Shaking my head)

That’s the problem with you ravens fans, the preseason is so important to you. Didn’t it suck to lose three times to us last year?

by Wilson Rojas on Aug 16, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

second fastest 40 time at the combine, i hope he’s our return man

by sixburgh757 on Aug 16, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think now that we know who the 5 WRs will be, it has become less of an interesting battle than the RB battle is going to be. The competition between FWP, Mendenhall, Moore, Tank, Redmann, and ugh Davis will be great. The only thing that might hinder this great battle, will be that questionable O-Line. Personally for me, I see the line-up going FWP, Mendy, Moore and then Tank and Redmann alternating between FB and RB. Good bye Davis.

by Johnny_S on Aug 14, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The "questionable" O-Line might enhance the competition

Just a thought, but a lot of “average” backs can run through big holes. This might help separate the men for the boys.

by jharmon64 on Aug 14, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe 4 deep at RB – FWP, Mendenhall, Moore, Redman. Five deep if you lump in Summers. Carrying six or seven would make us dangerously thin at some other position. (I’m still banking on Carey Davis finally being left off the roster.)

One O-line play in particular stood out to me by Shipley, Ramon Foster, and Hills. Foster had a bullrush in his face that Shipley was giving him help on, while some guy on the outside came at Hills. Hills briefly engaged him, but the rusher broke off and ran a stunt to the inside. Hills looked like he yelled at Shipley to get his attention, because Shipley immediately broke off the double team and stoned the guy coming on the stunt. That’s the kind of communication that our 1st string O-line still seems to lack.

by barnerburner on Aug 14, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I loved that play. I was all drool and man crush.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The offensive line did a nice job pass blocking, but not much run blocking going on. It seems like they just kind of muddle around out there on run blocks. No real push. When you have a bunch of running backs all take snaps and NOBODY stands out, it seems obvious that it’s not the runners.

by bone1978 on Aug 14, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nnnnhhH!...

 The Right side (Essex, Colon) looked alright-not outstanding but alright, the left side however left a bad taste. I hope Starks hasn’t regressed having signed a long term deal.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Aug 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben didn’t have much time, if you ask me. Far more happy with the run push than the pass protection. If they play like that Ben will be sacked just as often as last year, which isn’t good.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 14, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was more impressed with the line...

Consisting of (from LT to RT) Tony Hills, Ramon Foster, AQ Shipley, Kraig Urbik, and Jason Capizzi than the starting line. Granted they weren’t facing starters, but the pocket held up pretty well, and gave Dennis Dixon time to throw… out of the pocket. WR’s looked damn good, but if we keep 5 or 6 of those there is no way we can keep any extra RB’s. At least in my opinion.

Just too good to have football back to say anything too bad. Wait ‘til week two, I’ll get all pesimistic for you. Not now, football is back!

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 14, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just for giggles I’d be happy to let the 2nd string O-line roll for a series with the rest of the O being the starters. What’s the worst that will happen, Ben gets guys hanging off of him in the endzone and shakes three defenders off for a 3 yard gain? Okay, obviously it could be worse. Failure to pick up guys coming in full speed could end the season, but I doubt it happens, and it sure as hell sends a message.

Never going to happen.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 14, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea. Tell them there are no longer going to be individual position battles but rather a battle between the units as single entities. If the 2nd string performs better, they get to start. Light a fire under all of their asses.

by barnerburner on Aug 15, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The (non-starting) O-line looked great.
I like to think it is because they are getting better, as opposed to the possibility that Arizona may not be too deep on the D-line.
And how about Redman, I’m actually really excited for our running game!

by LongTimeSteelersFan on Aug 16, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some things i saw.

I purposefully watched shipley because I consider myself a Penn State fan. He didn’t let me down on those that I watched. It seemed like every play ,who ever he was blocking had just insulted his short arms, because he went after em. Also, on Redmons TD’s Summers had a really nice block on the first one, the 2nd he kind of miffed but….it was enough to open the gap, so kudos to him too. I wish he would have caught that 3rd and 3 pass, but oh well. Sweed was good, but the 6 yd out for the first down inside the 5 that he dropped reminded me that he’s not over the drops totally yet. Redmond looked good until he ran more than 2-3 in a series, then he seemed to get winded and slowed down…which won’t matter to much if he is only short yardage. I’d say Mendy hit the hole about 70% of the time and did fairly well, we just need to get people on the line backers and he’d have broken a few of those. He was doing well falling forward for at least 2-3 yards when hit at the LoS, so that was nice too. Ben was Ben, nice scramble action from the endzone. Our defense, even though I don’t think we sent more than 5 rushers at any one time still held their own…for not showing anything and not having a game plan as it were. I think we held up pretty good. Our starting O line looked S L O W very slow. But not horrible.

by Steelde#1 on Aug 14, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Parquett

I came away feeling very good about this team (so far). Observations (in particular order).

Woodley and Harrison. A preview of coming attractions. Both LeBeau and Tomlin are quoted as stating that Harrison is better than he was last year. Tomlin is not prone to hyperbole and Deebo put a frightening hit on Linart to emphasize the point. Woodley added a sack of Warner. This has to terrifying offensive coordinators and players across the league. Barring injury, we’re set here.

Other linebackers. Timmons did seem a tad out of sync, but I’m confident that will be corrected in short order. I was particularly impressed with the play of Donavan Woods, Fox, Bailey and Arnold Harrison. Less so Davis and Frazier; not that their play was bad, just not up to the standards set by the other guys.

Ziggy. Came away feeling that this guy is the real deal given that this was his first exposure. I think he can become a significant contributor by mid season at the latest.

Other new guys. It looks like most of this draft class are going to make the team, and not by the skin of their teeth either. The exception could be Tank Summers. Special teams work was okay. But he needs to show a lot more as a runner. Wallace, Lewis and Burnett looked pretty good and will add welcome depth and upgraded special teams play. Was particularly impressed with Burnett. Like him.

Redman looks to be this year’s Gary Russell right down to the uniform number. I like what I saw, but wonder if he can maintain that level of performance when the level of play rises.

I like the direction of the offensive line. They are not there yet, and frankly given the injury situation I would have been surprised if they had. But in general they protected well on pass plays. It is the run blocking than concerns the most right now.

Special teams no longer terrifies me. In fact, I’m beginning to look forward transition play.

Also, these guys hit hard across the board!
 
Madison got robbed on a great interception at the half. I say he gets a slot on the roster.

I think Mendenhall is a few game reps away from fulfilling his potential as a back. He’s still a little tentative on occasion. But on most runs last night he literally had nowhere to go.

We won’t be missing Nate Washington or Bmac very much (or at all. And I like both those guys) Sweed, Wallace and Gay will see to that.

Did you notice that the Cardinals didn’t challenge Ike Taylor at all.

As well as Dixon played Charlie is still #2. One series was all Tomlin needed see with Batch, and Dennis needs as much work as he can get.

All in all good stuff, no major concerns yet.

by RickVa on Aug 14, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you notice that the Cardinals didn’t challenge Ike Taylor at all.

Yeah, it seemed to me they were attacking Gay a lot. And I think Gay answered very well, with a pass breakup and solid tackling.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Aug 14, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the DB's hold up just a little

We are going to see lots of “coverage sacks”, I don’t see many QB’s eluding Harrison and Woodley for long.

by SNW on Aug 14, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great racap, blitz

isn’t is so freaking good to have football back? i plan on watching the game tonight, just because i can.

i agree with most of what has been said here. last night i thought timmons seemed “off,” but upon further review, it seems to me that he was overplaying everything. he was driving way too far upfield on his passrush, and overpursuing on the run. my guess is that he really wanted to shine, and he was a bit too excited. like a pitcher overthrowing a fastball. that’s just how it looked to me.

its probably premature, but i am really excited about redman. i know it was against the 3rd string defense, but i LOVED the way he ran downhill, kept his legs moving, and seemed determined to get into that endzone. i haven’t seen that since some guy who wore a number 36 on his jersey. (don’t misunderstand: i’m not saying he’s gonna be bettis, just that i liked the way he seemed to run like the bus in the short yardage situation, as opposed to fwp).

i haven’t heard any injury report. anybody get banged up last night? if we escaped a football game completely unscathed, then that is the best part of the whole night.

here we go steelers, here we go!

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by agentorange on Aug 14, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mentioned this elsewhere

but especially after that Cards fan came on here talking about how Dockett was a “top 5 DT” and “about the same as Kris Jenkins”, I watched the Dockett-Essex matchup, short-lived though it was, pretty closely. Essex was great in one-on-one pass protection, especially considering who was going against. There was one play where Dockett slid to his right and a little bit of pressure came from Essex’s general area, but it was hard to say if he was at fault at all. He also seemed to do decently in the running game, although I can’t say I remember exactly what “good run blocking” looks like.

In short, he looks like an upgrade over Stapler.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 14, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Redman

He’s going to play on a 53-man roster somewhere this year. I hope it’s for us but if not that kid has a future somewhere.

by Steelers in XLIV on Aug 14, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking what he's showing

He’s playing like he belongs not like a guy who has the deer-in-the-headlights look sure it was the Cards 3rd team defense but thats better than any D he saw at D. II Bowie State and he did the best of our backs in the goal line drill against our 2nd team D which is better than most teams First Team D. So I like what he is showing

by WVPiratesfan on Aug 14, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tank at risk (My 2 cents)

I havent seen what others probably have. What is Frank Summers offering that puts him in the “keep” pile?

Carey Davis is a slow RB, got it. He also is a tremendous STer. Would hate to lose that capability b/c of the nifty sounding nickname of an unimpressive 5th round draft pick.

Combine that with the potential of Redman and I dont see how Summers makes the final 53. I’ll hold off on joining the Redman party bus just yet, but if he can show that level of performance against a higher level of competition in the next couple of games, it will be very hard to keep him from being signed elsewhere if cut.

Whereas, Summers could easily be ignored by the non-nickname impressed crowd.

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by warftr5 on Aug 14, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Davis and Madison at Risk from Isaac Redzone and Tank

If Tank makes the team, it will because he can play on all five special team units and because he’s a solid blocker.

Tank is in the running because he’s a special teams ace, and that’s why guys like Madison are at risk. Tank brings to the table something they can’t: he seems to be able to block in short yardage situations, which was a glaring weakness last year. How many times last season did we see Gary Russell tackled four yards deep in the backfield, with Spaeth and McHugh missing blocks?

I don’t think it was any coincidence that Redzone scored twice last night with Summers opening a lane for him each time.

This team could easily have Isaac and Tank as running backs, if Tank is actually an ST ace who also comes in mostly to block in short yardage situations.

by Homer J. on Aug 14, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tank is even on ST and running with Davis IMO (aka neither look god running, both look solid in ST) in blocking Frank looked better but Davis is a decent receiving threat and Frank has hands of solid rock.

In the end the match up should come down to picking up blitzes in the passing game. No matter what else they bring, Ben is more important than any FB, so that will be the key to that competition.

Redman needs to show multiple skills to make the roster, his run blocking wasn’t impressive and I didn’t see him do anything on ST, so I think he is probably a PS player, no matter how good he is in short yardage. If he wants to make the roster as just a runner he needs to beat Mendenhall for the second running back spot. No way this team keeps three pure runners on the roster. So I think Redman sits and waits for Mendy or FWP to go down.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in run blocking Frank looked better

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis is more reliable to catch the ball but he’s not exactly a threat to do anything once he has it.

by barnerburner on Aug 15, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he’s not exactly a threat to do anything once he has it.

understatement of the preseason

by phxsteeler on Aug 15, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Brilliant.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 15, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about?

Davis does something everytime he catches the ball. He knows exactly where the first down marker is. And he knows how to consistently fall over 1 yard short of it :)

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 16, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis is a dependable receiver....you can depend on him...

…to get three yards out of the backfield on third and five. He’s Mister Fourth-and-Two.

It’s very early, but I can see a line of reasoning that Tomlin might take to get both Redman AND Summers on the roster.

First, we all figure it would require Davis to go. Check. Hello, Isaac Redzone.

Then Tank beats out a special teams player to make the roster. So that means Madison or someone else from the ST’s has to go. But Tank is your blocking back as well. So you give up an extra DB for an extra FB. And you keep a DB on the practice squad or the injured list just in case.

The reality is this team didn’t have a first-rate short yardage specialist or a first rate blocking back last year. And we’ve all seen how Coach Tomlin lasers in on the team’s weaknesses in the off-season and pre-season and fixes them. We all saw in the NFL films how the inability to score from inside the five yard line drove Tomlin nuts last year.

Well, folks, this team couldn’t score or get a first down running in short yardage situations. And if it means making room for two rookie running backs on the roster to fix the problem, he’ll do it. Especially since the blocker plays five special teams, giving him the flexibility that Tomlin LOVES.

by Homer J. on Aug 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few other quick thoughts:

— Anyone else feeling us keeping Ziggy and R. Harris for our DL? Ziggy got a sack and did his dance, but I thought R. Harris showed a motor and athleticism, pushed the pocket, pressured the QB and did a lot of good things. Nick Eason, nice to know!

— 5 RBs make this squad (FWP, Mendy, M. Moore, Redman, the Tank). Carey Davis, thanks for knocking out that Raven in the AFC championship game, but don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

— Starting to like that young depth on the OL. I think Legursky, T. Hills, R. Foster, K. Urbik and Jason Capizzi have a lot of potential. A.Q. Shipley I think is head to the practice squad. There still has to be one more cut somewhere, particularly if Stapleton returns soon. Well, I guess the next 3 games will determine that.

— 5 WRs that you can book (Ward, Holmes, Sweed, McDonald, Wallace). The top 3 by the end of the season (Holmes, Ward, Wallace). Just think Wallace has better hands than Sweed and the Steelers will need this kid on the field to open up room for Hines, Santonio and Heath.

— Bruce Davis is going to have a difficult time beating out Patrick Bailey. Davis might be better in the base defense right now, but Bailey is a special teams missile on coverage units. Which would you rather have as an 8th LB?

— A lot of hard decisions to make in the secondary. The final call could come down between K. Ratliffe and A. Madison. Who would you keep, knowing that Ratliffe would probably be your 4th safety (and your 3rd corner) if anything happened to Willie Gay and Ike Taylor. Madison is a good on special teams but if he has to play corner, your defense is hurting (yes, even despite his sick one-handed interception last night).

— Dennis Dixon, welcome to the Big Time. Bout time you joined the party. Now just keep getting better every day for the rest of the preseason and you might do more than just carry a clip board this year.

— Any of you have the feeling that Tomlin had a smile on his face when he had a moment to himself after the game and when he woke up this morning? He knows he has a loaded squad. Now, if the team can just stay away from injuries and distractions, and cut Carey Davis ….

by datruth4life on Aug 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree,,,

… on Bruce Davis.

1. He’s battling Arnold Harrison not Bailey.
2. He’s was the only second string LB to generate QB pressure.
3. Only Fox was around the ball more often.
4. and he made his first special teams tackle(woohoo!). ; )

He has some glaring flaws though: needs to push the pocket better and watching him backpedal is painful/hilarious but the only way he should be cut is if he stops learning.

PS. He’s gonna block a punt before the preseason is over.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Aug 14, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Even ignoring the INT which was something of a fluke, I thought Davis applied consistent pressure. Thought he played really well. He’s definitely stepped it up. You figure Frazier is the #1 backup for the OLBs right now but I think, especially if he can play on ST this year by the end of the year it could be Davis who has that role, and plays situationally as well.

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the big difference was aggressiveness and speed to the ball for Davis. He looked like a Steelers LB out there, not a great one, but he played the way we play LB, and that’s a big step for him.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will block a few this season!

Oh yeah, I predict we are going to block a few punts this year, anyone wanna bet? lol

by setherian on Aug 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Datruth, disagree (slightly) about Wallace v. Sweed

Agree that the sky’s the limit in terms of explosiveness and game breaking potential. However, I like what Sweed gives you over the entire field. While not as fast as Wallace (who is?) he is just as capable of getting behind coverage deep. And because he’s big and fast creates terrible matchup problems for the opposing secondary. Case in point, both of his catches in the first half Thursday. In both cases he is not so much open but uses his size and athleticism to create an advantage where based on the sound nature of the coverage none should exist. Think of Larry Fitzgerald’s touchdown catch in the endzone against Ike. Taylor was in perfect coverage, didn’t matter. If (big if mind you) he catches the ball reliably, then he becomes a Fitzgerald/Randy Moss type receiver, a player who can both stretch the field and can be virtually impossible to cover.

What I think we may see this year and beyond are more four receiver formations, forcing teams to chose who they are going to match their #4 defender against and making it harder to cover if they don’t take Ben down in the first three to four seconds. It also allows for Wallace to put more time into STs work. Eventually, we may be seeing a Sweed/Wallace tandem every bit as imposing as Plax/Hines and Hines/Tone. I just don’t see an either or solution if both players continue to perform well. You figure out a way to get both on the field.

by RickVa on Aug 15, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I think we may see this year and beyond are more four receiver formations, forcing teams to chose who they are going to match their #4 defender against and making it harder to cover if they don’t take Ben down in the first three to four seconds.

Given that that plan will endanger Ben even further, I fully expect Arians to implement it.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 15, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

warftr5, can't agree with you about C. Davis

Davis is good on special teams, but he ain’t great. However, his real problem is that he offers you nothing as a FB on offense. I’m still pulling for one or both of the rookies to make it. I still think Summers is going to show you more as he gets more comfortable in the FB and RB roles. Redman will get some more carries against stiffer competition to show if he is for real or not.

As for Davis, he is what he is, a mediocre backup FB (Sean McHugh is the no. 1 FB on this team anyway) whose best asset is his ability to cover punts and kickoffs. With the talent currently on this squad, that shouldn’t be enough for him to stick around.

by datruth4life on Aug 14, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

big job for that FB is to play on passing plays and be a threat out of the back field and read and pick up blitzes.

Tomlin isn’t going to put the running game ahead of protecting Ben. If he does he’s retarded. If Davis makes the squad it will be because no one else was better than him at picking up blitzes and catching passes in the flat.

that shouldn’t be hard to beat him at, but rookies generally struggle with picking up blitzes and you don’t face Baltimore twice a season with blitz pick up as a weakness.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore is better than Davis at picking up blitzes and catching passes in the flat.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 15, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true. I didn’t think about Moore in that equation. If Tomlin plays Moore in that role it would free up Davis’ slot for ST and FB duties, and Tank could win that.

I would love to see it.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isaac Redman

When he was crashing into the end-zone, legs churning, he reminded me of a younger, smaller Bus!

by Gezarik on Aug 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if I'd go that far

He did remind me of the Leron McClain, though.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats not a bad thing though, McClain is a beast

by shleeve on Aug 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I like that possibility

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Aug 15, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DT4L

As always, you make good points and I appreciate the fact that I am unable to view many of these games in person. However, I have heard very little (and seen less) of the substance to go along with the hype on Tank.

I will do this…I will watch the next couple of preseason games with an open mind on Tank and re-engage on this topic as we get closer to cut down day.

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard." - Hines Ward

by warftr5 on Aug 14, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he blocked well...

…and played ST well. I think he might make the roster but as a rookie I wouldn’t expect much more than good blocking and ST work from him. He has a ways to go as a runner and a receiver.

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 14, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Redman > Davis, Vincent, Method Man

by shleeve on Aug 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else feeling us keeping Ziggy and R. Harris for our DL?

.
Good. Someone else is talking about the defensive line and Sonny Harris.

I always end up rooting for some late round draftee and being disappointed when he is cut. I think it will be different this year with Sonny Harris. I was high on him before the draft and I still think that he will make the team. If Ziggy is the next Smith (or better), then I think Sonny can be the next Keisel.

My only question is what plans are being made for replacing Hampton.

Who knew?

by Concomitandt on Aug 14, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we hire a rhino

by shleeve on Aug 14, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The baby elephant at the zoo is getting some size to him, he crushed a zoo keeper one day I was there, he might do well for Hampton.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 15, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

better wait till Hampton is gone though, to bring in the elephant, otherwise Big Snack would eat it.

by shleeve on Aug 15, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two more cents

Starks looked like a guy who just signed a nice contract- not good. Dixon looked comfortable and confident after a few snaps. WR is not gonna be a problem this year. I’m not sold on Redman or Summers yet. Lose Bruce Davis, he is not even close to being a Steeler linebacker. Mendenhall looks timid, and the second string O-line looked good, Capizzi looks huge, Shipley is a football player, no matter what his size is and Ramon Foster looks like a keeper. The starting O-line played in slow motion. Lastly, God bless Sepulveda.

by VinniePie on Aug 14, 2009 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Just re-watched the game and ...

— I was really impressed with the blocking of C Doug Legursky, Ramone Foster and T’s Tony Hills and Jason Capizzi. Legursky got good push on his man in the first quarter and he even recovered on a stunt of a blitzing LB to allow Ben to get off a pass. Is Hartwig that much better than Legursky? I don’t know but I think we’ll find out.

— Capizzi’s technique was flawless when pass blocking. He didn’t get as much push in the run game as you’d like, but he clearly looked better than Parquet, whom he was substituting with. Hills feet actually looked better than Starks’ during the game. Calais Campbell gave Starks a lot of problems in the first quarter.

— I like the way the 2nd OL communicated on stunts and blitzes. It was pretty impressive considering most of them are rookies and 2nd year players.

— K. Lewis caused that fumble on the punt return that the Cardinals recovered (R. Lewis made first contact and K. Lewis cleaned up). K. Lewis, Ratliff and Burnett all looked good at CB. Anthony Madison, not so much, despite that one-handed interception. Leinart completed 5 passes to Madison’s side (4 on one drive) because he gave the WR’s such a large cushion.

— I think Tomlin gave Vincent those carries early on as a courtesy and chance to allow the practice squad player to show something. He didn’t. So, NEXT! I also think those carries during the next 3 games will go to Tank and Redman. Bye, Bye Vincent.

— Tank did a better job blocking than what I thought. Will be interesting to see how he and Redman perform against better competition.

— Bruce Arians must have been on crack when he said Willie Colon is one of the best RT’s in the league. I don’t even think he is the best RT on this team. I really believe Capizzi is (and the crowd laughs). That’s okay. I could be wrong. Or I could be really right. Time will tell.

— Tomlin has quite a few teaching points from this game and will let the young players know that they haven’t done anything and will let the veterans know this could be their last rodeo unless they pick it up (Nick Eason, Carey Davis).

by datruth4life on Aug 15, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BA

is not on crack Truth. He’s just a moron.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Aug 15, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Sweep play for Frank the Tank…yeah thatll wok

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever

by Steeler_ on Aug 16, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More words of wisdom from Bruce Arians

Just wait for it in the next Q & A…

Q: “Coach Arians, what are you thinking running Summers on sweeps? He’s listed at 5’10, 230 pounds if the team website is to be believed, which lets be reasonable now someone’s handwritten 5s must look a lot like 3s because there’s no way that’s right. But anyways, how do you honestly expect a mammoth like that to gain positive yardage on a play designed for a scatback that’s about 60 pounds lighter to sprint around an edge that’s nonexistent because our O-line has yet to be taught how to set one?”

A: “Now I don’t agree with that because I really think Frank’s elusiveness and breakaway speed are highly underrated. To be perfectly honest I think he’s as good a scatback as there is in this league… if I were to compare him to someone I’d say he’s kind of like a Darren Sproles, but faster and more agile. There’s a lot more to it that you guys really don’t see, but he’s running just fine on those plays and doing exactly what we want him to be doing.”

Q: “Coach… he got hit behind the line of scrimmage and was barely able to stumble back forward enough for it to be no gain on the play.”

A: “And then he came right back on the next play with a great, hard run to the right to set us up right where we wanted to be. Heck of a football play.”

Q: “He gained 3-yards on the run which put the offense in another 3rd and long situation. How is that ‘right where we wanted to be?’”

A: “It wasn’t 3rd and short. You guys should know by now that I have no use for 3rd and short, in large part because I have yet to fill out that part of the playbook with ways to reliably convert those situations. But 3rd and 7, 3rd and 8, 3rd and 15, we know exactly what to do in those situations – spread ‘em out with 4 wide and Carey Davis in the backfield, let the rush through so Ben’s survival instincts kick in and he dumps it off to the only eligible receiver he can see with all the defender in his face. The beauty of it though is that on this team our emergency dump off of first resort is actually getting the ball to one of the most reliable and dangerous receiving threats that we have on this offense. In fact, I’d say Carey is the most explosive and dynamic scatback in the league, even better than Frank. Frank’s got a heck of a mentor to look up to and learn from.”

Q: “…what…”

A: “Go ahead and write this down now because you heard it here first. Two words – Pro Bowl. Both of them. Go ahead and punch their tickets to Hawaii.”

Q: “Ok, that’s doubly not happening because the Pro Bowl isn’t even in Hawaii this coming year. Commissioner Goodell moved it to Miami right before the Super Bowl in hopes that people might actually watch it and take an interest for a change.”

A: “Now you’re just making things up. Just wait until Al Davis offers me a head coaching position, I’ll show you what I can really do without a world-class defense constantly bailing my ass out.”

by barnerburner on Aug 16, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lol

I read the first Q/A and thought it was serious hahahaha

Then i read on and realised you were taking the piss

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever

by Steeler_ on Aug 16, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Funny stuff barner

by steeler.lifer on Aug 16, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious

That was a lot of fun to read!
Thanks for sharing.

by LongTimeSteelersFan on Aug 16, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!

Ima hitch onto your wave :)

by steelersgrl on Aug 31, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FRANK THE TANKS BLOCKING

d anybody notice that frank summers had some very good blocks for redman on the goal line? i think i he keeps doing a good job he’ll supplant carey davis as the starter becuase hee has more of a blocking fullbacks build (short but stocky) while davis is more of a recieving fullback andnot a good blocker

by sixburgh757 on Aug 16, 2009 2:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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