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And so ends Plaxico Burress's Career


The man who shot himself in the leg with a gun put in a plea agreement, and is going to serve 2 years of prison. For those of you counting, thats more than Michael Vick, the man who murdered dogs and gambled illegally.

 

For shooting himself in the leg. Granted it was stupid. but Plaxico is not a criminal. I cant honestly believe taxpayer dollars are going to be used on this... I mean he didnt hurt anybody other than himself. You should be allowed to shoot yourself in the leg if you want, even if the weapons not yours.

 

Whats the BTSC thoughts here? Way too harsh in my opinion. Anything over a month of jail is too much here.

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plexico shouldnt be above the law, but they should have considered the circumstances and given him a lighter sentance. he only had the gun to protect himself

by jonesjeffum on Aug 21, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

In a city...

Where you’re not allowed to carry a hand gun with out the proper permit, which he didn’t have.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

permit

Just to be clear, he had a license for the gun, just for the wrong state. That’s not to say he shouldn’t have known better to a) get a gun licensed in the state you’re carrying it, and b) not carry a weapon around with you. You’re not a mafia snitch or a drug-runner or something. You’re just a rich dude in a city with a ton of rich people.

I personally liked Hines Ward take on it (and I’m paraphrasing) “If you feel like you need to carry a gun, you shouldn’t be going there in the first place”

All that said, 2 years is an excessive sentence for stupidity. Sure something worse could have happened, but we generally don’t punish people based on the worst possible outcome. If I get a DUI, I’m not thrown in jail for vehicular manslaughter, even though I could have killed someone. Of course, that might be a bad example, because here in Wisconsin if you get a DUI you’re given a tiny fine and a hearty slap on the back.

by RedBlackandGold on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

expired permit

BTW, the Florida permit had expired six months before the incident in NYC. So the gun was not legally registered in any state at the time.

If administered in real-world consequences instead of the courtroom, the penalty for stupidity is often much harsher than 2 years in jail. For example, if the gun had been pointed slightly to the left, he would have lost an important part of his anatomy. :-)

by Steelin on Aug 21, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sad thing here is...

If he would have injured/killed someone else with the gun and paid the family a big settlement( ala Donte Stallworth running a man over while intoxicated) he might have recieved less time. Well…. if the theoretical family agreed with the settlement and penalty, that is.

"So you think 25 percent of the country is retarded?! Yea. Atleast 25 percent. Well lets so a sample. There are 4 of us an you're retarded. Thats 25 percent." Southpark; Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

by gorillakilla34 on Aug 21, 2009 2:50 AM EDT reply actions  

i dont think so

the gun would still not have been registered. he wouldve only had to deal with a civil suit as well (which is where the money comes in)

by t1mmy10 on Aug 23, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much too harsh of a sentence

Plaxico is really stupid, but not really a bad guy per se, kinda like GW Bush. Jail should be for people who are evil and commit criminal acts, very much like Dick Cheney.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 5:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe

political talks are strictly prohibited on all of SBNation, right?

by John Stephens on Aug 21, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So...

You are using grade school logic? “Well he did it too”

by John Stephens on Aug 21, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

:)

That wasn’t political. It was social. Truthfully I didn’t think it would be as big a deal as it turned out to be. I am African-American therefore can say what I want and I expect you not to be mad because I’m a victim. Plus Carlton Banks looks like me. I’m just kidding…..please don’t flame me. But seriously I guess I didn’t think of how much people worship that guy.

Looks like I did it again below….please forgive me.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 21, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

One time a few months ago I made one comment on a posting

in which I said I was glad to have a very intelligent man in the white house. Never once claiming that anyone before was not intelligent. And several of your right-wing reactionary, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-education, anti-choice, pro-gun cohorts responded in a very vehement fashion saying how wrong it was for me to criticize Shrub and how sick of it they were of people taking shots at Shrubs administration and yadda yadda yadda. I may be paraphrasing a bit. I never said anything beyond that, and haven’t since, until you took your little jab. So, I gave fair warning when you took your shot that time, and this was my response.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

I wasn’t one of the ones that did that. Sometimes I do say things that are meant to be funny….ok I do that all the time but I don’t mean to actually cause harm, but I forget how passionate people are about such things. Maybe I should have listened to my sister the day I pulled the garage door down while she was running inside it, just in time for her to plant her forehead into it and fall on the back of her head….she says “Stop it, you play too much!”

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 21, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1. FANTASITIC move. I did that to a friend in high school, then he tried to get another one of our friends a few weeks later and ended up closing the door on the fender of his dad’s car.

breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.

by NoCal-SteelCity on Aug 21, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I am African-American therefore can say what I want and I expect you not to be mad because I’m a victim”

 That, my friend, was an example of purely masterful parody mixed with the perfect touch of irony!

 I LOL’d.

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know whats funny?

I didn’t expect anyone to respond to that part for fear of being labeled a racist. Then I thought who would be more apt to respond negatively? My answer, all the above. I was laughing when I typed that.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 24, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The political Left

are nearly-fascist in their desperation to impose their ideaology of political righteousness and will relentlessly exploit every opportunity to disseminate their especially noxious version of “truthiness”.

What a surprise that one of BTSC’s most obnoxious and cynical and opportunistic posters is also a self-professed “bleeding-heart liberal”.

Just shows to go ya, i guess…..

/football sans politics

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A personal and political cheapshot, followed by a call for just football discussion? It would be ironic except that it lacks the pretense of ignorance, it’s just ignorant.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 21, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that

A- it had nothing to do with you, “steeler.lifer”

B- it was the first- and last- time i present anything resembling a statement of my political beliefs on BTSC

and

C-at least i have a modicrum of respect for worldtrip, whereas you mean less than nothing to me.

If it ain’t football, here on out, don’t bother address me “steeler.lifer”. Trust me: i’ll return the favor.

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I’ll address all future correspondence to “Occupant”, even if it doesn’t appear there is anyone living there.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the eff are you?

Dickie Petersen, the Cherub of Justice???

How about you just mind your own business, .lifer?

Or-since a blog is the only place you have any (imagined) authority- do you insist on “putting me in my place”?

by tobiathan on Aug 22, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am beloved on BTSC, damnit.

And I am only cynical about obnoxious opportunism. It really does show to go ya.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

One other thing on the sentencing

I did read on ESPN.com that NYC has a straight up policy of 3.5 years for gun possession, period. While I agree Burress should follow the laws, and have to pay for them like everybody else.

But that says to me the overall city policy is too harsh in itself.

And Im liking the bush administration callout worldtrip.

Hell Cheney shot SOMEBODY ELSE in the face and he didnt do time. That was an accident too.

by Mechem on Aug 21, 2009 6:40 AM EDT reply actions  

The city where...

They averaged something like a gun murder every two hours for close to 20 years is too harsh on their gun control laws? Really?

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its still a constitutional right to bear arms

If I hold a steak knife to cut my food, should I be forced to give it up just because some people opt to use that same knife to kill?

by Mechem on Aug 21, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Limited rights...

Per the state. I wasn’t implying he can’t carry the gun, just trying to explain why the city’s laws are as harsh as they are.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 24, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are going to prosecute the guy that did this so....

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 21, 2009 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

BTSC

seems to be in need of a dedicated Political Thread.

 We’re very, very close to high-jacking this one as it is, it seems…..

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

My bad….I can’t erase it now.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 24, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

All Plaxico's fault

    It’s your responsibility as a citizen to know the laws of the land. Is it a harsh sentence? Sure. It’s no ones fault but his own. I feel no sympathy for a guy who contstantly broke rules, and now he’s finally paying the price

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by idiscgolftexas on Aug 21, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah he shot himself...

But if the gun was pointed less than one inch in any direction, he could have shot or killed a completely innocent person with a gun that he shouldn’t of legally had in his possession, or in New York City for that matter.

If I accidentally drive my car through a playground, but don’t hit anybody’s kid, should there be no penalty for me either?

I do feel the sentence was harsh, but it was a sentence he agreed to with the plea deal. If he had thought he could have done better in court, he should have taken it there. No one surprised him with a long sentence, he knew what he was getting before he said guilty.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Playground analogy is very apt.

Also it is a reckless idiot who has a loaded gun without knowing where it is pointed at all times. That is just basics.

by steelerstyle on Aug 21, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

In my opinion...

This was a case of a bad lawyer catching a good break. Plax was looking at at least 3 1/2 years in jail, and ended up with two. If someone told me I was going to serve at least 3 1/2 and I got just two, I’d be happy with that. I wouldn’t be happy about going to jail, but serving just over 50% of what I could have, I can settle for, if I have to.

Plax’s lawyer really did not help his case. I remember reading the article on ESPN from one of his hearings, his lawyer made these points to the press in front of the court:
1. The gun was registered in Florida, Plax did not know he needed to register it in NYC too. Really? So ignorence of the law is a legit excuse now? Good point by his legal advisor.
2. Plax hurt no one but himself. Okay, true, but he did carry an unlicenced firearm into a public setting and discharge it, accidentally or not, this is inexcusable.

He made one more attempt to jusify an illegal action, but I can’t remember it off the top of my head and I don’t want to misquote him and in turn mislead anyone here. In the interest of fairness, I was not a Plaxico fan, but did not dislike him as a person, he needed to do some growing up while in Pittsburgh, but never did, even in New York. His short sightedness and immaturity caught up to him in a bad way. The man is lucky he didn’t hurt anyone else. I’m an NRA member, I feel responsible gun use and ownership is something that makes our country great, but it is stories like this that make it harder and harder to argue that point.

Here is the capper:

“If Plaxico Burress were not a high-profile individual, there never would be a case,” he said. “If he were just John Q Public he could have walked out of the club and he never would have been arrested.”

How petty and bitter does that sound? I’d argue if he was nobody, “John Q. Public” as he said, he would have been tackled or what not the second the gun came out of his pocket in the club, the hospital would of reported it to the authorities, as they are legally obligated to do (but did not), and he would of served the full 3 1/2 years, instead of being offered a plea deal. I’d also argue if he wasn’t who he was, Antonio Pierce would have been prosecuted for carrying an illegal firearm across state lines (thus hiding criminal evidence), as he admitted to doing, and the hospital employees would have been at least fired for not reporting the crime (which to my knowledge they were not). Sometimes you just have to chalk a minor loss up to a minor win and get on with it already. Your not going to win anyone over with arguements like that.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's stunning

how distorted some people’s perspectives can be on a given topic.

 I’m an avowed supporter of gun-rights and ownership. I think every American has a lega right AND responsibility to keep and bear arms. But rights always go hand-in-hand with responsibilities.

 Burress, as a high-profile figure, NEVER embraced the responsibilities of fame, or of financial success. Or even of adulthood. As a Steeler he regurlarly made immature, childish decisions and used nonsensical excuses for his failure to abide by team rules and guidelines. His priority was always excercizing his “rights” without ever abiding by his responsibilities. He’s a perfect example of a generation of Americans who want freedoms but don’t want to have to surrender anything for them.

 As a result of his “do what i WANT to!” attitude, the Steelers released, despite Ben’s request that he be resigned. The Pittsburgh FO saw what was coming: a meltdown by gifted athlete who was more child than man. Thankfully, he was only injured in that meltdown, but it could have been much, much worse.

 Burress does NOT represent a good example of a gun-owner. He is not responsible. He obviously had ZERO knowledge of the nature or functionality of the weapon he chose to carry so casually. By stuffing a Glock into his waistband he showed himself to be immature, foolish, childish, arrogant, careless and flat-out dangerous.

 A Glock is a combat handgun. It is a double-stacked magazine-fed semi-automatic firearm with no active safety mechanism and only a passive trigger safety to prevent unintended firing. It is a tool meant for professional and trained use ONLY. NOT for toting into a bar to impress gullible drunk chics. Without an active, locking safety mechanism the Glock will fire every time the trigger is depressed past a certain threshold. That makes it completely inappropriate for “waistband/sweatpants” carry.

 Additionally- Burress must have intentionally, manually locked and loaded a round into the chamber of the weapon for it to have fired “accidentally” as it did. When a magazine is loaded into an empty Glock, no round will cycle into the barrell chamber unless done so manually by the firearm’s operator. So- Plaxico MUST have known the weapon was not only “loaded” but “locked AND loaded”.

 Finally, carrying a combat handgun locked-and-loaded in the waistband of sweatpants is something only a total moron would do. The Glock, when loaded, weighs a few pounds and is highly unlikely to stay put in your waistband without some sort of holster mechanism. A multi-millionaire like Burress surely could have afforded an IWB holster if he absolutely HAD to carry a locked-and-loaded combat firearm into a bar.

 One wrong move could’ve put that bullet thru the heart of someone’’s daughter, son, sister, brother. And for what? So some immature brat wanted to play tough-guy?

 The NFL offers, FREE to ALL players, trained and armed security professionals. Burres had zero excuse in saying he “needed protection”.

 Finally- Plaxico, and Pierce, lied, denied and tried to hide the whole episode from everyone until they were FORCED to admit everything, under threat of arrest. Not the actions of a responsible adult by a long, long shot.

 This is not some isolated episode of “bad luck” for Plaxico Buress. This was the result of a lifetime attitude of “I’ll do what I want. FTW!”

 Only, it wasn’t the world that got f*cked, was it?

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

   Wasn’t there a story out there, that several months ago he was offered a plea deal that would have required him to serve only a few months? If that is true, than dude really is an arrogant jerk.

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by idiscgolftexas on Aug 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes he was

Early on in the case and he denied it saying “I am afraid of jail”.

by John Stephens on Aug 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boy he sure made a bad call there.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truly

Its funny though, all of the sports talk stations are ripping on him for being such a sissy and having it backfire horribly on him.

by John Stephens on Aug 21, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

he shoulda done what vick did

He should have started serving early. the minute I saw they delayed the trial, back in June, I knew he was screwed. Because he should have just bit the bullet then, he might have had a chance to play again.

by Mechem on Aug 21, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

15 months

was, i believe, the original offer on the guilty plea

by tobiathan on Aug 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plax

Nothing worse than wasted talent. I am happy he didn’t hurt anyone other than himself and agree with those above that feel this sentence was too harsh.

The Plax moment I will remember most is when he made his first big catch with the Steelers and spiked the ball even though no one had touched him. Classic! He needed to learn the rules his entire career.

I will refrain from making political statements as worldtrip regularly does around BTSC. This is not a political blog or political topic. Save that kool aid cr*p (both sides) for cnn.com or FOX.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Aug 21, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

really?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Aug 21, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have to admit it world. Check your archives. I can think of at least 3-5 instances since XLIII where you have seasoned your comments with political opinion which is sometimes quite mean spirited. I know exactly where you stand on many political issues and with many candidates and the 2 major parties. How can that be unless you were regularly espousing some “political party talking points.”

Seriously dude, I am totally into politics and the issues of the day. I am very educated on many of the topics being discussed in the news and could hold my own (and regularly have) against any conservative or liberal college professor in a debate or discussion. IMO BTSC is not the place to pick on democrats or republicans. BTSC is the place to pick on Cowgirls and BrownRavens…

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Aug 21, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made some comments back a while ago that were in response to negative comments made about President Obama. I made the one comment several months ago that I mentioned above in which I simply made a positive statement about our current president that generated a huge reaction, particularly from NYSteelerfansomethingorother that I haven’t seen in a while. I have made no comments since.

We clearly have different definitions of “regularly”. I have made clear my reason for the comment I made on this posting. As long as others stay out of the political arena, so will I.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What did I say?

I’m not trying to break chops here, I don’t remember any of this. I am a political person, I won’t deny that, but I do not remember this specific instance.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm not the...

NYSteelerfansomethingorother you were talking about then. I’m not trying to argue or even goat you into an arguement, I just thought since I assumed you were talking about me, and you remembered me saying something a few monthes back, you’d remember what I said. If I’m jumping the gun (no pun intended) and you haven’t gotten around to reading my first response yet, I apologize. Curiosity is eating at me.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was not you

The guy had a picture of his wife in a bathing suit as an avatar.

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries man...

Like I said, curiosity. I think your funny, most of the time at least. (Haha) Keep on keeping on.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 21, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s “regular” when you can start a list.
But it’s all good worldtrip. You have some good takes. Your best ones are about the Steelers.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Aug 21, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems harsh but...

…that is attributable to the law itself, not the prosecutors who are charged with applying it within the jurisdiction. If Plax had gone to trial and lost he’d be serving 3 1/2 years in prison, minimum, based on statutory requirements. And once the grand jury indicted him on all counts, there was no realistic chance he could have won. Therefore, the offer of 2 years to a lesser charge is arguably a reasonable compromise. I can’t think of any legitimate motivation an NY prosecutor would have to approach the situation differently.

We compare Plax’s plight to Vick and Stallworth, I agree, Plax’s punishment appears to be disproportionate compared to these other two, but the important thing to keep in mind is that with Vick and Stallworth the applicable laws did not include similar mandatory jailtime requirements; in short, the applicable laws allowed prosecutors much more flexibility and discretion to exercise mercy wtih Vick and Stallworth. The NY gun law, in contrast, does not. We can blame the NY legislators who drafted the gun law and say the required punishment is too extreme, but it’s much harder to blame the courts and the prosecutors who are only enforcing the law as it is written, they would not be doing their jobs if they did any less.

by gcn on Aug 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

My two bits

On Plax: Carrying a loaded handgun, stuffing it into your sweat pants (however fashionable they may be) and walking into a crowded public place is a criminally stupid act. Throw in the fact it occurred in a city and state well known for tough handgun laws and I have no sympathy whatsoever for Burress. Bye bye. I wonder if Drew Rosenhaus, his agent and lawyer who knew Plax had a handgun and that Florida state ownership didn’t exempt him from getting it re-registered, ever took the time to explain that to him.

On non-football related conversation: It’s all good. Helps us get to know the people who contribute regularly. If the topic becomes tirelessly boring and irrelevant I just stop reading the thread.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

shoulda hired a lawyer with more connections and bribed the right people...

jeez…anyone knows thats how it REALLY works. Ultimately who really cares because what he did was stupid and whatever he got he deserved. Let’s just hope for plax’s sake that the whole bit about him being afraid of jail doesn’t get out in his cell block! jeez

by SteelersFnRule on Aug 22, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

His lawyer was pretty good dude

He paid out for that lawyer… and he tried a bunch of tricks.

given the initial stance that the DA and the Mayor stated, he should have just bent over and taken it right quick.

by Mechem on Aug 22, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

About the sentencing

You just cannot compare cases of other types. We all know that laws vary from state to state and you cannot compare manslaughter to rape etc. He got off pretty good with the time he was given compared to the law. I’m not sure why anyone thought he was going ot get off at all after what the mayor (or whomever it was) made the public statement after the incident.

Also, his career is FAR from over. He’s too tall and too physical. He’ll be a red zone threat into his late 30’s. Speed was never his forte anyway.

by jharmon64 on Aug 23, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

you have it all wrong

plaxico didn’t get 2 years for shooting himself. he got 2 years for illegally carrying a gun…which was also loaded & he was probably drunk while handling the firearm. when the gun slipped out of his sweatpants waist band and he accidentally shot himself, it could’ve been pointed at someone else in the club and hit the innocent bystander instead.

by t1mmy10 on Aug 23, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This frustrates me

I heard the idiot talking heads on 1250AM discussing this, and it really pisses me off that folks are not understanding what really happened here.

Plaxico got a break.

New York City, fighting increasing gang violence, put a law on the books saying if you are caught within the city limits with a gun, you go to prison for three years. Period. MANDATORY MINIMUM sentencing. A judge can put you away for more… but not less.

This law was put in place so any time the police caught a gang-banger packing, he had just cause to arrest him, and get him off of the street. The law worked. Shootings went down in New York dramatically after the law went into effect.

Plax should have been put away for three years. I am sure there are a lot of lawyers of gang-members who are going to be trying to use this case to justify reducing sentences of their clients. IMHO, New York DA made a mistake by cutting Plaxico a break.

The fact is that Plaxico undoubtedly knew the law. Everyone – even wanna be thugs such as Plax — knows about this handgun law. And, with his wealth and connections, he could have easily had a permit for the gun. One phone call was all it would have taken.

But Plaxico thought he was above the law. He found out differently… or maybe he didn’t. Since he only got two years, maybe he was right about being above the law… But he isn’t so far above that he gets off scott free.

It may well be that Donte Stallworth is getting off too easy… In fact, a million other people are getting off too easy.. but Plaxico Burress is getting less that what he deserves. Shed no tears for him…

by MarkJoel66 on Aug 24, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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