Exactly it is a post so you need to chill. I am stating my opnion is that Batch sucks and is past his prime. I may not be the best writer but I am trying to envision what could have been had he retired. What has batch done in the last 2 years? Nothig more than Vick or Dixon. So please don’t be so harsh with your opinionative arrogance.

Please put the text i used in a grey box that makes Dixon sound like the best QB in the league. I can’t find it?

We had already squandered it on bums like #7, #43, #86, and most recently #83.

Those guys are bums!!! I’d much rather have Vick.

Batch was a good #2 two years ago…
He was a good #2 for his duration with the team.
But after what I saw Saturday, it has become painfully obvious that father time has caught up with Charlie.
If Ben went down 2 years ago, I’d be ok with Charlie coming in and holding the fort down.
If Ben goes down week 4, I’m gonna cry if Charlie starts taking snaps…

The guy just doesn’t fit the Steeler mold. Arians isn’t willing to pull all those trick plays, and it’s been made clear that Vick is coming back to be a QB, nothing else. Plus regardless of the connections to Tomlin and Tomlin to Dungy to Vick, the Steelers don’t want anything to do with a guy like Vick, reformed or not. Dennis Dixon’s gone for a couple weeks, but he’s our 3rd string. Batch has yet to let us down in a major way or give us any reason to believe he can’t perform at an acceptable level any more.

Vick’s been out of football two years, was pretty much a running back with a strong arm before he was canned, and really just a fantasy at this point. Plus the guy won’t be able to dress for one third of the season, so what’s the point. Just let it go will ya!

And concerning Batch read this :

The frustrating thing to me is all the support that a backup QB that is past his prime and a year removed fro competitive football is getting. I wrote this post to bring attention to the fact that Charlie is not a viable 2. Instead people seem to focus my Vick and Dixon comments. With Vick it is simple, i never suggested him as an answer at 2, but instead a threat out of the backfield, nobody knows how this would work because it never has been done. Instead everyone seems to be steadfast against it. On a side note I believe the man has served his time for the crime he commited. He has never had a positive male role model to look up to and I think it would have been interesting to monitor his maturation process as a man and a football player under the tutelage of Mike Tomlin. God knows he has the skills, why are we all so against seeing someone defeat the odds and over come enormous amounts of adversity and pressure bestowed by the media. I root for these kind of people not against them, it is unethical to encourage ones demise unless you are ignorant.

Omar Jacobs? Kordell? My opinion is simple, Batch has not played relevent football since 2006 season. We were real good that year. The Colts, Giants, and Steelers have won Superbowls since he has played a relevent game. He is no longer suited to quarterback an NFL team period. Denny Dixon in my opinion is head and shoulders above Charlie at this stage of their respective careers.
Now to challenge my knowledge, it is not that far off.
Everybody wants to live in the past, it is 2009 and the game is forever evolving. You can be an innovator or a follower.

Good point PA Army Officer.

Also, who’s the guy always standing next to Ben on the sidelines, talking to him?

I still think Batch has the skills to take the team down the field (hey, it was 10-3 Steelers when the first team offense left the field against the Redskins — and they were the #4 def last year that added Orakpo and Albert Painsworth.

But what Charlie brings on weekdays and also for almost being a coach/mentor to the rest of the offense on game days makes him worth the roster spot.

I actually know a few of Mike Vick’s cousins. The ones I met are really nice people. My wife had one in her class at Newport Academy (right next to Woodside High in Newport News). This school is for the emotionally disturbed. They lived in an area in Newport NEws called “the bottom”. The rule in “the bottom” is survival of the fittest. You hustle to make it. I feel for them because they have two things going on. One: The area they are from doesn’t produce much of anything positive. Two: It’s almost like they are cursed with a sort of mental block. He didn’t leave VT early because he wanted to (that may have been a factor) but he had to leave because his GPA was close to zero. I’m not saying this to be negative. I’m saying this to help you to undesrtand him a little better. While I believe a man can make it out of the dregs and be something, some people have some tremendous odds to overcome.

Now: His skills are ridiculous. They are almost worth the risk. The type of guy Vick is (I’m guessing he much like the family member I know) he can be mentored well by a strong person, but that would be a day and night job. The reason? If you give him too much time without you guiding him, it won’t take much to distract him. This could lead to another bad decision.

I don’t know where I’m going with this or what I’m trying to say exactly, but I like the guy and I love his skills but I don’t know if the Steelers would want to have to do what they would need to do to keep him on track in the off season. My vote would have to be no….but it would be my head overruling my heart. My heart sees those skills and says heck yeah. My head says..Waaaaaay too much baggage.

Uhhh I am an avid social drinker here and nothing bad has come of it. You cannot blame stupidity on the alcohol. If you are stupid you are going to make stupid decision sober or drunk. Stallworth made the stupid decision of getting behind the wheel of the car.

I hate Vick more than probably anyone on these boards, but the man can’t have a social life? He just spent 2 years in jail with a bunch of dudes. If I was him I would also be out living up life and hanging around women.

Keeping that all in mind, I still think Vick has a criminal mind, and I would not be surprised if we find his hand in that cookie jar again.