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Report from Steelers Camp Day Five: Receivers Catching On


The most dynamic aspect of the team today was the wide receiving corp.   Mike Tomlin asked Hines to be a coach today, and for good reason.  The competition for the third spot and beyond is as fierce as any position this summer and the staff wants to see as much as they can to make good decisions.  Giving Hines reps would not help that cause; thus his inactivity thus far in camp.

Limas Sweed definitely looks like a different guy this year.  There is no bigger learning curve than from year one to year two, and the most important thing Sweed has learned is that no one is going to hand him anything.  He was one of those college guys whose talent carried him to elite status.  The last 12 months have taught him that when everyone is special, no one is special.  Another motivation for him is the fact that he longer has a free pass.  Being a high-draft rookie, he knew he wasn't going to get cut.  Sitting behind Nate Washington, he was sufficiently insulated from pressure.  This year, sans Nate, much has changed.  You can clearly see Limas's motivation, sense of urgency, comfort zone and better knowledge of the NFL game.

Sweed's sense of urgency is prompted by four hungry players, none of whom give a tinker's damn about Limas's expectations.  Shaun McDonald has been around the block and it shows.  He looks sharp and quick and knows how to use his hands.  He's getting a good look from the staff and he did not disappoint today.  After practice I asked Maryrose which player she was most impressed with.  She said "I can't answer because I don't know who that #87 guy is."  True she's a kid, but if McDonald caught her eye, it surely caught everyone elses.

Next on the list was Martin Nance.  You can see the rapport between him and Ben from their college days.  Nance had a good day today.  It's still hard for me to see a seat on the bus for him, but his presence is raising the stakes at the table for all the others to take notice and step up their game.  Nance got alot of reps today and you wonder if Ben didn't lobby the staff to give him a fair shake.

Mike Wallace looks like this year's Limas.  Raw talent, doesn't look ready, but protected by his valuable draft position and future promise.  Wallace also has the added weapon of kick return potential.  If Sweed and McDonald continue their ways, and all four (Hines and Tone) stay healthy (of course), Wallace won't be counted on to catch any passes this season.  Again, this year's Sweed.

Dallas Baker is still in the mix, and hasn't looked bad lately, but it is awfully difficult to be the seventh guy on the charts.  The Steelers have hung onto this guy for a reason, but there are too many cooks in that kitchen these days.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Baker on another team this season.  His time on our practice squad has run out.

It's early, of course, but for whatever it's worth, the biggest difference to me this year in camp, compared to last year, is the high-level and energetic competition we are having at the wide receiver corp.  From Latrobe, over and out.

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Great to hear we have five great receivers.

My only serious concern here, rose, is where “a tinker’s damn” comes from. That’s a new one on me.

by betelgeuse on Aug 4, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Peabody

My mother went to Peabody High, Homer, having grown up in East Liberty….of course, this was back in the 1930s.

Nice to hear the genesis of these oft-used expressions.

by swissvale72 on Aug 5, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whether this is made up or real, it’s a great post.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great explanation!

It historical references like these that allow me to justify to wife so much of my time spent on this blog!!!!

Btw, love Charles Grodin. What was the movie with him, as the accountant, and Robert Dinero? Great movie…just forgot the title.

by SteelerMike on Aug 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Midnight Run, I think

My Father and brother also attended Peabody.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Aug 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news on Sweed, if he turns out to be what we thought he would be then look out, its Plaxico Burress minus the attitude. Can’t wait.

by shleeve on Aug 4, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Love the news on Sweed. Always had mad faith in him, as long as stays healthy, i expect him to really tear it up this year

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 4, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice quote from Tomlin

"Hines has money in my emotional bank account, so I take care of Hines," said Tomlin.

Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"

by SteelersChatPack on Aug 4, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

other reports i'm hearing

is that mike wallace will be much better this year than sweed was last year. He’s got a cockiness to him that can be valuable in creating the confidence needed to run with vets, and he’s tough as well as smoking fast.

I can’t wait for the first preseason game.

by syrsteelerfan on Aug 5, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The early guess here

Is that Wallace may indeed have impact, but not catching passes. At least that is if Sweed and McDonald produce and they all stay healthy. Of course, that could be a premature conjecture.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just damn excited.

I’ve been pullin’ for Sweed since the moment we drafted him; the guy is a real humble kid and is just one of the people you want to see succeed. I like Wallace, and if what is being done in camp translates to the fields on Sundays, we could have an outstanding deep threat on our hands, that not only replaces good old Nate Washington but surpasses him. I do agree though that Wallace won’t see a lot of action this year. I’d be shocked if he gets more than 15 catches. Still, I wouldn’t rule out that a couple of those catches may very well be TD’s.

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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 5, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I have the Sweed love too

Been real excited on his prospects, and was never ever off this guys bandwagon, unlike some who dumped him after 1 bad drop

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweed is going to be our next SB MVP.

And Wallace will follow up the SB after that.

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

Id like Big Ben to get one

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, he’s just a game manager…

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truthfully

I think it’d be hilarious if someone random got it. Like I don’t know, hmm what if Willie Colon is MVP, can OTs be MVP?

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. We’ll just need to put Fast Willie Colon in at TE.

by shleeve on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are all wrong. LeCharles Bentley!!

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you too

Lefty! Oh, am I a year late….?

by acrollet on Aug 5, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given the skill position bias

What would it even take for an OT to be MVP?

by yrro on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He would have to pick up a few fumbles and turn them into TDs. That is the only thing I can think of.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

I think it would most likely take at least completely shutting down a top 3 DE, aswell as maybe a fumble TD like Steelguy said, but a tackle elgible TD wouldn’t hurt either. Basically all of the above… or a miracle.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would take

Not giving up a single sack all year, and opening up such huge holes on a consistent basis that my mother would be able to recognize how well plays.

by worldtrip on Aug 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrong

The RB would get the MVP nomination for sure.

I maintain my conviction that returning multiple fumbles for TDs is the only way.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willie Colon

would get an MVP for not getting flagged.

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to come up with realistic scenarios.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes probably,

unless the running yards were broken up pretty evenly over two or three backs, canceling out they’re votes. Then maybe. Big maybe though. Again, just trying to find a scenario. If he did all the things I just said, plus add a touchdown or two on tackle eligible plays.

by worldtrip on Aug 5, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, what if the OT was decently well known and went up against a 20 sack DPOY DE (say, Julius Peppers in a career year vs. a healthy Pace) – making that matchup one of the premier battles to watch (esp if a guy like Madden was the commentator) – and he completely dominated him in all phases of the game? On top of that, the running back(s) ran for a good bit of yards, but had 2+ costly fumbles, the QB had a low percentage showing, and no one defense made a big play. Basically a really ugly game, something like 20-14 final score.

You’re probably right, though, 99. It would probably take something like that with a fumble return for a TD.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talk of a linemen dominating a DPOY DE…you got me dreaming.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It happens. A lot of pass rushers can rack up sacks against sub-par tackles, but when they go against top tier tackles, they are often pretty quiet. I remember one game when Orlando Pace was still healthy, he pwned Dwight Freeney for pretty much a whole game.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember the year Osi Umenyiora had 13 sacks…6 came against Winston Justice the backup LT for the Eagles…..so he had 7 sacks in 15 other games…..pretty average

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dreaming of the day a steelers tackle will be able to do that BM.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

WR MVP

Did anyone realize the 2009 Steelers will be the only team in NFL history to have SB MVP’s as starting WRs on the same team?

Forgot where I read it.

by SteelerMike on Aug 5, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Steelers will have total command of the history books near 2025, but good to know. =]

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great stuff MR

Appreciate your observations and naturally they left me begging for more. I’ve read nothing but good things about Tyler Grisham so far and obviously he is way down the depth chart, but it sounds like he is doing what he can to make a positive impression. The other obvious question is who is throwing these passes? Who is hitting receivers in stride and on the money, and who is making them slow down or reach for balls at their feet? Looking forward to your next post. Have fun!

by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the update MR

I’m dying for any info I can get on the West Coast. Ed Bouchette’s chat was pretty generic today so I needed just a little more to keep me going. Your post did the trick. One question…Are there any rookie free agents that are turning heads or making a case for the practice squad?

by Steev1705 on Aug 5, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Just hoping for Sweed to step up

My thing with practice is, its just that, practice. I happen to be a Detroit Pistons B-ball fan and I remember Ben Wallace never hitting a free throw. He stands as the leagues all-time worst. Yet you could watch him before a game and he’d make at least 3/4ths.

I hope thats not the case with Sweed and I hope he’s really showing that promise and he will deliver. I just need to see it in game.

Seems like there are enough other players lighting a fire under his ass though.

by Mechem on Aug 5, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

One additional side bar from camp

Some guy named Piotr Czech kicked a 58-yard field goal. I wonder if the Steelers will stay connected to this guy until Reed’s 2010 situation is known.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Aug 5, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Latrobe is not Heinz Field. I wouldn’t get overally excited about one field goal.

by shleeve on Aug 5, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any news on Stapleton?

I haven’t heard anything on his status/injury.

by John Stephens on Aug 5, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

@jimwexell No Stapleton this morning, of course, and no update. Everyone’s clamming up.

by John Stephens on Aug 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

Wexell just tweeted that Shipley is “opening coaches’ eyes”. Too bad I can’t read more due to my inability to read the paid articles. If ONLY someone who could wou ld drop a few hints… (cough cough) ;-)

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by LV Steelers Fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think

he meant that Shipley bought them coffee.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Aug 5, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

its a free article…here is the link

http://pit.scout.com/2/884593.html

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Aug 5, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are so full of crap.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow…sorry it was free earlier today…

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must have gotten too many hits

so they upgraded it.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Aug 5, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anything about Alejandro is going to be popular.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of popular

I heard Casey Hampton had a reality show. He had people compete to create his touchdown dance should he score one this year. Here are the finalists.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think i saw this one time on that Planet Earth show…………I think the episode was about whales……

by shleeve on Aug 5, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can the whales play offensive line?

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only can they play offensive line, but they can also be one of the best RTs in the league.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then Bruce Arians woke up

This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.

by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

and put down the joint

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since we are just updating the most recent post, here’s a report from http://www.steelerfury.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1643&start=0

- Dennis Dixon got a tremendous amount of work today. Dixon was called to run the 2nd team offense today in the 2min drills while Homestead Charle watched from the sidelines (interesting). Dixon played cautious, but good. He didn’t force the home run ball and stayed close to medium range. His passes were sharp and accurate and he seemed comfortable in the pocket.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

MR
I love your writing, just a couple of nits to pick here.
1. The learning curve is the biggest in year one, which is why receivers have a hard time in their first year and it gets easier after that. The bigger the learning curve, the harder it is to learn.
2. I think Limas was motivated last year and Wallace is this year, it is more that it is hard to be a rookie WR than motivation. Your post makes it sound like Sweed was coasting last year and that’s why he sucked. It’s more he sucked because of the large learning curve.

That’s all, thanks for the post.

by Cols714 on Aug 5, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/PIT
Aug 5 2009 | 9:46:34 am
You don’t see this very often at Ravens training camp: Two boys wearing Ben Roethlisberger jerseys and one sporting Hines Ward’s No. 86. The Ravens fans next to them have been on their best behavior.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets Hope This is His Year

After a post season and offseason of calling him “Lame-ass” Sweed… I am waiting for him to join the fray and become the receiver wer were all excited about on draft day. If not, we are one hit away from a long season for Big Ben… unless they have a trade or free agent in their back pocket for later.

by Meekway on Aug 5, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

A bit dated, but this is one hell of a report from saturday.

http://www.draftsteel.com/ff/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7491&sid=5f9722d080a90231d8e16058e8b27dc5&start=0

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That is a real horrorshow post.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

cam

-The defense is working on a 6 man blitz package. No two plays look anything alike. It looks like someone sets off 6 bottle rockets that shoot in random directions at random times and intertwine like pretzels, but all 6 players end up at the QB.

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by Alba on Aug 5, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

cam -> can't wait for the season to begin!

(return key too close to apostrophe)

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by Alba on Aug 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice note from day 6

Summers is lookin a little better after being rocked a couple of times.

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jimwexell The Tank was lowering his shoulder this morning. Coaching is kicking in. Couldnt help but think of Bus when DBs converged.

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by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

R. Clark comments on Suggs T-Shirt dissing Steelers

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/viewfromthepressbox/

“One of the quotes of camp belongs to the always quotable Ryan Clark.

The colorful free safety was asked about the T-shirt Ravens defensive end Terrell Suggs wore last week that said on the back, “You Bet Your Sweet (rhymes with sass) I Hate The Steelers.”

Clark said the Steelers didn’t want to get drawn into any back and forth sniping. But, he added, “They can wear their shirts. I guess while they wear their shirts, I’ll wear my ring and we’ll see which ones look nicer.”

Zing!"

by datruth4life on Aug 5, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Lolley seems inclined to think that Stapleton is done for most if not all of the year.

Good news for Stapleton haters. Bad news for those of us that actually pay attention.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Shipley, Legursky or other

One of these guys makes the final 53 as a result. Does anyone know who has more “position flexibility” along the line? If memory serves, Shipley has little if any. I don’t know about Legursky. Or, does the FO go after a free agent or scout the waiver wire near the final cuts?

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waiver wire

would be worth a look for sure.

by worldtrip on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

If Essex is the starter at RG, that would mean our backups at every single position along the line have only ever played in mop up time, IF that.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a rehabbed Simmons

Would be better of any of those yet to dip their foot in the pool…..maybe we shouldve held on, although i do not know the extent of the seriousness of his injury

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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OL:

Colon
Essex
Hartwig
Kemo
Starks

Urbik
Capizzi
Shipley
Foster
Parquet
Hills

If Stapler is out for the season, we have 11 total OLs, only 5 with any experience at all to fill a minimum of 9 spots. Of the 6 backups, 3 are rookies and one has been absolutely wretched in every practice so far. If Stape is out and we don’t do any more shuffling, I’d guess Hills is out and we keep 10.

Maybe the Bucs would take a 7th rounder for Sean Mahan…

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You beat me to it Trip

I was trying to figure out a way to mention the unmentionable but I see you’ve already mentioned it. The only other possibility that makes sense is LeCharles Bentley.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just about to list them out. That’s very ugly:

Urbik – 3rd round pick, rookie
Capizzi – UDFA journeyman that hasn’t stuck anywhere with no playing time
Shipley – 7th round rookie
Foster – UDFA rookie
Parquet – 7th round journeyman with no playing time
Hills – 4th round wuss

I wouldn’t feel comfortable with a single one of those guys playing back up. We’re one injury away from one of them starting. Hartwig currently isn’t practicing because of an injury.

Mahan stinks, he’d be the best backup on the line. LeCharles Bentley would single-handedly carry the steelers to another ring.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which raises the question

could the o—line be worse this year then last. I think the answer is a definite yes. One serious injury could put us in serious trouble.

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Essex and Legursky start we should probably have Dixon be the starting QB just to see what the sack ratio is.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should have Dixon as the starting qb

ummmm……………..Ben would probably get sacked a lot. Ok now you go!!!

by worldtrip on Aug 5, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by some small miracle Stape only needs arthroscopic knee surgery or some other procedure that will have him miss less than half a season, I’d be more comfortable with it, since Essex can pretty much play anywhere on the line. If we have multiple season ending injuries, though, that is really really ugly.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, Mahan credit to you Badmaafala

Well done!!! The same thought has running around in my head like a test lab mouse on crack.

Anyway, my bigger concern is Hartwig’s status. Toe injuries (if that’s what he actually has) can be hellacious to recover from and play through. This is exactly the situation I was worried about this spring, the lack of depth on the O-line. It’s nice to want continuity but you ALWAYS need more people than you think. But losing the top IOL backup AND the starting center would be potentially catastrophic. The only good thing is the timing. It’s early and some passable veterans will become available.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legursky

Legursky will definitely make the roster before Jeremey Parquet or Ramon Foster. I am from MS and Parquet went to my school, USM, and we played against Foster and still without playing favorites Legursky will most likely beat them out for a roster spot. He has exp. on the psquad and is playing with the first team offense right now.. He will be the num. 1 backup for C if Stapleton goes down. Barring a miracle, Foster, Shipley, and Parquet will be beaten out.

by MSsteele on Aug 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh whoops, I didn’t mean to leave him off that list.

Foster and Parquet both have a little more versatility, though, so it could come down to Legursky vs. Shipley for the 10th spot. Legursky is plenty strong, but he might be the least athletic of all those guys. Not that the coaches seem to care very much about athleticism on the OL, but it’s a must in the run blocking scheme we (try to) use.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are aware BadMaafala that when we start drafting finesse O-linemen that we are going to switch to a power running scheme…right?

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Stapleton is young and versatile. Even if he’s a sub-par starter at RG, as a backup he could step in at any of the three interior OL positions better than anyone else on the roster. It may mean the Steelers have to dress an extra OL on game days, costing us a backup elsewhere and possibly hurting special teams. Losing a year to injury would also hurt his development. Bad news all around if the injury is as serious as Lolley suggests.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great News

I just hope they keep up the high level of play & intense competition! I want Limas Sweed to win the 3rd receiver spot, but I have a gut feeling that with all of his prior experience, Shaun McDonald will be given the spot. But who knows, just have to wait and see how it all pans out, but this will be the most exciting part of camp & I can’t wait to see with in person when I visit Latrobe next week! Over & out from Jacksonville, FL.

 -Steven

by tru0910 on Aug 5, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Correction

“I can’t wait to see them in person when I visit Latrobe next week!”

by tru0910 on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Wexell tweet again..

Stapleton on the sidelines in streetclothes, but playing catch. Has to be a good sign.

I definitely hope that is a good sign. I am still confused as to why they won’t come out and say straight up what the hell is going on.

by John Stephens on Aug 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

My biggest gripe about Tomlin.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arians is my biggest gripe about Tomlin. I’m also a little hesitant to say this is a good sign. I mean Robo-punter played a whole season on a partially torn ACL. You can walk around with an injury like that, but you can’t play in the trenches.

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by BadMaafala on Aug 5, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, second biggest gripe.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 5, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe thats called Touche’

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever

by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have always liked Shaun McDonald. I hope he wins the battle for number 3 wideout….. I trust a proven vet like him more than I would a 2nd year player like Limas. I’m sure Limas will be a good WR, but on this team, at this time, I think the vet is a more reliable option.

GO STEELERS!

by imike29 on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

MacDonald will be 4th at best, Sweed is dominating the battle for #3, all he has to do is have a solid preseason

If Wallace improves considerably he could be #4, MacDonald could well be the 5th or even cut

Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever

by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

McDonald is a decent veteran

He provides good depth and injury insurance as well as being a potential PR. Everyone is focused on ranking 1-5 but the reality is that it’s a group and veteran depth is a valuable element of any group. If Santonio or Hines get hurt, McDonald’s experience might make him the most likely guy to step in and start. He’s new to the Steelers but he understands what’s going on on the field. Limas is having a great camp. Wallace can run past anyone. Nance and Grisham have had their moments. It’s all good news. Nothing will be decided about roles and playing time for the backups until preseason games are played.

by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

This report is contrary to what I saw at camp and what Ed Bouchette thinks:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09217/988755-367.stm

Shaun McDonald was less than impressive the days I attended camp. He did fine in drills because his hands are decent. However, he failed to get open in scrimmages. All the hands in the world won’t help you if you’re blanketed by a backup cornerback. Also, he’s not a great blocker.

by CarlWeathersMustache on Aug 6, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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