Report from Steelers Camp Day Five: Receivers Catching On
The most dynamic aspect of the team today was the wide receiving corp. Mike Tomlin asked Hines to be a coach today, and for good reason. The competition for the third spot and beyond is as fierce as any position this summer and the staff wants to see as much as they can to make good decisions. Giving Hines reps would not help that cause; thus his inactivity thus far in camp.
Limas Sweed definitely looks like a different guy this year. There is no bigger learning curve than from year one to year two, and the most important thing Sweed has learned is that no one is going to hand him anything. He was one of those college guys whose talent carried him to elite status. The last 12 months have taught him that when everyone is special, no one is special. Another motivation for him is the fact that he longer has a free pass. Being a high-draft rookie, he knew he wasn't going to get cut. Sitting behind Nate Washington, he was sufficiently insulated from pressure. This year, sans Nate, much has changed. You can clearly see Limas's motivation, sense of urgency, comfort zone and better knowledge of the NFL game.
Sweed's sense of urgency is prompted by four hungry players, none of whom give a tinker's damn about Limas's expectations. Shaun McDonald has been around the block and it shows. He looks sharp and quick and knows how to use his hands. He's getting a good look from the staff and he did not disappoint today. After practice I asked Maryrose which player she was most impressed with. She said "I can't answer because I don't know who that #87 guy is." True she's a kid, but if McDonald caught her eye, it surely caught everyone elses.
Next on the list was Martin Nance. You can see the rapport between him and Ben from their college days. Nance had a good day today. It's still hard for me to see a seat on the bus for him, but his presence is raising the stakes at the table for all the others to take notice and step up their game. Nance got alot of reps today and you wonder if Ben didn't lobby the staff to give him a fair shake.
Mike Wallace looks like this year's Limas. Raw talent, doesn't look ready, but protected by his valuable draft position and future promise. Wallace also has the added weapon of kick return potential. If Sweed and McDonald continue their ways, and all four (Hines and Tone) stay healthy (of course), Wallace won't be counted on to catch any passes this season. Again, this year's Sweed.
Dallas Baker is still in the mix, and hasn't looked bad lately, but it is awfully difficult to be the seventh guy on the charts. The Steelers have hung onto this guy for a reason, but there are too many cooks in that kitchen these days. I wouldn't be surprised to see Baker on another team this season. His time on our practice squad has run out.
It's early, of course, but for whatever it's worth, the biggest difference to me this year in camp, compared to last year, is the high-level and energetic competition we are having at the wide receiver corp. From Latrobe, over and out.
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Great to hear we have five great receivers.
My only serious concern here, rose, is where “a tinker’s damn” comes from. That’s a new one on me.
Tinker's dam is a great expression....
…and the late Katherine V. Owen, an American History teacher at Peabody High School in Pittsburgh would often include it with her other salty language in her lectures. She also drank like a fish, was a real battle axe, and a great teacher, but those are other stories. One day, she told us its derivation.
There are several meanings to the work tinker….including the gypsy-like Irish Travelers….but she said it referred to the occupation of tinsmith or anyone who worked in the forming, shaping, or repair of metal utensils. And those who poured the molten tin into a mold to cool and harden would use a piece of clay to “dam up” the mold, as a stopper.
Once the molten material had cooled and hardened, the mold would be removed, and that tiny piece of clay – the dam -vwould be discarded. It was about as worthless as anything could be.
In Victorian times, swearing – especially by women – was not acceptable behavior. But they could get away with expressions that toed the line. And “not worth a tinker’s dam” was one such expression, because they were talking about a dam used in the making and repair of metal utensils, and not cursing.
There are other alternative definitions, and you can google them, but I’ve always liked old Katie Owen’s explanation. She was a helluva teacher, and – incidentally – the first person to convince Chuckie Grodin that he ought to go into acting. Made the suggestion in class and told him she was dead serious about it. Charles Grodin mentions it – and her – in his autobiography.
by Homer J. on Aug 5, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Peabody
My mother went to Peabody High, Homer, having grown up in East Liberty….of course, this was back in the 1930s.
Nice to hear the genesis of these oft-used expressions.
Great explanation!
It historical references like these that allow me to justify to wife so much of my time spent on this blog!!!!
Btw, love Charles Grodin. What was the movie with him, as the accountant, and Robert Dinero? Great movie…just forgot the title.
Midnight Run, I think
My Father and brother also attended Peabody.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Aug 5, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice quote from Tomlin
"Hines has money in my emotional bank account, so I take care of Hines," said Tomlin.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Aug 4, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
other reports i'm hearing
is that mike wallace will be much better this year than sweed was last year. He’s got a cockiness to him that can be valuable in creating the confidence needed to run with vets, and he’s tough as well as smoking fast.
I can’t wait for the first preseason game.
The early guess here
Is that Wallace may indeed have impact, but not catching passes. At least that is if Sweed and McDonald produce and they all stay healthy. Of course, that could be a premature conjecture.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
I'm just damn excited.
I’ve been pullin’ for Sweed since the moment we drafted him; the guy is a real humble kid and is just one of the people you want to see succeed. I like Wallace, and if what is being done in camp translates to the fields on Sundays, we could have an outstanding deep threat on our hands, that not only replaces good old Nate Washington but surpasses him. I do agree though that Wallace won’t see a lot of action this year. I’d be shocked if he gets more than 15 catches. Still, I wouldn’t rule out that a couple of those catches may very well be TD’s.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 5, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I have the Sweed love too
Been real excited on his prospects, and was never ever off this guys bandwagon, unlike some who dumped him after 1 bad drop
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweed is going to be our next SB MVP.
And Wallace will follow up the SB after that.
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
Lol
Id like Big Ben to get one
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Truthfully
I think it’d be hilarious if someone random got it. Like I don’t know, hmm what if Willie Colon is MVP, can OTs be MVP?
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
Given the skill position bias
What would it even take for an OT to be MVP?
Hmm...
I think it would most likely take at least completely shutting down a top 3 DE, aswell as maybe a fumble TD like Steelguy said, but a tackle elgible TD wouldn’t hurt either. Basically all of the above… or a miracle.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Aug 5, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It would take
Not giving up a single sack all year, and opening up such huge holes on a consistent basis that my mother would be able to recognize how well plays.
wrong
The RB would get the MVP nomination for sure.
I maintain my conviction that returning multiple fumbles for TDs is the only way.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Willie Colon
would get an MVP for not getting flagged.
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
Yes probably,
unless the running yards were broken up pretty evenly over two or three backs, canceling out they’re votes. Then maybe. Big maybe though. Again, just trying to find a scenario. If he did all the things I just said, plus add a touchdown or two on tackle eligible plays.
Okay, what if the OT was decently well known and went up against a 20 sack DPOY DE (say, Julius Peppers in a career year vs. a healthy Pace) – making that matchup one of the premier battles to watch (esp if a guy like Madden was the commentator) – and he completely dominated him in all phases of the game? On top of that, the running back(s) ran for a good bit of yards, but had 2+ costly fumbles, the QB had a low percentage showing, and no one defense made a big play. Basically a really ugly game, something like 20-14 final score.
You’re probably right, though, 99. It would probably take something like that with a fumble return for a TD.
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Talk of a linemen dominating a DPOY DE…you got me dreaming.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
It happens. A lot of pass rushers can rack up sacks against sub-par tackles, but when they go against top tier tackles, they are often pretty quiet. I remember one game when Orlando Pace was still healthy, he pwned Dwight Freeney for pretty much a whole game.
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I also remember the year Osi Umenyiora had 13 sacks…6 came against Winston Justice the backup LT for the Eagles…..so he had 7 sacks in 15 other games…..pretty average
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
WR MVP
Did anyone realize the 2009 Steelers will be the only team in NFL history to have SB MVP’s as starting WRs on the same team?
Forgot where I read it.
The Steelers will have total command of the history books near 2025, but good to know. =]
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
by paulamalu on Aug 5, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great stuff MR
Appreciate your observations and naturally they left me begging for more. I’ve read nothing but good things about Tyler Grisham so far and obviously he is way down the depth chart, but it sounds like he is doing what he can to make a positive impression. The other obvious question is who is throwing these passes? Who is hitting receivers in stride and on the money, and who is making them slow down or reach for balls at their feet? Looking forward to your next post. Have fun!
Thanks for the update MR
I’m dying for any info I can get on the West Coast. Ed Bouchette’s chat was pretty generic today so I needed just a little more to keep me going. Your post did the trick. One question…Are there any rookie free agents that are turning heads or making a case for the practice squad?
Just hoping for Sweed to step up
My thing with practice is, its just that, practice. I happen to be a Detroit Pistons B-ball fan and I remember Ben Wallace never hitting a free throw. He stands as the leagues all-time worst. Yet you could watch him before a game and he’d make at least 3/4ths.
I hope thats not the case with Sweed and I hope he’s really showing that promise and he will deliver. I just need to see it in game.
Seems like there are enough other players lighting a fire under his ass though.
One additional side bar from camp
Some guy named Piotr Czech kicked a 58-yard field goal. I wonder if the Steelers will stay connected to this guy until Reed’s 2010 situation is known.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
@jimwexell No Stapleton this morning, of course, and no update. Everyone’s clamming up.
by John Stephens on Aug 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm...
Wexell just tweeted that Shipley is “opening coaches’ eyes”. Too bad I can’t read more due to my inability to read the paid articles. If ONLY someone who could wou ld drop a few hints… (cough cough) ;-)
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
by LV Steelers Fan on Aug 5, 2009 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think
he meant that Shipley bought them coffee.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
its a free article…here is the link
http://pit.scout.com/2/884593.html
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Aug 5, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You are so full of crap.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Wow…sorry it was free earlier today…
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Aug 5, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Must have gotten too many hits
so they upgraded it.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
Anything about Alejandro is going to be popular.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Speaking of popular
I heard Casey Hampton had a reality show. He had people compete to create his touchdown dance should he score one this year. Here are the finalists.
"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)
Can the whales play offensive line?
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Not only can they play offensive line, but they can also be one of the best RTs in the league.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
And then Bruce Arians woke up
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
and put down the joint
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Since we are just updating the most recent post, here’s a report from http://www.steelerfury.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1643&start=0
- Dennis Dixon got a tremendous amount of work today. Dixon was called to run the 2nd team offense today in the 2min drills while Homestead Charle watched from the sidelines (interesting). Dixon played cautious, but good. He didn’t force the home run ball and stayed close to medium range. His passes were sharp and accurate and he seemed comfortable in the pocket.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
MR
I love your writing, just a couple of nits to pick here.
1. The learning curve is the biggest in year one, which is why receivers have a hard time in their first year and it gets easier after that. The bigger the learning curve, the harder it is to learn.
2. I think Limas was motivated last year and Wallace is this year, it is more that it is hard to be a rookie WR than motivation. Your post makes it sound like Sweed was coasting last year and that’s why he sucked. It’s more he sucked because of the large learning curve.
That’s all, thanks for the post.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/PIT
Aug 5 2009 | 9:46:34 am
You don’t see this very often at Ravens training camp: Two boys wearing Ben Roethlisberger jerseys and one sporting Hines Ward’s No. 86. The Ravens fans next to them have been on their best behavior.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Lets Hope This is His Year
After a post season and offseason of calling him “Lame-ass” Sweed… I am waiting for him to join the fray and become the receiver wer were all excited about on draft day. If not, we are one hit away from a long season for Big Ben… unless they have a trade or free agent in their back pocket for later.
A bit dated, but this is one hell of a report from saturday.
http://www.draftsteel.com/ff/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7491&sid=5f9722d080a90231d8e16058e8b27dc5&start=0
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
cam
-The defense is working on a 6 man blitz package. No two plays look anything alike. It looks like someone sets off 6 bottle rockets that shoot in random directions at random times and intertwine like pretzels, but all 6 players end up at the QB.
Bill Beeelichick proved that in America it’s okay to cheat, as long as you cheat your way to the top. – Eric Cartman
cam -> can't wait for the season to begin!
(return key too close to apostrophe)
Bill Beeelichick proved that in America it’s okay to cheat, as long as you cheat your way to the top. – Eric Cartman
Nice note from day 6
Summers is lookin a little better after being rocked a couple of times.
# go from web
#
James C Wexell
jimwexell The Tank was lowering his shoulder this morning. Coaching is kicking in. Couldnt help but think of Bus when DBs converged.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Aug 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
R. Clark comments on Suggs T-Shirt dissing Steelers
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/viewfromthepressbox/
“One of the quotes of camp belongs to the always quotable Ryan Clark.
The colorful free safety was asked about the T-shirt Ravens defensive end Terrell Suggs wore last week that said on the back, “You Bet Your Sweet (rhymes with sass) I Hate The Steelers.”
Clark said the Steelers didn’t want to get drawn into any back and forth sniping. But, he added, “They can wear their shirts. I guess while they wear their shirts, I’ll wear my ring and we’ll see which ones look nicer.”
Zing!"
Heath Miller is next Super Bowl MVP
Seems obvious. Heath can.
Lolley seems inclined to think that Stapleton is done for most if not all of the year.
Good news for Stapleton haters. Bad news for those of us that actually pay attention.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Shipley, Legursky or other
One of these guys makes the final 53 as a result. Does anyone know who has more “position flexibility” along the line? If memory serves, Shipley has little if any. I don’t know about Legursky. Or, does the FO go after a free agent or scout the waiver wire near the final cuts?
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Aug 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
If Essex is the starter at RG, that would mean our backups at every single position along the line have only ever played in mop up time, IF that.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
I think a rehabbed Simmons
Would be better of any of those yet to dip their foot in the pool…..maybe we shouldve held on, although i do not know the extent of the seriousness of his injury
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OL:
Colon
Essex
Hartwig
Kemo
Starks
Urbik
Capizzi
Shipley
Foster
Parquet
Hills
If Stapler is out for the season, we have 11 total OLs, only 5 with any experience at all to fill a minimum of 9 spots. Of the 6 backups, 3 are rookies and one has been absolutely wretched in every practice so far. If Stape is out and we don’t do any more shuffling, I’d guess Hills is out and we keep 10.
Maybe the Bucs would take a 7th rounder for Sean Mahan…
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You beat me to it Trip
I was trying to figure out a way to mention the unmentionable but I see you’ve already mentioned it. The only other possibility that makes sense is LeCharles Bentley.
by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just about to list them out. That’s very ugly:
Urbik – 3rd round pick, rookie
Capizzi – UDFA journeyman that hasn’t stuck anywhere with no playing time
Shipley – 7th round rookie
Foster – UDFA rookie
Parquet – 7th round journeyman with no playing time
Hills – 4th round wuss
I wouldn’t feel comfortable with a single one of those guys playing back up. We’re one injury away from one of them starting. Hartwig currently isn’t practicing because of an injury.
Mahan stinks, he’d be the best backup on the line. LeCharles Bentley would single-handedly carry the steelers to another ring.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Which raises the question
could the o—line be worse this year then last. I think the answer is a definite yes. One serious injury could put us in serious trouble.
by SteelerBuddha on Aug 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Essex and Legursky start we should probably have Dixon be the starting QB just to see what the sack ratio is.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
We should have dixion as the starting QB
because ben will die behind that line.
by SteelerBuddha on Aug 5, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We should have Dixon as the starting qb
ummmm……………..Ben would probably get sacked a lot. Ok now you go!!!
If by some small miracle Stape only needs arthroscopic knee surgery or some other procedure that will have him miss less than half a season, I’d be more comfortable with it, since Essex can pretty much play anywhere on the line. If we have multiple season ending injuries, though, that is really really ugly.
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Oops, Mahan credit to you Badmaafala
Well done!!! The same thought has running around in my head like a test lab mouse on crack.
Anyway, my bigger concern is Hartwig’s status. Toe injuries (if that’s what he actually has) can be hellacious to recover from and play through. This is exactly the situation I was worried about this spring, the lack of depth on the O-line. It’s nice to want continuity but you ALWAYS need more people than you think. But losing the top IOL backup AND the starting center would be potentially catastrophic. The only good thing is the timing. It’s early and some passable veterans will become available.
by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Legursky
Legursky will definitely make the roster before Jeremey Parquet or Ramon Foster. I am from MS and Parquet went to my school, USM, and we played against Foster and still without playing favorites Legursky will most likely beat them out for a roster spot. He has exp. on the psquad and is playing with the first team offense right now.. He will be the num. 1 backup for C if Stapleton goes down. Barring a miracle, Foster, Shipley, and Parquet will be beaten out.
Oh whoops, I didn’t mean to leave him off that list.
Foster and Parquet both have a little more versatility, though, so it could come down to Legursky vs. Shipley for the 10th spot. Legursky is plenty strong, but he might be the least athletic of all those guys. Not that the coaches seem to care very much about athleticism on the OL, but it’s a must in the run blocking scheme we (try to) use.
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Exactly
Stapleton is young and versatile. Even if he’s a sub-par starter at RG, as a backup he could step in at any of the three interior OL positions better than anyone else on the roster. It may mean the Steelers have to dress an extra OL on game days, costing us a backup elsewhere and possibly hurting special teams. Losing a year to injury would also hurt his development. Bad news all around if the injury is as serious as Lolley suggests.
by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Great News
I just hope they keep up the high level of play & intense competition! I want Limas Sweed to win the 3rd receiver spot, but I have a gut feeling that with all of his prior experience, Shaun McDonald will be given the spot. But who knows, just have to wait and see how it all pans out, but this will be the most exciting part of camp & I can’t wait to see with in person when I visit Latrobe next week! Over & out from Jacksonville, FL.
-Steven
Jim Wexell tweet again..
Stapleton on the sidelines in streetclothes, but playing catch. Has to be a good sign.
I definitely hope that is a good sign. I am still confused as to why they won’t come out and say straight up what the hell is going on.
My biggest gripe about Tomlin.
Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!
Arians is my biggest gripe about Tomlin. I’m also a little hesitant to say this is a good sign. I mean Robo-punter played a whole season on a partially torn ACL. You can walk around with an injury like that, but you can’t play in the trenches.
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I believe thats called Touche’
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I have always liked Shaun McDonald. I hope he wins the battle for number 3 wideout….. I trust a proven vet like him more than I would a 2nd year player like Limas. I’m sure Limas will be a good WR, but on this team, at this time, I think the vet is a more reliable option.
GO STEELERS!
MacDonald will be 4th at best, Sweed is dominating the battle for #3, all he has to do is have a solid preseason
If Wallace improves considerably he could be #4, MacDonald could well be the 5th or even cut
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by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
McDonald is a decent veteran
He provides good depth and injury insurance as well as being a potential PR. Everyone is focused on ranking 1-5 but the reality is that it’s a group and veteran depth is a valuable element of any group. If Santonio or Hines get hurt, McDonald’s experience might make him the most likely guy to step in and start. He’s new to the Steelers but he understands what’s going on on the field. Limas is having a great camp. Wallace can run past anyone. Nance and Grisham have had their moments. It’s all good news. Nothing will be decided about roles and playing time for the backups until preseason games are played.
by steeler.lifer on Aug 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
This report is contrary to what I saw at camp and what Ed Bouchette thinks:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09217/988755-367.stm
Shaun McDonald was less than impressive the days I attended camp. He did fine in drills because his hands are decent. However, he failed to get open in scrimmages. All the hands in the world won’t help you if you’re blanketed by a backup cornerback. Also, he’s not a great blocker.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Aug 6, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions

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