Ben Roethlisberger vs Peyton Manning
I think i've had
enough of hearing about Dennis Dixon vs Charlie Batch. In my opinion, our opinions don't matter because it really just depends on Tomlin & co. And thats the beauty of being a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. We aren't arguing about who should be the starting quarterback but instead we debate about backups. You can relate right Browns fans? Anyway the other day I was arguing on Facebook about who's better Roethlisberger or Manning. I've now decided to take this argument here.
Vs.
Let's get it on.
Big Ben
Pros: Has won two superbowls, set the Steelers record for touchdowns in a season with 32, has made a pro bowl, in his now 6 year career, he has already thrown 3 perfect games,as of the end of the 2008 season he unofficially had 19 career 4th quarter/ot comebacks (this doesnt count game winning plays when the game is tied) he has a rare ability to escape the pocket at any given time, has a way of pulling games out when all hope seems lost (a la Cowboys game of 2008) is a true born leader, can inspire his offense at any random time, has escaped more sacks then Donte Stallworth has jail time, knows how to get out of risky situations such as a 3rd and 16 or a fraud rape case, was the quickest quarterback in history to 50 wins, was the youngest quarterback of all time to win a superbowl.
Cons: Seems to hold on to the ball too long, for as many good comebacks as he has he has just as many poor showings (ex. Colts and Giants games of 2008), can be known to start off slow (2008 Jaguars game) when he throws picks he throws bad picks that go for 90 yard interception returns (RASHEAN MATHIS EVERY SINGLE GAME) when he gets out of the zone he gets extremley out, ehh not sure about his decision making but you know bikers dont wear helmets either, has more of an injury bug then LeCharles Bentley but to Ben's credit he is EXTREMLEY well of either overcoming it or hiding it, in his first years he relied more on his teammates but honestly who cares? Had a poor showing in his first playoffs but you can thank Terrell Suggs for giving him a nice cheap shot right before the playoffs, the best part is that Ben has overcome just about every thing I just listed.
Peyton Manning
Pros: Has won NFL MVP 3 times, has 4 perfect games in his career, broke Dan Marino's touchdown record in a season with 49, has won a superbowl, 9 time pro bowler and 4 time all pro 1st team, was a number 1 overall draft pick, maybe the most impressive stat is that he has never missed a game, player of the year in multiple categories, same goes for offensive player of the year, somehow was superbowl mvp, you can go on and on about him but lets just sum it up with he puts up big numbers
Cons: Before every play Manning has more audibles up his sleeve then Pacman Jones has legal suits involving strippers, every time the Colts are on offense I either reach for the remote or a gun, he has so many chokes over the years that I can't even begin, remember that "super"bowl he won? Yeah that was pretty much in spite of him. Let's break it down. Wildcard vs Cheifs: 30/38 268 yards 1 touchdown and 3 interceptions! Divisonal vs Ravens: 15/30 170 yards 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions (very impressive) Conference vs Patriots: 27/47 349 yards 1 touchdown and 1 interception. Now he can't throw more then one touchdown over those 350 yards? Well he did only have on interception..that managed to go for a touchdown at the end of the half, smooth. Superbowl vs Bears: 25/38 247 yards 1 touchdown and 1 interception. THATS A SUPERSTAR QUARTERBACK? HE THREW ONE TOUCHDOWN IN EVERY SINGLE GAME. I'm pretty sure that Aliki Smith could throw more touchdowns then that. Honestly do not even argue that he was some magician down the stretch because he flat out sucked. He won because the colts defense went into F U mode and decided that nobody was beating them. My favorite part of these cons though is when they show manning on the bench after he throws a smooth 6th interception against the Chargers and his beacon of a forehead has a 6 by 6 red mark across it.
Overview: What a classic battle of balls vs bitches. Ben is the gutsy, gritty quarterback who can grind out wins in clutch situations. Manning is the smooth, savvy qb who hates getting hit and i'm certain Casey Hampton can beat him in the 40 yard dash. The best example is the commercials that they've done. In every single commercial that Manning does he somehow involves saying how awesome he is. The one where he had the fake black hair and moustache he said "that qb with the laser rocket arm." And in his most recent one for DirecTV he says "Maybe you can even watch some colts games." No thanks Peyton i'd rather chop my finger tips off. In Ben's only national commercial you know what he does? He punches blitzing linebackers IN THE FACE. Peyton even knows he's such a pansy that he has to advertise his rocket arm. I'll take the man in this case. Really though if Manning is so much better then the rest of the field then why does Ben have 2x the superbowls that Peyton has in half the years? Ben's playoff record? 8 - 2. Mannings playoff record? 7 - 8. Isnt that proof alone? Right now can you think of a legendary comeback that Manning has had? Pretty sure there arent to many.
Decision: Look i'f im starting a freakin fantasy team then Manning gets the nod but come on who honestly would take Manning? This year is a perfect example. 1st round of the playoffs and Manning goes down to the Chargers when they had the game pretty much the whole time. Darren Sproles absolutley wipes out the Colts and does something like the 3rd most yards in a game ever. Next week the Chargers come to town and get whipped bad by the Steelers. That dangerous Darren Sproles gets half of his yards in the 4th quarter when our 2nd team has been in for awhile. If you want stats and a nice little pretty boy then go with Manning. If you want a flat out man that can win you games then just take Ben. And if anyone tries to dispute that the Colts or Manning is better, then just ask them how many superbowls do we have?
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Peyton Manning is the better pure passer
But i think Big Ben is the better footballer.
Manning has been the model of consistency throughout his career, and is an incredible player. He studies the game and analyses it like no one else, maybe only Tom Brady can rival Mannings in game recognition. In 2005, his best season, he threw 1000 yds and 10 tds to three different receivers, showing his ability to make the best read no matter what the situation. He is also a proven winner in regular season, constantly leading the team to division titles and the playoffs.
Big Ben however in my mind, is a better fit for the Steelers, and is probably the better footballer (not necessarily meaning QB). He never gives up, refuses to take sacks willingly, and good plays to him are bad plays. He wants a great play everytime he touches the ball, often leading to lots of sacks or interceptions. Incredibly poised in the big time, he relishes the chance to lead the team to a win in crunch time. Manning often crumbles in those situations.
No doubt i would rather Big Ben….no doubt
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
Lotsa similarities with TB vs Staubach, etc.
All our guys do is WIN, because they’re team guys, not fantasy stats grabbers.
00s are new 70s; world is in balance once again. Here we go Steelers...
then don’t read them
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Aug 11, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Manning
Bet Manning wins the 01 and 04 championship gam’es if hes on the Steelers, beats the Titans in 02, (gets killed in 03 behind the injury plagued line) , definitely plays better than Ben in the Seahawks superbowl in 05, doesnt faceplant into a car windshield in 06, and ignores Ariens horrible 3rd and 6 qb sneak call late in the 07 J ville game, instead audibiing to a pass, Jville never sees the ball again, Steelers win, Ariens secretly thanks him for his courage. But if you’re saying he wouldnt have played as well as Ben last year with our o-line woes, I Might agree, accept that he may haveread defenses and released his passes quicker from the pocket and not underthrown the deep ball “all year” (I know Bens shoulder separated wk 1). My Point is do we win fewer games, title etc. with Manning or more????
by Micculus on Aug 5, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ehh i think less because it’s not like our offensive line has been solid for years and plus we still run most of the time anyway so manning would be much less effective
uh thanks worldtrip
Worldtrip i think is just meaning there have been a lot of these lately, such as Ben v Palmer, Ben v Manning, Ben v Brady and they are getting old….you can argue for ages and never get anywhere, and they always attract trolls from the other SB Nation sites
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Aug 5, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes there is that
Plus I hate postings that start off with “hey it’s great to be a Steeler fan, we rock, hey Browns you suck”.
Nice of you
to take the time to tell the guy you think his post sucks, worldtrip.
you’re one class-act, you are.
Easy-
Better pure QB= Manning
Better Total Package Football Player AT QB= Ben Roethlisberger
Ben throws, runs, reads defenses, punts, tackles, blocks and most likely will eventually catch a pass or TD. Plus, Ben has 19 come-from-behind 4th-qtr. victories and TWO SB rings.
Peyton reads D’s and throws.
No contest….
Ben over Peyton
Unless I’m playing a fantasy league, which I don’t do, I’ll take the player who can win the big games and who has the guts, determination, and drive to be a true leader on the team. Peyton has showy stats, but I don’t see him as a leader. I’ll take the younger, gutsier QB with two rings any day.
Dissenting Opinion
I would love to agree with the crowd on this one but I can’t do it. I bleed black and gold but the bottom line is that Peyton is a better quarterback. If he is on the field, he is a threat to win the game. A perfect example is the 2005 playoff game against the Steelers. We kicked the snot out of this guy for almost the entire game but he still came back and almost won the game. Any other quarterback would have stayed blown out. A strong defense can beat him and a play like Polamalu can give him fits but you have to swarm him every single play or you give him a chance to beat you.
hey...
didn’t Peyton (the great QB) through that interception that should have ended the game (if it had not been incorrectly overturned by instant replay)????
What?
I think Ben is great, but what are you smoking? Payton is one of the best ever. Ben vs Eli? Ok we can have a debate. Ben vs. Carson or Rivers or Brees, OK, but come on. In this same light was Franco a better back than Jim Brown? No way. Franco was great. HOF, but come on. Ward vs, Rice is on the level of absurdity.
Start a thread that actually makes sense and allows for honest debate.
by Steeler Nation VA on Aug 31, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions
he had only one comeback but it was a great one
The Monday Night Miracle against Tampa. in 05.
by thegeorgerogers on Aug 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
No comparison here
Manning is a totally different type of QB than Big Ben, so it’s not really fair to compare them. Manning is strictly a drop-back guy with probably one of the strongest and most accurate arms in the history of the game. But Ben makes things happen with his incredible strength and ability to extend the play. Overall, I’ll take Ben because he’s a lot more exciting to watch. But Manning will go down in history as one of the best ever.





















