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BTSC Housekeeping - Some Do's and Dont's at Behind The Steel Curtain?

Hey all. Just a few notes from me about some of the site's admittedly fairly laissez-faire 'rules.' As the site continues to grow (welcome all!) it's probably not a bad idea to throw something like this out from time to time. I have more to say about who I am, where/how the site started, what you might be able to do to contribute to the site if you're interested, what the site strives to be in a very crowded niche space, etc etc. But for now, here's just a few things to keep in mind. Happy Friday!

  1. BTSC is not a place where we engage in homophobia, even if it's just 'light hearted.' When you see an image like the one below, I understand it may be impossible to resist, but seriously, there's tens of thousands of fellow Steelers fans that probably swing the other way and we have no business alienating them from our tribe as a result of such a proclivity. Nfl_a_quinn_580_medium

  2. On a similar note, no politics or religion. It makes it a lot harder to justify hate of any sort when you can't cloak it behind political or religious reasoning. This is a big one as it plays a large role in keeping the tone of the site civil. We've got great people from all corners of the globe...literally...There's no way we can all bond and agree about politics or religion. We can about football. At least our enjoyment of it. Let's stick to what we know for the most part.

  3. BTSC is DEFINITELY not a place where racism is tolerated. No exceptions. Period. Takes a lot to get banned from this community. That'll do it.

  4. BTSC doesn't support sexism either. We're proud of having badass female fans amongst the tribe we call Steeler Nation. It's tempting to call Eli 'She-li'. I've done so myself more than once. But let's remember we can assume at all times there's a legion of women reading our stuff, because you can count on it, there will be.

  5. BTSC prides it self on it's collaborative/community publishing tools. By that I mean, it's not just me, drinkyourmilkshake, or maryrose who has a voice. We all do and we have the tools to empower each and everyone of us to share what's on our mind. That's a beautiful thing, but it's also not to be abused. By that I mean, respect your fellow fans and take a gander around the site to see if there's already a discussion going on about the subject on your mind. If so, keep the discussion there rather than writing a new fanpost that contains little but your own personal off-cuff take on an already discussed topic. This allows easier navigation of the site's wealth of content and frankly, it makes it both more fun for all of us while also allowing new members to not draw the ire of some of the site's most veteran presences. 

  6. BTSC is a site where fans of other teams are welcome. Our good friend MrMalor for example frequents our sandbox multiple times daily, and by doing so, provides us with the occasional nugget of information and a very frequent amount of hearty laughs and good times. We will welcome fans of other teams so long as they aren't looking to be blatant jerks/trolls/annoyances. No exceptions.

  7. Because it's so important and because I've gotten so many suggestions from stalwart long-time readers, it's worth reiterating: please do not spam the fanposts with just two short sentences about a topic du jour. Find somewhere else where it's being discussed unless you have the time or inclination to write out something worthy of a fanpost. I hate to say that because this site works because of you all and because of the community publishing - but nevertheless, as we grow, we have to keep it in check. Do your part please.

  8. BTSC does not have a hard-line rule about profanity. Let's let adults be adults. However, BTSC has gotten the blessing of Art Rooney Jr. as being a place of 'thoughtful discussion'. Let's not tarnish that image. And yes, people are taking notice. So if you must use profanity for emphasis, be my guest. Just don't do so flagrantly and for no good reason. Some folks are more offended than others so let's not turn any one off to the site for something so trivial. It's not fair to them.

  9. Let's try not to resort to name calling when we disagree with others points. Take the high road and either spell out why you disagree or just leave it be altogether. On a similar note, I love all y'all old school readers and commentors. Really do. You've made the site. However, let's remember to be welcoming to new folks, even if they may not be entirely up to snuff in terms of 'blog etiquette'. Be nice. Or at least be patient as we incorporate more and more Steelers fans in to the fold. You have it in you. 

  10. Continue to use the fanshots, recommend features, report spam, etc etc. These are all part of our proprietary world-class platform to mingle around one giant virtual water cooler. Take advantage of them and if you have any questions, be sure to let me or milkshake know.

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Excellent Reminder

Blitzburgh..

Thanks for that. I think its a very timely reminder, given that the season is just starting. Thanks for all that you do. GO STEELERS!!!

by k7brown on Aug 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ditto!

The aforementioned,“guidelines”, are EXACTLY the reason I’m glad I finally looked up this site & read it everyday now. The crowd here is insightful, damn funny sometimes, and respectful! I also love the fact that there are some women on this site who know more football than me, MAYBE! LOL! But what I really like is the way things get ANSWERED! I’ve yet to ask a question, or comment, & it hasn’t been replied to! This is the Steeler Nation I love!

"You never stand so tall as to when you reach down to pick someone up."

by Chise67 on Feb 7, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First Post

Hello to all. This is my first post on this site, and like many I’ve been lurking for a while now. I came across this wonderful place the way I suspect many are; through SI.com. This has quickly become my favorite site for all things Steelers, and I felt like this post was a good place for me to drop a comment.

I’ve been a fan since I was about 7 years old (‘77), and I hate to admit at the time I didn’t know much about the team, a friend of mine was a fan and was always sporting Steelers shirts and jackets, and he got me interested. I’ve loved being a fan ever since, and I get more into the team every year.

I live in California, have for most of my life, but I finally got to see the Steelers play at home 2 years ago when my Wife bought tickets to see the Steelers play the Seahawks. She got us tickets in section 133 about 14 rows up from the field. If I’m not mistaken, that game was the first shutout at Heinz, but either way it was a great experience, one I hope to do many more times in the future. The people were great, the stadium is awesome (Guinness on tap, sign me up), and the atmosphere indescribable to anyone who has not attended a home game.

Anyhow, I’m rambling. This is one of the reasons I lurk and don’t post. :) I just wanted to drop a comment and say I think this is the best Steelers site on the Internet, I hope it’s here as long as I’m around, and I hope it continues to get better and better. Thank you for keeping such a great thing running, especially for those of us in parts of the world far away from our favorite team.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

welome man!

I used to live out in the bay area and have a very good friend who grew up in Saratoga (went to Lynbrook)

If you ever feel in the mood to take a drive on a Sunday morning there are some great Steeler bars in SF too.

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 7, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the welcome

Sure is a small world. I need to get more social with fans out in this part of the world. Sounds like I need to get up to SF and check out the scene. A few comments down, worldtrip points to couple of places, I will be checking it out.

Can’t wait for the season to start…

by troyp_43 on Aug 8, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great location to watch Steelers in South San Jose

I’m a Steelers fan living in San Jose. There is a great location in South San Jose (pretty close to Saratoga) to watch the Steelers. Its called the “High Five Pizza company”. They have more than 14 flat HD TVs to watch the Steelers. I’ve watched several games there including many playoff games. The atmosphere is great! Its pretty kid friendly too which is nice. Here is their website:

http://www.hi5catering.com/main.html

by seventhheaven on Aug 8, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cheers

Appreciate the words. Glad you chimed in, if only to ramble a bit :) GOod stuff.

Where you at in California? I’m heading south from seattle to CA for a month here in a few weeks. Be well and thanks again for the support.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks

I’m in the SF Bay Area a little West of San Jose in a smaller town called Saratoga. It’s a pretty nice area as cities go.

You’re living in Seattle, right? I might have you mixed up with someone else.

Been having some trouble getting this to post, so I’ll keep it short, hopefully there aren’t six other posts like this from me… :)

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are correct about seattle

And yeah the sites been a little bit buggy this morning/afternoon. Not sure what the deal is.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Been there once

Had a great time in Seattle the one time I went there, but that was before Super Bowl XL. Must be fun being a Steelrs fan in Seattle… :)

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg

We had this one totally pompous schmuck from Seattle on the site after we won the Super Bowl trying to rain on our parade with commentary about how the 1st SB this decade was tarnished.

Generally speaking, yes, not the best place for STeelers fans to be. But I diffuse :) It’s not that tempting to get in the ring with Seahawks fans. Not too much they can wrassle back with. Kinda an unfair fight.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I told him that it wasnt the appropriate time to bring it up

and that we were just trying to collectively ‘celebrate’ together after the win. Asked him to knock it off politely after like 30 minutes. He emailed me saying I was a threat to free speech and was un-American in my censorship. Quite Seattle!

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

They were complete kill joy’s after that game. I remember getting up the next morning on a complete high. That lasted until I started surging the ‘net and started seeing all of the “tainted win” garbage. I’m over it now. Especially after seeing the beatdown the Steelers gave them last time they played.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the City?

Are you in the city, or in the area? I’ve been here for about 10 years now, coming from the foothills it’s been a bit of a transition.

Hope you have a dish, I can’t get one where I’m at, so I have to endure the endless 49ers and Raiders reports on TV. I hate it when there is a great football game on, not just a Steelers game, but any great matchup and the show us the Raiders vs. Browns or something.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

check back during the season

Though I shouldnt be doing this, I’ll mention that we have links each week to the games being streamed out of other peopples houses to your computer. If you have decent internet, shouldnt be a problem. Not as good as live or on a TV, but it beats the hell out of settling for awful Raiders football.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great

Thanks, that would be awesome. I’ll keep it quiet.

I remember when watching the Raiders play wasn’t such a painful experience. Seems like eons ago. Same for the 49ers. Last great game I remember was the Wild Card win over GB in ’99 I guess that was.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am in the city and I do have a dish

but I go to a Steeler bar called Shanghai Kellys to watch the games.

by worldtrip on Aug 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whats the name of the hotel that the redwood room is in?

any idea worldtrip? Also, want to get a beer perhaps on the 18th or 19th of august. Will be rolling through SF.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No idea

I’d like that. I’ll be around.

by worldtrip on Aug 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah just remembered

Clift Hotel.

Anyway, I’ll let you know when I’m rolling through. Hopefully it will be at a suitable libation hour.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh indeed

I’ve been there. Not really my crowd though.

by worldtrip on Aug 7, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol yeah, not mine either

i just remember being taken there once when i was like 14. Always liked hotels and that one is kinda unique.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you hit the Tonga Room at the Fairmont Hotel on Nob Hill (? maybe…). The rumor is they’re closing the place soon to put in condos or something in 1/2 the hotel. Anyway, great drinks, and its the best Tiki bar I’ve ever been to. Amy and I loved it.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool, will jot that down

when you go to portland, stay at heatham hotel. Wouldnt suggest that for everybody, but it’s pretty sick for 150-200 night. Huge collection of original Warhols, right downtown and walking distance to lots of fun stuff. Good date place.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We loved the Warhol museum in Pittsburgh. That and Primanti’s (natch) were out favorite non-steeler parts of Pittsburgh. The hotel sounds up our alley. What’s winter/fall like in Portland?

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kinda grey but still pleasant to be outdoors in

Might get rain, might get a little sun. But anything in October should be at worst, like 50-60 degrees and overcast. Meh. No big shakes.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nov-jan

Looking at more rain, but again, a decent jacket and some things to do indoors and you wont even notice. The rain in pacific NW is one of the most overstated things ever. (I say that so confidently having been here all of one year)

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

portland

hey guys: i live here in portland (transplant Pittsburgher) and it does frequently rain from October —> April or May. That said, in the winter it is usually a light mist and temps in the 40s, just a lot of days but not big storms. I think the hotel referenced above is the Heathman Hotel – a nice place in the middle of downtown.

This is by far the #1 steelers blog on the web and why is that it is a community. let’s keep it that way, so thank you for posting the rules. All men and women are created equal in Steeler Nation.

by TBsteeler on Aug 7, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

thanks for weighing in. Appreciate it. How about that freakin’ heat wave last week? Wow!

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea dude!

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 11:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

crazy

107 in portland? nuts. luckily, we have AC…some friends were without and were coming over to try to escape it…

by TBsteeler on Aug 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool

I’ll have to check it out. I’d venture up the penninsula for the right place.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a small place

And it gets pretty filled. But it is a ton of fun. There is another place called Giordano’s that serves sandwiches like Primanti brothers. Also quite small. I like the atmosphere at Shanghai Kellys better.

by worldtrip on Aug 7, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

campbell

I’ll probably be watching most of the games at Rock Bottom in Campbell this season. I wasn’t in San Jose last year, but the year before that there were typically a few other Steelers fans there. They have 6 big HD screens and 8-10 smaller TVs and have all of the games on. Not a bad place to be on Sundays.

I might try and make a trip up to Shanghai Kellys for a game as well.

by jwiley on Aug 7, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds good… some other sites are not so discriiinating.

by oldschoolhunkie on Aug 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is why I read this site – so many other websites believe its not only tolerable – but beneficial to engage in these offensive tactics. Thankfully, there is a place where we can talk about football in an intelligent, constructive way that attempts to not discriminate against anyone.

by MDM on Aug 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m famous on SB Nation.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

congrats, you're 'that guy' :)

joshin with ya. stay round these parts. wouldnt quite be the same without you. I’ll be rolling out my prediction for Baltimore’s demise soon, like I did for Cleveland last year. Can’t wait for the retort.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That might then be the time you think of banning me ; )

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doubtful :)

I’m expecting you to kind of be frozen, with a look of ‘oh shit, he may be right. There’s no way we match what we did last year.’ We shall see though. I know the two games b/w PIT and BAL will be excellent and hard fought blood baths, I just don’t think Baltimore will be able to run off a one month+ winning streak like last year.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you’re famous in the same sense that the town drunk is famous.
Har har

by shleeve on Aug 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps....

Maybe, just maybe we can bring Mr MaLoR over from the dark side?

by Gezarik on Aug 7, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caption for the Cleveland picture

DA: “I love you thissssssssssssssssss much.”

Brady Quinn: “No, I love YOU thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss much.”

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

and sorry about the conflict from yesterday, actually MaLor, really appreciate your presence on the site. Always good to have a Raven fan on here to fight with.

Will post something longer down at the bottom -but for all the people who felt that I was a bit heavy handed with my comments yesterday -I apologize – just trying to call it as I see it from my perspective.

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All good. If that was you being harsh, then I can’t wait to see what happens when the season starts.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

Don’t worry. Ravens fans are not a protected class here.

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 7, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chiming in...

One of the things I really like around here (aside from the info about all things Steelers that I find here) is the cameraderie. Anything that promotes that is cool with me.

Oh, and by the way, @Mr MaLoR: “You’re ugly and your mama dresses you funny”.

Did I just screw up?

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Aug 7, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks bro

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK - I give up

VDF is MaLoR?

I’ve been around these parts for a while and I just can’t figger it oot?

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 7, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Master and Lord of Retards

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you just broke a couple rules

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm rebel, Dottie. A loner.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just made me think of Tequilla

Is it Beer O’clock yet?

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 7, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I figured exactly zero people would get that. Good on ya, mate.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I swear there was an ‘a’ in there before. Where’s my edit button.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retards prefer to be called “mentally challenged”. Just saying.

Willie Colon doesn’t get flagged because he has long arms; he gets flagged because he sucks. - cliff harris is still a punk!

by steelguy99 on Aug 7, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But then his name would be Mr MaLoMC and that just doesn’t make any sense.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Aug 7, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…..

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IDD now

Intellectual Development Disability. Not to be confused with my total inability to type.

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

by TXcheesesteak on Aug 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is VDF?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vut Da F$&@

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's German

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Aug 7, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posting a picture of Brady Quinn in a thread about the Do’s and Dont’s of BTSC is a little ironic to me.
I mean, thats basically a gay joke right there.

by shleeve on Aug 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, intentional :)

So as not to make it seem too stuffy or rigid here. As I said, some things are just too hard to pass up.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 7, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man you just don't know what a temptation it was

to not remark on that picture. Sort of like when the Ladies Man got the job at the Catholic radio station.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Aug 7, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does that say “dabutt”?

by shleeve on Aug 7, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why swears??

There’s been a fair amount of discussion of this topic, certainly surrounding some of my Fanposts since I frequented this neighborhood beginning with the “Steelers Greatest Victories” series. I must say that I do enjoy the respect, and enjoyment accorded tales of Steelers glory days of the ‘70s, and even prior years. There’s an acknolwedgement here that the world did not begin when one was born.

That said, with no offense intended, I thought I’d take this opportunity to respond a bit to a phrase from Maryrose’s post above, “…but to intentionally type them?” Other posters have pointed out that if the inclusion of profanities, etc. were a prudent maneuver, then the practice would be widespread by mainstream media, ESPN, ABC, etc.

It may well be the case that this site has a mainstream ambition and future, and the endorsement by Art Rooney, Jr. is cited. Other writers though, that aim their appeal at a targeted audience, and I’m thinking of novelists specifically, often include profanities in their writing, particularly when adopting a conversational style, and often composing direct dialogue. To the question, often posed by my 89-year-old mother about movies she sees, “WHY do they need to use those words,” the response of my brothers and myself has been, “’’Cause Mom, people DO really talk like that.”

I had a pleasant email exchange with Blitzburgh a couple of nights ago, and made the following points:
a. I try to keep my posts authentic when quoting actual direct conversation. The memories that I cite are not contrived, and neither are the direct conversations.
b. When using f-bombs of my own specifically, when I’m writing conversationally (as opposed to more analytical, or researched pieces, such as the one on ‘08 Steelers offensive sets), I have adopted the practice of using symbols, or saying "effin’."
c. Believe it or not, prior to posting pre-written pieces (which were admittedly posted on sites where the responses to my pieces were more profanity-laden than the piece itself), I do make an effort to edit and sanitize. Some have encouraged me not to do so. When doing it right, I really do review each and every profanity to assess the necessity

I’ve oft-said, that my primary goal in writing is to write something that I like. It’s admittedly vain, but I enjoy reading my own writing. Secondarily, I write so that other will read. I try to strike a balance, and the balance then shifts, as while I’m the constant, the respective readership is the variable.

I’ll keep trying.

by swissvale72 on Aug 8, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's no human being in the world who is constant...

…everyone changes :-)

So, dear Swiss,

Please find the one balance which will look good in a site with ambitions to be a mainstream media as you said earlier.

P.S. respect your originality!

by Bonek on Aug 8, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appreciate the comment Swiss

And I agree about maintaining a level of authenticity. This is, after all, an adult site. The sanctified and the squeamish enter at your own risk. But I also agree that there is a point, as MR points out where a line is crossed into the vulgar and profane. As for me, I am most concerned about behavior, some of which does not use profane language, but does disrespect people on a more fundamental level. Comments that might get your lights punched out if it occurred in a face to face setting. Sometimes it involves comments or language that is insulting to fellow posters, often it is insulting to players, coaches, etc. as if they were cartoon characters as opposed to flesh and blood human beings who are blessed/cursed with all the complexities both good and bad of being human. And sometimes it involves behavior that is generally insulting to a diverse community of participants.

I don’t believe there is clear line of demarcation here, but it is good to be mindful of the fact that this community is so refreshing because it strives to a level of both sophistication and inclusion that makes participation here so fulfilling and enlightening; not to mention just plain fun.

by RickVa on Aug 8, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

New Member

Hello to all… Like Troyp above, this is my first post, but I’ve been visiting the site for about 6 months. I’m stil amazed that this oasis of inciteful Steelers information and intelligent discussion exists on the otherwise troll populated interweb.

"Whats the worst thing that can happen to a quarterback? He loses his confidence." -Terry Bradshaw

by MolsonGolden on Aug 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

These posts keep getting me thirstier

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Aug 7, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

trolls

One of my favorite things about this site too, is the lack of trolling. I can’t even finish reading the posts on ESPN or SI anymore. People trashing on each other and players/teams and not in good natured way either. I get almost nothing from those boards. Here I’ve found many great posters. I have yet to come here and not find something new to read, or to at least read through the comments to get a laugh, and in some cases actually learn somehting about the Steelers I didn’t know. Very cool.

by troyp_43 on Aug 7, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you and apology

Just wanted to say thanks and apologize if what I wrote yesterday came across as heavy handed or patronizing to anyone on here. It was not meant that way.

For the most part the people on that thread are regulars whose work I love reading.

As I said before it’s not about sensitivity on my end – just a preference to keep the talk football oriented and high-minded – or at the very least low-minded in a good natured way, that’s not specifically at anybody’s expense. Onward and forward to what promises to be one hell heck of a season.
 

by SteelerBuddha on Aug 7, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great way to run a sports site

This is how most sites should be run. Makes it much more pleasant and easy to read.

It’s a far cry from a now-famous Penguins blog site (although that one surely can be entertaining).

by mdc2457 on Aug 7, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the bottom line about this place is that I learn about football here

I know I can’t contribute in the way that some posters here do, so I TRY MY BEST not to bring down the level of discussion. troyp_43 is right, if you go on an ESPN or SI blog, you read the nastiest comments from some of the most idiotic, immature, and jealous people on the planet. I’d come off of there actually thinking Ward is a cheap shot artist or that Eli is better than the Big Boy. NONSENSE!

If I have to edit profanity in here to help keep this place an unbiased and informative resource, then I’m all for it… as long as I can still rag on Malor.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Aug 7, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bring it!

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Aug 7, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes

intelligence, artistry and creativity to be funny and blunt without being ignorant and offensive. Not something everyone is naturally gifted at, but certainly something anyone is capable of with practice.

My only real problem is with the couple regular posters here who live solely to snipe at others’ comments for their own benefit. It’s one thing to strongly disagree with something someone types; it’s a whole other thing to try to exploit someone’s posts to glorify yourself.

 I think it’s very easy to say what ya want to say without coming off like a know-it-all or bully.

by tobiathan on Aug 7, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Steeler Addiction

I don’t post much, but I come to the site at least 4-5 times a day. I am born and raised in Pittsburgh and was lucky enough to grow up in the 70’s and see all of the Super Bowls and even two World Series (yeah, the Bucs were once a great franchise, seems like ancient history). I live in the SF Bay area now, and this site feels like a little slice of home. I just wanted to express my appreciation to all who truly make this site the class act that it is. Btw, I work in downtown Oakland, and I see more Steelers gear than Raiders gear. Kinda makes ya proud.

by VinniePie on Aug 7, 2009 10:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Vinnie Pie

Your screenname says it all…..the best!!! 271-9181

by swissvale72 on Aug 8, 2009 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swissvale72

Hey! You got the inside scoop. I grew up on Vincent’s Pizza (the one on Ardmore Blvd). Best pizza in the universe. Many great and drunken memories there. I grew up in Forest Hills. Do you remember the Triangle Bar in Swissvale? They used to have the best roast beef sandwiches, but you had to be man enough to go in and get one (I was under 21 and I recall it being a rough bar). Thanks for noticing my screen name. Yunz have a good day.

Note to all visitors to Pittsburgh: you owe it to yourself to go to Vincent’s Pizza (the original on Ardmore Blvd), you will never see pizza again in the same light. Here’s the link: http://www.yelp.com/biz/vincents-pizza-park-pittsburgh

by VinniePie on Aug 8, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

trianglr

Now I’m really challenged..trying to post here from my blackberry not only did I frequent the triangle ..vp..I worked there for awhilw both making battleships and tending bar at the age of 19. I knew the owners well..in fact my dad ate the first bship ever made..by johnny catanzano himself..the oriiginal owner. Far as vinnies..best there is. Check out my fanpost on 80s.dark decade.special section on vinnies

by swissvale72 on Aug 8, 2009 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Ownership

What I find interesting about a blog like this is that simply because I’ve been a long time reader and occasional poster, I tend to believe that I have some ownership over it. Not in any literal sense, but when new posters come on and don’t have the exact same style that I’ve been used to I get ornery like someone’s playing with my new toy. Thus I completely understand Blitz’s point 7. I apologize if I’ve ever been snide with the new folks.

I love this blog for 2 reasons:
1. I learn more about the Steelers, past and present. Better than any other site in the world for that sole purpose.
2. I learn more about football in general. The combined knowledge on this site is incredible. And I’m excited to learn more. I could care less about fans that yell about how much other teams suck, I want to hear a good thought out argument on why they suck. (blitz looking forward to you ripping apart the ravens this year).

Keep on takin’ it easy for all us sinners.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 7, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i've lurked for a few months now

and felt compelled to jump in as well. This is by far the the best and most civil Steelers blog I’ve ever seen. Glad I found this site before this season. Keep up the good work guys…

Blitz – whereabouts in Seattle? I’m in the city, in Bryant over northeast of U Village.

I know what you are saying about Seahawk fans. Pathetic…

by Seattle Stiller on Aug 8, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey man

Welcome. Good stuff. I just moved here last September. Go to grad school at UW. I’m living in Wallingford. Kinda over it. It’s allright but I pay a bit too much. I’m hoping to move to Greenlake in a month or so.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 8, 2009 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a trip

you’re like a mile away. UW is a great school. I’d try to live by Greenlake if I were you as well.

I’m curious. Where do you watch Steeler games, given that very few non prime time games are shown here? When I can get the hall pass (rarely) I usually go to Fox Sports downtown. Have you found a good Steeler bar here?

by Seattle Stiller on Aug 8, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FREE SPEECH

How long will the sheeple put up with it. my father and our forfathers wouldnt.
I understand

is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness

by Steelchamps !! on Aug 9, 2009 4:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

US CONSTITUTION- grow sum balls

when did we let them win? Im talkin to all my fellow steeler fans out there. when did we start protecting those who are idiots? you know, the Queerdell jokes? when did our love for football become more important than our own rite to say what we want? Ya know with all the BS in this formerly great country of ours and REAL issues out there when did it become acceptable by us to get asxraped thru the gates b4 we enter Heinz field? {I know i know 4 your protection lol anyways } Not be able to call a Brownie a faggxt? Why is politicly correct so “in”? IM SICK OF IT!!!

Now.. Im new to this site. I dont fagbash nor do i c others doing that here and thats what I like to be honest. My point is DONT tell me what or what not to say. IM SORRY there are very confused people out thre.I know. But for everyone to just blindly accept rules and laws and regulations because of them I have to stand against. If fellow fans wanna post a political thread. fine. probley wont click it.somebody posts a Fagg thread.fine.probly wont click it. But to tell people what they can an can not post is Bull. its our LIBERTY to CLICK on those things that pertain to us and disregard the rest

Now.. Im new to this site. I dont fagbash nor do i c others doing that here and thats what I like to be honest. My point is DONT tell me what or what not to say. IM SORRY there are very confused people out thre.I know. But for everyone to just blindly accept rules and laws and regulations because of them I have to stand against. If fellow fans wanna post a political thread. fine. probley wont click it.somebody posts a Fagg thread.fine.probly wont click it. But to tell people what they can an can not post is Bull. its our LIBERTY to CLICK on those things that pertain to us and disregard the restIm sorry. from here on out IM HERE WE GO …… . . . . .unless of course i feel FREE otherwise to do so. my LORD u kissasses .dont b sheep

is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness

by Steelchamps !! on Aug 9, 2009 5:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops

See below. I meant to put that as a reply to this.

by worldtrip on Aug 9, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lololol

I’m fine with disagreeing about my rules but I just LOOOOOVE when people make their complaints about free speech, ‘losing America’, etc etc. Too funny. Do you say the same thing to your employer or to your pastor at church? Not a matter of free speech man. Plus, you are FREE to say whatever you want. You won’t be persecuted or locked up.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st Amendment

That’s exactly right, Blitz….and I say this being a violater of the language standards here (and other places). This is a common source of confusion of the “Free Speech” mantra, and you’re exactly right….simply means that one wont’ be prosecuted, not that it’s without consequences insofar as one’s employment, or the free speech that YOU exerecise to enforce certain standards on YOUR website.

by swissvale72 on Aug 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

Total joke when I hear that nonsense. It is a serious issue but its 100% wholly not applicable to here. And furthermore, I’m pretty damn lenient in the first place.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE this site

I just sometimes get fired up!! thats all! Youll c. Im on your side here just try to stay as free as i can. : )

is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness

by Steelchamps !! on Aug 9, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right on. fired up is good :)

And everyone’s free to disagree here. No doubt.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Aug 9, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really glad you joined

You are going to be a lot of fun for me, I can tell already.

by worldtrip on Aug 9, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well done!

Several others have already commented on the timeliness of Blitzburgh’s post, and how well thought out they are. I’ll merely join in that chorus of admirers.

And, of course, I love the site. I especially love how “low maintenance” it is — we don’t really need a set of rules, but timely reminders keep everyone pretty much on track.

Oh, this group is so ready for some football!

"That's why they play the game."

by B Dub on Aug 9, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Swissvale72

What a small world. I may have walked right past you when you were tending bar at the Triangle. Good times, I just remember getting in and out real quick with the battleships (Thanks, I had forgotten the names of the sandwiches), and if memory serves, there were all kind of Navy posters behind the bar. Now I’m freakin’ homesick for the ’Burgh. Need to go see the old man in Wilmerding.

by VinniePie on Aug 9, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was it me?

I dunno, VP, if it was me…summer of ’74. More likely I made your Battleship….we made 6 of those 27-inchers at a time. Johnny Catz was a Navy man, and the smaller hoagie was the Destroyer.

by swissvale72 on Aug 9, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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