Bears versus Steelers Matchups
Thank God for football season. I thought it might never come. Thankfully it has and with it games that matter on television again. I thought last weeks game went about how I hoped it might. I had little hope for the running game versus the Titans and thought Collins might get some good garbage yards versus the Steelers D.
But the new week is upon us and I'm heading out of town tomorrow to get married, so I wanted to share what little insight I might have to offer for this weeks game. Living in Chicago and routing occasionally for the Bears has made it so that I've watched more than my fair share of Bears football over the last few years. Combine that with spending far to much time watching and discussing the Steelers perhaps gives me a slight bit of insight into this weeks game. Ya'll can be the judge of that after the jump...
The Steelers on Offense
The Bears run defense is definitely exploitable. Much of the defensive line over penetrates (Tommie Harris I'm looking in your direction) which would allow draws and slow developing plays more room to gash a defense. However, this would require all the linemen on the same page and a OC who knows when to make these calls. I'm not too confident in either of these areas for the Steelers. In recent years the defense has compensated for this penetration with having two of the linebackers fill gaps immediately on running downs. This causes the line to jam up much like it did against the Titans. The Bears have had good linebacking cores that can flow to the ball when a RB tries to bounce these outside. The ends also tend to do a good job keeping contain. Urlacher is out, but I don't see it making too much of a difference in the running game. He had gotten to the point where he was nearly a liability in the run game. He always relied on his athleticism to run around blockers, but if you got a hat on him he would be inept and you can drive him wherever you want. The real thumper is Briggs who will still bring some heat in the running game.
However this interior pressure on running downs should open things up for Santonio Holmes. The Bears secondary has been getting injured left and right the last few years, and this year has been no exception. Who they have left is a step slow and and can be ripped for huge yardage (see the throw to Greg Jennings to seal the game). I think this could be a huge game for Holmes on quick outs, slants, and WR screens. The other recipient and where the Steelers can attack even better without Urlacher is with Heath Miller. A play of BA's that I actually love is the middle screen to Heath. I think this could be an easy 8-10 yards once to twice a game. None of the Bears safeties or LBs can match up with Heath.
The blocking on passing downs can be difficult. The Bears have good depth and defensive line and like bringing heat with multiple blitzers. I wish that I could have confidence that Arians and Z would game plan for this and run more 3 step drops and quick hits to slow them down and make them think more, but I'll believe it when I see it. I would imagine Ben gets hit a few times this game (what's new).
The Bears on Offense
Not surprisingly I like the Steelers D in almost every matchup on the field. Hester is still nowhere near a polished receiver, and as long as they are disciplined and make the tackles they should make the secondary should be able to keep him in front of them even without Troy.
Matt Forte is a great back and will probably see more looks this week after the coaching staff and Jay "Pouty Face" Cutler ignored their best weapon from last year. I'm not worried about him running the ball as I believe in our run defense against the Bears aging line, but I could see him hitting some seams in the screen/wheel routes.
As to Jay... He's still trying to prove that he's better than Elway (he's not). He'll force throws and I think that our defense will probably come up with 2 interceptions. I'd make it 3 if Troy was still in. He can drill a throw, but with the Bears receivers he'll have a hard time getting the big plays. Greg Olsen should figure into the game plan heavily and I'm hoping that TImmons is back for nickel situations so that he and Farrior can take turns kicking the crap out of him when he tries to catch a ball.
In last weeks game the Bears O-Line looked almost as bad as the Steelers. Pace is old and showing it. If Deebo doesn't get choked to death without holding calls he should be in Jay's face constantly. Chris Williams is playing like a rookie, and Woodley could devour him as well.
Special Teams
There was a time where this would have scared the bejesus out of me (not sure what he's doing in there anyway), but these days I find myself comforted with the large legs of Robopunter and the tiny body of Logan. Creepy I know. The Bears special teams is the best coached in the league and could make a play or two, but if the defense comes to play they can hopefully mitigate the damage, while Logan helps provide good starting field position for Ben and his crazy band of misfits.
All the best to all my fellow Steeler fans. Sorry for adding yet another post to the rapidly devolving fanposts section, but this is the one game of the year where I've done my scouting. My final prediction is that the Steelers win 27-9.
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not to stick up for Cutler (or other struggling QB's)
but the Bears receivers suck and dont help the issue by running wrong angles or cutting their routes off – not my conclusions but watched it on ex-coaches.
If u notice expecially hines and now Holmes coming back to Ben and fighting off the corners for position
by steelermafia on Sep 15, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a Cutler fan
but 2 of those INT were not his fault. He did make some poor throws, really forcing it but it was obvious he and WRs not on the same page…maybe not even in the same chapter :)
by SteelerMike on Sep 16, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgot to add…the last int…the WR Knox stopped on the route? Running an “In” route and the WR stopped?
You could just see Cutler shaking his head and biting his tongue. he wanted to bitch the rookie out right then and there. He didn’t. But I guarantee you, he’ll go off on him during film study.
by SteelerMike on Sep 16, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One second-quarter Chicago series: dropped interception, dropped interception, interception.
by Bonek on Sep 16, 2009 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler will fade away
without those recievers he had in Denver….he is so overrated
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Sep 16, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bears TE Desmond Clark is Out with a Cracked Rib
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
I would like to see Mendenhall break off a 25 yard run.
And also a 40 yard run.
by lightningrod on Sep 15, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mendenhall
I just want to see him hit the hole — and not Ben…
(Pretty sure that was the hardest Ben was hit all day…)
by MarkJoel66 on Sep 17, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adewale Ogunleye
How do you do a break down of the Bears D and not mention his name? You will be used to it on Sunday at about 5pm.
by TheCommish on Sep 15, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
have to agree with this one
he was pretty stout against GB – however, he was going against a rookie – hopefully Colon can mostly contain him if he can skip some of the mental errors.
by acrollet on Sep 15, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is def the biggest “matchup” of the game if you ask me. Ogunleye looked really really good Sunday night and all I could think about was how Colon will handle him.
by Jett on Sep 16, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see if the Colon
can put his money where Peter King’s mouth is. King reiterated this AM on Sirius NFL Radio that he feels the Colon is one of the rising star Tackles in the league. This will be a good test for the kid and I’m sure all eyes will be on that right side after the perfomance of Ogunleye in GB.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 16, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't put anything where Peter King's mouth is
… until Peter King takes his lips off of Belichick’s ass…
by MarkJoel66 on Sep 17, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bwaaaaa haaa haaaaa
rusty trombone
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
good stuff. I think we should definitely come up with a couple of picks between Chicago’s receiver corps and Cutler’s farvesque tendencies.
and Congratulations! Being married is way better than wedding planning, enjoy!
by acrollet on Sep 15, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats
Best wishes on your wedding day. Thanks for sharing insight on the Bears. Agree on Urlacher being in decline but he will be missed as the guy who makes all the calls and is an inspirational guy in a close game who can still make big plays. Tinoisamoa is a very quick and heady linebacker so the Bears are going to have some trouble in the middle of the field. Looks like a favorable weekend for the bride and groom and the Steelers. Enjoy!
by steeler.lifer on Sep 15, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the wedding wishes
And I can only hope you’re right acrollet that the marraige is more fun than the planning.
I agree that Adewale played really well against Green Bay and tried to mention that the d-line could be a problem for Ben in the passing game, but I think he was really just whipping the rookie. Not the best right tackle in the league (sarcasm tags inserted here).
by Chicago Steeler on Sep 15, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Green Bay RT was terrible
Barbre looked totally intimidated by Ogunleye’s speed. Colon won’t be intimidated at all. He’s been beaten by a number of speedy DEs so it won’t bother him in the least when it happens again Sunday. He’ll just wait for Ben to avoid Ogunleye on the initial rush and then block him coming back when Ben rolls to his right.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 15, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s much better after the wedding.
On my wedding night we were so exhausted from the last minute stuff and the wedding and reception we went home and went right to sleep, still in tux and dress.
It was just a huge relief having it all done.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 16, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wedding planning
Go to Justice of the Piece at noon.
Ride up in elevator with convict in orange jumpsuit and shackels.
Get married in 10 min.
Go on honeymoon.
This works great, 18yrs total bliss.
by SNW on Sep 16, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
We’ll get to you eventually.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 16, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you a Baltimore Ravens fan ?
by lightningrod on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a sign of the Apocalypse?
Raven fans predicting Steeler wins?
I know it must be a reverse psychology trick. Infact, I don’t want anymore nice or positive comments from you or Malor.
Your only welcome here if your comments are rude, disparaging, bellicose, and acrimonious.
Get it rat bird? :)
by SteelerMike on Sep 16, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Seriously…it’s just creepy when our own division rivals are calling our wins…-shudder-
ESPECIALLY him and MaLoRy…
Thank you drive through...
by SteelFever on Sep 16, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fully expect the ravens to beat SD.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 16, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are a divisional foe...they usually play each other tough
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 16, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They usually don’t injure 40% of SD’s O-line though.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 16, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could get Colon for 2 number 1s
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 16, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’d take more than that for the top tackle in the league.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 17, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we could get LeCharles......
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 17, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had him Bettis would like our backfield
We would make EVERY 3rd and short and EVERY TD inside the 5. Guaranteed!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 18, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much guarantees no fumbles right there.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 18, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Then our team would be perfect….only them would we be 19-0
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Sep 18, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it count...
… if no one is there to hear it?
by Varmint on Sep 16, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid poast
I think this game will look a whole lot like the last one. No running game, large passing numbers, and the other team won’t do much either.
My prediction about last weeks offensive style was almost entirely spot on and I hate to say it, but I think I’ll see it again this week.
However the difference this week, Ben wont be rusty. He wont miss a WO Mike Wallace or overthrow Holmes for an INT. And those plays will become first downs/TD’s and we should win by two scores.
by Mechem on Sep 16, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my thought exactly on wallace
I’m hoping that Ben and Wallace spent some time during the week coordinating the long ball with the blistering speed. This would be a good game for it.
by thedonger on Sep 16, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace will take the top off of the D
As long as he makes the catches. (That is the catches that are catchable.)
If he starts grabbing a some of the ones that are not thrown well and we can relax about Tones potential contract requirements.
by SNW on Sep 16, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I havent seen him drop a catch yet
In a game that counts. He latched onto that last pass from Ben like a baby latches onto its mothers teat.
He held that thing for like a while after that play was over and I loved it. That was a loud and clear “you can trust me Ben”
by Mechem on Sep 16, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that too.
My writing skills are confusing to me sometimes.
by SNW on Sep 16, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post Chicago Steeler!!!
I’m gonna have some $$$ on the game and l’m hoping that your scouting is bang-on. Nothin’ better than a nice and easy blowout.
Big Ben vs. NFC = 18-4
by Freddyd on Sep 16, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We win You Win
wish you the best on your wedding. one of the most important days of your life. Steelers will give you a nice present with a great victory> We will win running the ball.
by acerero on Sep 16, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on getting married
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by drinkyourmilkshake on Sep 17, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the wedding!
I think the DL and LB are going to go to town. Maybe we’ll see some 2-5-4 action to cover for Troy.
Love this part:
“In last weeks game the Bears O-Line looked almost as bad as the Steelers. Pace is old and showing it. If Deebo doesn’t get choked to death without holding calls he should be in Jay’s face constantly. Chris Williams is playing like a rookie, and Woodley could devour him as well. "
by Steely McSmash on Sep 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fantasy question
I’d love to hear some opinions on this if anyone wants to share. I have Big Ben and Rivers as my two fantasy QBs. I plan to start Ben this week because it looks like we might need to air it out more, and Rivers is playing the vaunted Ravens defense this week. But Ben is on the road and Rivers is at home. I was reading NFL dot com and they said this:
More quarterbacks with favorable matchups:
2. Philip Rivers vs. Ravens: 249 yards, three TDs, 71.4 completion percentage in last start vs. Ravens (11/25/07).
I don’t know about this. I know the Ravens run D is better than their pass D, but I think their secondary is less banged up than usual right now. Malor how about being useful for a change and filling me in with an unbiased appraisal of your expectations for the weekend?
What do you guys think? I expect Ben to have a better day than Rivers, but I’d love to hear some devil’s advocate. I was cajoled into this and it’s my first fantasy team but after tasting victory in week one, I want to beat these people!
Anyone think Holmes will come close to last week? He sure helped me out! Last week he tied his best showing ever in his career. Of course the stakes were much higher the first time he had those numbers.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Sep 17, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
put Ben in
and Holmes….hopefully Vasher will be covering Santonio….if so, he’ll have a huge day
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Sep 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus
Ray Ray will be introducing himself to Phyllis Rivers all day long
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Sep 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep I was thinkin' the same thing
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Sep 17, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben over Rivers
Firstly Im one to almost never use steelers for fantasy, save for the defense. But that game was late last year IIRC and the Ravens secondary was leaking people like the titanic. Its in top shape right now and fresh.
Theres nothing favorable about any offensive player going up against Baltimore. Whoever wrote that smoked some good crack.
And Ben likely will have to throw 35+ times this game and I see him having back to back 300 yarders.
by Mechem on Sep 19, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the spirit of our matchup
i give you this…. don’t worry we have one too… but dont look if you don’t have a sense of humor.
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
by BearNecessities on Sep 18, 2009 7:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that when it came out, it is actually hilarious.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 18, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was awesome
I can’t wait to read the ones for Baltimore and Dallas
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Sep 18, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
That’s harsh – but funny, yeah. The jealousy emanating from the troglodytes is palpable. And clearly none of them has been to Pittsburgh recently. I need to post some pictures I took at a bar of some of the most beautiful woman on the planet decked out in Steelers gear!
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 18, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably have been to pittsburgh recently. Making fun of this smoke-strewn steel town is and always will be funny.
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 19, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Pittsburgh (the city)
and have watched its transformation from afar for quite some time now. I guess most people have not seen that Pittsburgh has been voted the most desirable city in which to reside. I am strongly considering relocating to Western Pa and working in the city. I have family in Indiana, Pa, Latrobe, PA and Mars. I’d like to get me 10 acres or so in the not so distant suburbs and commute in. South Jersey sucks the back of my sack and is draining the life out of me. I want to have kids and there is no way in hell I want to raise them around here with all the congestion and general douchebaggeryness that is everywhere.
But, I digress – GO STEELERS F*%K everybody else!!
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted the link to that site over at the Beatdown
As you can imagine, Mr. MaLoR leaped all over it. There’s one for each team, so laugh it up at the expense of all of our rivals! :)
"My cat's breath smells like cat food!"
-Ralph Wiggum
by SteelFever on Sep 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kind of funny -- but makes me all the more proud crazed mongoloid that I am...
My faves:
“The town looks like a fat, numbered bumblebee convention, all year round.”
“This Steeler fan shares every sub-human, depraved trait of his confluence bretheren, but the difference is that he’s actually at your stadium waving a yellow towel in your face while grinning like a crazed mongoloid.”
by Steely McSmash on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rofling
I really love the usage of Mongoloid, in particular because here in peru if you are acting kinda stupid as a joke they’ll call you a “mongolo”
Funny stuff I got a kick out of it.
by Mechem on Sep 19, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bet you get that a lot. :)
Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL
by steelguy99 on Sep 19, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah pretty much… Im quite the oddity. The tallest whitest person in a completely white-free neighborhood, usually looking out of place.
by Mechem on Sep 19, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was awesome
I laughed my ass off
Pain is temporary pride is forever
by Heartofsteel on Sep 19, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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