Did The Steelers Not Take Advantage Of What They Had Set Up Offensively Through The Air?
Let the debate continue - are the current version of the Pittsburgh Steelers better off airing it out rather than trying to fruitlessly try to establish the run? During Sunday's 14-17 loss to the Chicago Bears, the Steelers once again had trouble getting things going on the ground early in the game. Meanwhile, the passing game was clicking on all cylinders. Big Ben led the Steelers offense right down the field on a 13-play 92-yard scoring drive to start the game. The drive featured four Willie Parker runs and nine passing attempts by Big Ben, eight of which were completed. The tempo of the drive was stellar.
On the Steelers next possession, they picked up right where they left off. Willie Parker ripped off a couple of nice runs and Big Ben continued to keep the chains moving. His 21 yard completion to Hines Ward on 3rd and 11 from the Pittsburgh 41 put the Steelers back in Bears territory. They were threatening to really put the pressure on the Bears for the remainder of the game with another score.
Then Big Ben got a bit greedy and forced a ball to Mike Wallace on a deep route to the end zone. I'm not entirely sure of this without re-watching it first, but I'm confident saying that Wallace was not Big Ben's first or second option on that play. In fact, he was probably his 4th or 5th. But Ben was feeling it, the protection had been good up until that point and he took a chance. But by going through his progressions first before throwing, Roethlisberger gave the Bears pass rushers just enough time to get to him and disrupted his throw. It was vastly underthrown and picked off by Charles Tillman.
The Steelers offense never really had the same tempo and rhythm the rest of the game.
But that isn't really the point of this post. Rather, I wanted to comment on how I thought that early success passing the ball could have yielded bigger dividends in the running game later in the game. The Steelers only ran the ball 22 times against the Bears. They picked up 105 yards though on those rushes, good enough for 4.8 yards per carry. 39 of those yards came on Rashard Mendenhall's impressive tough run in the third quarter. But there were other positive runs in the game as well. Willie Parker, who finished with , had two 12 yard runs as well as a 13 yarder. He also unfortunately had five runs that resulted in negative yardage or no gain. Three of those five negative plays however came in the 1st half and the fourth was the opening play of the 2nd half.
It could have just been me, but I felt the Steelers running game was finally get its legs in the second half. It was partly circumstantial, but I also thought they didn't lean on the running game quite enough after finding some success. On the final drive of the game, there was one instance in particular where I felt the Steelers should have gone to the run. It was 3rd and 2 from the Chicago 25. The Steelers were already in Jeff Reed field goal range yet there was about 3:30 minutes left on the clock. Plenty of time for Pittsburgh. And plenty of time for Chicago even. On the 10-play drive, the Steelers had dropped back to pass 8 times and ran the ball twice. On one of the dropbacks, Big Ben scrambled for a clutch 1st down pickup. Mewelde Moore picked up 15 yards on one of those runs, as Chicago's defense was looking pass all the way with Pittsburgh in the no-huddle. On the 3rd and 2 play from the 25, the Steelers predictably dropped back to pass, as they did almost 100% of the time last year in 3rd and short situations. Chicago was of course looking pass and Big Ben had nobody to throw to, eventually settling on a deep pass to Holmes in the endzone that was broken up.
Anyway, given how the offensive line was playing and how hard Rashard Mendenhall had been running during his limited opportunities, I would have loved to see him get the ball. At worst, Chicago's either forced to use one of their timeouts or precious seconds tick off the clock.
It wasn't meant to be for the Steelers today. There will be other similarly frustrating games throughout the 2009 season. We'll see how Pittsburgh responds to its first dose of adversity since winning their record setting sixth Lombardi Trophy last February. I think they will be fine, particularly when Troy Polamalu returns from injury, but one of the most essential elements of winning in this league is making adjustments on the fly. There will be many made by the Steelers, no doubt about it. To me, it will be interesting to see if one of those is a willingness to trust in the running game with the game on the line, even though recent history says that may not seem like the best course of action.
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Our two minute defense reminds me of Ohio State’s…..
It seems like the D gives up most of its points right before the end of either half…or right after the O puts points up
by zenhas12strings on Sep 20, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This has probably been said
but I’ve been busy with school this past week…it seems like Parker is a part of the problem with our running game; he’s too “dancy” while Mendenhall and Moore seem to pick a hole/location on the line where a hole should be and hit it. I can’t remember a good run (maybe one) before Mendenhall busted his large run.
by Romain El 82 on Sep 20, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thought parker
Looked ok, not great. He hit his holes and had 3 nice runs. He didn’t make many guys miss though.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 20, 2009 11:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
completely agree
Parker’s a great back when you have a great rushing O-line. He’s incredibly explosive when he finds the seam, but he stalls behind the line looking for it. With a good o-line he’ll have time to do that. He doesn’t now though and has yet to change his style accordingly.
by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Sep 21, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say screw tradition
Throw the ball, thats how this team is built, our 0-line actually looks very nice in pass protection, but terrible in run blocking. We still run but if we need offense i say throw it up, Big Ben is great, and we have elite recievers
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by xRideTheBus36xx on Sep 20, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering yesterday we threw it 35 times yesterday and ran it 22 and against the titans we ran 23 times and threw it 43 times, I think that Tomlin and Arians realize that.
Only problem is, late in the game you need to be able to gain some yards on the ground to eat up clock. Also, running it early pounds at a defensive line and makes them more worn out at the end of the game.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arians Game Planning is Horrendous
You pretty much summed up the failure that is Airans game plan. There’s absolutely no strategy to what he’s calling, hus no rythem can be established.
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by Zone Blitz on Sep 20, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The game plan was fine.
Dropped balls by Holmes and missed FGs are what lost the game. They left 13 points out there on the field which were due to mistakes by players, not play calling.
by Ragnar808 on Sep 21, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
granted
but I completely agree with the lack of rhythym in Arians game planning. I for one am getting sick of getting a run stuffed on first down, smothering momentum and presenting us with a 2nd and 10 (or worse) constantly. I don’t think I’d call it ‘horrendous’, maybe mediocre, blah, vanilla. Ben makes the offense work and no one else. It’s easy to say mistakes from a few players lost us the game, but that will happen from time to time and I think if we had a better OC he could pick up the slack in mistakes with solid playcalling and an understanding of the flow of the game.
by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Sep 21, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draw play?
Maybe if the Steelers ran a draw play like the Pats do. That could help….maybe…
by Ragnar808 on Sep 21, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree. We showed good balance on offense on first down. By my count, we passed 12 times and ran 14 times. While we did get 2 or fewer yards on an ugly 8 of those 14 running plays, we also got some big chunks at times and there were zero series that had 2 stuffs in a row, setting up a long 3rd down. The problem wasn’t that we were uncreative of unbalanced, it was that on many occasions, Ben wasn’t able to get a first down while passing on 2nd and 3rd down.
I have frequently criticized Arians for exactly what you mentioned – lack of rhythm on offense – but in this case it was the dropped passes that broke up the rhythm, not grab bag playcalling. I pointed out below that according to ESPN’s stats, Holmes caught only 5 of the 14 balls thrown his way. If you’re counting on the passing game to guide your offense, that just won’t cut it, regardless of the playcalling. Good playcalling is key, but excellent or poor execution trumps poor or great playcalling.
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by BadMaafala on Sep 21, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B, the problem with the Ben throw to M. Wallace ...
was that he got hit on the release. Wallace was actually about to run past the DB, but the DB saw that the pass was going to be short and adjusted.
As far as trusting the running game more, I think Tomlin will have to see a little more success before that happens. This is truly a pass first team now. I think that Mendy’s performance did earn him a little more tick though.
I think in this game of chess, the next move belongs to D. LeBeau. He has to think about starting R. Mundy at SS to get more speed in that base D while Troy P. is out. You can’t hide T. Carter in the base D like you can in the nickel and dime.
by datruth4life on Sep 20, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually thought he played well
Except for that TD thrown at the TE he was a half-step away from. If that’s Troy, that’s either knocked down or picked.
I’ll have more once I post the defensive review tomorrow or Tuesday.
by Romain El 82 on Sep 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what game you watched
But Carter played pretty terrible IMO. He was exposed the entire game and late several times on big passing plays. Something speed can fix, but you are right, the experience to know where to be is just as valuable at safety.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carter was fine until he got hurt
the guy was doing good, then he injured his thigh and wasn’t the same. The team only gave up 17 points, and would have won if Holmes doesn’t drop all those balls and Reed hits the FGs.
this team is fine and will be back to destroy the Bengals next week.
by Ragnar808 on Sep 21, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team was fine, but Carter was not
I never said the defense did not play well, I said Carter did not, which I stand by. He was out of place on a couple plays before he got hurt.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not much they can do, right?
I mean…Troy is out. Carter will have to be the man for now. Really though….I don’t think it was that bad. Only 17 points were scored against the D. I kinda think it’s a bit unfair to expect them to only allow 6-10 points a game…ESPECIALLY the first game without Troy. Adjustments need to be made so that can feel out where the weakness likes. I would like to think the next game will be better for the D now that they know where they stand.
All things considered….Carter needs to step up….but he’s not Troy…so that means he can only step up so far.
by Ragnar808 on Sep 21, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again I am not complaining about the D
I am complaining about one guy, Tyrone Carter, who was the guy scored on twice. Being the guy to give up 14 points IS a big deal.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Townsend and Ratliff can both give safety a shot, and Mundy is our resident backup-backup safety. I don’t know that any option will be better than Carter, but the gameplan on defense will have to change a bit regardless.
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean it comes down to Speed vs. Experience
Would you rather be a half-step slow (Carter) or a loose cannon (Mundy)?
by Romain El 82 on Sep 20, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least the loose cannon has the potential to make plays. carter is not a play-maker.
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Sep 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He almost took himself out of the game instead of Olsen on a vicious collision.
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
twice he almost took himself out of the game with helmet to helmet hits….stupid
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Sep 21, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just to be clear I was calling Ty Carter stupid…not you 99
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Sep 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rar, me hitty with my helmet, rawr!
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i know he got hit
But I think he got hit because he tried to go for too big a play when we had things humming. I guess it might have been there had he gotten the throw off cleanly but seems like he went through his reads before looking that way. Again though, I’d have to rewatch that play to confirm if that was the case.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with Blitz on the running game getting started today.
But it has to be difficult to get Rashard that ball on 3rd and 2 with 3:30 left in the fourth quarter. I don’t remember, but that lack of time left, sounds suspiciously like we were running the no-huddle. I can only remember Mewelde as a running back option in our no-huddle. And even if Rachard does get in the huddle, with our history of 3rd and short rushing conversions, whose nads would be swollen enough to call that play?
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by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 20, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The three players who played a huge role in our defeat were
1. Tyrone Carter- He was beaten for both touchdown passes on inside slant routes because he doesn’t have anywhere the speed that Troy does, and Chicago took advantage of it.
2> Santanio Holmes- He had at least five passes clank off his hands today , including the possible touchdown reception at the end of the fourth quarter. Hines should have been more involved in the crucial passing plays today.
3. Jeff Reed- Not 1 but 2 misses today. He had the nerve to turn down the Steelers offer before the start of the season? That,s laughable now….
by Dr Del on Sep 20, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol
Can see we are mostly on the same page. Thought Carter plaed a gutsy game though.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 20, 2009 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he did have some solid hits
but he sorely is lacking in coverage skills
by Dr Del on Sep 20, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t Carter the guy who I heard all about being really good from some people here?
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 20, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, youre priobably thinking of Gay
Steelers fans have been quite high on him heading in to this year, but he’s been pretty bad. I was really worried about him heading in to this year. Nothing to acquiesce my fears up until this point. He’s getting beat regularly. And if he wasn’t tackling soundly he’d really be a liability.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 21, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least you didn’t have to watch Rivers throw for 440 yards on you!
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 21, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least you won, ill take 440 passing yards against and a W anyday…well, almost.
by shleeve on Sep 21, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't a knock
it’s a serious question. What is up with your D this year. Your offense is putting up big numbers and points, but I’m surprised at the high scoring in your games. Anything in particular? I haven’t watched any of the games so I don’t know.
by Steelde#1 on Sep 21, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Didn’t you all at BB say your secondary was supposed to be drastically better than last year? Seems like you shouldn’t call people out for being wrong when you are just as wrong on your boards.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are better as a whole
They are just undersized and struggled against the Chargers monster WR’s. They had four WR’s, five if you count Gates, over 6’4".
Most teams do not.
by DT711 on Sep 21, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There ya go, Ravens fans can never be wrong, only us Steelers fans.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
And I do think our secondary is still better. We got ahead of ourselves yesterday on plays and 6’5" WR going up against 5’10" are going to have some success. And about 110 of Rivers yards came from dinky dunk passes to Sproles. Reed was not himself yesterday.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 21, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So that would make that a weakness in your secondary
I am pretty sure every team has a receiver near the 6’5 range. So if you cannot handle a 6’5 receiver that means your secondary has a big weakness.
I was never high on Tyrone Carter. To me, its like having your Mercedes Benz break down and they give you a loaner ford “luxury” car. To me he was out of place a lot, and the two TDs were his fault, “injury” or not.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a weakness, yes
But does not mean that our secondary is not better then last year. We have the same guys playing in last year’s secondary, and we added some much needed depth. Once Reed comes to his own, I will not be worrying about our secondary.
Once our defense gets their act together, we are the best team in the AFC North. No glaring weaknesses like you guys have with the running game, O-Line. Bengals and Browns with everything.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Isn’t that the first time in Ravens history you gave up 400 yards to a QB? So, the worst performance in the history of your team DBs/secondary is better than last year? Color me skeptical about that one. I still think you all have your secondary highly overrated.
And I am still not sold on your offense. You can run the ball, yeah. The pass offense is still unproven to me. The chiefs and the chargers were in the bottom 5 of pass defense last year (28 and 31 respectively).
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a lot to prove. They are on 2-0.
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you are not sold on an offense that was 11th in scoring last year? Hmmmmmm
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 21, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the rush attack is good, not the pass
You were 28th in pass offense and 4th in rush offense. So which one made you 11th in scoring? I’d say the ground game. I am not saying that your offense did not improve, I am just saying it is not completely proven yet.
And yes, I’d rather be 2-0 than having this debate, but if I was you I wouldn’t go around calling yourself “the best team in the AFC North” just yet. You have the best record, that is all.
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by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I was not knocking on Carter
Just surprised to hear all the negativity after I heard such great things about him. He laid some serious hits on the Bears, just couldn’t cover for squat.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 21, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked like a great backup safety.
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I thought that overall we mixed up run and pass quite well. The 3 and 2 in the 4 th was a gamble but it was a good looking play. Samtonio really should have caught it.
I thought Arians called a good game. We kept the bears guessing. I lay this one squarely on poor execution by the players including these costly mistakes that cost us big.
1. For the second week in a row Ben took a sack that took points of the board. I love the big guy but that is simply inexcusable. Also ad blitz pointed out he got greedy on the Wallace pass.
2. Santonio had the big drop as noted above but also dropped a good number of other
catchable balls.
3. Reed. 6 points.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 20, 2009 11:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt say Tone should have caught it. It was over his shoulder and the defender was blocking most of what little vision he could get on the ball, true it could have been caught but I don’t think its an easy one by any means.
by shleeve on Sep 21, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not easy -
But that’s the catch you have to make if you are going to be an elite receiver in the NFL. He had two hands on the ball and just lost concentration.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 21, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. For the second week in a row Ben took a sack that took points of the board.
I think that sack was on Hines, he needed to break from his route a lot sooner, Ben looked at him and when he realized that Hines kept going he did the smart thing and kept the ball for the sack, well in field goal range.
by mikemex on Sep 21, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There really wasn’t anyone remotely open on that play. I’d rather Ben take the sack than try and throw a lame duck to a receiver and have it picked off.
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by steelguy99 on Sep 21, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed, that simple.
Was really surprised to see him miss those two kicks for you guys. He is automatic usually. Guess it was the Chicago weather. But I can’t imagine it being THAT much worse than in Pittsburgh. Just not your day. Many more opportunities to come.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 20, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You
Have been around here awhile, but thank you for not rubbing it in. Man this was a painful loss.
by Romain El 82 on Sep 21, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
You’re alright, Mr. M… Congrats on your Ravens today. :)
by TheHumbleOne on Sep 21, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tough to swallow
Blitz, you summed it up greatly, I also thought they should’ve run it there on 3rd and 2. The thing that stood out is that our usually clutch players, Reed & Holmes, failed. Bad day at the office, however, intra-conference loss hurts less than others.
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by The_Nation_in_Mexico on Sep 20, 2009 11:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I thought Arians did a good job...
Last week, people were clamoring for him to air it out and that’s what he did on the biggest play of the game…the 3rd and 2.
If he runs it with Parker or Mendenhall up the middle and they get stopped, yinzers would be throwing him off of the Smithfield Bridge. I can hear them now: “We can’t run the ball on short yardage! Right up the middle! So predictable!”
It’s easy to say that the pass play was a dumb decision because it didn’t work. That’s what evaluating play calling is so hard. The players have to execute and can make Arians look good or bad on any given down.
I think today’s loss falls more on failed execution than misguided strategy, but that’s just me.
by BlitzburghBlog on Sep 21, 2009 2:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
I have 0 fault with BA’s play-calling this week. He put the players in great position to make plays, and they weren’t able to deliver with enough consistency to secure a W. That’s why they play the games.
by JHolmes on Sep 21, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The defense
Other teams have found a way to attack this defense.
They will quit running the ball and stop trying 5 or 7 step drops passes to their WR. Instead they will do screens, short crossing routes to RB and TE, short slants, roll the QB for comeback routes, spread the defense and attack the middle with TE or slot WR, and if everything else is not there they just take the 3 or 4 automatic yards from the cushion our DB give the WR constantly. Just throw the ball fast and live to fight another down. Harrison and Woodley just can’t get there in time.
They won’t be successful all the time, but it will work 3 or 4 times during a game for 17 to 24 points, and with the inconsistency of our offence this should be enough to have a chance to win.
At least this has been the game plan the last three games (including SB) and has worked.
Our defense will be great but I don’t think it will be close to last year. Hence, on less the offence steps up, there will be more games like this one.
by mikemex on Sep 21, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last two opponents average 13.5 points against us
Teams have been doing this to us for awhile now, and still it hasn’t worked terribly well. We have given up 27 points in our first two games, against quality opponents. Without Troy, we are missing our one true playmaker in the secondary. IMO, there is no reason to panic. This wasn’t the kind of game that exposed huge problems. We simply failed to execute at key moments in the fourth quarter against a very motivated, and desperate team. I’m certainly not happy we lost, but let’s not sound a warning bell here
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by idiscgolftexas on Sep 21, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Well said Discgolf, both sides of the ball looked great IMO, Jeffie just missed his normal makes. We have come to expect him making those. It doesn’t go that way every time. Great game by everyone else, though.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Sep 21, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Different defense
First point – A completely different defense without Troy Polomalu on the field. I honestly believe the game would have turned out differently had he been in it.
Second point – Willy Parker is missing his explosiveness that he used to have. Their running game just could not get it done. Gotta throw it more.
by Stace on Sep 21, 2009 6:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for once
I’ll say that BA called a good game. The offense DOMINATED the entire game, 4-5 dropped passes were drive killers, 2 missed field goals, and some holes in the secondary lost this game. I think that was the most solid (whole game) offensive performance we’ve seen in a while. Everything was working. Defence was solid, we just never made “the play” that we are used to making to save the day. Harrison forced a fumble and no one jumped on it. We were close to the ball, but no one made the effort to try to catch it. Just one of those games. Better now than in the playoffs
by Steelde#1 on Sep 21, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
have to agree with BlitzburgBlog
I hate to say it, but I thought BA called a pretty good game – strictly pass-first early on with a few runs mixed in to keep the Bears D honest. we marched right down the field on a drive that took over 10 minutes off the clock!! The D forced two 3-and-outs. We were moving the ball well again, including two 12yd rips by FWP before Ben took the shot to Wallace.
Chicago made adjustments and started moving the ball with short passes (did anyone else notice that Gay was picked on the ENTIRE game?) but still couldn’t clear the 50.
The Steelers stayed in the no-huddle/shotgun as it started raining hard, but three incompletions to Tone later, and we’re punting to the Bear’s three. Cutler and Knox then eat most of rest of the half on a 97-yard drive, highlighted by 20 yards in penalties and the vicious hit on Olsen.
2nd half starts with two more incompletions to Tone and a 3-and-out, and the Bears follow suit. Steelers O still not in rhythm, but Pulverizer is keeping the Bears inside their 30 each time. Mendenhall leads the next drive to go up 7 with the longest ground burst so far this year. Steelers D keeps the Bears O from doing anything in the quarter.
The O start the 4th with a nice 6 min drive that ends in Sparky’s first miss. Cutler then shreads the D on a 70yd drive capped by the Knox TD. I can’t pin this score on any individual – just a real nice drive by Cutler, who spread the ball around, while eating over 8min. Ben marched the O right back down the field, in only 3min, just to see Sparky miss another one. The Bears catch a break on the Forte fumble, then pass the rest of the way for the Gould game winner. It didn’t help that they had over 3min of clock and started at their own 33, but I thought our D played a bit too conservative on the final drive.
In the end, the stats were close to even in almost every category (including ToP, penalties, 3rd down conv, yards), as I think most of us thought they would be.
lack of execution = loss to good team in their building
"If I could start my life over again I would be a pro football player and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler!" Jack Lambert Hall of Induction speech 1990
by Throw it Ben! on Sep 21, 2009 7:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't heard anyone mention...
When Mike Wallace refused to fight for a first down on the sideline on that fateful last drive. He happily stepped out two yards short, rather than taking on the defensive back in front of him. I don’t know if he would have picked up the first down, but he didn’t even try to. Late in the 4th quarter you have to fight for that first down. If he would have, I suspect we would have won this game. I have to believe Tomlin is going to kill the rookie this week.
13 years and no playoff wins for the Dallas Cowboys... SWEET!
by idiscgolftexas on Sep 21, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't mad he didn't fight for the 1st
However, I was pissed he stepped out of bounds. You have to have the wits to keep the clock running in that situation. He should have put his head down and tried to run through the DB and stayed in bounds.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Sep 21, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly right!
If he doesn’t want to get hit, then at least fall down IN BOUNDS!!!
by dawgs144 on Sep 21, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I think he expected to get hit immediately. His momentum then carried him OB. I don’t think for a second he just refused to fight for a 1st down.
But I also thought that was a big play. Dam, you got to get that 1st down! Changes the complexion of things completely if he does.
I also think he was really concentrating on making the catch and not dropping it. Makes the catch, expects the hit…doesn’t come, and his momentum takes him OB.
I really like him. He will make some significant plays this year.
by SteelerMike on Sep 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, Mike Wallace wimped out
First off, let me confess that I’m a Bears fan. That being said, I respect Steelers fans as being very knowledgeable and passionate football fans. I can’t believe more people aren’t acknowledging idiscgolf(from Texas no less)‘s notion that Mike Wallace had no understanding of the gane situation when he daintily (I think that’s a word) stepped out of bounds, rather than take on the Bear’s D back , which most likely, would have resulted a first down for the Steelers. Would the 1st down have resulted in a different outcome? Who knows, but as a bears fan, I’m happy Wallace played it the way he did. Rookie mistake or a pansy receiver……time will tell.
Bears and Steelers……..rematch in the Super Bowl. Bears prevail as Wallace steps out on the 2 with no time left on the clock.
by mnplayer11 on Sep 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was pissed he didn’t fight for the first and he stepped out. Although for some reason I thought that it was 3rd down on that play so I was REALLY mad. Then I saw it was 2nd down so that tempered it a little. But still, he needed to lower the head and stay the hell in bounds. Chalk that up to a rookie lack of awareness.
I gotta hang this one on skippy, but that man has won so many big ones for us I gotta cut him a break. It’s game 2 of a long season, but I hope we don’t have to look back at this game and see it was the difference in us winning the division. The Ravens look very tough this year. Just glad we won’t play them until Troy is back.
The Steelers have games every year that they should win, and don’t. We didn’t win 16 in the regular season last year either so lets be like Mike T. and put it in that tiny rear view mirror and concentrate on the Bengals. Who looked pretty good yeaterday as well. At least the Stains are a constant in the universe. LOL
by Deuce Blue on Sep 21, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3rd & 2
should be an easy pick up. We didn’t have to run it up the middle, the stretch play was working to the ol’s right side. If we don’t make it, we’re still in field goal range and precious seconds have ticked off the clock. Yeah Tone was doing his Roberto Duran imitation “Hands of Stone” a couple of times.
by SoFlaSteeler on Sep 21, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3rd and 2/ 3rd and short...
Hasn’t been an easy pick up for Pitt for 2 years now. It should be an easy pick up, but Reed should make at least one of two of those kicks. I don’t say that to blame Reed in any way, I’m just saying should goes out the window in football. You either make it or you don’t. Should they have chosen a running play? I think so too. But it would not have been a gimme with our O-Line’s run blocking, heck he may of lost a few.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to sound like Chicken Little
But as Blitz rightly points out, the D is suffering without Troy, and “Big Play” Willie Gay is looking particularly weak in coverage. So far we’ve seen two teams dink and dunk their way around the D and the pass rush hasn’t been as effective as last year. I for one am worried about the weak spot in #22. The only consolation I can hope for is a healthy Troy and Lawrence Timmons. LT ought to be able to make the dinking and dunking harder, and Troy will do his thing all over the secondary.
I just can’t help but wonder how long it will take the D to return to form. Will we be worse than 6-2 at the Bye and have to play for our lives down the stretch?
by sylvansteeler on Sep 21, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree, mostly...
But for as talented as our offense is, they have to be able to score more than 17 points against a Chicago defense that isn’t nearly as good as it once was.
We can’t keep expecting to win games 14-10 week in and week out. The offense left two or three TDs out there yesterday.
by BlitzburghBlog on Sep 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Running game
Watch the formations we use for our sucessful running play. Every play that got 5 yards or more came out of a 3WR set- more importantly,Chicago only had 6-7 men in the box. When the box is not loaded up, our guys can block them. When we telegraph a run play, which we do ALL the time, we get stoned.
Same as last year. Arians needs to keep defense guessing a little more.
by scottd7 on Sep 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holmes
You can’t blame Arians for the fact that Holmes had a brutal day once the rain started.
In the last three quarters yesterday Ben targeted Holmes 12 times. The result: 3 for 12 for 40 yards. That includes at least two drops that I remember and a third play on which Tone slipped and could have had a huge gain. Arians made some quality calls there and the team just couldn’t execute.
And I don’t even blame Holmes. It happens. Slick, unfamiliar field, slick footballs. Just terrible conditions for him.
There aren’t going to be many games where Ben misses on 75% of his throws to Holmes.
by Steelers in XLIV on Sep 21, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Slick football?
Chicago’s WRs didn’t seem to have any trouble.
by JHolmes on Sep 21, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play to what's working...
I really think the Steelers (and any team for that matter) should play to what’s working.
The Steelers obviously can toss that ball around really well. Why not do that all the time, let teams get used to that that is what they do best….then that will eventually force teams to play the pass more, which will open up the run.
Teams use the run to open up the pass…so there is no reason the pass cant be used to open up the run.
This is the defending super bowl champion steelers…and they just need to tweak a couple things and stay strong till Troy gets back.
by Ragnar808 on Sep 21, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BMF's thoughts
Well, I was watching this game through crappy peer to peer tv, but I still managed to form plenty of strong opinions.
1. The defense was about what I expected. We were without our best DB and we were going against a QB that can really move the ball. Not that we had anyone who could pick the ball off, but he was careful with the ball and very efficient. 17 points isn’t really that many, and neither is 275 yards. They had a good game plan and didn’t let our pressure get home.
2. Bruce Arians (or whoever is calling plays) may have improved as a playcaller this offseason. I believe this may have been the best called game I’ve seen since Whis left. Like usual, the offense stagnated after the first drive, but unlike numerous other games, I don’t feel the playcalling was largely to blame for it. We continued to throw the ball (including sometimes on first down!!) and we even got the running game going by using (gasp) man blocking. I felt the offense had a sense of urgency and purpose on each drive, which has always been one of my biggest issues with Arians. We have yet to go up against a defense that uses man coverage, which was our biggest issue last year, but for now I’ll give him a “B” (which, if you factor in his learning disability, should be an “A”).
3. Stat of the week, thanks to ESPN’s cool additional stats this year: Santonio Holmes – 5 receptions, 14 targets. Wow. That’s 9 incomplete passes, many of which were dropped. According to their stats, there were only 3 incomplete passes targeted at someone else and no other receiver missed more than one. I don’t know if it was all Holmes’ fault or if it was a combination of him and Ben, but the execution was very poor, and it cost us the game. Santonio Holmes, you are Arians for a day!!
4. Ultimately, we got a taste of our own medicine. We let a team we should be beating stay with us, suffered from a “home field advantage” that makes opposing kickers miss otherwise easy kicks, and through some poor time management allowed the other team to put together a clutch drive (even though it was one of the least impressive “game winning drives” I’ve seen) to finish the game. Hats off to the Bears. Nice victory.
5. While I’m very disappointed that we lost and that the Ravens are up a game on us, I’m encouraged about our prospects as a team. All our opponents aren’t going to bring in U2 to ruin Reed’s footing, Holmes isn’t going to be this awful all the time, Ben won’t have that many mediocre games, and Troy will return and make this defense great again. I would have been a lot more depressed if our offense was a disorganized mess like usual and we almost pulled off a last minute victory in the 2 minute offense. If our offensive playcalling really can be average or even an asset, we could beat people on both sides of the ball.
6. Next week is going to be big. Palmer has put up a lot of yards and points (for both teams), and without Troy, we’re not going to get many interceptions. If we do what we can do, we should be fine, but if our execution is sub-par again, the Bengals will be more than happy to send us to 1-2.
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by BadMaafala on Sep 21, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great observations
BMF I usually agree with about 90 per cent of your opinions. This time it’s 100 per cent. A very win-able game went down the toilet primarily because of some untimely poor execution by Ben, Santonio and Reed. The offensive game plan and most of the play-calling was excellent. The running game was an effective complement to the pass. There were mistakes made in execution on potential scoring drives that allowed the game to remain close and eventually the Bears decided to accept the gift. Teams are game-planning around our blitz pressure and we need to get better underneath coverage from LBs and DBs but otherwise the defense was fine though somewhat uninspired. I thought the blitz packages in general were vanilla and predictable. Cutler knew exactly what to do with them. He played one of the best games of his career in terms of protecting the ball and following the game plan and his receivers made some outstanding catches.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 21, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about starting K. Ratliff at SS in place of Carter?
Guys, just thought about this, how about starting CB/S K. Ratliff at strong safety instead of the gimpy Carter? That’d be like getting a 3rd corner in the base D who can also play in the box. It also adds more speed and coverage ability.
Ratliff has made plays and has started games in the NFL, so he might be a better alternative than the green R. Mundy. However, if you start Ty Carter against Carson Palmer, it won’t be pretty. The Bungles will single him up all day and torch him.
Also, this is a game that the Steelers can’t hide Ike Taylor and Willie Gay. Palmer is going to test both of them, like he always does the Steelers corners. Thoughts?
by datruth4life on Sep 21, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bears brought their "A" game
Chicago had no turnovers. They had a smart game plan on offense, using quick passes and screens to neutralize the Steelers blitz. Their defense, even missing Urlacher, made enough good plays to slow down the Steelers offense, at least after the first drive. Their special teams shut down Logan for the most part.
The Steelers, on the other hand, failed to adjust on defense, had problems in the red zone, dropped passes, and missed two field goals. Clearly a “B” game at best. As defending champions, we had better get used to the other team giving us their best shot. Right now, we are not taking it well.
by Steelin on Sep 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Under Thrown Pass
Ben’s arm was hit as he threw the pass to Wallace. It was not necessarily a bad decision. Maybe he saw an opening. Wallace was behind his defender.
regis18
by Schmedlap on Sep 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not the D's fault
Defense played great against a very potent QB they only gave up 17 points. I will say it again and every week Coach Tomlin is blowing smoke about run concerns and is furious that he can’t run the ball. Championships are won and lost on 3rd and 2’s and if you can’t pound it between the tackles get used to tuff losses. Da Bears and the whole league know that on short yardage Ben is looking for dump offs and will continue blitzing and dropping guys to pick up the RB flaring out. You must be able to run to win PERIOD! Last year teams were still thinking we ran first so Moore was able to catch flares and pick up yards this year he may get a couple big plays but the D is gonna start swarming. I am very scared of the Ravens because they RUN the ball down your throat. Run game was looking good till they go short yardage. In regards to the O coordinator I think he is good but after the first 15 script plays he loses focus and wings it need a gameplan for the whole game coach not just the first 15 plays but hey he is a champ so its all good.Even with the many mistakes on O (drop balls etc. we still were the better team Reed you just choked this game twice go beat up another towel dispenser and forget about it! Go Steelers
by Darold L on Sep 21, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching the game
FROM the actual stadium, I saw a few times when Ben aired it out that other people than who he actually threw to were open. There was one specifically and Blitz, I actually think it’s what you raised in your initial question about Wallace that Hines was wide open in the slot. The safety was actually BEHIND him, so it would have been about a 15 yard gain or so getting tagged once he caught the ball.
Whoever he actually did throw to, and I think it was Wallace had a defender or two right with him….it just surprised me because Hines is the vet AND he was open…but guess Ben didn’t see him….couldn’t tell what play was called but he threw it pretty quickly tho the Line had good protection and CHI wasn’t blitzing…
Anyway, I think there were some problems…across the board…but it’s week two, I’m sure MIke T gave them an earful…and you can kinda tell from the post-game press conference quotes that was the case.
Steelergurl
by Steelergurl on Sep 21, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
carter is a headhunter
he is always looking to to put that great hit and it puts him in awkward positions all the time,he is a loose cannon, i rather have mundy play, but for some reason the steelers dont like to play back up players, i think is a money thing. regarding the offense we lost
t/e sean m. he was as good as a fullback, but really i think tomlin and arians have to stop being so stuborn and get the front office to get a decent fullback , look at all the great teams in the nfl, fortyniners, cowboys, chargers and of course the old steelers this guys have history right under their noses, but their ego gets in the way, i hope they
dont ruin this season
by steelpony on Sep 24, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
running game
I firmly believe Mendenhall deserves way more chances than he is getting. I would like to see him used to set up fast willie rather than the other way around. 3rd and short are instance we should come to depend on Mendenhall, he was a tremendous 3rd down runner at Illinois. Also just wanted to say if asked me ever in a million years did I think Jeff Reed would miss 2 field goals in the same game I would say 1000 out of 1000 times NO WAY!! That was just an unfortunate anomaly with bad timing.
by steelersrule13 on Sep 26, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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