Steelers Defense Needs Huge Contributions From Lawrence Timmons In Troy Polamalu's Absence
A couple of thoughts from me about the Pittsburgh Steelers's defense - a topic that seems to keep creeping in to my mind as I try to determine how the immediate and intermediate future of the team will play out. To start, I'd say that I think the Steelers problems largely lie on the defensive side of the ball. I know the offense has had its struggles. And to be sure, 27 points through two games won't cut it over the long haul. I'd like to comment more on the offense in a different post, but I would say here, just remember how efficient Ben Roethlisberger and the passing game has looked for most of the first two games. And also, don't sneeze that the success the running game had against Chicago, even if it was inconsistent and not enough to rely on or lead us to victory.
Anyway, I am quite concerned about this defense without Troy Polamalu. Before the season started, I stated on multiple occasions that I thought we would see a noticeable dropoff between the play of Bryant McFadden and William Gay. I think Gay will be just fine over time, but as he gets initiated in to every down play in the National Football League, he's definitely taking his lumps. Reserve safety Tyrone Carter is also getting plenty of flack for his play in Polamalu's absence. At this stage in his career, we know what kind of player he is and what he's capable of contributing. To expect more from him really is unrealistic. Yes, the Steelers have won football games with him starting - most notably in 2007 when Polamalu missed five games - but if you look back at those games, the best team performances were against hapless offenses like the Seahawks (w/o Hasselbeck), the Dolphins (the Mud Bowl game), and a depleted Bengals offense.
The long of the short of it, to me at least, is that this defense is going to need one player in particular to really step up his game this next month. That player is Lawrence Timmons, who saw his first action of the 2009 season on Sunday against the Bears. Timmons played pretty well against the Bears. He had two passes defended and three tackles. He was around the ball on numerous other plays and generally looked as quick and as explosive as I remember him being late last year when he really started to come on.
Think back to Sunday's game real quick with me. Do you remember how it seemed as if the Steelers were frequently this close to getting to Jay Cutler and forcing a momentum-changing sack? We'll see if I have time to re-watch the tape of this one later in the week, but I definitely can recall at least two or three times when Cutler gracefully sidestepped a blitzer and got rid of the ball. My recollection is that James Farrior was the blitzer that was getting close, but not making the play.
It seems to me that teams are spending quite a bit of capital in their pass protection packages to negate the effect of reigning Defensive Player of the Year James Harrison. Deebo has yet to register a sack this year. I do think he's getting held more frequently than is being called. And he's faced two great left tackles to start the year. But I do also think that teams are more than cognizant of the fact that he's difficult to contain with just one man.
Consequently, I think we've seen James Farrior being sent on stunts up the middle where there's less attention being paid by opposing offensive lines. In my humble opinion - and I'm certainly no Dick LeBeau - I'd swap James Farrior for Lawrence Timmons as the guy who should be most frequently sent up the middle while dropping the more savvy Farrior in to pass coverage. Timmons has ability in pass coverage - two passes defended in his first game back from injury should tell you something. But he's just more explosive and disruptive getting after the quarterback in my estimation.
Remember the play he made against Joe Flacco in the second regular season matchup between the Ravens and Steelers last December? The one where he displayed an amazing combination of speed, balance and explosive closing speed to sack Flacco and force a fumble that put them out of field goal range?
Those are the kinds of plays that have been lacking the first two weeks of the 2009 regular season. Or at least the last 6 quarters since Polamalu was injured. There are lots of talented individual players on the unit, and they're all coached by one of the best in the business. But with all the attention that Harrison, and even Woodley to some extent, are getting, there's not one athlete on the roster as capable of making a game-changing play with his athleticism than Lawrence Timmons.
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give Cutler alot of credit
There aren’t many QBs at all who can throw accurately while backpedaling like he did on several occasions. Carson Palmer definitely can’t.
by schnifin on Sep 22, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Cutler played a hell of a ballgame. There is no defense for a perfect pass and he put more than a couple perfect passes in the air on Sunday under heavy duress. The franchise QB that Chicago thought they got from Denver showed up Sunday. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Cutler played like a grown man Sunday, not the crybaby he was appearing to be all off-season.
by Mr 412 on Sep 23, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I have a bad memory
but every time I remember Timmons blitzing he gets knocked around by small running backs and the QB ends up making a big play. I don’t remember the flacco one you are talking about so I guess just the bad ones are sticking in my brain. I think Farrior does a good job on the blitzes. (plus I have farrior on my fantasy team…he needs sacks and tackles, so i hope they don’t change it up) =)
by Steelde#1 on Sep 22, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Farrior vs Timmons
I’ve never put numbers to it, but you may be right.
Timmons seems to rush past linemen. He’s good at exploiting gaps and seams. I think Blitz is right about him being the faster of the two. However, Farrior seems to be better at forcing his way through anyone who gets between him and the QB.
by Varmint on Sep 22, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes your memory is a bit off
Go to this video to the 1:30 minute mark.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fact
that’s a running back that he’s destroying.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 22, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's going around that running back not through him
i don’t think he’s destroying that running back, he got around him, he needs to do more of that though, because he didn’t last year, and he’s not usually good at taking on a block and shedding, one small back usually takes him out, so if he’s to contribute more on rushing the qb, he needs to be aware of the blocker more and get around him like he did on that video
by waldoshot on Sep 23, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you on Timmons
the video that blitzburgh is talking about shows Timmons going around the back not through him, which is fine as long as he does go around the back more when he blitzes, but sadly he doesn’t, he prefers taking on the back and end up getting knocked around like you said
by waldoshot on Sep 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree that D isn't the same without Troy P.
But I don’t think the sky is falling either. Timmons needs to play his game (hopefully at his highest level), everyone else on D play theirs, and Ty Carter needs a seat on the bench right now. He just doesn’t have the speed or coverage abiltiy to play in this team’s base D right now. You can protect him a little in 2-deep safety coverage in our nickel pkg, but not in the base 3-4.
People need to remember that this isn’t the first time that Cutler has did this to our D. He also did it as a rookie in Denver. His quick release and ability to throw while drifting away from the rush are impressive.
Still, Jeff Reed’s two missed field goals, Santonio’s drop in the end zone, the Steelers turnovers, and the holding penalties on special teams were as much a part of the Steelers losing this game as the Bears’ play.
by datruth4life on Sep 22, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever Lebeau can do to beat Cincy on Sunday and avoid going 1-2 to start off the season
I agree, Timmons athletic ability needs to be unleashed on Sunday. Especially against a weak Cincy O-line.
by Freddyd on Sep 22, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm With You Blitz.
I think that Timmons can add enough to the defense to keep it doing well until Troy gets back.
Here is a wild idea for you. As athletic as Timmons is, maybe he should play strong safety until Polomolu gets back?
Harrison and Woodley have to get stronger. They are the key to the Steelers having good pass coverage. If thos two give the QB time to throw, it will be a long day.
Two things to remember: The Steelers defense did well enough to win the game is Jeff Reed hits his field goals. And on the irrational side of things, the Steelers have only ever won once in Chicago, so they wer fighting a jinx. LOL
by WyoFan on Sep 22, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pressure is there
I think everyone is too focused on sacks. There is still pressure, but we’ve faced two teams with quarterbacks who don’t get sacked. Collins gets rid of the ball quickly and Cutler is athletic enough to get the two steps he needs to throw, and he was very accurate Sunday with throws under pressure. Timmons is an added weapon to the blitz package but he’s more important in coverage against the kind of throws that we are going to see all year. Dumpoffs to the running backs, screens, short passes to tight ends. He can defend passes and make tackles for little gain. That may not result in sacks, but it will result in punts.
I thought our blitz package against Chicago was very predictable.Farrior came close a couple times, but otherwise it was at most a five-man rush package. The poor turf at Soldier Field was a factor in both teams’ outside pass rush. When Ben got sacked, it was because of pressure inside the OTs or up the middle. I don’t recall seeing a safety blitz or a corner blitz. I don’t recall seeing Keisel or Smith drop back off the line of scrimmage instead of pass rushing, using height and arm length to disrupt passing lanes. Did Harrison ever loop around Kiesel to rush up the middle? If so it was blocked well or I missed it. The only guy I see somewhat underperforming to date up front is Woodley. He’s getting good push on occasion, but is he just destroying anyone for an immediate in your face hello? Again, maybe I’ve forgotten a play or two.
Timmons can be a source of big plays, as per the play vs. Baltimore last year. Without Troy we have lost a big-play guy, one of the best in the league. But the defense overall is not swiss cheese. Good basic defense will eventually produce big plays and the onus is on the offense to put up some points.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 22, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you questioning the game plan of Dick Labeau?
There is nothing predictable about the NFL. The moment you start thinking your are already a step behind. This gets lost in translation by us casual fans all the time. Some times you have to use the element of surprise. While I don’t question your logic, I do trust the devensive schemes that we run. James Farrior may not be as an explosive as rusher as Timmons, but at the same time Farrior may not be as good a cover guy as the freakish athlete of Lawrence Timmons.
Maybe the only reason Farrior gets to the quaterback on those plays is because the offense was anticipating a blitz from 94, and by sending Farrior we caught their block scheme off guard.
The only “thinking” that should be done is thinking that Dick LeBeau knows exactly what he is doing on every single defensive play!
by TheCommish on Sep 22, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Offense needs to step up IMO
As I wrote in my analysis of the game (linked to in a FanShot), I think it’s the offense that needs to step up. They should have been more able to impose their will on a somewhat overrated defense this past weekend, but they could not. Perhaps the weather had something to do with that, but as has been stated elsewhere on this site, the running game may not have been utilized enough in the second half.
As far as Gay not playing well, I thought he was fine in game 1. The big pass plays that allowed the Titans to score at the end of the first half were on Ike and Clark. If you’re saying that because Gay allowed a few 8-12 yard passes in the first couple of games, I’d say that I saw our defense do that several time last year, with Ike, Deshea or McFadden in there as well. It seems to occur when the DBs are playing with a cushion. I can’t say that I remember McFadden ever being spectacular last year. Sure he was solid, even very good. But, I think that his agent is overrating him if he thinks that he’s an $8-12M/yr CB (IIRC, that’s the range he gave). I guess I’m just saying that I don’t see where Gay is the considerable dropoff from McFadden that he’s been called the last couple of games. True, the pass defense has been below last year’s average. But, so have the sacks. I haven’t looked at the pressures, but they may be down some as well. And, the games haven’t shown the defense to have dropped off that much.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Sep 22, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roethlisberger and Cutler did not shake hands after the game, they snubbed eachother.
Where is the Inside Scoop on that?
Get TMZNFL on this story, I want some juicy NFL Gossip. I want some more NFL Drama.
by lightningrod on Sep 22, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Timmons is a name you’d have if you played in San Fran……
by Nostradomus on Sep 22, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This website is ‘behind the curtain’, it should be ‘in the closet’
by Nostradomus on Sep 22, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more lame comment and we're going to say bye to you
You’ve added nothing at all since beginning to troll. Thanks.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 22, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not 100% sure, but I think he was just joking at my comment about the NFL Drama
I was just joking though about that. It was a sarcastic joke.
by lightningrod on Sep 22, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Going off topic
Sorry for throwing in an off-topic comment but I could not find an appropriate place for it. Does anyone else get that warm, fuzzy feeling when they see the Titans are 0-4 since disrespecting the towel? When will they learn?
by mantho on Sep 22, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just an opinion but
Teams are attacking the middle of the defense with quick drops, doing a lot of crossing routes to RB and TE.
They are also attacking the zone behind the LB; Fox was badly beat by a TE for a 30 yard gain, and Farrior was late to one of the Bears TD.
The defense already has Carter guarding the middle, who we know is not to fast, add Farrior in coverage and the middle becomes a slow place for RB, TE and slot WR to attack with 3 or 4 step drops.
This defense needs Timmons to provide the speed needed to cover that middle with explosion and burst. So the 3 or 4 step drop is not there and OLB have time to get to the QB.
Finally I think Farrior is great at blitzing, he still has that quick first step, is great at finding the open gap, and shred blocks to get to the QB (Yes I know Cutler side step him and Farrior missed the sack on third down that will have send this game to over time). Timmons is all explosiveness but the RB takes him out to easy. He will learn, just let him learn when Polamalu is back and that middle of the defense is well guard.
Small detail but I remember Hasselbeck playing when we beat the Seahawks 21 to 0 without Troy.
by mikemex on Sep 22, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think youre right about hasselbeck
I think they were without their top two (or maybe even top 3) wideouts now that i think more carefully. thanks.
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by Blitzburgh on Sep 22, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with your assessments on Timmons and Farrior
i think Timmons should be there more than Fox, Fox was a liability in coverage and teams will be throwing more on 1st and 2nd downs, and Farrior is definitely better at shedding blocks than Timmons, Timmons is good at going around running backs but he doesn’t seem to do more of it when he blitzes, he prefers to take on the backs and end up being taken out most of the time if not all of the time
by waldoshot on Sep 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
A little late, but the bears are who we thought they were!!
This is Pittsburgh Steeler Troy Polamalu getting knocked around by the Pacific Ocean in Hawaii yesterday...
Minutes later, Troy caught the ocean going over the middle and smacked it right in the mouth. The ocean fumbled, Troy recovered and ran it into the endzone. The ocean never messed with Troy again.
by paulamalu on Sep 22, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just rewatched the game
and I can see some reason to be upset at the defense, but I can also see just as much reason to be upset at the offense. They had 1st and 10 at the 14 in the drive where Reed missed his first FG and couldn’t score a TD. And, as lifer said, Ben giving up a sack in that situation is inexcusable (better than a pick, but still). And, I still don’t see the obvious dropoff in play from McFadden to Gay. Most of the big gains the defense gave up were draws and screens, just like against the Pats, Cowboys, and other teams last year.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Sep 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
That game vs. the Seahawks in ‘07, they did have Hasselbeck. He ended up going 13-27 for a little over 100 yards that day. He threw the pick to Ike Taylor to end the first half (Seattle’s only scoring opportunity, that game, also). They were without Deion Branch, who got injured in the first quarter and fullback Mack Strong, who we literally knocked out.
I agree with you about our pass rush, though. I would love to see Lawrence shooting in sometimes, especially on that Inside Linebacker criss-cross blitz that we run a lot. There were a few times in both games this year where i’ve seen Silverback and Woods both get close on different occasions but both keep getting held something fierce. On that pass where T.C. clocked Greg Olson (that he got fined for), Woods was getting mugged by the right tackle. He was getting held so bad, he was basically forced into a bull rush because the RT was all over him so bad, it could damn near qualify as date-rape….
Who ride? WE RIDE!
by Peezie on Sep 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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