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Pittsburgh Steelers (1-1) @ Cincinnati Bengals (1-1): Q&A With Cincy Jungle

Many thanks to Josh over at Cincy Jungle for taking the time to answer a few questions about this Sunday's big AFC North matchup between the Steelers and the Bengals. Head on over to their fine blog for more information about the game, as well as to check out my answers to his questions at some point later this evening. - Michael B. -

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1) I've written on numerous occasions that I thought the Bengals made a tremendously wise move picking up Cedric Benson last year. So what, a young millionaire 22 year old had a hard time adjusting to life as a professional and got caught drinking a few times? Irresponsible and typical of young men in their young 20s who never really had to deal with adversity before? Sure. But felon or worthless football player, that does not make in my book. Tell us about Benson so far in 2009. Is he creating something out of nothing or does a lot of the credit belong to the offensive line for opening up huge holes for him to run through?

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Cincy Jungle: You could give credit all around. The Bengals retooled-offensive line has played surprisingly well, especially up the middle. Jeremi Johnson is slowly regaining his older form when Rudi Johnson twice broke the franchise single-season rushing record. Laveranues Coles and Chad Ochocinco have contributed on some of the longer rushes; both are blocking well. The rushing offense has been a total effort, and largely responsible for beating the Green Bay Packers in week two.

Cedric Benson looks stronger, quicker and more agile than he did last year. When he hits the hole, he hits it hard. He's also shown a level of patience that he didn't really exhibit last year, allowing blockers to do their thing.


2) The Steelers have struggled defending the short and intermediate passing game of their first two opponents. Kerry Collins and Jay Cutler are notoriously good at getting rid of the ball quickly. Is Palmer doing the same thus far in 2009? Without T.J. Houshmandzadeh in Cincy, do the Bengals have that possession receiver who's able to use his body effectively in traffic to catch tough balls? How are Chris Henry and Laveranues Coles looking along side #85?

Cincy Jungle: For the most part, the Bengals have started relying on Andre Caldwell as their short-range guy that you could call the heir to the T.J. Houshmandzadeh throne. And he's really good. Houshmandzadeh, while not the most talented, was perhaps one of the most intelligent football players on the field; meaning he always understood what defenses were trying to do and reacted as such. He also knew the importance of sustaining drives on third down, working every which way to get open underneath. Caldwell isn't there yet, in terms of his instinct and football intellect. However, in terms of his talent, he's already far above where Houshmandzadeh was in his second full year.

Coles hasn't proven much of anything. In his first week against the Broncos, he caught one of five passes targeted at him - most of them were drops. He rebounded last week and picked up a first down on a third-down conversion and recorded a touchdown. Having not seen the field much, Henry has seen limited production. He's, more or less, the team's fourth receiver on the depth chart, though he's admitted to having a quad issue.

As for Palmer, a lot of the passing offense is reverting back to the 2005 offense, where at least one receiver stretches the field, another sits in intermediate zones and a third crosses underneath. It's not a quick passing offense. Even though Palmer has been sacked five times through two games, we haven't had to deal with a nasty consistent pass rush yet this season forcing quicker three-step drops.


3) Back to the Bengals offensive line...who's going to block James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley this time around? The pass-rushing duo had a combined 5 sacks in the two games last year (Woodley 3; Harrison 2). I noticed Palmer has been sacked five times through the first two games. Is the offensive line better in run blocking than pass protection? Are some of those sacks a product of working Palmer back in to the fold? Talk to us. Steelers fans are dying to hear that Woodley and Harrison are ready to have a monster day.

Cincy Jungle: Bengals left tackle Andrew Whitworth allowed two sacks against the Green Bay Packers last weekend. On both sacks, the defensive pass rusher took an inside step and Whitworth had already committed himself to the outside, forcing him to lean; on one occasion, falling to his knees. The week before, Anthony Collins, the team's right offensive tackle, allowed two sacks. If you remember last year during the second meeting between the two teams, Collins started his first career NFL game against the Pittsburgh Steelers and James Harrison didn't record a sack in the game.

In truth, I'm nervous. Both of our offensive tackles have given up a combined four of the five total sacks allowed. I would like to say that you'll be disappointed, but we could as easily be disappointed. However on Wednesday, there's grumblings of changing up the offensive line against the Steelers also.


4) The Bengals have limited their first two opponents to just 75 (Denver) and 89 yards (Green Bay) on the ground so far. Is the Bengals defense continuing to build on some of the progress they made last year? Or were opponents abandoning the run in favor of the pass? It seems like the Steelers find a way to get their ground game going against the Bengals, even last year when their run game was decidedly down. Will the Steelers be able to get their ground game going against a familiar foe or will they encounter tough sledding with the Bengals rush defense?

Cincy Jungle: I wouldn't say that the Broncos or Green Bay abandoned the run - Denver was never losing the football game until there was a minute left in the game and against the Packers, the game was always within a score either way until late. The front seven is vastly improved since this time last year. With the combination of Tank Johnson, Domata Peko and Pat Sims at defensive tackle and safety Roy Williams darting through like a missile, the defense has a very good trio of linebackers in Dhani Jones, Keith Rivers and Rey Maualuga. The rushing defense isn't great by any means, but their improvement each week doesn't go unnoticed.

I believe that the Steelers rushing offense won't have the success they've had in the past. However, I'm not naïve enough to believe, since history dictates differently, that the Bengals will stop the Steelers rushing offense. But I do think we'll be able to contain better than we have in the past.


5) The Bengals rookie class was widely considered the best of the AFC North teams this year. Are any rooks making an early impact on the Bengals season thus far? We know 1st round pick Andre Smith was lost to injury, but have any of the other draft picks gotten early playing time and made the most of it?

Cincy Jungle: We've had some really good success with certain rookies. Last week, Rey Maualuga recorded a sack and two forced fumbles. Punter Kevin Huber is on pace to shatter the record for most punts inside the 20 in a season. Cornerback Morgan Trent and running back Bernard Scott are decent backups and Michael Johnson shows promise of being a quality pass rusher; he's still a step late. On the other hand, tight end Chase Coffman has been inactive in both regular season games, Andre Smith's story is well known and three draft picks (Fui Vakapuna, Clinton McDonald and Freddie Brown) didn't make the 53-man squad.

6) Prediction?

Cincy Jungle: I'll take the high road on this. I believe that the Bengals are a far better squad than what you guys saw in 2008, when you guys dominated us in every phase of the game. Our offense is light years better than last year and our defense has steadily progressed. I believe that this game will be close to the end.

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oh come on. no guesses, no bold statements? Boo…

I’m guessing….Dick figures out a better way to mask our secondary weaknesses. studies the game more. prepares even better against cincy. since they’re not as much a dink and dunk….we take em down defensively. although I think they might score a lot more than just 13 points.

blowout for steelers: 27 17.

by surag238 on Sep 24, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s funny that the best “blowout” numbers one can reasonably expect from the steelers are 27 17. That, by the way, is not a blowout.

Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL

by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha agreed

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Sep 25, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have scored 27 points in two games...

We might need to drop our expectations on what dictates a “blowout” this year.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Sep 25, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for stopping by Cincy Jungle! Appreciate the info!

I especially loved the part about the tackles looking vulnerable. No sacks so far by Harrison and Woodley is driving me nuts!!!

by Freddyd on Sep 24, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love your optimism

I really like when a fan can point out their punter is going to break a punt count record.

It means you are punting a lot, but you are good at finding the upside.

Keep looking up… at us!

by Mechem on Sep 24, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We punted a lot in Week 1, but not so many times in Week 2.

The point is that we’re winning field position. Huber to us is Sepulvida to you.

But as far as I can tell, Steelers fans are harboring as much hubris as GB fans, and love to make bold predictions. I’m glad Kirk took the high road; let the players have it out, the fans’ predictions really are quite insignificant.

Hoping for a good game! I’m sure I’ll be around to chat afterwards.

by jsl413 on Sep 24, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well for that matter

so is fan analysis. But it’s still fun to do. Steelers 83 – Bengals 0.

by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Sep 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rofl...

Only in the Arians 5 TE set can we do that kinda damage…

Remember you score as many TD’s as you average TE’s per play.

Or maybe its the inverse.

Just yankin the chain of the Bungle-nation back there too. Believe me, I respect the punt game.

by Mechem on Sep 25, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok that was pretty fucking hilarious.

by worldtrip on Sep 25, 2009 1:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

See I redeem myself sometimes…

by Mechem on Sep 25, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love these qa’s every week. Mechem; I generally enjoy your input. This time you disappointed me. The high road always provides the better view.

by worldtrip on Sep 24, 2009 9:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Just felt like poking some fun. Knowing me we should also know that 90% of the time I’m just dickin around when I poke fun at teams. I genuinely respect this matchup and have quite a bit of thoughtage on it.

Just this time felt like being a goof.

But in all seriousness, getting to the meat here. i actually think this will probably be the closest game weve had against cincy since, well, they beat us in 05. Personally I think they have had a decent defense that was missed due to their overall performance the last couple years. Its improved a lot.

That having been said the O-line of their game has pass blocking issues. Especially on the left, Harrisons side. I think this is Harrisons real Week 1 of the NFL now. Watch him go off.

by Mechem on Sep 25, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't mean to insult you Cincy Jungle

But there is no way you guys will score as many points on us as you did Green Bay. Benson runs hard, but there won’t be any holes to run through Sunday. Better take a page out of the Bear’s playbook and throw quick passes.

by StoneColdSteel on Sep 24, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"On pace to shatter the record for most punts inside the 20 in a season."

I have to admit, that made me laugh. Of all the possible records that stand to be broken if players or teams continue their pace after two games, this is one that someone is hyped about? And not just broken, but shattered! Looking forward to the Huber record watch as this season unfolds

Nice report though. The Bengals have improved and I think they got a steal with Maualuga lasting till the second round. Odom vs. Starks is a bit of a scary matchup, as are several others in this game. Odom reportedly put on 30 pounds in the off-season (now 280). Has he passed a drug test lately? It’s unusual for a peak athlete in his late 20s to change his body that much, and hard for that changed body to sustain its “new and improved” state for a long period without something breaking down. But then, at his current pace, he will only need half a season to shatter the NFL record for most sacks in a season.

by steeler.lifer on Sep 25, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It could happen

Ben could also continue his pace and throw for 4,672 yards this year. It could happen.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Sep 25, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now THAT wouldn’t surprise me. But would passing for 4,5000-plus yards be a sign that we win a lot of games or end up missing the playoffs?

by steeler.lifer on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am looking forward for

Brees 72 Td passes and Odom 56 sacks.
Just to name some of the records that will be shatter this year.

by mikemex on Sep 25, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nicely done.

Willie Colon - top 2 RT in the NFL

by steelguy99 on Sep 26, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha why are you giving him so much crap for the punting record thing?

He was asked about our rookie class. The Punter is doing really good. If Kirkendall would have said " the punter is playing good", that would be a joke. At least now you know how good he’s playing.

"Ghiaciuc's play was a distraction"

by firstPick on Sep 25, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good

I like when players play really good too. When I was in school I had this teacher that taught me to speak english really good.

by worldtrip on Sep 26, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steelers are going down

I’m a huge Dick Lebeau fan. BUT……….what Steeler fans don’t realize is that Marvin was able to bring in some quality free agents who respected Zimmer’s defensive scheme in namely Roy Williams and Tank Johnson. Zimmer has gone on record as saying that Domato Peko is the best DT he has ever coached. If the Steelers target to stop Antwan Odom, what they don’t realize is that Robert Geathers and others pressured the $hit out of Rodgers (Green Bay) last week. The Bengals defensive line is the best (and I have no hesitation in saying this) that it has ever been with Peko and Tank Johnson inside, and Geathers and Odom on the outside. Plus they have Michael Johnson, a third round pass rushing specialist in the fold too. The Bengals have been dominant in stopping the running game of opponents. I have no doubt that will continue this weekend.

The Steelers are in for a shocker. Even if Polamalu wasn’t hurt, they would be surprised by this Bengals team.

Times are changing. Mike Tomlin is overrated………he just inherited a good team. The cracks in the Steelers armor will appear this season. I am totally confident in saying so.

by Dude Rock on Sep 26, 2009 4:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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