Behind The Steel Curtain Live Thread: Pittsburgh Steelers Trimming Roster To 53 Players
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 3:36 PM EDT
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PrintSince information is going to be coming down the pike quite quickly over the next day or so regarding the Steelers cuts, I thought it would be appropriate to make a live thread that we can update and tweak as we find out more information. Countdown to Kick-Off is officially less than one week away. Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go!
The Pittsburgh Steelers organization was forced to make some difficult decisions this afternoon when they needed to cut their roster down from 75 to 53 men. Some difficult decisions have to be made and hopefully some of the bubble players that are cut can make it onto the 53 man roster.
Initial reports of the players cut are Carey Davis, Bruce Davis, Sonny Harris, Anthony Madison, A.Q. Shipley, Jason Capizzi, Isaac Redman, Justin Vincent, and Scott Paxson have all been reported to be cut by Mike Biers.
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wow, some are still going to come out….A.Q. talked directly to the Beaver County Times….the cuts have to be in by tomorrow so It won’t be long.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Steelers trading for Julius Peppers:
http://twitter.com/jimwexell/statuses/3763675200
charity standing orders
I almost threw up in my mouth
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I just
crapped my brother’s pants
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They have to cut him before they can practice squad him… no?
by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 4, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Speechless
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
lol Im sad also!! lol thats funny!!
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting to see
Who they kept over him, there will be a reason, and I think it is Stefan Logan/Shaun MacDonald. they were saying they wanted 9 between WR and RB, so I am guessing McDonald won out over Redman and Logan is a RB on the roster.
We’ll see, but that’s my guess. It means they have a lot of faith in Mendenhall.
Redman!!!
I’d almost prefer to keep him over Frank the Tank…practice squad that dude if need be…
I mean he’s cool but he barely played in pre-season…injury aside…go with the one who SHOWED it!!!
I’m passionate on this one…I think Redman deserves a slot.
Also, look @ Steelers/Titans notes and where Redman shows up on there…
Steelergurl
BMF, good one!
This extra day might allow K. Colbert to maybe move one of our veterans getting cut for a draft pick or scan the waiver wire to see if their will be an attractive swing tackle.
Time to get the hell out of this office & kick off the weekend. Take care all.
tackle?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Press conference
Is Mike Tomlin’s press conference still on at 4 and if so does anyone know if we can watch it online somewhere?
Ed Bouchette has some of the cuts announced. Carey Davis apparently one of the ones cut
by BluegrassSteeler on Sep 4, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
It is too bad.
After hearing that he was doing pretty well in camp, I got sucked into hoping that we could get a little younger on the D-Line more than just Hood this year.
I thought we had been hearing good things...
about Sonny Harris, and that Redman played well. Gusess Tank makes it after all….
Ya….tank must of shown something in practice when he was healthy
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Eh...
I dunno what other FB-types we had (besides McHugh), what with Davis being cut. Summers looks like he’s in there because there was no one else to do the job, really.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Sonny Harris cut? Now that ...
just messes up my weekend. Damn!
Apparently, all the other draftees made it though, besides Shipley/Harris. With Wallace/Johnson making the team, does this put Spaeth and McDonald in jeopardy?
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Dunno, my guess is they’ll keep McHugh now and go with a combo of Johnson/Summers as FB/TE/Short yardage back.
by BluegrassSteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think pittsburgh could IR McHugh
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we keep 5 wides
McDonald should be safe. Veteran and blah blah blah
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they listed him as a TE
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Carey Davis
Waived injured? VDF happened to him?
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Redman?
The guy plowed the final five yards through four first team defenders to reach the end zone last night. I hope Tomlin remembers that when he’s facing fourth and goal from the one against the Ravens.
I can't stand that thought
because last year that was a major freaking issue….
FWP and Mendy can’t do it….
I haven’t seen it…really.
Steelergurl
I don't understand the redman cut...
If we’re cutting carey davis, then does that not leave room for redman?
sad to see Redman go -- he showed bursts of inspired running
Carey Davis — not so much
Bill Beeelichick proved that in America it’s okay to cheat, as long as you cheat your way to the top. – Eric Cartman
almost unanamous
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Nor do I
Cutting Reman = gain a significant weapon = LOGAN
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Long way from unanimous
Redman is not yet a signficant weapon but I think he makes it to the practice roster. Nice prospect.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman is a RB and Davis is a FB…competing for different spots
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Sep 4, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad Summers got the spot from Davis…but am disapointed by the Redman cut.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
FWP, Delicious, MeMo, Tank
Then D. Johnson as TE/FB. I think some other guys made it difficult to keep more.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So Frank beat out Carey Davis for the starting FB?
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice…
I don’t understand cutting Redman, but hopefully Mendenhall will make me forget he was even on the roster by week 6.
Maybe we can trade Mendy, sign Redman, and save cap space!
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
oops, not cap space. It would cost us there.
But what about the actual money? Would we able to keep it?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
don't worry, they'll both get cut
why keep a fullback when it’s just keeping you from having another tight end? You’ve heard of the 5 wide set, right? Well, get ready for 5 tight!
Chill out
Redman is an undrafted free agent and Sonny Harris is a seventh rounder, they had nice preseasons, but its not like we are cutting sure fire probowlers here…
by FattyBoombastic on Sep 4, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
Rec’d
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman and Harris could stay
Fans always overestimate how hard it is to keep late round cuts and UDFAs who have a few good moments against backups. Maybe we lose both but it’s more likely we keep both on the practice squad. Still a lot we don’t know yet but I think it’s safe to say that out of the 3,261 roster predictions we’ve seen on BTSC, none will be right. Guessing can be fun though.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you think
You are over reacting to his reaction to their reactions?
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
You need to under react and over deliver (or something along those lines)
by Steelfrog on Sep 4, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure, but I think you're cool
These things tend to happen.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
duly noted
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I just get a bit annoyed when people tell others to chill out when the reactions aren’t over the top. People are just making comments and observations.
And then people actually rec’d it?
I knew the jokes. I laughed. I am the first to make fun of shit on here. I’ve been told to chill out before when simply engaged in a simple debate. It’s annoying.
my guess it was the d-bags who take themselves too seriously that told you to "chill"
Ima hitch onto your wave :)
no doubt
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
me being one of them
but not for the chill out part I guess. i would never want to stifle anyone’s opinion – except maybe yours.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
kidding
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Particularly
when the jokes are at my expense
by worldtrip on Sep 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
also
people really overstate how likely it is for guys who get cut to sign elsewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have the practice squad contracts drawn up for Harris and Redman
Shipley
apparently said the FO wants him there if he clears waivers too
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of amazes me..
That Harris and Shipley are the only two draftees to be cut, thats a lot of drafted players sticking with a superbowl team that didn’t lose much
PS plus Logan is awesome
by FattyBoombastic on Sep 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought they were
Just going by what the PG was reporting “Shipley is the one of two draft choices who didn’t make the 53-man roster. The other is defensive end Sonny Harris, a seventh-round pick who was also cut.”
Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09247/995619-66.stm#ixzz0QAlPCNNj
by FattyBoombastic on Sep 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
Yeah, on rereading you could be right on that
by FattyBoombastic on Sep 4, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that article says that they’re down to 53 players as Tomlin waived 22 guys…they just only listed 10 of them in the article
First and fourth paragraphs.
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Sep 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Stefan Logan.
We need room for him. He’s going to contribute much more offensive yardage than our 4th rb.
Indeed.
The drop-off from Logan to Burnett/Vincent last night was unbelievably pronounced. I already can’t imagine our ST without him.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
I didn't hear Burnett's name anywhere yet
Sounds like he’s on the squad. Though you are right, let’s hope they don’t need him to be fielding punts/kicks. After Logan’s display I think he’ll be the first pure special teamer in the Hall of Fame. HA! Seriously, this could get real exciting.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah right
Hes 28 dude… his chances of being first ST in HoF are slim.
Hester is currently probably the only shot at that and he needs more of a body of work.
Hester is his team's #1 WR also, so he's not really a pure STer anymore.
Just sayin’.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Yeah sad how that teams WR situation is...
Does it count if you suck as a WR though? Cause he has like no yards to his name.
Sarcasm alert
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman
Hopefully we’ll PS him, if he lasts. With FWP status unsure next year, I thought we’d keep Redman.
logan
what I noticed about the kickoff to start the 3rd quarter impressed me almost more than the 80yd TD.
He fumbled the return. Then recovered it, then ran out of the endzone past the 20. That showed me he was sharp, ballsy and also incredibly fast mentally. He knew he could recover the ball and get a step on the kicking team and still squeeze a few extra yards out. Correcting your mistakes and judging the field quickly is more important than 40 time, IMO.
Nuts
Tried to watch that live feed last night and failed. ESPN had the replay of Logan’s run (made top plays) but the didn’t show the mishandled KO. NFL Network is airing it on Sunday. Looking forward to catching the game.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Part of that could also be habit from the CFL, where there are no touchbacks or faircatches. Not that it makes much of a difference as to why he’s wired like that, though – he still turned a potential disaster play into a plus play. Someone with that mental ability combined with his obvious physical ability is special. I can’t wait for Thursday…
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Didn't know that
Guess I look a little stupider, then.
Still, doesn’t sound like you’d want to touch it back, unless you HAD to.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Lots of games played in windy conditions in the CFL. Giving up a point on a KO into the end zone, playing into the wind, is often the best decision. As for fumbling the KO in the end zone, might not be a bad idea to sit on it but I’m old-fashioned. The kid is amazing.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman
Somebody clear this up for me: with Redman cut, what are the odds we’ll see him on the PS? How long does it take to clear waivers and re-sign on the PS? Like after the deadline tomorrow? Crap I REALLY wanted to see him instead of Tank! Does anyone else think that’s nonsense that Tank stays while Redman walks??
The odds? None to speak of. If he’s not claimed, he’s on the squad. And we needed a FB with Carey Davis leaving, which was liekly the only reason Summers (and Johnson, for that matter) stayed.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
But how?
How does one get on the Practice Squad?? Do you have to clear waivers until all the teams have finalized their rosters?
by sylvansteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
cuts and practice squad
Once you are cut any team can sign you to their active roster which means they have to cut someone else otherwise the Steelers will sign them to the practice squad if they want them
That is right
Plus if you get the ball out say on the 4 yard line, it’s placed on the 20 automatically…
They'll get him on PS
I’m pretty sure that happens every year around the league, preseason rushing titles are no guarantee to make a squad
Hope so
Otherwise, the Steeler defense will be facing this pinball-of-a-guy when some team that we hate picks him up.
Ha.
I was watching the game with my old man last night, and that’s basically what he said. Actually, it was something more like “If they cut him, the Browns or someone will pick him up and he’ll kill us”.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Steelers Run D
Does not often get killed by anyone.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Chill out
It’s not like he’s a pro bowler or anything.
by worldtrip on Sep 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you are indeed a trip
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be though
Fast Willie was UFA. Is Redman the next legendary Steeler RB? I like him over Mendenhall.
by sylvansteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Mendenhall's a keeper
Redman has intangibles (like nobody can tackle the guy). But I’m glad we have Mendenhall; he looks like a winner. It’s just a shame that we couldn’t have kept Redman too.
I must disagree
I’m not glad we have Mendenhall, I’m glad we have Parker. The injury questions that both of them have, concern me with the Redman cut.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm surprised
I guess Raitliff for insurance and Bailey for ST over Harris and Redmen.
Tank wasn’t battling Redman. He beat out Carey Davis. Logan knocked Redman off.
That I can live with
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing
that the Steelers are positioning themselves to get a LT via trade. Listening to Tomlin’s presser, he’s working something for sure. Not sure who it would be but he doesn’t like the line and since we’re holding out final list I think something is brewing.
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
I heard some rumor about Tony Pashos about to get cut.
Maybe we plan on going for him
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Left Tackle?
You talking starter or depth? Mad Max is our starter. Neither Stapler or Colon is a Left Tackle.
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Depth
So we’re still got Hills AND Parquet at tackle. With Foster and Essex able to play there, too. Seems like a lot, no?
And I’m guessing we kept Bailey AND Arnold Harrison b/c of the Timmons and Fox injuries. For now.
Fox is hurt?
Didn’t hear that, what happened to him?
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean Donovan Woods?
I haven’t seen any injury report on Fox.
My heros have always been Steelers...
Correction: Sonny Harris on squad ...
because I’m going to will that to happen through mind-control before Tomlin officially announces final cuts tomorrow. Will anyone else join me?
Tomlin will hypnotize you with his blank reptilian eyes and take the win on that one!
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman, I'm still surprised
I know he was only a UFA but he showed such promise in a huge area of need. Ithe irony is, he’s showed so much more ability the Mendy but of course, we have to give RM more time to “develop” b/c he was a 1st round pick
Redman will play in the NFL
I’m sure some other teams will give him a chance; and you know what this guy does when he gets a chance!
yeah
I saw him gasping for breath
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and asking Tomlin
to get him out of the game.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What can you tell me
as a frog?
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta get me some of them frogs
I bet they eat quarterbacks for lunch
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I did
Back in the day I used to get them on a regular basis from my OLB position. I’d always JUMP the count!
That was me
and no .. .. .. but I’ll take the guy who doesn’t get winded over the guy who does. Now, winded can be overcome. I like the kid for the PS for now if possible. If FWP hits the dusty trail next year, Mendy, MeMo, Summers and Redman sounds awful nice to me.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
No, never said that
You need to read before you insult. I like Redman as much as the next guy. But when you’re trying to make a squad, you don’t advertise your poor conditioning to your coach, you suck it up!
Remember last year when
Tomlin ran Mendie 7 or something straight in preseason because he fumbled? Had Mendenhall asked to come out because he was tired, Tomlin would have blown a gasket. If Redman asked to come out because he was tired, Tomlin would have realized that his conditioning wasn’t NFL ready. If he clears (and I think he will) he’ll have another year, and I guarantee there will be no questions about Redman’s conditioning next year.
Draftees – especially UFAs – often believe they’re in great condition when they get to camp. They may be in the best condition of their lives, but still not NFL ready.
My heros have always been Steelers...
Easy
He likes Redman and thinks he should make the team. You made fun of Redman.
So clearly you don’t know football players because you don’t feel the same way as he does.
Gol!!!
i leave over the weekend
and i see i missed you pointing out the obvious to people :)
Ima hitch onto your wave :)
ODDS
I’d say 90% chance both Sonny and Redmen are picked up elsewhere.
I want some of that action! I’d say it’s even money we keep both on the practice roster.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be Redman gets taken
After last nights epic run…
Shoot a lot of our RB castoffs in the preseason went elsewhere. Noah Herron is a recent example. Had a couple good games. Didnt really stick though.
I personally think the team knows what it is doing. By releasing carey davis they have given me the best present of the off season.
Mendenhall
He’s also three years YOUNGER than Redmen, FWIW.
McLendon
Maybe he made the squad! Although seriously, I think the fact that they have two young DEs they like (aside from Ziggy of course) made them think they that at least one of them will end up on the PS and that’s enough for development’s sake…
I liked McClendon
Comes from a very good program at Troy and is a good athlete. Both he and Harris would be great on the PR, basically replacing Reffert and Paxson as developmental players with much more upside.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree!
If we get them both we’ll be loaded next year once they have a better understanding of the position. Talk about getting young in a hurry on the Dline!
Not many teams want to
keep UFAs or high-round picks cut from another team on the 53 man roster.
My heros have always been Steelers...
Good point
Is that part of the rule? The pickup would have to be on the active roster?
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Then there is hope.
I think when it all shakes out, our PS will be able to kick any other PS squads ass.
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by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Issac Redman
This is just my personal opinion, Issac Redman is the RB that we need to complete the ground attack. Mendenhall is not physical enough and really has not any signs of brutal running that’s needing. Issac is natural, his natural ability you can not teach. Stevie can see that. (LOL) While Im not sure if he has been cut, but who ever is making the decissions will be making a BIG MISTAKE by releasing him believe me. Im a Steeler for life, but it would be a shame that all eyes witness something special with all the potential of being great………. walk. Steeler NATION
I would like to share your opinion.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
IM SAD IM ACTUALLY FRICKIN SAD
REDMAN…. i dont like to say it , but Redman made up for the mendenhall mis take. Issac redman ran the way I feel when i watch the games. he run like a stiller. mendenhall runs like a scred bonus baby. I hope redman succeeds with another team. boy im pisd. Hope we can prctice squad the kid? Did i mention that this truly saddens me…GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR………..
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
he won't be on anyones practice squad
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Sux
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I think we made a mistake. 6ft 230 lb Hungry Mistake. Mendenhall u better get angy n prove something ya skirt
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
Carey Davis and other things
Let’s quit hating Carey. He played good special teams and made a huge play in super bowl. He wasn’t much of a blocker though. David Johnson is a far superior blocker.
If we add Burnett, Logan, David Johnson, Lewis, Wallace, Summers, Urbik, Ramon Foster, and Mundy, and Hood, that is nice transitioning!
by steeelfann on Sep 4, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
With Carey Davis off the roster I feel much better toward him. Carey Davis worked his tail off and did everything asked of him at the highest level he could, and he did help us win the Super Bowl.
I’m very glad to see someone beat him out though. He wasn’t the best fullback, and Summers is a better one.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 4, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
He really hurt us when he had the ball. Just had no explosiveness and when we threw those flats out to him, we never got anywhere. And wasnt the best lead blocker.
But he never caused us any problems so I cant complain. I dont hate the guy. I just personally didnt find his playing abilities to be a good fit. I think Tank can definitely improve that position.
by Mechem on Sep 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ice
ok u really need to step off. I mean… wtf here, U want tank or mendy carrying the ball If FWP takes a dive? then our SB hopes will be “chilled out” Im angry leave me be
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ESPN Insider
says Cleveland needs help in the backfield… how much would it suck if Redman ended up there?
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
it would really suck for him
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleveland had 2 rookies average 6 yards a carry in the preseason
They’re going to keep James Davis and Chris Jennings over someone else’s undrafted free agents.
Not sure if the people upset about Redman watched any other teams play in the preseason but there are a lot of backs that looked great (like Redman did) who will either be cut, or be good enough to keep their team from looking at our cuts.
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the real risk with him
Is if he thinks he’ll have a hard time making the team here next year and will sign on someone else’s practice squad instead of ours.
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If Redman is on the practice squad ...
he will know he’s one injury away from being on the active roster. Even if Summers is on the 53-man (which I don’t think he will be a week from now), Redman would get the call in a game requiring a third running back. The other factor is that FWP might be in his last year. Redman has a future in the league and it’s more likely to be with the Steelers than any other team.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
It would. at least the browns would have someone who runs w heart.
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Is this thread just about Redman?
I like the guy, but you guys are going nuts! Let’s wait and see. We might just have him on our PS before it’s all over. And what’s wrong with MeMo if FWP goes down? He did just fine last year…
point taken
I’m also happy that Carey Davis spot has been opened up. I didn’t pay attention to D. Johnson so much but if we keep him instead of McHugh, I hope he performs just as well.
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
no one is upset that we have MeMo
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No but nobody seems to remember he exists lol
I would personally consider Waltzing Mewelde the starter if FWP went down, while using Mendy as a 1-2 punch. Memo’s style matches parkers more closely.
And Mewelde tore it up every time he had the rock last year. So personally, I can live without redman. I think Tank at FB will help Mendy and FWP immensely.
by Mechem on Sep 4, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Willy had the holes in the line Redman did, he’d have torn up too. I’m expecting some of our new O-linemen to be starters by year’s end, they seem to communicate and see the defense better.
And what was up with the DT walking straight in and hitting Mendy? I’d like to see some of the back up line, Summers and Johnson with Mendenhall, I think he’d do a lot better.
How the Heck?!
Do you cut Issac Frickin Redman? How
? dont gimme that special teams run around either…
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You should post more comments about it.
by worldtrip on Sep 4, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you setting me up for a race?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Redman would be fourth on the depth chart. Fourth. Anyone who’s fourth on a chart for one position better play Special teams or have a ton of Position Flexibility.
Mewelde Moore plays special teams, is our third down back, picks up blitzes well, can return kicks if needed, and has multiple 100 yard rushing games in this league. Redman wouldn’t see the field without serious injuries at RB, and if he makes the PS that’s exactly where he will be.
Bad personnel decisions can really hurt
Like when the Steelers drafted Gabe Rivera instead of Dan Marino. So instead of the Marino era in Pittsburgh, we had the Malone era.
That is completelly biased, because with that in mind We have to take O.J. Simpson RB or George Kunz OT or Leroy Keyes RB in 1969
Instead of “Mean” Joe Greene and We still have been worst in this era than Cleveland, Buffalo or Detroit, and by the way “by that time the crystall ball was Broken and We could´t find the brave who can fix it.” Remember in those years no one was as dominant in the field than “Mean” Joe.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
hehe
true, had him right up there with Franco and the Bus. :)
Lolley has gathered 20 of the 22 names of cut players together. He also thinks there is probably a trade or two in the works that could put one or two of these guys back into the active squad.
by BluegrassSteeler on Sep 4, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
I asked
if there was anymore to the rumor of the Steelers trading for a LT or Hampton… to the local folks???? I live in Dallas…sucks, I know.
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
OK
You guys are just off the hook! Redman was an undrafted free agent out of Bowie State! Not a first rounder with hall of fame potential!
by Steelfrog on Sep 4, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I need to take a breath!
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Sep 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I chew Copenhagen
I started chewin Redman during games. I love Mewelde. And why does eveybody on here tell other people what to do. blow me THIS is MY issac redman thread ok lol
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LOL I GOT IT
I say we creat a Petition!!! n steel frog..what about mendenfumble? hes a First rounder….n hes a skirt
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My point exactly
Harrison was cut four times, worked on his game and became a stud for us. The game isn’t over for Redman by a long shot…
33
sill in shock. 6ft 230 lb Hungry mistake. sigh … im done.
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Id say more worldtrip
but that …B BeLOW ME
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice rant steel, all the way to the top and beyond. Loved it.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Logan already has
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d consider Logan a street free agent after being cut by the Giants and Dolphins in other years but it probably amounts to the same thing. Logan was not draft eligible this year.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all pleased w/ the Madison cut
That guy was everywhere on special teams. Even when he didn’t make the tackle, he’d affect the quality of the return in a positive way for his teammates. And what about the one-handed interception in the ’Skins game?
by steelcurtain1 on Sep 4, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1,000
I always liked him. 1,000,000 dollar salary did not help him at all.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats a tough one
But again when you have to cut a guy that good, it means our 2ndary is in good shape.
Agree but
Means they really like Joe Burnett. Makes sense. His problems in the preseason have been mental not physical. If they can coach him up he has really nice upside at both corner and st. Madison was just a st guy. Post flexibility baby
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 4, 2009 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Plus his real problems were with fielding KR's
And now we know he wont have to do that anymore thanks to Mr. Logan.
On the plus side, I’m happy they are keeping Ratliff because I always liked him even before he got here. I think hes gonna be a sleeper.
Our secondary doesnt look like it took much of a hit since B-mac dipped out.
Definitely
I think we got better… Ratliff is a good pick-up and he can play Safety and corner. My only real worry is what happens if either Troy or Clark go down for a long time. I think we see a pretty big drop-off from those guys to any of the second tier guys at safety.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Troy yes, Clark less so
I mean when troys out the whole defense looks flatter.
Clark lays the wood better than anybody, and I love him to death out there. But we could survive with Mundy or Carter working it up there for a couple.
Troy keeps himself in great shape and should really only have a problem if he does something ridiculous such as leap over a pile and have a head on collision. Which now that I type that, seems highly possible.
Redman
Steelfrog…………..You are not understanding. My point is to be able to chew up yards regardless of a 2nd or 3rd string defense with less than great blocking take natural talent and pure RB ability. It not a easy task by no means.
I am understanding
Just not panicking. Redman will probably be on the PS. Let’s just wait and see before we go apeshit, OK?
Redman
Had a really nice preseason. If he was not competing against FWP,Mendy and M&M he would have made the squad. Summers is a fullback which they really need. Who exactly do you cut out of those guys for an UDFA who had a nice camp?
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shockers
Redman, Madison, Woods, C. Davis, all were guys who I thought would make the team. Davis purely on being a coaches favorite; glad to see that Tomlin doesn’t roll like that. Looks like David Johnson and Summers make it! Two guys I’ve been rooting for will most likely take over at the FB position. Haven’t heard anything about either being cut. Redman did have a shady past. I can’t remember if it was on ESPN or google, but a recent article revealed that he pleaded guilty to sexual assault in High School, and got off with 3 years probation. That can’t have helped him, but I’m real surprised he didn’t make the team, especially with the release of Carey Davis. Woods and Madison were gamers, sad to see them go.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Not to mention
That Redman ran over about 20 guys during the exhibition games. Not good enough I guess.
I was surprised about Woods. Going into the Carolina gae I thought he was close to a lock, especially with Timmons having a minor injury.
I was surprised that they cut both Davis and Madison because that really does weaken the coverage unit, although D Johnson and Keenan Lewis may be able to step up and fill the void.
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Among other cuts were former Penn State defensive tackle Scott Paxson and inside linebacker Donovan Woods, both of whom spent time on the 53-man roster last season.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09247/995619-100.stm#ixzz0QB8anfTu
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
woods was injured recently though right?
I think if he tweaked something then he kinda shot himself in the foot there.
Davis I have never been happier to see go. Biggest waste of an offensive player. Good on ST, but we can replace him with Summers.
Woods is a big surprise
Never though it happens
could be...
…that he’s waived/injured and he shows up on IR in a couple of days
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
trades are still an option
so I think we should trade Mendy…and keep Redman!!
Of course, this won’t happen, we’’ll have to let the sorry a** RM play out his rookie contract before the coaches admit he’s been a disappointment. The problem is, he’s taken up a valuable roster spot…I’m not bitter or anything..
I don't think there wuld be much of a trade market for him
Any team we talk to is going to wonder why we’re trying to get rid of a first round pick after his first year when he sat the whole year out.
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol @ the people saying trade
Nobody here clearly understands the concept of buy low sell high. You sell when you have a surplus with a player.
Mendenhall would get us jack crap. Lets see, he has like 40 regular season yards to his name, a season ending injury, a pile of preseason fumbles, and thats it.
Oh I can just see the line to get him now.
Shaun Mcdonald
Hope we keep him. plays tuff. like 33. ..Oh… Am I allowd to say I like Shaun Mcdonald, I dont know the rules of the msg board. Is there a shaun Mcdonald thread or website? WHYS EVERYONE HERE KEEP TALKIN BOUT REDMAN!? give it a break, well just ride mendenfumble cuz hes a BONUS baby and runs like a skirt.
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
It's as simple as this for me
I trust the Steelers coaches and front office personnel decisions implicitly.
Agreed
thank you for posting something that makes sense.
If there was a steeler currency, it would read “In Rooney We Trust” and personally thats all there is to it.
They could hire my dad and I would believe he would be a great player.
There is
At Giant Eagle you can get Black and Gold bucks for buying select items. You can use the Black and Gold bucks at any Steelers Sideline stores or on Steelers.com/store.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Sep 5, 2009 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions
SO DO I
SO DO I. but Troy Edwards Happens!!!
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I dnt thnk u knw the maening of STFU
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Calm down man...
I think you’re overreacting a little bit here.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Sep 4, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
HERES my point
I thought the thread was titled 53 man roster cuts or something. Im here to express my Steelerness. Everytime I do some HIGH AUTHORITY like youself just sits here and tell people how to act n what to say on the Board. Maybe I dont Always post under the right thread or what ever, ya know what I DONT CARE I LOVE the steelers so YOU can take ur thesaurus and your Troy edwards Jersey n go eat a Ham sandwhich!! got it bub? Now…where was I about Issac redman …..
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Shall I not write that on your coveted msg board sir?
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you made your point know
You think Redman should have been kept on the roster. Then you made your point again, And again. And again. And again. Ad nauseum. Mostly in really over the top, annoying, and obnoxious ways.
That was my point.
Good
Thats what I wanted to do. Thats why Im here. do you put mustard on your ham sandwhich? if so thats good too. Have a nice day
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No matter how many times you say the Redman cut was bad it won’t get him back on the roster. And honestly every other team in the league has people that are good and they want on their roster. Redman will likely be on out PS. The person who led the pre-season in rushing yards last year didn’t make his team either.
OOHHHH
…. I didnt know that. . .
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
steelchamp is cool
He’s kind of like a Buddhist monk attempting self-immolation with a glow stick and pretending he’s upset it’s not working.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda think anybody who has two exclamation points in their name on here might lean a bit towards the side of over……something. Not sure what word I want to use.
I’m not sure what word you wanted to use either but for some reason I started thinking about the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I am Cool !! !! lol
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You sure are steel … and I like the fact you used perenialness in your signature instead of perineumness.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That really
“taint” fair of you, .lifer.
I’m not sure SC understands…..
lol … I give him the benefit of the doubt. And if he doesn’t, I’m sure someone will explain that it taint this and it taint that.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Im confused
whos our head coach?
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You can't please all of the people, or something like that........
No matter what player gets cut, someone would be upset. Our roster is only 53 players, and that’s it. Returning 20 of 22 starters and basically resigning most of the players who had their contract expiring left little room for the new guys. To be honest, I am a little shocked so many draft choices made it.
They probably did not announce their cuts today for a reason. Maybe a trade or two will work itself out and Redman and Harris might be added to the squad. If not, I doubt both of them will find their way to another team; however, if I were a betting man I would venture to say it would be easier for Redman than it would be for Harris.
Anyway, we have the same O and the same D as last year, with a vast upgrade to our special teams with Sepulveda back and the addition of Logan. All in all I think there is much to look forward too!
GO STEELERS!
Greg Warren
Every year, one roster spot is taken up by someone who does nothing other than long snapping. Seriously? Is it is that hard to find another lineman, or someone from another position, who can long snap? I guess it must be, but it still bothers me deeply. I understand that he’s also a backup defensive lineman, but we have other guys at that position for the purposes of depth. Warren will never see the field as a defensive lineman. I don’t get it. Then again, I suppose there is a reason that I’m not running a football team. Oh well.
Actually it must be difficult
Because I dont know if you remember, but Greg Warren blew a knee last year.
And when that happened, dont you think our team pursued all available options for a LS?
And they called a dude WHO MOVED FURNITURE for a living. That tells you its clearly not a talent everybody can just pull out of their ass. Ask Silverback.
Trust the FO, for they are the light.
no they are the light
The light that guides us down the path of glory!
Let us not forget… We won the GD super bowl last year. I’m sure everything will be a-o-k
Thats..
Steelerness!!
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
If you could
who would you trade? The only one I can think of is MeMo on offense unless we “kept” McDonald on offense. Only because he’s the only one with value that we can replace with Redman. Can’t think of anybody on defense really… not much value for Eason or Kirshke and I like Hoke.
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
dammit con you beat me to it with that sig
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy this!!
Tight asses. 4 real
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
4
Rizzzz
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It only took you four minutes of Madden before Troy Edwards dropped a pass and Redman said he was too tired to play?
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Thats funny. Hey Worltip is the Troy edwards fan (lol ham sandwich) I didnt know redman got tired, just enjoyd watchn him run. Hope he makes the PS
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
: )
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad About Harris. Okay with the Redman Cut.
I liked Harris. He seemed like a good investment. It’s a shame to lose him.
Regarding Redman, I never saw anything that exceptional in his play. Last night, his run for the touchdown was only possible because of three badly missed tackles. It wouldn’t have happened in the regular season. The whole time I was watching Redman, I thought that he looked better than most of the scrubs, but not fantastic.
I am also glad that we kept Burnett. He made some stupid mistakes during the preseason, but he also showed some skills. I look forward to watching him develop.
Bruce Davis reported out
NFL.com just had an update right now. Saying that they are trying to keep it on the DL to try and move Redman to the PS.
And they listed Bruce Davis in with the assumed Cuts.
were not allowd to comment on that.
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
im gna go play maddens (steelchamps ps3 handle anyone?) maybe ill create Issac redman and put him in! lol troy edwards too ; )
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My Bad
Just got back. Fox wasn’t hurt. I meant Woods. Maybe they kept Bailey AND Arnold Harrison until they’re comfortable Woods and Timmons can play. Sorry bout that.
They haven't announced any cuts officially
NFL.com story says they are waiting to officially announce until tommorow.
Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile - Albert Einstein.
Made the team I believe
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'mr real happy we haven't heard any news
of David Johnson being cut. I think he may have really found a nice gem in the 7th round. The man’s a monster blocker w/the ability to play Special teams, and could be a devastating H-Back. Those goal line sets may feature Summers and DJ as blockers, so IMO you may, may being the key word there, but may not even need a big back to pound the rock in w/those two and Miller leading the way.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
yeah I am surprised they are keeping Tank after not seeing much of him this preseason, If the rumors are true of Redman going does that mean Tank is the goal line back?
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Tank is why Redman had those holes to run through, he’s gonna be clearing the way for Mendy now.
Hopefully that works out well.
Im still here
n i hope mendy doesnt trip over his skirt
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by Steelchamps !! on Sep 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so, I keep watching the highlight reels of Mendy from Illinois and wonder when he is going to hit his stride, hopefully soon
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
Summers was the unsung hero. Redman got the stats, but nearly every time Redman was scoring down by the goal line, Tank was leading the way and busting lanes open for him.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I am overseas so I couldn;‘t see any of the games, they kept broadcasting the Vikings games on AFN, I wish I coulda seen the Logan return, it seems we have found our own Sproles, and cant’ wait to see Tank play next Thursday, I think that is my next jersey
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
U can see it in nfl.com videos Steelers
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
I'm sure he'll get his chances
But I think the reason Tank seems to have made it over Davis and Redman is because of his versatility. The guy can line up at FB, RB, Special teams both Blocking and in coverage, and he’s willing to do it all. I think they see a lot of potential in him, more so than Redman, who they probably saw as a one-trick pony. Also keep in mind that Summers has also flashed the ability to catch the ball as well.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, watching Tank Youtube clips right now, I know that was in college, but damn
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
in a rare Davis defense sighting
Davis could line up at FB, RB, and special teams. He wasn’t great at anything but he wasn’t really bad at anything.
Jack of all trades and a master of none
by WVPiratesfan on Sep 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a fair way to say it.
Im just saying Tank wasn’t chosen over Davis because of his versatility. Davis happened to be one of the most versatile men on the team.
Tanks versatility allowed him to beat Davis, if he wasn’t so good at ST and picking up blitzes Carey Davis would still be here.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 5, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m definitely a David Johnson homer. (Did I state that correctly? What does that even mean?")
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
+1
One of my favorite moments at training camp was when Johnson stood Deebo up in a drill and then proceeded to point out that Harrison wasn’t the only man on the team that lifted weights. That’s exactly the attitude I want from a hybrid TE/Full Back. Between him and Tank, we can hope to see much bigger lanes for the fast guys to run through, and a bit more time for Ben to throw. No offense to the crazy guy who keeps posting about Redman and hating on Mendy, but if the holes are there Mendy is going to be a much better back than Redman. If the holes aren’t there then I give to Redman who is more of bruiser and has shown the capability to fight for a couple of yards against second team guys.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He Blocked Harrison???
I never knew that. OMG, put him at Tackle, he’s an unstoppable force of Nature!
by Phantaskippy on Sep 5, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Just gonna trust the front office on these cuts, the real problem for the players cut will be walking into Tomlin’s office and hearing one final Tomlinism before they are released: “You have been great for this team but it is what it is”
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
I see him on WPXI with Peggy Finagan.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Sep 5, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions
some times it is what it isn’t"...
.
with these possible trades developing, that may be true.
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
Highly interested on seeing who it is, maybe getting rid of extra position players for draft picks?
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It'd would beyond incredible if we dealt a couple backups
For a 7th rounder. Yea, even a 7th rounder would make me happy. Then maybe we pull Redman or Madison, Woods or another up.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 4, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Colbert
Is not one of the best GM’s in football for nothing…maybe create some cap space for resigning Clark or one of the others
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Colbert
Ever notice how much Colbert is starting to look like Brian Billick.
lmao
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Tomlin was a hypnotist in another life
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
“sure this 86 Pinto is a little run down and the air conditioning sometimes works, but it is what it is”..
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
When you drive this 87’ rusted jeep, you dont drive by 6 rushing titles, you drive by 6 Lombardi trophy’s.
again it what it is
and its an ugly shade of lime green
by WVPiratesfan on Sep 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
yall have to see this
http://peopleofwalmart.com/?paged=4 is this any of yallins (that was blantant West Virginia)
disturbing!:) The goat picture and caption is funny though…
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 4, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
serious time
we should sign Keilen Dykes as a DT of the future he is a free agent if we have room or sign to the PS
What does the release of Sonny harris tell us bout Big snack?
This had me thinking a little. Because I liked what I saw from Harris and I was thinking he had a chance to take over the Big Snack role down the line…
I do wonder where he ends up. I really see somebody pulling a Dan Snyder and overpaying for a 32 year old big man. I know our team is smart enough not to do this. But I would have liked to see a project in the works this year.
would be nice to have a project in the works
but I don’t think Sonny Harris is it. He looks far more suited to the 3-4DE position. Probably more the backup type in the long term but you never know. He’s definitely outperformed expectation. It would seem Ziggy is the heir apparent to Aaron Smith but Harris could perhaps replace Kiesel down the line, more likely, if he sticks on the PS he could replace Travis Kirschke. But I don’t think anyone on our roster other than Chris Hoke is a Hampton replacement. I think we’re going to have to look long and early at NT in the draft next year.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
re Kirschke,
Lolley is mentioning one of the reasons they’re waiting til tomorrow to cut anyone officially is the possibility that they’re seeking a trade for Kirschke or Eason. If that were to happen Harris would probably stay on the roster, though they may have informed him he will be cut if that doesn’t happen so he can get his agent to call round and get him a roster spot somewhere, he already looks better than Ryan McBean did for us and, well, McBean is starting in Denver! I tell you, I’m glad they’re on our schedule this year!
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I read that too
But it doesn’t make that much sense to me. If they had a trade in the works they would not have cut Harris only to resign him once it’s done. I know it’s not official, but Bouchette’s sources were the players themselves saying they’ve been cut. Now why do that if you plan to create space for a player. IMO they would just wait till the last minute to see if they can secure the deal so that they don’t have to cut the guy. While Kirschke could get traded (he is, after all, way better than Sean Mahan who was in the same situation last year) I would think they would try to use his spot to get an OT and hope to keep the two young DE hopefuls on the PS just in case. Big ifs…
possibly
just so the players can get their agents on the phones trying to drum up some waiver interest for them a day early.
There was some chatter here yesterday about Tony Pashos being released or possibly available in a trade too. So you could be right on that score. Be interesting to see if Harris clears waivers…
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Nose Tackles don't grown on Trees
And there are many more people picking them these days. So its a good question about the Steelers future plans at the position. Big Snack has held down the fort admirably during his entire time in Pittsburgh, but when he went down Chris Hoke filled in great. Still I have to imagine that the Steelers are already scheming on the possibility of replacing Snack if the asking price is too high, or franchising him for a year and picking nose tackle high.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
scoured the web, got the roster down to 54
QB Roethlisberger, Dixon, Batch
RB Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Logan, Summers
TE/FB Miller, Spaeth, Johnson, McHugh
WR Ward, Holmes, McDonald, Sweed, Wallace
LT Starks, Hills
LG Kemoeatu, Urbik
C Hartwig, Legursky
RG Essex
RT Colon, Foster
LE Smith, Kirschke
DT Hampton, Hoke
RE Keisel, Hood, Eason
LOLB Woodley, Bailey, Frazier
MLB Farrior, Timmons, Fox
ROLB J.Harrison, A.Harrison
CB Taylor, Gay, Ratliff, K.Lewis, Burnett, Townsend
FS Clark, Mundy
SS Polamalu, Carter
K Reed
P Sepulveda
LS Warren
The only move is see being made tomorrow is probably going to be putting McHugh on IR.
Gah, Eason over Harris, that irritates me.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 5, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Any guesses at the Practice Squad?
Reilly, Grisham, Harris (or McClendon if that trade for KirschkEason comes off), Redman, Shipley, Czech possibly as Reed is a free agent next year?, Woods I think is still eligible,
who else is eligible? Dallas Baker? I don’t think Parquet or Capizzi are anymore… I don’t think Bruce Davis is either. Anthony Madison may be
Provided that everyone clears waivers…Harris, Grisham, McClendon, Redman, Shipley, maybe one of the LB’s like Korte or Sanchez as well. Roy Lewis certainly.
by BluegrassSteeler on Sep 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
Lions fan here
read a rumor that Casey Hampton may be cut. What is the likelihood of that happening?
The waiver wire/road to FA goes through Detroit
Likelihood? Extraordinarily slim to none.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Agreed
Except I am not sure you are allowed to use the word slim when speaking of anything even remotely related to Casey Hampton.
I would instead say the chances that Hampton will get cut are smaller than the chances the Lions will win the super bowl this year.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
if the salad had a whole ham in it maybe
by WVPiratesfan on Sep 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the rumour
was just that. Some newbie hack on NFL Network rehashing a story from before training camp where they discussed Casey Hampton as a possible salary cap cut or trade bait I think?
It was never very likely as soon as he showed up to camp in good shape (for him). I doubt he’s a Steeler in 2010 but he’ll play out his contract here.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
BURNETT!!!
I was most worried they’d keep Madison over him. Burnett is a young ball-hawking corner and those don’t grow on trees. To find one in the fifth rd is exceptional. Won’t be a starter till year 3 most likely but with great coaching (Tomlin is a DB mastermind) he’ll develop nicely. Madison is a st ace but the steelers will be able to forget about corner in the draft for a year or two and focus on the o-line/safety/nt.
by SteelMillSteeler on Sep 4, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
Santonio Holmes's
Oh wait, wrong kinda trees.. .hehe.
GMSteel, great job putting list together
Quick thoughts:
- I am surprised that Donovan Woods got cut, but that makes me think that his hamstring is going to have him out several seeks. With Timmons already down, I don’t think they could carry another backup LB who couldn’t help on special teams beginning Thursday.
- I think Redman is safe going to the practice squad. There are going to be good veteran RBs out there available this weekend for cheap. Every year, we go through this and the player usually ends up on the practice squad (Gary Russell was last year’s case). Remember, this is a guy that 31 other teams didn’t even offer a rookie free agent contract to. And if they picked him up, they would want him to play special teams just like we do. If he did that better, he’d be on this team.
- I do hope a trade or roster spot can be freed up to keep Sonny Harris. Tomlin says he wants to get bigger, younger on the DL and one falls into his sleep in the 6th round. With both Kirschke and Eason in their final years, I don’t think having their play for a year is worth losing Harris’ potential to play now and development down the road. I’m an optimist so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
- With that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if S. Harris, Redman, McClendon, D. Woods, A.Q. Shipley, R. Lewis, J. Capizzi all end up on the practice squad.
- If a trade doesn’t happen, then I think the final move could be putting McHugh on the IR to get to 53.
How would you feel about having GMSteel’s final 53 as your 2009 Steelers squad?
not sure Capizzi can go on the PS
I think he’s had his 3 years on the Practice Squad already… it could be bagging groceries for him waiting for a phone call!
Eason’s not in his final years either, I think he may be our second youngest DL guy if Harris is cut!
Re GMSTeel’s roster. I think it looks very strong and pretty deep in most spots. OL is obviously a major question mark with, I think none of the backups having played a down in an actual NFL game? But Foster and Legursky don’t appear to be much of a drop off from the starters.
Give me David Johnson, silly penalties but I like his fire and they way he plays the game. McHugh to IR, maybe bring him back next year if Johnson can improve his pass catching and Spaeth is out of contract.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you’re not talking about the horse-collar call, because that was clearly a bad call when we saw it on replay. Can’t blame the guy for grabbing some jersey…
he gave away a couple of others too
I think a false start (which Tomlin hates!) and I forget the other one. The horse collar one was a poor call but he still gave away a couple of others.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
if he can cut them out of his game, for sure
but prior to the Carolina game I think he’d all but won a roster spot. With it looking like they’re keeping Summers as a lead blocking and ST type they may be re-evaluating McHugh’s injury in light of the penalties on Johnson. Maybe drop Johnson to the PS? Tough to say but it appears that’s the final cut, one of McHugh or Johnson.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Would make sense
But there’s Ratliff, Eason and possibly Kirschke that could be let go as well. Arians may like the idea of a goaline set with Miller and McHugh at TE, Johnson at HB and Tank at FB. Those are genuine blockers, no Davis or Spaeth in that bunch…
+1
Doesn’t matter who is back there if Spaeth and Carey Davis are the lead blockers…. this looks like a serious upgrade in our blocking.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Johnson has also been good on a lot of special teams. Between his blocking and special teams I think he has to be on the game-day roster. The problem is that the Steelers need to keep 4 TE around because they use all three at times on offense. Last year they kept Sherrod around on the practice roster. McHugh can’t be on the practice roster so that limits their options. The other possibility is that when McHugh is healthy, they will add him to the game day roster and keep Summers inactive. Four tight ends (two of whom can block out of the backfield) and no FB. That’s where I think they are headed.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
McHugh to IR
Can’t come back at all this season. Perhaps you posted this before that was announced.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Zactly so
I see they signed Sherrod to the PR to keep that fourth TE available. They will keep their eyes open for another young TE prospect with H-back and blocking potential.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 6, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The false start was bad, he also got called for holding but it was a phantom call IMO. I don’t think the coaches will hold it against him after they look at the tape.
by SteelerFan Ben on Sep 4, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is only me
But I though Johnson had a terrible day against the Bills. He missed blocks, looked confused. The forth down they fail to convert was all Johnson, he missed his block and Redman was hit in the backfill.
Good points Datruth
As usual! I think this is an amazing roster! And our practice squad will rock too!
I’m not sure Capizzi is still eligible for the PS though. And it’s quite possible Woods isn’t either, no? Anyway Woods may just heal for a month and be resigned when somebody else gets hurt. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see that Grisham kid on the PS either, he’s their kind of guy.
hopeful on Grisham
had we been weaker at WR this year he may have been in with a shot. Runs good routes, catches damn near everything thrown his way (couple of sweet catches in there too), a willing blocker and gives it everything.
He’s small but I would like them to persevere with him. He may never be a star but he could wind up a Shaun McDonald kind of guy, or a mini-Hines
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree
And he’s an under-the-radar guy that we can almost certainly keep around the PS safely while he develops.
Grisham might stick
He has done some nice things but do you want to develop a guy whose top end might be as a special teamer or a guy who might someday be a top 4 receiver? I don’t see a very high top end for Grisham. There will be plenty of young receivers looking for work in the next couple weeks. IMO the Steelers will add a new WR to the practice roster after the dust settles a bit. Steelfrog you will recognize these names but in Grisham I see a future CFLer along the lines of Jim Sandusky, Brian Kelly and Ben Cahoon.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Could very well be… Those guys are smart, possession guys needed on the big fields. And you’re right about the market being an influence on this thing. But who knows, really? This kid could end up being a Wayne Chrebet type guy for us as well…
Not sure he is as fast as Chrebet but you never know. Grisham is very smart and a competitor with decent hands. Loves special teams. Guys like that will get looks from a lot of teams.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
also...
I think Woods may still be PS eligible. He made our active 53 at the start of the season but he wound up on IR fairly early (which led to Bailey being promoted off the PS) so I think he could still qualify.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Woods eligible
He had to have played nine games to be ineligible for the practice roster this year. Baker I believe is also still eligible (8 games last year) as might be Capizzi under an exemption to normal PS eligibility.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Capizzi
I think last year he may have been eligible under the exemption. You mean the one about if he’s never been on the active roster but his team have always had 53 men on the roster while he’s been on the PS? This would be Capizzi’s 4th year on the PS and I’m not sure there’s any rule that can get you on for a 4th year?
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
apologies, you're correct
I just posted a FanPost on the Practice Squad rules and who might be eligible. I thought we picked up Capizzi in 2006, but you’re right it was 2007 so he should be eligible again, and I would think a very likely signing if he clears waivers.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
from Wikipedia:
“Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on their “practice squad” in addition to their 53-member main roster. They consist mostly of rookies who were cut in training camps and borderline NFL-caliber players. Both rookies and young veterans are eligible for the practice squad. However, a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club’s 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer that 9 games during their “only Accrued Season(s)”, they maintain their eligibility for the practice squad1."
So I think Woods is Practice Squad eligible as he has not served more than 9 games on the active roster during his only accrued season.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So if....
They don’t hire Redmen, I will…this guy would rip it up at my job…
by kick him in the head on Sep 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
THEY........
probably pay more than me
by kick him in the head on Sep 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
will anyone that the Steelers cut go to the UFL
by WVPiratesfan on Sep 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy on a practice roster for the entire year is going to make more than he would as just a Joe in the UFL so I can’t see too many fringe NFLers going there. Maybe one of the early cuts like Stephen Black would go to the UFL. I really don’t know where the UFL is at with their rosters but I can see them bringing in a few ex-NFLers and then a whole bunch of college grads with no NFL shot. Have to see.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I heard he'll start a cult
He certainly has enough worshippers to get something good going! Have the Redman Lovers pay to shine his shoes or kiss his (high school graduation) ring. And if he’s not too picky I bet he never goes another day without sex as well!
Tomlin with a ginsu=
Carey Davis + 3 spots on the roster
by kick him in the head on Sep 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Steeler checking in
My bad im late
Woods, Redman, Harris? Not happy there
At least we are rid of Davis i suppose….
Also props to Ryan Mundy for upping his game and surviving the cuts. I see a good future from that kid
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
Redman/Woods
These were my most disappointing cuts…..c’est la vie. On Redman, the disappointment is from the fact of last year when we had a difficult time picking up 3rd and 2 or 4th and 1….do you remember that? We have a great defense….what we need to improve on for another superbowl run is the offense, the ability to move the chains, score touchdowns vs. fieldgoals and have better field position and basically just score a few more points. The better field position probably has been taken care of with Logan and Sepulveda…..but who is going to pick up those tough yards that no one has been able to for the last 3 years?
And for all those who say it’s just preseason and he’s a UDFA….all we have to go by is what we see and hear….. whose the only one to score 3 TDs, who scored 3 or 4 times on our 1st team D at Latrobe, who scored bouncing off 4 first team Panthers…..it wasn’t Mendy, Parker, or Mewelde. First post by the way, Steeler fan since 1971 or so…..absolutely love the site and have been reading it for about a year. Love the interaction between generations, states, and countries…..and it’s all good…were all fans here!
on the other side of the coin...
…they’re keeping the guy who was his lead blocker for most of those runs. If he clears waivers I think Redman will be on the roster at some point this season for sure.
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I did notice on a lot of Redman’s runs Tank was the lead blocker so your point is certainly valid…I for one hope he makes it to the PS for insurance. Also glad I’m not Tomlin making these decisions…he is human and I’m sure it’s a difficult task for the him.
And as has been pointed out above...
Johnson should also help in the short yardage battles…
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I just
hate to think about losing him to the bengles and then… having him run all over us…that would be the longest game
by kick him in the head on Sep 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah I'm with you
But despite my post, I think the Steelers overall are in a great position to make the playoffs and compete for another SB. Their special teams may be among the best in the league with Reed, Logan, and Sepulveda…..if we can improve on offense just a little bit….we will be blowing teams away.,
Again, when does anybody ever run all over us?
I mean I dont care who you are, you’re gonna have a hell of a time running all over us. When has LT even gotten 100 yards on our defense? Last I check he was getting hurdled by James Harrison.. hmm.
Im not worried about losing him to somebody else. I’d just like to see if he can contribute here. The last thing I worry about is another team gaining a RB that we castoff.
To be picked up by the Bengals or Browns
He would have to have been arrested or had serious character issues.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news
Arizona cut Oliver Ross! Now we can get him back. Yippie!
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
You're not
But I be he’ll be on the PS soon and a starter next year! If Stapleton and Legursky can do it, so can baby-arms!
I projected we'd keep on the roster
Im a little gutted there.
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Sep 5, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
KiwiSteelerfan, both Eason and Kirschke are in last year of contract
That’s what I meant when I said they were in their last year. Both are only backups. R. Harris could end up being a starter for this D in the future and I think he could play in this D right now. Hoping beyond hope that a trade can be done to keep him.
gotcha!
sorry when people mention final year and Kirschke in the same sentence I assume it’s an age thing ;)
by KiwiSteelerFan on Sep 4, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yo truth
I know you’re suffering with the Harris thing but I think there’s a good chance he makes it to the practice roster. I know there are more teams playing 3-4 but those teams are also trying to keep players they like on their active roster. Are they going to dump a guy they’ve been working with since OTAs and is good enough to make their team now for a seventh-rounder they’ve seen take 50 snaps against camp fodder? Maybe, but at this point I’m optimistic Harris will be practising in black and gold on Monday, trade or no trade.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 4, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
aw man
i know future hall of famers when I sees em and he’s a future hall of famer.
i gotta say though. clearly he’s a fan favorite. he dominated this post. perhaps he’ll contribute down the road. then everybody would be happy.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously though
I respect your opinion….but….do you not remember last year and the extremely hard time we had picking up short yardage? He doesn’t have to be a HOF….just pick up a few tough yards. Defense and special teams are taken care of, O-line and short yardage are our weakness. That’s why I’m a little baffled at all the folks that are blowing off the only guy since Bettis that has shown the potential to pick up the tough yards. Perhaps no one remembers the value of that guy getting 3rd and 2 or 4th and 1 and moving the chains? Anyway, regardless, I still think the Steelers are stacked for the season minus Redman/Woods.
"I still think the Steelers are stacked .. .. ..
minus Redman/Woods." You nailed it right there, CCrider. That’s precisely why I’m not as upset as some of the others. I’m just making a little light of it. It remains to be seen if there is going to be marked improvement short yardage situations. If there isn’t any, or if someone gets dinged up, Steelers can always bring him up from the PS, assuming he clears waivers.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 5, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
They could be really good….were going to see shortly (and I’m a pessimist usually). And if Summers and Johnson can open some holes we may forget all about Redman. Also, I think Mendy may fool some people. I think he just needs some confidence after getting nailed by Lewis last year. I think the first time he busts a 30 yard run your going to see a better running back…..after all he is still a really young dude playing in the NFl.
Remember
that Redman was competing against FWP, Mendy and Moore and to a certain extent Tank. Can you honestly say that you would have cut Mendy, FWP or Moore? I know that people are upset about the way Mendy has preformed so far, but he’s still one of the youngest guys on the team (3 years younger than Redman) and he has a great set of skills that if and when they come together will make him infinitely more valuable than just a short yardage back. Watch him on some of his longer runs – when he hits the hole he has serious burst. FWP and Moore are proven commodities. Tank is a blocker and makes all the other guys better.
So I know you guys all love Redman but who do you cut to put him on the team? Mendy? Moore? Logan? Tank?
Curious whose roster spot people think he should take.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
tank
or keep 5?
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
so if you keep 5
Do you drop Logan? Or Johnson? Maybe Burnett?
Remember all those guys play special teams, something which Redman didn’t seem to do well.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 6, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
dont worry CCrider
there are a few nerds who think there opinions are the beall end all. dont sweat it, write what ya feel. redman was a mistake, at least possibly. tough kid.
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I'll start a separate TJ Duckett post
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 4, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Howmany
people have “Red” in their names…come on now
by kick him in the head on Sep 5, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
Im amazed
7 out of 9 draft picks make team plus
2 FA (Logan, Foster)
9 total young guys… I remember a post around draft time, how not alot of young guys had a chance to make the team…shows how much we don’t know, myself included.
Indeed...
Hey all, first time post after starting to follow the site for a few months and enjoying the enthusiasm and insight.
Now, this point is I believe the most significant development of the preseason. 9 rookies sticking with the team is outstanding and a much needed injection of youth to the roster. Add to that the fact that we’ll most likely be able to keep in the PS at least 2 of the three promising guys who got cut (Redman, Harris and Woods) and you’ve got a very good foundation for the next five years.
I trust Tomlin and the FO know what they’re doing and so far there’s a lot to be excited about, especially our chances for a repeat and lucky number 7!!!
Heaven must be covered in Black & Gold
by Steelers_Fan_to_the_Core on Sep 6, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
For all the talk about redman, how about Davis?
We didnt exactly LOSE anything with Redman. So everybody acts like we lost a huge investment, when in reality, a few weeks ago none of you knew who he was.
The real pain we should be discussing is a 3rd round draft pick amounting to nothing, that being Bruce Davis.
hasn't it been a tradition for us to have dissappointing 3rd round draft picks though?
so really, we aren’t losing anything again
Not exactly how I'd like to look at it
I dont accept mediocrity and prefer not to get comfortable with it.
But I get the point
"I dont accept mediocrity and prefer not to get comfortable with it."
good one mechem, that’s almost tomlin-esque
Redman
That was a DUMM A$$ decision to release I. Redman. Mike is counting on Mendy because that was his pick. Well………Mike your draft picks were WACK, that ‘s the plan truth. Mendy is a B#@th who needs a set of POM-POMS not blocking or go dance with the stars. Issac Redman was not Mike’s pick…… another coach recognize the raw natural talent…….and Mike can not except that…….which makes him an selfish idiot. He really wants to believe that Mendy can run……it’s his pride. The OLine has made holes the size of 295 and Mendy is high stepping through the hole for what ?
(Im referring to the Redskins game) Is he scared to get hit or maybe R. Lewis is on his mine. Please do not get it twisted Im 110% Steeler Nation. But everyone was asking who’s 33 during camp and preseason, Mike heard and recognize the buzz, but was not feeling it. You could tell by the less than whatever comments he would make. Regardless of Redman game performance and practice his willing to take on JH in RB blocking drills, holding his ground. Again Redman was not his discovery……….but if Redman ever get the chance he will make them pay………….. the way James Taylor did continuously. So……………….with that beening said remember Issac Redman in these situation…………goal line, attacking the hole for first down yardage, possesion grinding yardage and brutal tough STEELER FOOTBALL running. REMEBER………..THE TRUTH………..UNOTOO
the way James Taylor did continuously
You do know that he’s seen fire and he’s seen rain. He’s seen sunny days that he thought would never end. He’s seen lonely times when he could not find a friend. But he always thought that he’d see you again.
Unotoo, come down off the roof! I don’t know who the hell his James Taylor is but I hope he knows that post was about him.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Can someone please translate that post to English
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 5, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
unotoo
well w the exception of the James Taylor ref. (lol) you should b aware we are NOT allowd to post about Redman or any other players, or have an opinion, passion, or as i call steelerness..without the express wiritten consent of Nerds inc. you should prob b able to figure out who that comitee is (sp) lol no free thoughts. get in line and love Logan and hope willy dont get hurt and dont worry about those silly goaline STUFFS!!! of mendenhalls skirt
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Again that is very biased, Tomlin also pick Woodley and Sweed to say the least.
Redman had that pinball Td ´cause very defficient tackling.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
Wow, my last comment was intended to come out beneath unotoo. I guess I should have used the reply button. Now I’m an object lesson.
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
lol Con … or maybe the subject of an abject-ive lesson.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
abjective
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Yeah, time to tone down my attitude. Where are those meds?
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
Holy crap, you guys are having a live thread for this?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yeah well since we are the 6 time super bowl champs and we swept all three games from you last year and your quarterback has a unibrow and your linebacker is a murderer………ummmm what were we talking about?
Dude, I was not talking crap to you when I said that. I was just surprised. Fucking relax.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
You just walked into that one.
We’ve been waiting to tee off on somebody.
For a serious question, how long till you pick up Isaac Redman and win the Super Bwol with him scoring 87 TD’s against the Steelers on his way to a hall of fame career?
Na, I doubt we pick him up. Did you guys cut him? I don’t fell like reading through the comments to find out. We are pretty set at RB right now and have 3 guys battling for the 3rd spot.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
MaLor, I bet the RB the Steelers cut is more likely to get into the Hall of Fame than any running back your team cuts
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They dont need him
You guys got LeRon Mc"3Lanes of traffic wide"
That dudes beastly. Plus Ray Rice.
For the love of god though, drop Willis McGahee. Hes just gonna annoy me in fantasy when he shaves a carry or two from Ray rice. Yes I drafted Ray Rice.
Willis is not out of the picture man. I think Ray Rice will be a great player for us this year, but not as good as these experts are making it seem. They are making it seem like Rice is going to get 250-300 carries this year, which he wont. Rice will see about 175 and McGahee will see about 125-160.
McClain won’t be a RB this year and get all those yards, but he will still be a goal line threat. Don’t worry too much though, Rice should easily get 1,000-1,200 yards of rushing and receiving.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
See if you did read through you would see roughly 100 posts lamenting how good Redman is and how guaranteed it is that he’ll sign somewhere else and kill the Steelers. There have also been posts proclaiming him a HoF caliber RB.
Just poking a bit of fun at ourselves, and using you to do it.
Didn’t realize you weren’t reading the thread.
And I appreciate the drafting of Ray Rice. I haven’t told anyone here, but I took Santonio Holmes in 1 of my 3 leagues.
Ewww, I can’t believe I actually did it too.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Hearing that you shot 87 at a 2,700 yard pitch and putt would perk me up.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
MaLor that’s nothing, my ex-wife beat me with one club.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
now
THATS witty.
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't find it so funny
It still hurts me today losing to you guys 3 times, and you know it hurts me. Then the murderer thing, that pisses me off even more.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
The alternative is worse
No one wants every new person to the site making their own roster post and 3 Isaac Redman fandom posts.
by Phantaskippy on Sep 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re welcome here Mr MaLoR. Right now we would welcome some trash talking instead of all the smarminess (my favorite sucky word). Hope you won’t leave.
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
I did not intend to come here and talk trash. You guys are probably the only team I like to keep a constant update on, so I check here regularly to see whats up. Then when someone brings up sweeping us and your 6 rings and Ray is a murderer, it angers me. Just like when I bring up the rape situation, how it angers most here.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Yo MaLor
On another thread the subject was raised that you are actually a steeler fan but afraid to come out of the closet. I still want to know if you are going to come out of that closet wearing hot pants and a halter top or a No. 86 Steeler jersey.
by steeler.lifer on Sep 5, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
steelers official site down?
Has anybody else tried to go to steelers.com (the official nfl.com site) since 4 pm? I’ve tried 5 or 6 times since then and can’t connect. Some other teams have their 53 man rosters up, or a list of all their waived players, so I was hoping the Steelers would too….
of course now it's up
no later do I post and it is up again…..
by touchemalljoe on Sep 5, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
no roster listed on steelers.com though yet
just trying to set a record for most replies to self in same thread :)
by touchemalljoe on Sep 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my opinion. Every year some guy shines in camp and ends up getting the axe. The thing about it is, that there are 32 teams making cuts, and while I am sure every team has scouts watching players from around the league, those teams probably have players that they want to retain as well. While the Steelers may end up losing Redman and Harris and whoever else we think is valuable, our own scout team does a hell of a job finding talent. Let’s all just relax for a moment because there isn’t anything any of us can do about it. Tomlin and his staff have made their decisions and soon enough we will find out whether they were correct or not.
As I’ve seen somewhere in this thread, Redman was undrafted and I think Harris was a 7th round pick? These guys probaby aren’t jumping out at other teams, they might be noticeable to other teams, but you have to take the best 53 guys when the cuts are mandated and hope for the best.
So my stance is, ths staff just won a SB, has 20 of 22 starters coming back. I trust the coaching staff and scouting team.
GO STEELERS!
by Silverback92 on Sep 5, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
put it this way
i’m glad they’re cutting redman if it means that we have good enough RB depth not to have to be keeping undrafted training camp wonders on the squad…
I’m not kidding man, it’s nothing personal, you just walked in when we were looking for someone to pick on.
dont worry malor
they have started to canabilize other steeler fans, including me….with my steelerness for Redman.
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Sep 5, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Improvement
I don’t agree with all of the cuts but there’s no doubt the Steelers will be even better this season. Mainly, Sepulveda and Logan will drastically improve field position. Some people want to write off Mendenhall already, but I think he’ll start contributing this year. Also, Ziggy Hood looks to get a lot of playing time. Barring key injuries, no reason why the Steelers can’t go to another Super Bowl.
GO STEELERS!!
Bye Bye to Redman probably???
Will the Steelers keep Redman and Shipley on the practice squad? I really don’t see anyone picking up Shipley soon so I think he makes the ps, but if Redman isn’t placed on the ps I see someone picking him up real soon. Tomlin may of rolled the dice on this one, or he has an awful lot of faith in his other backs. Let’s all hope that Mendenhall doesn’t get stage fright when Nov. 29th rolls around!
NFL Network
just gave Redman a little pub. For those of us hoping he makes the practice squad that’s not helping. No big cuts this year other than Garcia IMO, everybody is trying to catch up to us. Sweet!
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
Redman
Mike’s hope into Mendy is long shot………maybe his SOFTY A$$ can run better in
HIGH HEELS. List to his nick-name Mendy or should we say Miss Mendy. That’s coach
Mike’s sweetheart. To cut Redman something is going on with Mike & Mendy (LOL)
Is that a random LOL, or a reference to Mork and Mindy? Cuz there are some of us who don’t want to miss our chance….
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
by Concomitandt on Sep 5, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Also very excited about the non-sequitur. Cuz that’s the kind of guy I am this week….
I'm just here to express my Steelerness!
by Concomitandt on Sep 5, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Can someone explain practice squad and waivers to me please? I’m Australian, and have yet to fully understand the procedure from here out? Cheers
hey mojo, here’s a pretty good explanation on the KC blog: http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/9/5/1016903/how-does-the-nfl-waiver-wire
Roderick Hood and Cory Ivy
Were cut today…I know we have good depth at DB, but vets like those two don’t come around too often…just sayin…
Thank you drive through...
no problem
I can’t blame you for not understanding the waiver system, I just watched a few minutes of aussie rules football, and was completely mystified!
Anthony Smith done in Green Bay
Just to add to the conversation, the Packers cut Anthony Smith. All prior articles made it seem he’d easily make the team, but his lack of ST skills cost him.
by VinniePie on Sep 6, 2009 2:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
HA!
That is awesome, what a DB (and I don’t mean Defensive Back). Too bad he won’t be around to guaranty a victory over the Steelers this year. I wondered when GB signed him if it was just to help out with their conversion to the 3-4 up there.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 6, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
he's on our PS
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Sep 7, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Riedman
Steeler are going to regret cutting Redmam after Miss Mendy is bounce back from first downs and the goal line.
Well, we just passed noon
Any word on who we’ll sign to the practice squad? Hopefully the list will include Redman, Shipley, Harris, and Woods.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
by LV Steelers Fan on Sep 6, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Off topic, but I'm puzzled...
By the news that the pats traded R. Seymour to the raiders for a 2011 1st rd pick, per NFL.com.
by TBsteeler on Sep 6, 2009 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
More puzzling...
…is they signed former Steelers OL Kendall Simmons who you might remember was cut by the team in Feb after suffering a torn Achillies tendon last year. Simmons also suffers from diabetes.
Bill Belichick must be blackmailing Al Davis because this is highway robbery. The Patriots are going to be getting, quite possibly, the 1st pick of the NFL draft next year.
And don’t forget, this is the same team that practically handed Randy Moss to the Patriots on a silver platter.
The pick is in the 2011 draft...
I don’t disagree that the raiders overpaid, but remember there are 2 yrs before that selection would come into play. Maybe a miracle will occur and they’ll go 8-8 in 2010.
by TBsteeler on Sep 7, 2009 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HOLY CRAP YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE THIS
Redman actually cleared waivers!
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09249/996099-100.stm
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
and
So did Shipley and Harris. I think someone owes someone around her a LOT of loot on 9 to 1 odds that both of them would never clear waivers and be on the PS together. DAMN, I should have gotten in on that action.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Sep 6, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomlin rolled the dice and won... this time!
Steelers fans should be happy as all get out to have Redman available on the practice squad. If one of the backs goes down with an injury this season (hopefully that doesn’t happen), but if it does; at least Redman can fill the spot and show his true worth to Tomlin and the rest of the non believers.
i knew he would, every team has players they want to keep
theres a small chance they take someone else’s players but they like the guys who already know their schemes and such.
I figured the most sought after running back that got cut would be Ian Johnson, he had a good preseason.
still gots him
Not only did we sign Redman to the PS, but we also kept Ship, and Harris, Sherrod, McClendon, Vincent (why), and Grisham.
Did anyone see that DE Richard Seymore from the PATS is going to the Raiders for a future #1 draft pick?? I’m curious about this one.
We didn't
keep Sonny Harris, Carolina took him. They had two free spots on their active roster. Bitches!
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
Don't agree with cutting Sonny Harris and ....
I still don’t. The Panthers get a good young DE for nothing, which is supposedly what Tomlin has said he’s wanted for the past 3 years. And they lose him over Travis Kirschke and Nick Eason? Are you F**&%%$$ kidding me? Damn! Damn! Damn!
The open spot tells me that the Steelers are going to sign a veteran OL and probably put Tony Hills on the practice squad. I’d offer Carolina T. Hills for Sonny Harris even up. At least I know that Harris can play.
Tony Hills can't be in the PS
What open spot?
Remember, just because they're on the practice squad does not prevent them from signing with another team
Here’s the rule:
Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs:
(a) Any player under contract to a Club as a practice squad player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any Club’s Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a practice squad player while under contract as a practice squad player.
(b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) above, a practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club’s next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).
huh, didn't know that???
Well I guess it’s true what people say… you do learn something everyday!
but as far as these rules go… they suck!
The NFL is getting to be a bunch of guidance counselors over these players anymore. don’t hit this guy, don’t hit that guy, or you’ll get a big fine for this action. Let the players PLAY for God’s sake. I would luv if the NFL just threw out the rule books from 1980 up and bring back smash mouth football the way it was played in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. If it wasn’t for those players who played back then; the NFL wouldn’t be what it is today. Just think too… those guys played for a hell of a lot less than any today.
Add another 32 onto 12
No, but I’m guessing you are after viewing your replies on here. Would someone please get this child a binky!
VINCENT AGAIN?????
What the hell is wrong with this staff giving so many opportunities to Justin Vincent?? It makes NO FUCKING SENSE!!! Release him for good for christ sake..
Anthony Smith
getting released is hilarious!
Is there anybody on our roster worth cutting to pick up Paul Spicer? Reminds me of Kemo when he came in, allbet a bit slower. Since we couldn’t keep Sonny we might need another body against heavy running teams.
Alright, okay, I don't dance, no way I just take my Terrible Towel out and wave it around in the air!!!!
in related news
Kendall Simmons got signed by the Pats:)
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 7, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Team Captains Named!!
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09249/996109-100.stm
Ben, Hines, Harrison, Farrior, Reed, Fox
Team General really??
…..cuz I heard he was picked up by the medical staff and is now the orthopedic consultant.
Maybe I heard wrong!!!!;)
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Sep 7, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Number changes
Stefan Logan from #41 to 11
Shaun McDonald from #87 to 81
Joe Burnett from #40 to 27
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Sep 7, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
Tomlin
I think Tomlin’s head is swelling up bit. He needs to watch what the hell he’s saying out his mouth. …..What these mix messages and crazy a$$ comments, before he kick him self in the mouth. Mike………… shut the fuck up and coach. If you can will you team to a 2nd straight Winning SB ………and put some fire up Mendy a$$ than run your mouth.
How dare you tell Tomlin to shut the **** up.
he knows what hes doing. He won a Super Bowl in his second year and one the division in his first year. Bite your damn tongue.
Next time you have a thought, let it go.
Untoo
What color is the sky in your world????
Bonus points… for anyone who can name the 1980’s sitcom that line was from…anyone?
Cliff to no one in particular
“Alex, Situation Comedy for $20 please”
by steeler.lifer on Sep 8, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
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