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The myth of Joe Flacco


Playoff numbers-

08     Miami     9/23     135 yards      0 td     0 int

08     Tenn       11/22    161 yards     1 td     0 int

08      Pit            13/30    141 yards     0 td     3 int

09       NE           4/10      34 yards       0 td      1 int

09        Ind           20/35    189 yards    0 td      1 int 
 

Why is everyone so fascinated with Joe Flacco?   In five playoff games he is 57/120, 660 yards, 1 td, and 5 int.
Yet during every broadcast of one of his games he is played up as one of the great young quarterbacks, I just don't see it.  Some one enlighten me please.

(I am not a Flacco hater, just don't get the publicity)

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Well the NE game he had a rating of 10

I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Jan 17, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know exactly

but it looks like his career playoff QB rating is around 45.

50.4 last year, and 39.4 this postseason.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 17, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

0.13 %

Every day brings future to past, every breath leaves me one less to my last. DT

by usmcsdi69 on Jan 18, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Overall playoff QB rating of 50.0

…according to this site, which everyone should bookmark. When you complete less than 50% of your passes and have a 5-to-1 ratio of INTs to TDs, you are officially living in JaMarcus Russellville.

by Steelin on Jan 18, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Flacco a break..

Let’s be honest, I am one of the biggest Ravens haters on this board. I enjoy hating on them and pointing out their flaws, but let’s be honest Flacco is only in his second year. If you watched him play this year, which I did a lot of since I live in the MD area, he has a strong arm and is very accurate. His decision making is still not great, especially under duress. However, with experience and a good OC/QB coach and maybe even a veteran QB on their staff he can improve that.

We as Steelers fans got very lucky at how quickly Ben matured in the playoffs. Usually, QBs don’t win in the playoffs until their 3rd or 4th go at it. Pressure gets to some people more so than other people.

Anyway, Flacco, as much as I hate to admit it, is definitely a good QB. That kind of sucks, because for long while the Ravens have not had that. He isn’t Ben, but that isn’t a knock on him. They have two different styles of play.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

And as far as all the hype goes

The media loves a story about a player who comes from no where (Brady much?).

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he will get better,

but I don’t believe that he is now, as good as he is given credit for.

by grapes on Jan 17, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

FLACCO SUCKS!!! WOOOOOO!!! GO STILLERS!!!

Seriously though, I only think he can be considered the next great QB when he wins in the playoffs or at least has a good showing. Same goes with MattyIce in ATL and VY in Tennessee.

"Every Day I walk past 6 Lombardi trophies not 6 rushing titles" - Greatest Tomlinism ever.

by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 17, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

Can't cut on him

Two seasons in the league.

Two PO appearances.

AFC Championship game appearance.

3-2- PO record.

Results are what matter most to me. He’s done extremely well.

by King Coebra on Jan 18, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

yep

and Limas Sweed is a dominant postseason player too, because the Steelers are 3-0 in the playoffs with him on the roster

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid comparison

because Limas Sweed takes every single offensive snap, reads complex NFL defenses, plays injured, and makes decisions with the football in his hand on pretty much every offensive snap. Your comparison is ludicrous.

by King Coebra on Jan 18, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad

if you don’t like it, read something else.

I thought your post was ludicrous, too. For some reason, you said he’s done extremely well – PROVE IT.

In reference to your last post:
Flacco doesn’t take every snap, can’t read complex defenses to save his life, I’ve never heard of him playing injured, and he makes the worst decisions with the ball in his hands that I’ve ever seen in the playoffs (on pretty much every snap).

Don’t try to be a jerk to me, punk. My reply was meant to show how bad your post was, and it succeeded.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome reply

Love the internet tough guy act. Top notch.

by King Coebra on Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Outstanding

The fact you don’t agree with my assessment of Flacco isn’t what is bothersome. It’s the fact you made a ludicrous comparison between a player who rarely even dresses for an NFL game and a starting NFL QB who has guided his team to the playoffs two seasons in a row.

So you’re going to attempt to drag down the maturity level of yet another thread on this site. Can’t wait.

by King Coebra on Jan 18, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm a terrible person

Get a life. I “dragged down the maturity level of this thread” by you calling my opinion ludicrous?

Lots of people have different opinions, get over it.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

just not gonna be bullied anymore by the know-it-all’s who think they are always right, and the only ones who know anything about football….everyone’s opinion (like it or not) counts the same here

And I’m going to say some things people don’t like sometimes. Boo hoo.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon man

I never said you were a terrible person. What I stated was that your comparison between Sweed who is a WR who rarely, if ever, plays to a starting NFL QB is ridiculous. It holds no water and makes no sense.

For that I get called a “punk”.

Have a nice day. I’m not going to get into it with you any further.

by King Coebra on Jan 18, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

and I got called atrocious

AND you tried to throw in the whole, tired-ass “internet tough-guy” thing, lmao

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never heard of him playing injured,

Flacco’s thigh was 3 inches bigger because of swelling since week 15 and he played every snap since then. Been playing with a sprained ankle since week 6.

Anything else?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 18, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's the first I've heard of this

and for the 4,443rd time, I believe Flacco will eventually grow into a decent QB

My OPINION is that he is not a good QB right now.

For the record, how many players in the NFL DON’T play hurt?

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"Punk"?

Don’t go that route.

Although you two appear to have worked this out pretty well, I’ll remind everyone that personal attacks aren’t acceptable here.

Just don’t do it.

by tobiathan on Jan 18, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I don't get it either...

He had a mercurial season last year, and got to the AFCCG. This year, they squeaked into the post season, beat the cheat-riots (YAY), but got exposed by Manning and the lay-down colts.

Flacco is not a good QB. That offense hinges on Ray Rice, sort of like the Tits with Chris Johnson. Monobrow Joe gets lucky, and that defense bails him out constantly.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 17, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions  

I watched that game last night

and Flacco seemed way off. The Colts put the ball in his hand and Flacco flailed. Horrible throws. He is not good an average QB. Another Trent Dilfer

by PCISteeler on Jan 17, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

I believe

He had a injured hamstring on his plant leg that was underplayed the entire postseason. That is why his ball speed was down. However, he has a lot better arm than Dilfer did. Not even close.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Will get better but how much?

He has been disappointing this post season even though he is young. I also didn’t get why the Ravens didn’t take some shots down the field throughout the course of the game. Cam Cameron had a good 1st qtr playcalling but then they just played dink and dunk between running plays. Mason was playing well as usual but they didn’t keep the Dolts off-balance after mid 2nd qtr.

The guy has a big arm and is pretty accurate in the 20-40 yard range. They need a speed receiver and a big target who can run some. The pass game was bad the last 2 weeks even for them. Flacco should be a little better than he showed yesterday for sure – he has played a lot of games for a guy in his second year.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Jan 17, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Flacco doesn't deserve a break.

His developmental stage is long past but he still sucks, particularly in critical situations and key downs—where games are won or lost. The talking heads usually say that, given better receivers, Flacco would blossom into a top NFL QB. But I agree with grapes that his potential is largely illusory. I won’t be surprised if Flacco is relegated to a backup role in the league someday soon. He simply doesn’t have the accuracy and savvy that a top QB needs. Did you see the play yesterday when his receiver had beaten the coverage for a TD but Flacco floated the pass and it was picked off? The playoff stats cited by grapes speak volumes.

by Billy52 on Jan 17, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

His developmental stage is long past but he still sucks

What? He is in only his second season. Most NFL QBs take 4 or 5 seasons to truly develop. Hell, there was a great article written before the season about how QBs generally have their best seasons around the 6th year of their career. How do you figure his developmental stage is over?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but he should be getting better, not worse.

Compare Big Ben’s first two years to Flacco’s for example. BB was way ahead of Flacco at the end of his second year. I’m just saying that, the way Flacco has been playing, a young QB like a Dennis Dixon could come along and take his job away, if he gets hurt and has to miss a few games. At this point, Flacco simply isn’t making a strong case that he’s the team leader.

by Billy52 on Jan 18, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

You cannot compare Flacco to Ben

As I said before, we were really fortunate at how quickly Ben matured (specifically in the playoffs). Most QBs take 3 or 4 or even 5 times in the playoffs to really “get good” at winning in the playoffs. Some people handle pressure like that differently than others. For example, in HS my soccer team was very good and we had two goalies. One was an absolute beast in the regular season but the pressure of the post season made him crumble. Our back-up was the complete opposite and relished the pressure and led us to a state championship. Was the first guy a bad goalie? Certainly not, (he went on to play D1), he just, at the time, was not used to the pressure. Eventually, he developed how to cope with the pressure and is now playing overseas for a reputable club.

Anyway, Flacco did improve. All of his stats went up from last year. If he ever does get a true #1 wide-out, we are going to have trouble.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll see

you’re right he should be getting better, but it hasn’t been by much. As a rookie he didn’t throw up on himself but he wasn’t exactly setting rookie records either. I think people just over-react when a rookie does an adequate job. Like how people are gushing over Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez now. If a rookie can go in and not lose the game for his team people think he’s the next so and so. Lets get real, wait until their 4th and 5th year in the league then judge. If flacco is still doing the same crap even if they get him a better season then you can say he sucks. But from a second year player he isn’t bad but he isn’t that good either. If that makes much sense.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Second Year QB Numbers

Being a numbers guy…I figured I’d take some time to look up some numbers so we can compare. Ok, I took QBs that started this year (at least one game) that I have considered to have at least decent careers so far (oh and they had to start their 2nd year, duh!):

So, Flacco is above AVG in comp %, yards, and picks. He is right around avg in TDs and rating.

Now Cutler, Palmer (1 snap doesn’t count), Brees, Romo, Favre, and Culpepper all did not even make the playoffs in their 2nd year. E. Manning and Bulger were the worst in their appearances with 3 picks a piece and sub 55 QB ratings. P. Manning was pretty bad with under a 50% comp rate and no TDs and a loss. McNabb was good in the first game and then bad in the second. Roethlisberger and Warner both won the SB in their second year, but both of them were bad in one of the games. Warner in the NFCCG 3 picks and a 56.2 QB rating and Ben the SB with 2 picks and a sub 30 QB rating.

So again, I fail to see why Flacco is being held at such an absurdly high standard. All these very good QBs (ok, maybe not Cutler), struggled at some point in their 2nd years. Getting to the playoffs is a feat in itself for a 2nd year QB.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

They just need a #1. And maybe 2 more years of development for Flacco, depending on how he progresses.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice work, Johnny

One thing these numbers don’t take into account is the general improvement in QB stats. In 2009, Flacco’s 88.9 rating was 13th best in the NFL. In 2006 (Romo’s second year), it would have ranked 9th. In 1999 (Peyton’s second year), it would have ranked 6th. So when comparing Flacco’s 2009 season to the second year of QB’s that have been in the league for a decade or more, Flacco will naturally look better.

I agree, though, that we really have to wait another year or two to see how good Flacco can be.

by Steelin on Jan 18, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually no

And for 2nd year, as I stated, E. Manning and Bulger’s numbers were worse and McNabb’s were right around the same spot.

Also, Grossman did not play in the POs in his 1st or 2nd year. He played in his 4th and 5th.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 19, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I was kidding, because Grossman was so bad

Thanks for the stats, Johhny. You are a numbers guy.

For the record, Flacco is nowhere near as bad as Grossman. But, I checked it out on NFL.com, and Grossman’s playoff stats are FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR better than Flacco’s.

Grossman – 4 games, 69com, 133att, 51.9%comp, 783yds, 4TD’s, 4picks, 67.3QB rating

Flacco – 5 games, 57com, 120 att, 47.5%comp, 660yds, 1 TD, 6picks, approximately 46QB rating

Not even close.

Wow. I never would have guessed that.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 19, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I noticed that, but Grossman got time to sit behind another QB and learn early. And he didn’t hit those PO games until later in his career.

Even looking at those playoff stats I’d take Flacco as my QB a million times over if I had to pick between the two.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 19, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no doubt, so would I

I was just amazed that even Grossman had better playoff numbers. I wouldn’t even let Grossman be my 3rd stringer, because he might have to come into a game, LOL.

Remember also, Grossman played for a good college program at Florida. He had already been in many big games before he ever got to the league. Add to that your point about him being able to sit and learn, and he had a huge advantage over Flacco, you’re right.

But I don’t remember anyone calling Grossman the Bears’ savior, and drastically overhyping him, like they do Joe Flacco. In fact, that’s probably why alot of Steeler fans don’t like him, what with the constant comparisons to Big Ben (which are absurd). Probably has alot to do with my distaste for him, too.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 19, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That is why I don't like Flacco

I still respect him though. I realize he does have talent and a gigantic ceiling (which I hope he never ever reaches). That was all I was trying to say.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

well, we agree then

except for the gigantic ceiling part, lol

I, too, hope he never reaches it.

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 20, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for this Johnny

Nice work. Hopefully this shows many of the idiots out there who think that Flacco is absolutely atrocious, like I have read in many comments.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 18, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

mostly on your own site...

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 18, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on that to

I heard a caller on the Radio today say that we should cut Flacco and draft Colt McCoy. Nearly crashed.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 18, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOL

THAT is some funny shit. I’d love to see it happen, but it never will.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 18, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's my take on flacco

He HAS won 3 playoff games, which is many more than other AFC North QBs (haha). But if I recall, the big plays he made in the POs last year were mostly due to cornerback screw ups… I’m thinking about the bomb to Mason at about the 2 yard line in the titans game, or was it the Miami game, or both? He can get the ball where it needs to be, but poor coverage made the reception possible. The Steelers weren’t havin’ it in 2008. In 2009, when our secondary took a crap, Flacco hit some TD passes. I’m thinking about Taylor and Clark in the game in MD this year. GARBAGE secondary play = flacco touchdowns.

This year the Colts saw how the ravens ran on the Pats, and decided to force the ravens to win with flacco. This was a winning strategy.

It’s all in flacco’s mind now. He needs to make better decisions. Better skill position talent around him would help. He certainly has all the physical skills. I love him just for the funny faces he makes when he’s getting sacked.

This is nothing that others haven’t said, but there it is. He’s no Big Boy, that’s for sure.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 19, 2010 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

MaLoR

You generally do a damned good job of maintaining a degree of civility here on the homesite of a major rival, so I urge you to avoid falling to the level of name-calling.

You can do better.

by tobiathan on Jan 18, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I was not just referring to BTSC guys. You should see some of the garbage I read from people on the Ravens blog. You guys actually have nicer things to say about Joe than some of our Ravens “fans.”

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

You all suck

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 17, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

What?

I defended him a bit.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 17, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I saw

You cool

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 17, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Mr M-

Sorry about your Ravens yesterday. At least YOU GUYS got into the playoffs & had a sweet V against the Pats!
BTW, what’s with your Avatar image? It looks rather Black ‘n’ Gold to me…! You SAY you’re a Ravens fan, but I’m beginning to believe the rumor that you’re really a closet Stiller fan! :)

by TheHumbleOne on Jan 17, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It is Flacco.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 17, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No I'd give the nod to Peyton there

Huge in the regular season, not clutch in the playoffs sans that AFCCG against the ’cheats on the way to a Super Bowl.

7-8 in playoffs, overall QB rating of 84.6 in the playoffs, including a 70.5 in their glorious SB run in which the great Manning performed with a 3-7 TD-INT ratio.

by sylvansteeler on Jan 18, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

Manning is the sole reason that team is good year after year. Without him their toast. (too bad he never gets hurt and I don’t have any real evidence to point to. I guess look at Curtis Painter’s performance week 16 against the Jets. It’s the best I can do…)

by theatrain on Jan 18, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Be kind to puppets

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 17, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

Remove Mason from the offense

And Flacco’s numbers will be more worse. I admit I don’t see Ravens games that much but I think that Flacco’s passes are more thrown towards Mason. It’s as if he does not feel comfortable with any other WR.

"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).

by Han on Jan 17, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Well they do all kind of suck.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Jan 18, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That is absolutely True

Mason is his favorite receiver for sure. I thought Todd Heap would be a bigger safety net for a young QB but they don’t seem to be clicking that well from what I have seen. I like Mason as a possession-type receiver – he gets open and catches the ball well.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Jan 18, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ravens fan

A lot of things you all say are true however, he has not gotten his full chance. He did not have a chance to sit behind a veteran qb and is only in his 2nd year. He has all the physical tools but definitely does need to work on the mental part.I don’t think it’s fair to scrutinize him this much when we only have one decent receiver who is well passed his prime. If this continues over the next 2 or 3 years then he deserves all this talk, but you have to give him a chance first.

by AV23 on Jan 17, 2010 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

It is still unclear what is going to happen to Flacco

1) Baltimore needs to fire their QB coach and get someone that teach Flacco how to read defenses.

2) He the guy is not a leader yet when the team is asking him to take the lead. The commentary last night said it best when they mentioned Ray lewis is the team leader. If he is your team leader you are in trouble. A good QB leads the entire offense and team. Look at Ben and how is friends with his O-line and treats his receivers by working with them. Remember Charlie Batch has helped Big Ben a lot. More then most of us think. What Baltimore needs to do is let Troy Smith go and get a veteran 2nd string QB to help Flacco out.

3) I think the receivers are an issue but Flacco needs to stop staring down his targets and spread the ball out more. I think even if Flacco had Larry Fitz he just stare him down all the way. It is just way to easy to read his eyes. Also Flacco has work with then one receiver and find out what their strengths and weakness are.

4) I know the fans of Baltimore want a trophy but it takes time to build a good team.

I think Flacco could be good but I think next year will tell if he has signs of greatness or not. The question is can he survive the Baltimore sports media before they run him out of town on a knee-jerk reaction.

by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 17, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

What they need to do most

Is get rid of Troy Smith who thinks he is an NFL starter (that is a moronic statement, but that is a different argument) and bring in a veteran QB. It doesn’t need to be someone who is going to start, but a guy that can teach Flacco a few things (Garcia much?).

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Garcia?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 19, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

His career might be over then

I can’t think of a team that wants a quick-fix 1-2 year starter that doesn’t know their system.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Betcha Garcia couls make some noise in Cleveland

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He could for sure

But they are looking for a long term answer. That starts by dumping one of the QBs they have now and drafting a guy.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 19, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, they could dump both DA and BQ

get Garcia, a PROVEN winner, and draft the best QB available and let him develop under Garcia.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 19, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, fatty Holmgren pissed away his best weapon

by offering Cribbs that insult of a salary…

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 19, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Cause it is the offseason

And there is nothing better to talk about?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 18, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll worry about the Ravens situation if

they draft Dez Bryant.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 18, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

but the Steelers don't want recievers this year

so we don’t have to worry about the Ravens getting one – they only draft players we want (regardless of need at the position), so that we won’t get them

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So correct

We base our entire draft around making sure you don’t get the players you want. Man, where do you come up with this garbage?

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 18, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

it was a joke Malor

just a joke, that’s all

you do it all the time

by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Jan 18, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Besides, we pick before they do (for once)

and they don’t have any trade bait to move up high enough in the draft to pick before we do.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 18, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Who do you guys want?

I’ll make sure to let Ozzie Newsome know so that he can make a trade for the spot above you.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Who would you use as bait?

Mason? Ha! Maybe Ray Rice could get you to #17 or above, but not even Ozzie is dumb enough to do that. Reed is broken, Ray-ray is old, and Flacco smells.

Unless you traded away all your other picks, your not getting ahead of us.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 19, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Why, Mr. MaLoR. haven't you ever heard

of conspiracy theories? We have a number of them here. I for one felt that during our first loss this season the Bears had decided to let us come roaring out of the gate so that we would be overconfident and would then crash and burn. It’s much more gratifying than just accepting that we lost because we didn’t play as well as they did. I think the idea of the Ravens undermining us by taking players in the draft that they think we want is splendid, and I’m sorry that we won’t be able to use that as an excuse next year…

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 18, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I have heard of conspiracy theories.

Don’t you know about the one going on with Baltimore? You know, how the league hates the Ravens, gives us ridiculous schedules with primetime games in Pitt every year, and pays the refs to give us bad calls?

Yes, I know of conspiracy theories.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 3:53 AM EST up reply actions  

those are all ray's theories

and ben gets smashed up 10x worse than any ravens roughing the brady call, without a flag

by klompus on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Why do sportscasters and sportswriters love Flacco????

It’s the unibrow.

Sportsguys love the unibrow. And Flacco has the best one to hit Crabtown since
Unibrow God Andy Etchebarren played for the O’s back in the day.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Jan 17, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Chicks did the Unibrow

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If you give Arians a fullback, he won’t use one. Instead, he insists on using Matt Spaeth, who probably doesn’t cast a shadow because it would require blocking sunlight." steelin with some very true words

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 17, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Flacco

The kid has no one at receiver. No one.

Ben has receivers, always has. Remember Wilson? He’d start on this Ravens team. I don’t care who the QB is, no one is having success with no speed or size or consistent getting open at WR.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 17, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Hold on!

Flacco had guys open against Indy (one for a TD) but he couldn’t get the ball to them. Even if he gets better WRs, it’ll only reveal how inadequate the guy is as a QB.

by Billy52 on Jan 18, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Kyle Boller

makes Flacco look sexy. Thats all

by Steelchamps !! on Jan 18, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

It's the Unibrow

Chicks dig the Unibrow

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If you give Arians a fullback, he won’t use one. Instead, he insists on using Matt Spaeth, who probably doesn’t cast a shadow because it would require blocking sunlight." steelin with some very true words

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 18, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Flacco Flacco Flacco

All the ravens fans are playing him up as the next Big Ben. Aikmen said he was “Big Ben in a Different Jersey” Im not buying this crap. You could make the WR arguement, but if flacco made better reads, he would give his receivers a better chance.

by Loftus Roadrunner on Jan 18, 2010 6:16 AM EST reply actions  

Better Recievers?

When Ben won the first SB, there was Hines, Randel El, and Wilson. That group maybe better than what the ravens have but not by that much much. Its not like they were rolling Larry Fitz, Boldin, and breaston out there

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 18, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

don't forget cash miller

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 18, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

this is funny

im just laughing at the fact on the broadcast, they said he still lives with his mom, its time to grow up and move on Joe, and he still has his idol Tom Brady posters in his room, hilarious

by JakeSchalmo on Jan 19, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

Ray Finkle kept all his stuff up in his room

And you don’t mess with a soccer style kicker.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 3:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm telling ya

Joe Flacco is a virgin.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 19, 2010 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea right, Joe raped some girl that worked in a hotel not too long ago.

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

If you said boy I would believe you

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

dude with that unibrow he must be getting all sorts of tail

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If you give Arians a fullback, he won’t use one. Instead, he insists on using Matt Spaeth, who probably doesn’t cast a shadow because it would require blocking sunlight." steelin with some very true words

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 19, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

from the female grouches?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 19, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Arn your ability to make anything funny is stunning

I can’t compete with it

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: DIck Lebeau, Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"If you give Arians a fullback, he won’t use one. Instead, he insists on using Matt Spaeth, who probably doesn’t cast a shadow because it would require blocking sunlight." steelin with some very true words

by WVPiratesfan on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t laugh….

You have to hate losing more than you love winning.

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 19, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I laughed for you. :)

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 19, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

joe's old lady:

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 19, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Frieda! I think...

That’s that movie Salma Hayek got all uglied up for, yeah?

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 19, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I remembered her unibrow’d ass and figured I’d google her up

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 20, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, now -

no making fun of guys that live with their moms. I might be offended. As long as he doesn’t watch Oprah I’m cool with it.

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 19, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Plrase don't mention Oprah again..

It makes me itch.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a myth like Big Foot?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 19, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

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