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Steelers News: Mocking the Mock Drafts

For the next two months just about everyone with the ability to punch keys on a keyboard will become draft experts and publish their very own mock draft. The Steelers enter the 2010 draft season with more question marks than normal and certainly their needs will be more clearly defined once the status of players like Casey Hampton, Ryan Clark and Willie Parker are resolved, but for now here's what the mockers are mocking.....

Draft Countdown: CJ Spiller (RB-Clemson) - One of the benefits of being a strong organization and consistent winner is that you can always have one eye on the future. Sure the Steelers have a need or two but for the most part their roster is in great shape and their rookies aren't forced to step into the starting lineup from day one. Lawrence Timmons, who is finally getting a chance to start this season after serving a two year apprenticeship, is a perfect example. A couple of years ago Pittsburgh used their first round pick on Rashard Mendenhall and it wouldn't hurt to bring in someone like Clemson's C.J. Spiller to replace the aging and injury-prone Willie Parker as the "Lightning" to Mendenhall's "Thunder". A versatile player with blazing speed who is capable of making an impact as a runner, receiver and return man, Spiller isn't an every down workhorse but he is an explosive playmaker that defenses must account for at all times. It's not an exaggeration to say that Spiller is a threat to take it the distance at any time from anywhere on the field and the success that fellow speed demon Chris Johnson is having in the NFL will surely work in Spiller's favor on Draft Day. Free safety might also be a need if Ryan Clark bolts as a free agent and don't be shocked if the Steelers follow their recent M.O. and just throw everyone another curve ball in the first round.

Star-divide

Scout (2 Rounds): Bryan Bulaga (OT-Iowa) - The Steelers had a down year and it's obvious they need help on the offensive line. Bulaga's athleticism will help and he'll start from day one.

  • Round 2: Dominique Franks (CB-Oklahoma) - The Steelers secondary was woeful in '09 and it's evident that they need an upgrade. Franks has great size and cover skills and will add relief in '10.

NFL.com (Brooks): Patrick Robinson (CB-FSU) - The Steelers' suspect secondary repeatedly cost them down the stretch, so Mike Tomlin shores up one side of the field.

Walter Football (3 rounds): Earl Thomas (FS-Texas) - Safety will be a big need for the Steelers this offseason. Both Ryan Clark (30) and Tyrone Carter (34) will be free agents in March, so Pittsburgh will need a new starter across from Troy Polamalu and some depth as well.

  • Round 2: Trevard Lindley (CB-Kentucky) - The Steelers continue to upgrade a secondary that couldn't stop Bruce Gradkowski in a must-win December game. I'll be shocked if they don't really try to repair their defensive backfield this offseason.
  • Round 3: Sergio Kindle (DE/OLB-Texas) - The Steelers have two great pass-rushing linebackers, but they don't exactly have the best depth at the position. Also, don't forget that James Harrison turns 32 in May. Sergio Kindle slips a bit here, so Pittsburgh is getting great value.

Draft Tek (5 Round Simulator): Patrick Robinson (CB-Florida State) - Robinson is a potent combination of size, instincts, and athleticism. The Steelers will heavily consider top corner talent. They'll also look for reassurances that Robinson's head is on straight after involvement in the cheating scandal at FSU. -Patrick (Drafttek Steelers Analyst)

  • Round 2: Darrell Stuckey (SS-Kansas State) - This is a great pick of a top player at a position of need. The Steelers desperately need an upgrade over Tyrone Carter with Polamalu missing so many games. FS Ryan Clark is also an UFA doubling the need in the defensive backfield.-Patrick (Drafttek Steelers Analyst)
  • Round 3: Kam Chancellor (FS-Virginia Tech)
  • Round 4: Mike Neal (DE-Purdue)
  • Round 5: Cliff Matthews (OLB34-South Carolina)

Draft Daddy: Perrish Cox (CB-Oklahoma State) - The Steelers may be targeting CBs, Cox is a strong man-to-man player with ball skills.

New Sport Draft: Terrence Cody (DT-Alabama) - Cody is a monster in the middle. He would fit perfect in the Steelers defense. I know they already have a great D-line but they get much younger and get a run-stopper to help their D-line.

  • Round 2: Anthony McCoy (TE-USC) - McCoy is one of the top rated TEs in my 2010 NFL mock draft. At 6'5, 250 pounds, McCoy should be able to help an NFL team in the passing game.
  • Round 3: Anderson Russell (FS-Ohio State)
  • Round 4: Ryan D'Imperio (ILB-Rutgers)
  • Round 5: Aaron Webster (S-Cincinnati)

NFL Draft King: Earl Thomas (FS-Texas) - The Troy Polamolu loss crushed the defending Super Bowl champs any chance of a repeat. The Steelers gave up a league most 5 leads in the 4th quarter this past season which was the main reason they were on the outside looking in on the post season tournament. With the possibility of Ryan Clark leaving via free agency, look for Pitt to select this ballhawk out of Texas who has the ability to stop the run, with the ability to capitalize on the oppositions mistakes through the air with the ability to take it back to the house. The Steelers could also go with C.J. Spiller here to work with Mendenhall, or possibly a Receiver as Hines Ward is on his last legs.

Football Expert: Mike Iupati (G-Idaho) - The Steelers build their team on the offensive line and defensive front seven. They also think long term meaning just because their front five is a weakness does not necessarily make them rush out and draft a player in the first round to "solve" that problem. Championship rosters are not built on plugging rookies in immediately all the time. In this case it appears the tackle class is deep enough for them to take a shot, but I'm looking for them to get back to their roots. The Steelers I know run the football and the guard position drives it. Roethlisberger can't keep throwing the ball 500 times per season and expect to have a long career. It's not the nearly 3 sacks per game he absorbs, it's the countless hits. Iupati is showing signs of being an elite interior blocker. If he shows up big at every step of the draft process it is likely for him to sneak into the middle of the first round. A lot of the early interior linemen taken in recent seasons have been successful which makes this choice less outrageous than it seems.

Draft Matters: Donovan Warren (CB-Michigan) - Troy Polamalu's injury has really exposed the secondary of the Steelers. His return will be a big help, but the Steelers need another defensive back to shoulder some of the load. Ike Taylor hasn't been playing at a very high level and is being targeted too often. Donovan Warren is the third best corner in this draft and fits nicely at 18.

NFL Draft Dog: Terrence Cody (NT-Alabama) - Cody (6' 5" 365 lbs) is a monster on the inside and can dunk a basketball at his current weight. Yes I know Cody is a little one dimensional, but as a two-down run stuffing nose tackle he is incredible.

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Clearly there doesn't seem to be a consensus choice out there for the Steelers just yet. If we can come to one conclusion based on these eleven mocks it's that the biggest need on this team appears to be on the defensive side of the ball. Four mocks have the Steelers taking a cornerback, while free safety and nose tackle are the only other positions that appear more than once.

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I wonder..

if the pundit at NFL Draft King would be willing to say this:

possibly a Receiver as Hines Ward is on his last legs
to Hines’ smiling face?

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2010 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

He'd get his jaw broke.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 20, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A 1000 yard WR on his last legs?

He’s got a good 2-3 years left, it looks like.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 20, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

all the same

we were saying that about farrior this time last year, and he definitely seemed to lose a step this year :(

by acrollet on Jan 20, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

la, la, la

I can’t hear you…

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But I think more WRs last further into their 30s than MLBs.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 21, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Inside LB is tough enough

add on losing some quickness….. I say Farrior trains like he has in the past, comes in at the weight he had always come in at and rebounds nicely next year.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I think so too...

I guess we’ll see.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 21, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Father Time remains undefeated my friends. It comes for all MLB’s, even Ray Ray.

by BluegrassSteeler on Jan 21, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Farrior played at 235lbs. this year

last year he only weighed 215-220lbs.

I think he WILL be back at his lower weight, and regains his speed next season.

Potsie doesn’t need to be big to be strong; he has that natural “old man strength”, and we all know that’s some scary stuff!…lol

by tobiathan on Jan 21, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

"old man strength" is no joke

Baseball scouts see it as a fact to be accounted for but, with the abuse of playing football, it all balances out.

by Bitfailu on Jan 21, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope so

I expect that we’ll get things improved defensively next year, one way or another.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 24, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good WRs can produce into their mid to late 30s

Because they don’t have to be #1s (hopefully Baltimore doesn’t figure that out). Look at Issac Bruce, he was still putting up good numbers before this year and I think he is 3 years older than Ward. Anyway, with Holmes at #1, Wallace emerging, and Miller getting better every year we do not have to depend on Wars as much. So he can easily finish out his contract in black and gold then retire.

MLBs it is different because there are only 2 of them on the field and they are responsible for a lot, especially when you are the captain/play caller. When you get really slow (which was also drastically influenced by a bad secondary) it can open up a ton in the middle of the field.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 21, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good point

how much of Farrior’s “loss of speed” could be attributed to his uncertainty about the safety coverage?

Could he have appeared to have lost a step because he was hesitating, to see if the safeties were in position?

Potsie’s too much a pro to be out of shape or to allow himself to lose a step IMO
.

by tobiathan on Jan 21, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What was that quote someone put up here a bit ago

“Father Time waits for no one”? I think it was something a bit more eloquent than that, but you get the idea. No amount of conditioning can prevent age from forcing you to lose a step.

"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight

by John Stephens on Jan 22, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: the Draft Tek 5 Round Simulation

If we go five rounds deep without drafting an offensive lineman I will simulate throwing my remote control through my television set.

Golf is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport.

by cliff harris is still a punk! on Jan 20, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

doubt they draft a o-linemen

unless someone just falls to them and they can’t pass up the value

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

In the first five rounds?

It’d be amazing if they didn’t get someone somewhere in those rounds.

by Chicago Steeler on Jan 20, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Our only real O-Line need is at Tackle, we have young guys at center and guard in the organization. If there aren’t tackles available where we would want them or there isn’t someone we really like I could totally see this happening.

It’s not a deep draft at tackle, and seriously if Earl Thomas is available, we need to draft him.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 20, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with your line assesment

it wouldn’t surprise me if they used a 2nd rd pick to get a C or G though if the circumstances were right

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

not sure about that

Foster may make a pretty fine RG with Kemo back…

by acrollet on Jan 20, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

barring any injuries or unforseen events

this has a good chance of being our line in 2011:

Colon, Starks, Kemoteau, Stapleton (@ C), Foster/Urbik

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't he a tackle?

I know he played guard this year, but isn’t he a tackle? His footwork is more RT than RG..

by nycsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Naw I think he'll stay at Guard

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

We need a high round interior lineman

Guard or Center. I know they’re high on legursky and foster but let’s get real, the reason we can’t run short yardage or screens is because we have those sort of FA chumps on the inside.

And a mid-round RT like Kyle Calloway out of Iowa would be a good investment

by syrsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok...

The Draft Countdown mock is a month old, and was last updated before we played our last two games. So I can see how they may have us picking at #12. For a minute, I thought they had us trading up to 12, to take a running back…

by alfresco on Jan 20, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

If the Steelers draft a RB in the first round

I’ll eat a terrible towel.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

Gonna jot that one down

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

When is DRAFT day anyway?

I’m being way to lazy to look.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

E.S.A.D.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Eat Salad and Digest?

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Jan 20, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

ooh, goody -

I love salad!

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

not the kind of salad he's talking about

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say it

But I passed, haha

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to wait you out

but I couldn’t resist

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear tossed salad

is a favorite in the finer correctional institutions ;-)

by tobiathan on Jan 20, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

until the invention of soap on a rope.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

More like a dog's breakfast, perhaps?

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Its on my calendar now baby

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The draft?

Or my not quite organic meal?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The latter

Gonna hold you to it. Though I’m with you and think the probability is remote. I am of the opinion that the Steelers draft D in the first THREE rounds at least.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

that would be terrible

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

can someone explain

to me the whole two down nose tackle . I mean wouldn’t you want a big guy clogging up as many people as possible ? i just never understood casey comin off every passing down unless its just cause he got hungry every two plays and had to eat.

by billsteelcity on Jan 20, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Well when folks talk about two down defenders they typically mean that they’re great against the run but poor against the pass, the presumption being that if you’ve stopped them on the first two downs they’re probably going to have to chuck it on third. Of course, it may be third and short against a team that typically runs it on third and shorts – so you’d keep Hampton in if that were the case.

More or less, Hampton can stop the run, but he’s not much of a pass rusher – you’d probably rather have Ziggy or Smith in the middle in that case. Both are better at rushing the QB than big snack. You might also want to trot out an extra LB as a situational pass rusher on such downs as well, which would justify taking Hampton out.

by BluegrassSteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't get any pass rush, he's just hard to move

and not athletic enough to chase down screens or drop back into coverage.

by syrsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Hines Ward

Although I don’t think that Hines is on his “last legs”, I do beleive that a Hines Ward prototype is out there in this years draft…Golden Tate from Notre Dame. He would fit the exact mold that Hines has filled for so long.

by mrauch3389 on Jan 20, 2010 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

I'm gonna disagree with you on this one.

There is no Hines Ward Prototype, there is only Hines Ward.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 20, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

All attempts to recreate Hines

Would end in a nuclear meltdown. So it is strictly prohibited in 49 states.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 21, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Hines is like Chuck Norris: you don't CREATE Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris creates HIMSELF!!!

And so does Hines Ward.

Either a guy turns out to be tough, smart, reliable and a leader or he doesn’t.

by tobiathan on Jan 21, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

johnny

ya kinda my feelings if they draft a te in the second

by billsteelcity on Jan 20, 2010 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Especially since:
McCoy is one of the top rated TEs in my 2010 NFL mock draft. At 6’5, 250 pounds, McCoy should be able to help an NFL team in the passing game.

Right…since our passing game is struggling, specifically at TE.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

who knows

possibly ariens is working on a 3 or 4 TE set.

his idea of creativity

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it.

TEs are cuter than OLs

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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 20, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I would

baom (barf all over myself)

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 20, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I started to work on a mock draft for the Steelers that would involve all players being able to play TE, but it got a little difficult and I gave up. Would have been funny though. BA would have wet himself with glee.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 20, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

RB in 1st Round

Only if he’s a Refrigerator Perry / Barry Sanders hybrid

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Jan 20, 2010 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

scribble scribble

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if

He is “the next Bus”

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bus

was voted the #6 all time NFL power back on the NFL Network’s Top 10.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd guess

Jim Brown, Campbell, Riggins are on there. Maybe Alstott

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by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

All of the above

Brown was #1, Riggins #2 and Campbell #3. I believe they had Nagurski at #4. There were a couple of old-timers sandwiched around Bettis at #5 and #7. I’m having a hard time remembering who they were. #8 escapes me as well. #9 was the nigerian nightmare and #10 was Alstott.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of cheated

Because I had heard somewhere randomly that Alstott made that list.

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by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Larry Csonka?

I vaguely remember some guy waxing poetic about how Csonka was once flagged for unnecessary roughness WHILE he had the ball.

by barnerburner on Jan 20, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

BINGO

Yep, he may have been #4 and Nagurski #5.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And when they profiled Csonk

they showed that play. It is true.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Najeh Davenport and T. J. Duckett

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't....though...

the only one he could beat was his girlfriend?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't know that he beat her.

I just know he dropped a deuce in her closet.

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He dropped a couple on the field too

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 23, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Those top 10s are a crock!

Number 6 my arse! He’s number one in yards and longevity, isn’t he? And he was the greatest leader of all of these guys I’m sure!

Did you guys ever see the Top 10 draft steals? They had Ray Guy in there. Not only is he a punter, he was drafted in the FIRST round? How is that a steal? Just another weird Al Davis pick is more like it. A punter in the first for crying out loud! Morons!

Consider it unleashed!

by Steelfrog on Jan 20, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know man

You ever see Jim Brown or Earl Campbell play? I wasn’t too offended with where they put Bussy. At most, he could/should have been #4. Jim Brown, Earl Campbell and Riggo were unreal.

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by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

Jim Brown is number one for sure. Campbell was great but his career was short. I love Riggins but he still should be behind the Bus IMO… So here are my 2 cents :

1-Brown
2-Bettis
3-Campbell/Bo Jackson (tie)
4-Riggins
5-Czonka

Consider it unleashed!

by Steelfrog on Jan 20, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can live with that

Although, keep in mind, Jim Brown played only 1 year longer than Campbell. Also, not sure what era you are from but I vividly remember watching Campbell run wild when I was a kid. Plus, they played the Steelers twice a year as the Oilers played in the same division. He was simply unstoppable. If I’m not mistaken, he led the league in rushing his first 3 years in the league. I think Bussy may be getting a “home town discount” on your list.

Any other world problems need solving? Let’s get to it!

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

I remember Campbell too from when I was a kid, he may have been better, but as I said, career length and leadership puts Bussy ever so slightly in front, in MY book of course…

Consider it unleashed!

by Steelfrog on Jan 20, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Um....

where are Walter and Barry?

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Jan 21, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Power backs, wozzle

I know Sweetness was a punisher, but he wasn’t really a power back. And Barry Sanders? Not exactly a bruiser.

Consider it unleashed!

by Steelfrog on Jan 21, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree on Payton

He hit you before you hit him…and hurt you. Should have made the list over players that played in the 50’s that were running over chain-smokers and other schmucks.

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by SandMountainTiger on Jan 25, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose you can't usurp a legend like Brown, but...

What seperated the Bus from other backs was his ability to wear teams down (and win us a ton of games that way). NOBODY could do that like him. Campbell was more nasty but his body couldn’t handle it. The fact is, it’s why Cowher had such a good record when he had the lead in the 4th quarter and why he could never win big games(cuz he never had the QB to carry the team when they fell behind). So IMO he was at least 2nd.

by Mathew Cowdery on Apr 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just power backs.

Bettis wasn’t a true power back until his later years robbed him of his quick footwork.

Bettis’s strength was his moves that would make a defender end up tackling him from a bad angle, he wasn’t just running into people straight on like your typical “Power Back” he was making them take bad shots at him, that’s why he lasted longer than the rest, they got beat up too much their way.

Calling Bettis a power back sells him short. So I don’t care where they put him on the list.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 20, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Cody

Has a problem staying in shape. Yeah, I’m an Auburn fan, but, well, you’ll see…

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by SandMountainTiger on Jan 25, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

More Auburn bias...

How about Ben Tate?

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by SandMountainTiger on Jan 25, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

thanks for compiling all of this for us. it’s pretty interesting even though i may strongly disagree with some of them. i agree with you in that the mock drafts will become a lot more realistic after a month of free agency.

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

an aside comment

i dont see the steelers taking a 1st rd CB, unless someone is available that shoulda been already drafted and is a GREAT pick. if they do it’ll mean the steelers spent two 5ths, a 3rd, and a 1st rd draft picks all on CB’s in the past 4 years. kinda a lot, especially when we used a 3rd & 5th last year & we still arent sure about their abilities yet.

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed....it would be odd to see so many picks on corners

Warren and Robinson would be decent values at 18 but it’s not like “OMG they fell to us, hallelujah.” Now if Joe Haden is still on the board, then we’ve got a “OMG” moment.

by cgolden on Jan 20, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think

some of these guys are accounting for our draft last year at all, with all of those picks in the secondary.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 20, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Knee-jerk picks at CB.

They saw how pathetic our pass D was this year, and pooped their pants.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 22, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Thunder and Lightning

I don’t remember hearing the phrase before Bush and White at USC. I don’t know that teams need a fast back and a strong back. All they need is two good backs.

by Bitfailu on Jan 20, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

very good point

the T&L phrase and even “change of pace back” are overused and overrated terms. Think of that short stretch when we had Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis working together well. Those two fat backs were running wild on everyone. I doesn’t matter if your two backs or both small or both big or a combination of both, as long as they’re both good.

by cgolden on Jan 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

NYG

didn’t they use this for Barber and Dayne?

by Steely McSmash on Jan 22, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time

the Steelers drafted someone their were projected to draft? I can’t remember seeing a single pick even being mentioned along with the Steelers. Mendenhal and Sweed were surprises, but even Timmons and Woodley, two Steeler type players weren’t mentioned with the Steelers. Not that I ever saw at least.

by 13thieves on Jan 20, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

i was thinking this the other day

it was the same with ziggy too, and even santonio.

by hasay on Jan 20, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Even the great Mel Kiper

Is generally way off. Last year Kiper got 3 of the top 16 correct.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually did that last year

There is also a site that has a lot of them compiled. I’ll have to go back and look.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, see if you can find it

so I can mock it

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I found that Kiper is less accurate than a woman in Maine

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I could get paid to guess at my job

Yikes, I’d be out the door (or the window) by now.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Guessing Jobs:

Draft Analyst
Economy Forecasters
Weather Forecasters
Climate Forecasters

Pretty much any job that assimilates playing God and knowing the future.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 21, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see Banker on that list

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 21, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

president

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

shhhhh

you’re bringing attention to response.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 23, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

For any of you websavvy business men out there

I’d like to see a website that took all the prominent mock drafts and compiled them so we can have a record of what is said. At the very least we can see who is doing a good job at mocking them.

by 13thieves on Jan 20, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone does a good job

its all a crap shoot.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 20, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

And surprisingly, some guys get paid a ton of money to essentially guess. Hell, most of us who know the Steelers pretty well probably haven’t gotten the last few 1st round picks correct.

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 20, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I saw Ziggy projected as a possibility

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 20, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw a few having the Ziggster as well.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 21, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

BTSC expert picked Ziggy

BadMaafala, who hasn’t been on the site lately, picked Ziggy going to the Steelers well before the draft. He did an excellent job the last two years breaking down draft round values of prospects by position and team needs heading into the draft, writing several front page features. His pick of Ziggy caught everyone by surprise. Hood’s name subsequently was in the media mix of possible picks in the last few days before the draft but BTSC was among the first, if not the first, to pick him going to the Steelers thanks to BadMaafala.

by steeler.lifer on Jan 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be where I remember reading it

I think you and the datruth predicted a couple roster moves over the last couple years before they happened as well. Keyaron Fox and Mewelde Moore come to mind.

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jan 24, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Heath Miller

If I remember correctly, the last time Kiper was right and most of the mock draft sites agreed. The Steelers picked Heath.

by SteelBuckeye on Jan 20, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

Optimism. Positivity. Win.

by John Stephens on Jan 21, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Timmons

Lots of folks predicted that one.

Hood wasn’t a huge surprise, he was targeted.

Mendenhall was a shocker because he slid.

by syrsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I do recall a mock draft that had us picking Ziggy last year...

Point taken though…
It doesn’t often happen where we draft who everybody picks us to draft.
But it has happened before as recent as last year…

by Mr 412 on Jan 24, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

No Fear Factor

As the season progressed without Troy on the field it was obvious no opposing team thought twice throwing the ball. No disrespect intended to Ryan Clark but ,as a unit ,the secondary does not make opposing teams pay the price for throwing the ball. How many ‘almost’ interceptions did we have this year ? How many opposing receivers were lit up after attempting to catch a pass ? Draft suppositions about running backs seem pale in comparison to the need for the neverending need for players in the secondary .

by bruiseology major on Jan 20, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

C J Spiller Steelers 1st rd pick? NO WAY

Can you imagine the Steelers really picking Spiller the RB from Clemson as their number one pick….pick number 17. Do you know what that would mean? That would mean that the STARTING running back…Mendenhall would be making LESS MONEY than the back up RB Spiller. Makes NO SENSE AT ALL.

Never mind the fact that out NT will be 32 and our OLB will be 32 and our ILB will be 35 and our S is 30.

Offensive line? It amazes me that the OL continues to get ripped. Big Ben holds the ball so long that most of you could take a whizz break before he throws it and you want to blame the OL for that? gimme a break. Remember when Mendenhall had those 150 yd games? Who was he running behind? Colon and Essex. Remember a few years ago on MNF Essex had to play LT and Freeney didn’t get ONE SINGLE SACK. Pittsburgh’s OL is a LOT better than anyone gives them credit for. Anyone see the Miami game at the end of the year? We were pinned at our own GL with Ben’s arm about in a sling….He threw THREE PASSES…..very unlike the new BA offense. They ran the ball behind that pathetic OL right down the Dolphins throat and with a backup guard in Ramon Foster. The Steelers would be CRAZY to let Colon go….and they just paid Max Starks a boatload of money last year. C is the weakest link on the line and they aren’t drafting a C with the 17th pick.

by baabaablacksheep on Jan 20, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Not gonna draft a center, they have 5 either on the team, PS, or on IR...

I for one think they are going to go OL and grab Lupati if he’s still there. Remember, the Steelers draft the best talent available, not for need.

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 20, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He said "they aren't drafting a center"

with the 17th.

baabaa, I relate to your frustration. Your points are valid. There is a bet from another member that if Spiller is our #1 pick, he will eat his terrible towel with some Heinz catsup.

I’m with you. I have said before that the Steelers first 3 or even 4 picks should be on the defensive side of the ball. With the exception of TE, and some OL depth, the Steelers are stacked on O. OL depth and TEs can be found in later rounds.

This draft needs to be defensive otherwise it will be offensive.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And we're picking 11th

You heard it here first.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

you're right

that’s the first I heard of that

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 20, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a premonition

I think the steelers will trade up to get the player they want. I don’t know who that player is, perhaps one of the alleged stud NTs or perhaps the FS everyone is so high on. But, I don’t think the Steelers are going to go after their guy this year. They’ve done it in the past for Troy and Tone so it is not out of the question. I keep reading that there a 60 some odd “5-star” players in this draft so maybe they stay put at 18 and 50 but I just have gut feeling.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

* I do think they'll go after their guy

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Especially if a guy like Rolando McClain falls out the top ten. I wouldn’t be surprise to see a trade coming soon after that, and I wet my pants.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 20, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me know where you are watching the draft

so I can stay away from you! HA!

Seriously though, that top ten is the magic threshold that I don’t believe the Steelers would trade into. Would have to part with way too much to do that. So, yes, I expect the Steelers to try and get into the 11 spot because top 10 talent is going to be there at that time and not at 18.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 20, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll probably watch it at home

I might just run the the bathroom if they trade up and McClain is still on the board

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 21, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

:P

great minds think alike right

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Jan 21, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

If that is what it takes

to get a FS that can run and cover, I’ll go for it.

(cough cough) Earl Thomas!

He’s better than Isaac Redman and Lecharles Bentley rolled into one, at only a fraction of the size.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 20, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I like you. you think like me

At least on the o-line part. Hartwig is okay, but a dominant center would do wonders for the run game and yes he is the weakest link

by TrueSteelerForLife on Jan 20, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

All the value in the 1st round will be o-line

one of those big tackles will drop. or we trade down and pick a 1st/2nd C or G type.

We can’t run the ball. We can’t run screens. We need some actual linemen.

There’s no DB’s or LB’s projected to be worth the value at 18. Offensive skill positions shouldn’t be on the table. That leaves OL or DL and I’d be happy with either.

Plenty of corners and lots of safeties in rounds 2-4.

I’d like to see:

1: OL / DL
2: IOL / CB / S
3: S / CB / RB
4: S / CB / RB / OL / OLB
5: TE / RB / OL / DL / ILB / OLB

and later rounds just take flyers on guys

by syrsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

values at #1

according to a lot of projections here’s the value at 1

OT – probably 2 of the top5 left
OG – Iupati
OC – Pouncey but he’s a reach.
DE – Maybe Odrick left here, Graham from MICH.
OLB – Kindle
ILB – Spikes might drop
S – Earl Thomas, Mays might slide.
NT – Dan williams/Cody
CB – Patrick Robinson

I’m actually the Patrick on Drafttek so those are my comments. The computer picks the needs based on the inputs you give it.

OL is a step down needs wise from a lot of defensive positions basically because they’re returning the whole lot of them and nobody has really lost a step. The simulation picks here BPA with little reach for OL. (P4 I think) I personally think we should pick one OL guy in the first two or three rounds.

The defensive positions of ILB, S, NT, CB all have needs based on one or more of : UFA status, players getting old and players not cutting it. These positions are P3 (want to fill with starter level talent) on the simulator which means the computer will look there before P4 and reach a little bit.

by Steely McSmash on Jan 22, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Graham...

He’d be an OLB in the 3-4 a la LaMarr Woodley, correct? He’s about the same size, maybe a little bigger I thought.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Patrick Robinson is like the 5th best corner in the draft

A guy you should be looking up is Donovan Warren from Michigan. Could be a first rounder if his combine is good.

And I’m fairly convinced that a lot of people here have not seen Mays play before. If you did you would know this guy has no place in our secondary. We already can’t cover anybody as it is.

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 22, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of talk of Mays moving to LB now, I expect that talk to increase.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 22, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be mad @ having Spiller in Black & Gold...

I’d be shocked if we did pick him, but I damn sure wouldn’t mind come July.
He could be what Percy Harvin was to the Vikings this season.
We could let Parker go & trade Logan while his value is still reasonably high.
Plus we’d have a dynamic backfield for the next 5-10 years.
Like I said, I’d be shocked if we didn’t pick defense in the 1st round.
But if we pick up CJ Spiller in the 1st round & manage a couple steals in the later rounds which I’m sure we will, I’d be ok with the pick.

by Mr 412 on Jan 24, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless they get rid of Arians and his BS game plans,

it won’t matter much who they have playing on the offensive side of the ball. Lack of talent has never been the issue with the Steeler offense. So I think the best we can hope for is to get at least one defensive player (line or backfield) who can step right in and start from day #1. If we can do something about those 4th quarter collapses that killed us in 2009, we’ll have as good a chance as any team in the league. I haven’t been too impressed by any of the teams we’ve seen in the playoffs except for maybe the Saints and Colts.

I hope we don’t waste any good draft picks on offensive positions like RB or WR. Maybe, though, if we have a chance to sign one of the top-3 offensive linemen in the draft. Otherwise, Arians has already proven that, no matter how many great players you give him, he can always find ways to screw it up.

by Billy52 on Jan 20, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

SAFETY

Look for the Steelers to go CB in the 2nd and depth until the 4th maybe Barry Church.

by BANDIT 2770 on Jan 20, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Get ready for Steelers to surprise in the draft!

I don’t see the Steelers picking 18th, as they will either trade up or down in the first round. They have traded up 2 times in the past 6 years—-once for Troy and again for Holmes. I think this is the year to trade down. Drop down and get a 3rd round pick. Unless they have one positively must get player then it makes sense to get another draft pick. It hasn’t been announced yet but they will probably get two compensatory picks in the 3rd round for McFadden and Washington
that they lost last year. So they’d have 6 picks in the first 106 picks. Use them wisely and get some depth on the team. CB, S, DL, OL, LB, and a WR. That Gilyard guy from Cincinnati would look good in black & gold. 4th WR and a kick returner all in one. Just a thought!

by RobMitch on Jan 20, 2010 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

4th wr?? shit...we got limas

that boy a demon on returns too, he can hold and trip and drop

by TrueSteelerForLife on Jan 20, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Fast, tall, can’t catch, sounds like Ben’s dream receiver.

by Phantaskippy on Jan 21, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

bast case scenario for comps

the steelers get a 4th (mcfadden), 5th (washington), and 6th (leftwich)…this is based upon the contracts those players signed and where they would’ve fallen based upon the 2009 comp results

worst case 5th, 5th, and 7th (based upon adamJT13’s early projections)

by t1mmy10 on Jan 20, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And my understanding it

that Compensatory picks can not be used in trades.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Jan 21, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

NFL.com draft

Bucky Brooks had Eric Berry in the mid teens. If that actually happens, I would kill for the Steelers to trade up and grab him. But that’s the first time I’ve seen Berry out of the top 5 in any mock draft. Who knows

by mojo88 on Jan 20, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

The mock is a crock

Like fellow posters before me have already noted, the Steelers never draft who the are “supposed” to. They haven’t drafted for need since the Troy Edwards debacle in 1999 and I don’t suspect that they will in 2010. They will get the best player on the board, period. And if it’s somebody that isn’t worth it, they will trade down and even possibly out of the first round. Don’t get enamored with another high pick skill position player this year. That group is pretty solid imho. What the Steelers need is the fat, ugly guys in the trenches and we all know that. Hopefully there will be more Ramon Fosters and not AQ Shipley’s.

by Will Evil on Jan 20, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

The Holmes pick

was need pick. The Steelers had Hines and Wilson as there starting WR’s. They liked Holmes enough to move up in the draft. Every pick is a need pick, just some are more valuable then others. The Steelers under Colbert have had great 1st round draft picks. He doesn’t waste 1st round draft picks for what the press or fans call a need. Where some of us fans and the press can only see this there or next year, he has to have 5 year plan

by SteelBuckeye on Jan 20, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree that colbert has a five year plan . . .

 . . . regretfully, arians has a five tight end plan as well . . .

by VIN K on Jan 21, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw every snap

What we need in order:

A legit playmaking corner:

I say playmaking because the shutdown corner takes years to develop that name. We need a playmaking corner – but he is one who will have trouble early in our scheme. We need a corner we can put on an island and allow him to go 1-1 outside. Anyone who watched this year knows we had exactly 0, yes 0 interceptions, from our 5 active CB through 16 weeks. The Townsend (nickel coverage, but what a pick) and Taylor (week 17 game/terrible draft pick sealing) interceptions both occured in what now (and was expected the second the Colts benched their team home vs. NYJ – something I will address later) are deemed insignificant games. But I don’t see them that way. The fact we waited that long for a team that is accustom to forcing turnovers is a major problem.

This is a very proud franchise and I was foolish for rooting for draft position on that dreaded Thursday @ Clev. My actions, Lawrence Timmons pursuit angle on Cribbs 3rd-3 37 yard gain on clev own 33 in the 2nd Q, and Joe Burnetts easy int for the win in the 4th jinxed the game and ultimately our season. This game is the one I point too when I look back at this gross season.

In Ben We Trust,
BG

by Glennon on Jan 20, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

We have a shutdown corner

He just has hands of stone.

I think we wait to see what the two corners we drafted last year perform. Burnett is supposed to be a playmaker.

I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Jan 21, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

he's contract is up after next year

and the thing i noticed about Ike is he can have an amazing year, but hes gonna have that one game every year when he just stinks it up

by TrueSteelerForLife on Jan 23, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i think Earl Thomas would be an interesting pick just depends on how we handle tyrone and clark.

Pow Right In The Kisser!

by Cutch is the chosen one! on Jan 20, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

He's a Sophomore

any record of the steelers picking someone so young?

by Steely McSmash on Jan 22, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

or trade up for eric berry haha god troy and him would be amazing.

Pow Right In The Kisser!

by Cutch is the chosen one! on Jan 20, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Berry and Troy together..

 That would almost be Unfair with both of them in our secondary. i dream of that lol

by SteelTownKid08 on Jan 21, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I would rather have someone who can protect Big Ben then another not-every-down running back. Just my 2c.

by Justin Azevedo on Jan 21, 2010 6:31 AM EST reply actions  

I hope the Browns pick......

their noses

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Nope,

the greens.

I just watched the Kevin Colbert interview, and he said (predictably, I suppose) that a) the Steelers don’t focus on a position or draft for need, they draft for talent, and b) at this point the draft is unusually strong in defensive players. He also declined (also predictably) to prioritize the UFAs on the roster at this point.

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 21, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Lime greens?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 23, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

If..

If Cody is available from bama then you have to draft him right? Say spiller if available at that spot and so is Cody or another top player like idk taylor mays or something of that nature, who would you pick ? I would deff give my vote for cody

by SteelTownKid08 on Jan 21, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

I would love to pick between

Mays, Berry, and cody haha

In Ben We Trust,
BG

by Glennon on Jan 21, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You may run like Mays but you hit like $&*$

Sorry I couldn’t resist

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 21, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If we pick Mays

Then we might as well resign Tyrone Carter too.

by StoneColdSteel on Jan 21, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

At least someone got it

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 23, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

got it, but only 1/2 credit

Willie Mays Hayes had to do push ups not sit ups that was Corbin’s character. At least we know the Steelers will never draft someone form the California penal league. That is more of a Raiders things.

by SteelBuckeye on Jan 25, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew what you meant

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell no

I don’t take any of those three.

I want no part of a 2-down lazy unathletic NT in the 1st round. No to Cody.

Taylor Mays “a top player” ?? You’re joking, right? He lacks instincts at a position where they are all important. he’s just a numbers guy not a football player. Leave him to the raiders.

Spiller is tiny. We can find a tiny fast guy somewhere else.

No, I go OL or DL there.

by syrsteelerfan on Jan 21, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Cody

The only thing with not drafting a big nose tackle at some point is that who knows how long will have the big ham in the middle . He only plays 2 downs and if we continue to have that scheme then I would love to have someone a lot younger and have him get some tips this year from big Casey . I’m sure whoever we do get will be the right fit . That’s one thing good about the steelers in recent years in the first round .

In Myron we Trust

by SteelTownKid08 on Jan 21, 2010 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ra'shon Harris should be our next NT

He’s got the height, just lacks the ass. Which can be remedied with a Rex Ryan diet…

"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods

by Steel Spike on Jan 22, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Calling Cody unathletic might be a little unfair...

They say he can dunk a basketball right now, which is crazy. Lazy seems fair to a degree, and 2 down player is spot on, two downs at best, in my opinion.

I think Taylor Mays getting coached up by LeBeau and Tomlin (a former DB’s coach who had John Lynch who was not necesarily the best athlete or cover safety) could be a dangerous talent, but my question would be how long would it take him to be at a level we’d expect of our safety.

I’m not a huge Spiller fan, but I probably haven’t seen enough of him to judge him accurately either.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 22, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

We probably take Cody in the first

because there is no way he falls to us in the 2nd and we will need in the next 2-3 years.
I would be find with Mays in the 3rd round or lower only. But I doubt we draft him. I also doubt he changes. You spend 4 years under Carrol and still play like that?

I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Jan 22, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

on Mays

I don’t want the Steelers to pick him to be clear.

from all I’ve gathered, the guy is an athletic freak, big hitter, physically big and crazy fast for a safety

The knock is that he has bad technique on tackling, is average in coverage, and most importantly in my mind, has not improved much in College.

I’m looking forward to seeing if he slides down the boards some. I’m guessing he’ll be riding high after the combine.

by Steely McSmash on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe a bit like that.

Just saying that he’s gotten by on his physical gifts and has not proven himself to be coachable.

I guess in a sense Anthony Smith is uncoachable since you can’t convince him to not lay out your all-star WR in training camp. I think may’s has a higher ceiling than smith but has a good riak of being a bust.

by Steely McSmash on Jan 24, 2010 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

wrong level

in reply to TrueSteelerForLife

by Steely McSmash on Jan 24, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

So I am thinking

I kinda liked Scout.com’s idea though not necessarily their first choise

1st round OT – maybe Trent Williams or trade down a few for Brian Bulaga

2nd round CB – Dominique Franks

or if a great corner gets to them in 1st then take that corner and get Selvish Caper in 2nd round.

3rd round has FS Kam Chancellor available or wait till 4th and get FS Rob Johnson out of Utah.

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 25, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Any one think they might try and trade for Antonio Cromartie if they cant get a good DB in the draft?

Pow Right In The Kisser!

by Cutch is the chosen one! on Jan 25, 2010 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

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