Random Thoughts on International Games and Expanding the Season
We all know the NFL has a myriad of issues that they are trying to tackle right now, CBA, treatment of former players, treatment of concussions and many more but two that I wanted to focus on today are expanding the NFL season and international games. Now just to state my position on both subjects, I don't really want them to expand the season but I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world either. As for international games, I'm for them as long as they don't negatively affect the players for the remainder of the season or ruin my viewing experience. Now, not that the NFL really cares what I think but here's my thoughts on the easiest and possibly most effective way to accomplish both of these "expansions" in one bold move.
Expand the season by one game but make that one game an international game.
The main benefit of his system is that a 17 game season woudn't water down today's stats as much as an 18 game season and it would make a major statement to the international community that the NFL is serious about expanding it's brand. Another added benefit of this system is that no team would have to lose a home game, something I think all of us Steelers fan are quite passionate about. I've thought about different ways to accomplish this goal and here are the two ideas I've come up with:
1.) My first idea is to create an international weekend sometime during the NFL season where every game that weekend is played outside of the US. The league could put some games in Mexico, Canada or maybe even South America to appease us USA fans who need our Sunday football fix, but imagine the world-wide buzz they could create if ten or twelve games were spread all over the place in Europe, Japan, China, Australia or even Africa (I assume there are soccer stadiums that could accommodate right?). The buzz that weekend would create would be monumental in my mind. The biggest problem with this theory is how you work the bye week b/c as of now any team that travels "across the pond" gets a bye week immediately afterward and we can't have more than half the league on a bye at one time. My one real solution to this problem right now is to maybe split up "international weekend" into two separate weekends so that only five or six games are international at one time. That would limit the number of teams that need a bye while still creating some buzz with more than one game at a time.
2.) The second idea is a bit trickier but it basically boils down to one international game every week. That allows for each team to play one international game and you can space out the games so that a different market or country is highlighted every week. The trick again here is how you space out the bye weeks but I think if you made the stipulation that any team that leaves this continent gets a bye week immediately following, then it might work. It would take some massaging of the schedule each year but with a bit more work I think it's possible. The main advantage of this system over the first one is that it keeps the "international buzz" up all season instead of limiting it to one or two weeks a year and if there is a certain market that the NFL is seriously interested in, they could schedule more than one game per season there.
So that's my grand idea. My main goal was to expand the schedule, go international but at the same time, not make it an inconvienance to us fans here in the US. I'm sure we'd all go ballistic if one of the Steelers home games were moved to London or where ever but this system would allow the NFL to kill two birds with one stone without pissing off their already passionate fan base. Thoughts on whether or not this would work or how to improve either idea?
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Frankly, I think both are dumb ideas
Not yours, cgolden, where you try to make lemonade out of lemons, but the general ideas of adding more games and expanding internationally. What the advocates for these call “expanding their market” I’d call “watering down your product” or “forgetting about your core customers.” What’s wrong with having the most compelling sport on American soil, with devoted fans, traditional rivalries, and great, meaningful games on TV every weekend? GM expanded relentlessly too, and we see how that ended.
I also think an additional game or two is probably inevitable because of the owner’s greed and the difficulty of putting a price on something as nebulous as my “watering down” opinion. (All I can really point to is that there were 30-some college football bowl games this year, only a half dozen of which anyone actually watched or cared about.) I predict games overseas will be tried, will fail, and then the idea will be shelved for ten years and then come up again. If there was ANY chance of success, it would come out of something along the lines of your first idea.
Agreed
I’ve travelled a bit and the NFL isn’t going to make it big anywhere else. Europe is not America and vice versa. Soccer is a minor league sport here as ‘gridiron’ is in Europe and elsewhere.
Australia and New Zealand have some club football. NZ is especially into football as compared to many other countries. School kids don’t dream of becoming football players – they have soccer, rugby union, rugby league, gaelic football, Aussie Rules, and many other non-contact sports to play. It’s not part of their culture. We don’t have colonies, so the likelihood of our game catching on is pretty remote.
Japan took a shine to baseball because we rebuilt their nation economically, politically and to some degree culturally ( rich Japanese drink whiskey and Scotch – not sake’). Basketball is an international sport because it is relatively simple to understand, cheap to emulate (no special equipment), has been an Olympic sport for a long time and because it is non-contact. The biggest reason basketball is international is that style is international ie: shoes. Basketball shoes are utilitarian, fashionable and marketable more than the sport itself. Can’t wear a pair of cleats to the high school dance or use a helmet for much else.
Only chance is Canada after the CFL folds.
"Franz" in NoCal
Expansion?
If they expand the schedule, who will be healthy enough to play th playoff games? Already from weeks 12-17, players are dropping like flies. Add 1 or 2 more games, there will be even more injuries.
Since the issue is the preason games, play them in neutral sites. The Steelers could play at State College or in Morgantown if they wanted to stay close by. If they wanted to travel, play at Nebraska, or other major colleges that do not have a pro-team. Those fans would love to watch an NFL game, even a pre-season game. Make it a big deal, have an open practice. If you build it they will come.
by Steeler Nation VA on Jan 22, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions
I'm simply not in favor
of regular season games played outside the continental USA. Pre-season, sure. (Although I kinda like Steeler Nation VA’s of even playing pre-season games in places here in the States where they don’t have an NFL team.)
Expand the season? Sure… add 30 more roster positions for each team so when the real starters get battered, bruised and abused there will be plenty of depth in each position. (How ridiculous.)
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
If both HAD to be done
I’d say go with cgolden’s one international game, except do it in the dead middle of the season and give the whole league it’s bye week the following week.
That’d give everyone time to recover, allow the league to super-hype it’s “World Week”
(or whatever) and it would push the post-season another week closer to Sweeps Week(which is the real reason the NFL now starts later in the fall and keeps pushing into February).
I’d rather not see it happen at all, since the NFL is one of our last “truly American” sports, but change is always inevitable…
Maybe during the all-league bye week
they could have a “Coach Bowl.” I can’t give you all the particulars at this point, but I think that this could be a pretty exciting event. Naturally, no players would be involved – only the coaching staff. They might find it cathartic to go out there and actually tackle someone themselves, and I’m sure that the players at least would be glued to their TV sets…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 23, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
i dont think it's a bad idea
i feel expanding the season by one game isn’t that big of an issue for injuries & this would obviously solve the issue of keeping home games even. the thing i’ve always struggled with is having teams play regular season games in europe or places equally as far. it HAS to affect the game. plus, although the nfl may look at europe & other places to acquire more fans but there is no chance of bringing the nfl to their country. maybe their own nfl-ish league, but a separate league.
personally i like the 17 game schedule, but instead of 16 international games play a lot any stadium capable of hosting nfl teams…as long as the city/town doesnt have an nfl team (as steeler VA suggested). i’d say play that one game, have the owners of the 2 teams agree on what location they want to play (if they want to play in france, mexico, Utah, statecollege, etc.) and have the nfl set it up. where owners compromise to play…now THAT would make it interesting.
and because they’re playing an extra regular season game, give teams an extra bye & cut the preseason games to 3 (cuz that’s all the number of preseason games you really need anyways).
and the 17th game would be against the opposing conference decided just like the “extra” conference games. i like the current system for deciding your opponents, but always thought it’s unfortunate the steelers will only play nfc teams once every 4 years (barring meaningless preseason games or meeting in the super bowl).
so with my idea, steelers would be playing against the Giants next year. the Rooney’s and Mara/Tisch would have a month to agree on a location to play.
There goes the record books that acct a 16 game season
by Steelchamps !! on Jan 22, 2010 11:59 PM EST reply actions
Sadly, the records don't reflect season length, though they should.
Like back when a 14 game season made a 1000yd rusher or receiver a real accomplishment..
How about this?
At the end of the season 12 teams make the playoffs. Instead of starting the playoffs immediately, give them a week off.
The remaining 20 teams play a final game abroad. You could give draft benefits (say winning teams are reranked for the third round or given a sandwich pick).
This system would decrease “lame duck” games where a team has clenched and essentially trots out scrubs for the three final games. In any other system adding another regular season game or two will certainly increase that problem.
Someone might say that there’s a problem with the top seeded teams would be off for two weeks instead of one, but really that means they won’t let up during the season if they know they’re going to be off for two seasons. No more benching Payton in the last two games if they’ve got two off weeks coming up. Honestly, if you take the game time of the Colt players, essentially playing a half of the last two games, then the bye week, they were off for two weeks spread out over the course of three.
Drop one preseason game, start the season earlier and you’ve got an exciting season from start to finish.
The other idea is to spread the 10 international games throughout the playoffs, half before the playoffs start, then the rest during the week before the playoffs. This way you can junk the ProBowl, which I find the most boring thing in the world (I’ve never watched a full game. Honestly, I watch the first Steeler preseason game with more interest).
This would work. Let’s start a petition.
Actually, I like it.
I would go with option 1, however. For option 2, I assume you mean to do half of the international games during the bye after the end of the regular season, and the other half in the bye before the Superbowl. That would mean that the second set of teams have to hang about and keep practicing for an additional 4 weeks, which they might not appreciate. As it is, one of the benefits to a team that doesn’t make the playoff is that they get an extra month of rest.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 23, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
You're right
I just wanted a reason to trash the ProBowl. Apparently, being boring is not enough to get it yanked.
interesting idea, but i still think it’d turn into a preseason game at the end of the season…being played abroad. those 20 teams that send players abroad wouldnt play a player that was injured (no way am i gonna play an injured roethlisberger, keisel, or polamaul just so i can draft 10 spots higher in the 3rd rd). i could also see a lot of teams playing backups to see if they think so-and-so could be starter next year.
Only if we sent Belicheck and Brady to play in Teheran....
…or someplace like that. Against any one of our division rivals.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
I'd love to see Princess Tom go somewhere
like Lebanon, or Jordan by himself. No entourage, bodyguards, anyone. He’d last about as long as a virgin at a GWAR concert…
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Here's a random thought for ya!
I got bored and went poking around other teams sites, and look what I found!

4 years ago today, Seattle was crossed off that list…The Saints could be the next ones crossed off tomorrow….
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Arizona came off last year
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Jan 23, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I thought about that right after I posted this
but figured it was implied that the Saints would still be the next ones after the Cards…
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Jan 23, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Cleveland will never get off that list
Most likely to Never:
Houston
Detroit
Jacksonville
Cleveland
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by John Stephens on Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Houston might surprise everybody in the next couple years...
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Jan 25, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
They say that ever year. They have a giant at the top of their division and two other PO capable contenders in there. First thing they need to do is figure out how to get into the post season.
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by John Stephens on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
True, but the Titans, Steelers, and Jets will only be better next year. That AFC WC window will get even smaller.
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by John Stephens on Jan 25, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
That's assuming we have to settle for WC contention :)
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
My money is already
on the Steelers for #2 seed. Since I never actually bet, I can be as extravagant in my predictions as I like…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 25, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
1st - 4th seed I'd be happy with! :)
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Jan 25, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
In the playoffs
I’ll be happy
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want they bury me upside down, and my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't said this for a few months, but...
with a healthy Troy and Smith I think we get there.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Jan 26, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions

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