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Mark Schlereth rips the NFL on this weeks fines, calls it the "National Hypocrite League"

I used to think Mark Schlereth was kind of a loudmouth Steelers basher when he first started at ESPN.  Over the past few years he's really gained my admiration and respect for his honesty.  This is what he had to say on SportsCenter concerning this week's NFL fines for "dirty" hits, especially towards our own James Harrison:

Former Broncos OL Mark Schlereth Calls NFL "National Hypocrite League"

Absolute truth and respect to Mark Schlereth for telling it like it is.

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The "National Hypocrite League" would be the NHL...

Idaho educations (kidding).

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha, yeah he mentions that.

And says it’s too bad “NHL” is already taken.

by yettibrad on Oct 20, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

D'oh...

See Idaho educations aren’t that bad.

I have always liked Schlereth myself, I think he brings a lot of inside knowledge of the game that many of his colleagues lack, and does it in a way most fans could understand. I wish more analysts were able to discuss x’s and o’s as well as he does. I wish there was a little more depth to what he says, so that should tell you how I feel about the others who offer even less.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

You have Tunch Ilkin. I like his chalk talk show on steelers.com.

Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"

by SteelersChatPack on Oct 22, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

You are most certainly mistaken, he said Willie Colon was the best offensive lineman.

Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"

by SteelersChatPack on Oct 22, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm about 99% sure he said in an interview here...

That the linemen he was most impressed with (at that time of course) was Justin Hartwig.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 22, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I could find the actual article I would post a link...

All I found was this quote from MB:

Tunch Ilkin, on an interview here on BTSC in ’08, said that Hartwig was the guy who had impressed him the most with his play. (link)
I remember the interview, but can’t find it.

If that had changed, I assume it did, that’s cool, things do change. I’m just saying is all.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 22, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Respect for Schlereth

I too respect Schlereth…for what he says, his background in saying it, and how he says it. No fear, passion, truth.

"It's like what they said about the raptor in Jurassic Park - one of us gets your attention, the other one gets you." Greg Lloyd

by EdmontonSteel on Oct 20, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Oct 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like people who obviously love the game. props to mark

by klompus on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow -

lots to think about, from a man who has the right to say it. In re the “Moment of Impact” video, I noticed last season that the montage the NFL played before a game started had a helmet to helmet collision – I think that they at least have removed that…

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 20, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome

rec’d

Hines always tells us he's trying to knock somebody's soul out of their body. - Ike Taylor

by tubway on Oct 20, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Part of the problem

is the league has gotten too big. The NFL doesn’t just cater to the hard core football fans. They cater to the fringe, every day fans too. The females who normally watch the view, the CEO execs who never had the athletic ability to play football in their life and don’t understand what it means to play football, and the journalist who sensationalize everything makes it worse. Since business is all about growing your client base, the NFL wants to convert these people to hard core every day fans. So they figure they can ignore the already hard core fans because they’ll never leave. Will it work? I have no idea but they want the game to be pretty so that everyone will buy into it.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Careful, tannofsteel84...

I’m sure there are quite a few “females and CEO execs” who take exception to your characterizing us as casual NFL fans. Fringe? Really?? Surely you didn’t mean to say that!

I am a diehard fan of fast, hard-hitting, smash-mouth football, and a fan of the Steelers for going on 40 years. And I’m a girl. I could not agree more with Mark Schlereth and all the others on this blog and others across the internet who say the NFL is being ridiculously hypocritical about this whole thing. It angers me a great deal that Harrison was fined at all, and that his fine was higher than the other two. But I feel a little like I’m being held hostage while the double standard-loving NFL execs try to make football safe for everyone. Can’t and shouldn’t be done.

by OhioSteelerFan on Oct 20, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I didn’t categorize all females, that wasn’t my intentions. I guess I should have said, females who’d rather watch the view than the Super Bowl. Sometimes I can be unclear in my writing so please bare with me.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

>bare with me

No I will not get naked with you.

But I will bear with you, if you want.

by Doc Scratch on Oct 21, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really

I was looking forward to it.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

its okay

we can have all the naked parties we want without him

by shleeve on Oct 21, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he's a Bengals fan, so....

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 21, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop insulting females (Me)

I hate the View, I love football, James Harrison is my favorite player. However, I have never played football, so that part of your statement is accurate.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice

I didn’t said all females. I never said all females watch the view. So you can’t make that correlation that I was speaking to all females. And its not an insult. There is nothing wrong with the females who don’t like the violence in the game. If it pleases the moderators, you can delete my comment if I am in the wrong.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was not offended really

It’s pretty hard to get me riled up. But the View is complete crap!

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I’m glad you weren’t offended. I realize that all women don’t watch it. I’ll be more careful with how I phrase things in the future.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to get all politically correct now

We’re all getting snarky and overly PC because of it lately. We are all getting weird lately. I even replied to a troll! I am so ashamed….. LOL!

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

PC

Its not so much about being PC, its about communicating your intended meaning clearly. As a writer my job is to communicate in such a way that the reader can understand what I mean. If I’m not doing that, then I’m not being coherent and thus the point of writing becomes invalid. So I’m not trying to be PC just clear in what I say. :) Remember don’t feed the trolls!

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

But as a reader it’s my job to make an inference. And if I do not understand something, or need elaboration, it’s my job as a reader to seek that if possible. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt until they no longer deserve it.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

+10000

"...and that you can print!.... Jeff Bebe "Almost Famous"

by OhioYinzer on Oct 20, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

amen brother Mark

i agree completely with the hypocrisy – let’s make some noise and gain some PR by fining players and threatening suspensions, but we won’t actually provide support or care for players in their retirement. and oh, by the way – we want to extend the pounding an additional 2 games every season.

but we really do care about you, promise…

by lamarr_the_BEAST! on Oct 20, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

if they actually

 raise 75,000 dollars that would be a shock and really be a surprise, doubt it works.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And when they don't...

Where does that money go anyway? They’re giving right back to those who contribute right? (I’m not on facebook so I can’t read that site.)

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

a similar thing happened here

One of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers was fined and fans raised over $2k last I heard but the player and team said the money would go to charity.

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 20, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nice...

75k is a whole lot more than 2k, which makes me pause. If people are actually giving money to this, then it better go somewhere that it should, and not some guys pocket.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my pocket

PIMP= put-it in my pocket!

by B. M on Oct 20, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fine was a lot less but probably hurt more

Salaries are a lot lower in the CFL. It is still a league where some people try to have 2nd careers going on the side.

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol I'm not putting money into it

until it gets to 50,000 dollars lol

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, good call.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the group description

it says:

I would like EVERY person who likes this page to : Send $1 with a note that says,
“For James Harrison’s fine. Steeler Nation”
to Roger Goodell, c/o National Football League, 280 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10017

by nlevine34 on Oct 20, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be so funny, seeing Goodell's reaction... LOL

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

More curious than anything, couldn’t read it myself.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 21, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The mailperson in NY is gonna need a little help with deliveries. I mailed mine yesterday.

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya if i did this there would be a 3 page long hate speech for Mr. GODell

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Issue

isn’t about having the money to pay the fine, it’s the fine.

by LuvMLB on Oct 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already signed on as a fan of the page

My dollar will go out tomorrow. They probably will not make anywhere close to the 75K but, if Rog gets 20,000 dollars and nasty notes from Steeler Nation, he may start to get a clue. My note will say the same thing as my Facebook status: Why do Peter King, Tony Dungy and a dirtbag like Rodney Harrison get to make the rules for the NFL?

"We don't fix blame; we fix problems." Dick LeBeau, in an interview with Denver Sports Talk radio, March 2009

http://diaryofaplayoffbeard.blogspot.com/

by mantho on Oct 20, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The woman who started the fan page was interviewed on KDKA today

The site already has almost 6,000 fans. Not bad for a couple days and no advertising. If you send money, recommend you mention that Goodell use the cash the NFL made from selling pictures of Deebo to bring down the fine.

"We don't fix blame; we fix problems." Dick LeBeau, in an interview with Denver Sports Talk radio, March 2009

http://diaryofaplayoffbeard.blogspot.com/

by mantho on Oct 20, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

already did…the fine is total b/s! damn you goodel, damn you straight to hell!!!

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Oct 20, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i gave $5 and told godell

to resign. I told him he is ruining football. I asked him why he claims to want to protect the players but he wants to add 2 games to the season? then i asked him why James Harrison’s fine was more then Robinson’s and Merriwether’s when both of their hits were worse and more intentional than Harrison’s hit that looked completely legal because his helmet did not actually hit Mass’s.
I also told him he is the worst commissioner in sports history.

by seton hall and steelers on Oct 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have gone over the 10,000 mark

Just looking at the pictures posted in the albums… wow. If this doesn’t make Deebo feel like he is supported, I don’t know what will.

Steeler Nation is simply incredible. Loved the t-shirt too… “On Ice or Grass we’ll kick your ass. Then we’ll pay the fine”

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was great

I also liked the Steelers Mr. Potato Head holding the cash

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm someone who thinks the NFL usually gets it right ...

however, without question they are screwing this up. My biggest problem here is the fact the NFL doesn’t listen to their own players in regards to this. This seems to be a total knee jerk reaction, and they are blanketing everyone who hits hard into it.

We’ll see how it all shakes out, but the NFL better be really careful not to mess with the product too much.

" Just go and lay your hand on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and then I think you'll finally understand"

" In America" Charlie Daniels Band

by idiscgolftexas on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love his passion when he is talking..

my favorite line was when he said the players should come out next week and play 2 hand touch to see how the NFL would like it.

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Oct 20, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a Grade A rant

That was one of the finest rants i’ve seen in a while. I love the iPad and bringing his mother into it. I mean he really tore the NFL a new one

by Mechem on Oct 21, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see that

if the two sunday night teams made an agreement to play two hand-touch for each team’s first offensive series, that would send quite a message. once touched, the offensive player would have to take a knee to get play stopped. it would take some planning, and a lot of trust in your opponent, but it would be pretty funny.

by theatrain on Oct 21, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

will allen on that dvd cover

that dvd is called moment of impact. $20 in the nfl shop.

interesting: the cover is a shot of current steeler / then buccaneer will allen.

defenseless receiver: check
lead with shoulder to head area: check
NFL makes profit: check

by fajita on Oct 20, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

But not leading with the helmet.

by JustinM on Oct 20, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

the NFL is selling pictures of the hit. The hypocrisy is over-whelming.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

“We regret the mistake,” Aiello said. “The photos will be taken down and we will ensure that no photos of illegal plays will be available again. An outside vendor uses an automated process to post photos for sale to fans. We will fix the process immediately.” (link)

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different pic

Above is a video the NFL sells. Your quote is referencing a picture, which has been removed from the NFL site, of Harrison’s hit in which he was fined $75,000

by LuvMLB on Oct 20, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only after

people pointed it out. Its a PR move they’re still scheming on how to make money off the hits.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

The part where they said “that no photos of illegal plays will be available again” is the most important. The hit pictuerd on that video is not illegal. He’s striking with his shoulder to the chest.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is exactly what Harrison was trying to do to mohamed before he moved down at the last instant

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 20, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 21, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I call BS

lol they knew what they were doing.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point of view as well tannison

by klompus on Oct 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

tannison

I like…

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

“we regret being caught making money off of things we are badmouthing currently. we have ceased, but are keeping all of the money we have made thus far.”

by klompus on Oct 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said before...

What they did before, they did. They can’t take it back now, even if they wanted to.

I think a lot of actors who took tobacco money to advertise a product that causes cancer would be willing to not take that money now, knowing what they now know.

What was done in the past isn’t always acceptable in the present or in to the future. We can point out the lack of caring about it then, and rightfully so, but it shouldn’t take away from what they’re trying to do now.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would, in my mind at least, take away from what they are doing now if they would still be selling those pictures to this day had nobody noticed and said “hey… isn’t that a little different than what you’re saying”

they’ve been saying that they want to make the game safer for a whole year now it seems like. they pulled the pictures this week. the media caught them sticking their hand in the cookie jar so they pulled it out. they aren’t doing this for any moral or legitimate reason

by klompus on Oct 20, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this wasn't in reference to the video that they said this...

It was in direct reference to a picture for sale of Harrison’s hit on either Cribbs or Massequoi. Still, what you say has merit, that’s undeniable.

It also makes me wonder how much NFL propaganda is run through the league for approval prior to release. Not really about this persay, but in general.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

its just all politics. rather disturbing to see a childs game come down to this

by klompus on Oct 20, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can give it back

They could its easy, its called writing a check, or direct deposit.

A lot of actors could give back the money but won’t. Its not that its hard. Its because they don’t want to. Its an heart issue.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you...

I was thinking more in line with the older actors, of the 50’s and what not. Back then they really had no idea what they were doing, and most are probably deceased now, or close to it.

They could however still give it back

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they couldn't

if they’re deceased. Now thats a really heart issue lol get it.. get it… lol ok i’ll stop now…

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The money they made

should go towards Deebo’s fine—or at the very least, the “charity” the fine money will supposedly go to.

by OhioSteelerFan on Oct 20, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And continue to show the hits on ALL replay shows, and post the picture on every website that features a story about H2H hits, etc.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NFL used to celebrate this picture too:


Not so much anymore. Times change, they don’t even let you do the throat slashy anymore (even though that’s not what Bednarik actually did).

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yea I remember that

times have changed and we see the effects of the game back then. It has gotten a lot safer since then, I hope the issues that players faced of that era are already delt with, only time will tell.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I’m hopeful that we will be able to say the same thing you said about that 50 years from now in regards to concussions. Only time will tell.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 20, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that hit on NFL network very recently

part of the top 100 players series.

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gee, I'm so shocked.... NOT!

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 21, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still do

NFL Films used it in their top 100 al-time list. Flashed it up a half dozen or so times. HYPOCRITES!!

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Oct 21, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but if you think about it, when you're dealing with the history of the game...

They showed Deacon Jones’ head slap.

They showed Night Train Lane’s necktie hits.

They showed Fred Biletnikoff’s stick ’em.

These were part of the game. The league won’t (and never should) deny it’s past. This is how the game got to where it is.

But you can’t head slap anymore, and you can’t clothesline players anymore, and you can’t use stick ‘em. Heck, players don’t even go both ways anymore like Concrete Charlie (on the field… on the field, you people). Deacon would be displeased, Night Train would be nettled, Biletnikoff would be bitter. I’m sure they all were, and so is James Harrison. But things change, and you can’t turn your head on safety.

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 21, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

players don’t even go both ways anymore like Concrete Charlie

dang you took our fire from us…..

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 22, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

This post cannot be rec'd enough.

Mark Schlereth hit the nail on the head perfectly. The NFL is beyond out of line. Hits like this have been happening every year since football’s beginning. Now 3 or 4 of these hits happen on one weekend and the NFL s**ts its pants, and can’t believe how violence like this can happen. I’m all for player safety but this crosses the line. Punishing players for playing is, as Schlereth says, “criminal”, and then the NFL turns around and sells it. Truly disgusting.

BTSC Obituaries

OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.

by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Oct 20, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't say it better myself

it has become a trend, since Goodell took over I’ve noticed some clear indications that the game is losing its violent essence. Those roughing the passer penalties have become ridiculous and the hit on a defenseless receiver is a joke (I used to love when after a tipped ball the safety would pound the receiver for going over the middle). This is absurd, at this rate I don’t think it is an overstatement to say we will end up with flag football. Football is a collision sport, it has been like that since its inception, some times stuff like this happens but that’s the nature of the game. Last sunday was just bad luck several guys got injured, but the game has always been like this

by steelermaniac1991 on Oct 20, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Dangerous play has been legislated out of the game since the beginning. Anyone who thinks rules changes for safety reasons is somehow a new and terrible trend doesn’t know the history of the game.

by JustinM on Oct 20, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, I know and I support most of the player safety issues, I just mean that it has gotten way out of hand recently, mainly with the roughing the passer penalties, at some point those hits are just the result of the inertia of the player while going at full speed. Hits and violence are a part of while we love this game, injuries are a part of it, if the point is for no one to get hurt then they should not play football to begin with

by steelermaniac1991 on Oct 20, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the NFL is going to start being played like the pro bowl -- words of James Harrison

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 20, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

the NFL is becoming like softcore Porn! lol.

"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I

by Webslasher81 on Oct 20, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's all about money & liability

+2 games is to make more $ for the league. not covering schlereth current surgery needs saves $ and keeps insurance premiums down and ticket prices down. having less injuries keeps costs down. don’t you think schlereth has thought about suing? the fans and the players, says "oh let us play, we know the danger.’ but they can’t legally indemnify the league. years later, a player can sue based on “the league put me at risk, they knew more about l/t head injuries” and guess what they will win every time. say james harrison is unlucky and goes head down and paralyzes himself from the neck down. don’t you think he would sue the nfl for all he can get? don’t be naive, he will be at the courthouse filing a lawsuit while on the way to the hospital. he will have to, to have any kind of life.

think players can’t win b/c they were warned of the risks. well, tobacco companies warned smokers for years it was dangerous. oh, by the way a few years ago they had to pay $365 billion and stop all future lawsuits, but even now they are still being sued and losing. but in the end guess who pays for it? just ask the ny smoker who pays $11/pack. cigarettes should be $2/pack. are fans willing to pay much more for tickets so the league can offer comprehensive lifetime health care for all the past employees?

don’t you think eric legrand may have to sue rutgers over his lifetime? if he stays paralyzed his costs may be $250k+ per year. gee, the nets donated $75k that should get him thru a few months. not that it wasn’t a great gesture but the costs of long-term medical care can be atronomical.

the law is clear. warning someone of the risks does not really protect you especially if you made $ off them. this is why the league will have to keep adding rules and getting “softer” unless you can change the legal liability.

by kk99 on Nov 2, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt that the NFL is guilty of hypocrisy.

But that doesn’t mean that penalties for helmet-to-helmet shouldn’t be increased and enforced. What it does mean is that the NFL should stop glorifying blatant brutality in the game.

by Billy52 on Oct 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Is this a Bud light commercial?

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 20, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"What it does mean is that the NFL should stop glorifying blatant brutality in the game."

I totally disagree.

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, obviously

I would disagree with you. But mainly I would say that they can’t have it both ways. They can either change the rules/requirements to genuinely make the game safer, and stop with the announcing/dvd/photos etc. that emphasize the brutal side of it, or they can say “that’s what the game is, that’s what people like, and that’s what we’ll give them.” Trying to profit from some people’s enjoyment of the ‘blatant brutality’ out of one side of their mouths while sanctimoniously saying that we have to make the game safer with the other is BS.

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 20, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Add to that, they want to make the game safer, but let’s add 2 more games

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Oct 20, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

+92

And let’s replay all the “greatest hits” ad nauseum on TV and in commericals
And the pictures, let’s post pics of all the hits in the league, especially the most egregious ones.

They really don’t care about the players.
I think the only ones that really care about the players are other players (and coaching staff)

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Hmm, obviously"

You sound like Marge Simpson here when she’s dismayed and makes that groaning noise. It’s a bummer if my loud and strong opinion on this has made you uncomfortable.

I concur that they should always be doing things to enhance player safety, just not with inconsistent rules made to satisfy an ignorant, reactionary media. And not with rules that take away the Steelers’ legitimate competitive advantages that they have enjoyed for decades.

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 21, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they really are concerned about player safety

then they would give guys insurance more than 2 years outside of the league

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah you would think they'd have a pension fund by now no matter how expensive it is

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh that makes me think of a canadian politician

his face was partially paralyzed so he could only speak out of one side. During a campaign he said that he only spoke out of one side of his mouth unlike his opponent who spoke out of both sides of his mouth. It was quite funny. The one side talker won.

(this is not an endorsement of the politician or his views. I just found the incident funny).

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those Canadians are funny

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

some really are

The list doesn’t include Jim Carey I am sorry to say. I think he does for comedy what Celine Dion does for music.

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is this

Celine Dion you speak of? I remember something like it in the late 90s but its fuzzy….. I kid I kid. :)

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canadian Content

One of the drawbacks of Canadian content rules on radio in Canada is that some “popular” entertainers get played way too much. It is as much of an issue now but it was rough in the early days of the rules. One can only hear Anne Murray sing “Snowbird” so many times before you want to pick up an axe and start smashing the radio.

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi there...French Canada...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbaYS0jN6KQ

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 21, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

grand-mere Rose would have laughed

"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas

"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas

"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas

"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know I did

"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas

"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas

"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas

"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

There has to be a reasonable assumption of risk

Just like with any job. I’ll use mine as an example: I’ve successfully completed 23 years in Veterinary Medicine. For years, I’ve wrestled out of control 100# Labs, feral cats that truly wanted to kill me, evil Dachshunds who snarl, snap and do their level best to bite the hell out of me and a variety of “not MY dog” clients who really believe their dogs’ room-vibrating growl is merely him “talking”.

I’ve been bitten a few times and seriously thought about Hazardous Duty Pay requests…. but the fact of the matter is…. it’s a reasonable expectation that a bite will happen at some point.

It’s no different than the NFL. If you play a contact sport, contact injuries shouldn’t be such a huge surprise. (No Billy, this is not a vote for violence… it is a vote for reality.)

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 21, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vet medicine

I knew a woman who was working on her degree to become a vet. She was playing on going into a large animal practice (horses and cattle) but she claimed she knew she would have to switch after 10 years because her body was going to take such a physical beating. It didn’t stop her. She just knew what the consequences would be and went ahead anyway.

"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas

"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas

"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas

"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that's the truth.

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 22, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have diametrically different opinions

And I’m trying my best to be respectful of yours. Why don’t you do the same?

I don’t need any kind of help from you.

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 21, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No disrespect intended.

But I don’t know what to tell you if you disagree that the NFL should stop glorifying blatant brutality in the game. That’s pretty much what you indicated.

by Billy52 on Oct 21, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

not "pretty much"

I’ll spell it out: the brutality is the best part of the game to me!

Remember the 2008 AFC Title game? That was nuts! To paraphrase Jack Lambert, the game is designed to reward those who hit the hardest.

"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great! Just imagine!

Watch how many flags get thrown this weekend! And watch how many games are going to be meesed up do to the suspensions given out now. This can ruin a super bowl run. Especially since the Steelers are on the way to being Champs for the 7th time.

Harrison- keep up the great job…and turn that ish….up! F-the commish, the refs, and league! Do what you do, and what you were hired to do! They always hate the best…..and hate it even more when your at the top!

Go Steelers -Super Bowl XLV Champs!

by B. M on Oct 20, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Schlereth, my opinion of you continues to grow.

I didn’t know you too well when you played; these days I find you to be refreshing as an analyst, and the passion on the video was terrific. Kudos to you sir, for calling the NFL out.

by dawgs144 on Oct 20, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wish I could rec 10 times

Unfortunately I think his words will fall on deaf ears…

"I was in the right place at the right time. It was zone coverage, and he ran through my zone...That was a good, clean, legal hit. I put my head across the bow. To be honest, I laid off him a little bit. I could have put a lot more into him." -James Harrison on the Massaquoi hit

On the Cribbs hit: "I thought Cribbs was asleep," Harrison said. "A hit like that geeks you up, especially when you find out the guy is not really hurt, he's just sleeping. He's knocked out but he's going to be OK."

by count'em_six on Oct 20, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

This is not new for Schlereth

He has been making similar comment for a couple years now. I have a lot of respect for the guy and his passion. It is so refreshing to see this, rather than a scumbag dweeb like Rodney Harrison, who criticizes the same hits he was famous for making.

"We don't fix blame; we fix problems." Dick LeBeau, in an interview with Denver Sports Talk radio, March 2009

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by mantho on Oct 20, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate Rodney Harrison

He made the game unwatchable. He should be fired from commentating.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

And he’s a name I won’t use here.

I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward

by samliam on Oct 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

does it start with a F

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by WVPiratesfan on Oct 21, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Hes spinning the bullshit just to make headlines and get paid. He was all too proud of the way he played when he played. He knew it too, that was who he was in the NFL. Now hes retired he wants to go all savior on us and try redeem himself of his sins. Get real Rodney

I still believe in you Big Ben. Its not how a man falls, it is how he gets back up again. Bring it home

by Michael Hewitt on Oct 21, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Romanowski

called out Rodney Harrison by name yesterday in a radio interview – the talking head asked about dirty players, and ‘Ski said he couldn’t think of any current ones, but that Rodney was probably the last of the breed. So now Rodney is in the pulpit, preaching sanctimoniously (thanks momma r!) about acts not nearly as flagrant as what he practiced regularly. cha-ching$$

by lamarr_the_BEAST! on Oct 21, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome.

I will be happy to post a multi-syllabic useful word of the week, rather like Simonsen’s German word of the week, if you like : )

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Words like castigate?

or maybe entropic?

"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas

"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas

"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas

"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 22, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

if we're looking for words about the league office,

how about pusillanimous…

"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin

by Rebecca Rollett on Oct 22, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That just sounds dirty...

"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I

by Steel Spike on Oct 22, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure

works for me.

"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas

"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas

"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas

"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 23, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mayock

I have yet to get an answer to the question that Mike Mayock brought up, of why doesn’t the league mandate helmets that are designed to prevent concussions? The helmets are available, yet none of the players who were concussed this past Sunday were wearing them. It’s the players choice as whether to wear them or not. I don’t understand this, if saftey is the priority, and the proven technology exists and is available, why doesn’t the National Fraud League mandate them? If theres a good reason, then fine, but I have yet to hear what that reason is? Anyone know?

"I don't want to see anyone injured, but I'm not opposed to hurting anyone" - James Harrison

by LifelongSteelerFanInVa on Oct 21, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Very likely would open them up to lots of lawsuits

No helmet can prevent, or claim to prevent concussions. If the league mandated a certain helmet and players till got dibilitating concsussions, they could likely sue the league since they made them wear that helmet. The best option for the League is to provide the players enough resources to educate themselves on their own and choose their own helmet accordingly.

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Oct 21, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Mayok

There are indeed helmets that have shown to reduce and/or prevent concussions, and they are available to all players.

"I don't want to see anyone injured, but I'm not opposed to hurting anyone" - James Harrison

by LifelongSteelerFanInVa on Oct 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no helmet that can "prevent" a concussion

That is what you said. Reduce the likelihood, maybe. Prevent, no.

"Successful destination is the pinnacle, make no mistake, but the fun is in the journey." - Tim Gleason

by chewiesteeler on Oct 22, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You need to read again

that is NOT what I said….I said in my original post that they are “designed to prevent concussions” which is 100% correct. As I clearly stated, these are the words of Mayock, and just a bit ago Marcelius Wiley on Mike & Mike said the same thing. Write them and tell them they’re wrong, becuase you say so.

"I don't want to see anyone injured, but I'm not opposed to hurting anyone" - James Harrison

by LifelongSteelerFanInVa on Oct 22, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

My idea is simple

Have the players put their helmets on, then squirt a gallon or two of Great-Stuff to fill in the space!

It’d work I tell ya!

Some people think football is a matter of life and death...I assure you, it's much more serious than that."

-Bill Shanky

by Blitz-burgh on Oct 22, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would think

But Goodell is full of shit and does not care about the players. The only time he “cares” is when the media/fans make a big deal out of an issue (i.e. this past weekend).

"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"

by John Stephens on Oct 22, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Mark Go!

I’d vote for Schlereth for President. He speaks the truth.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Oct 21, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Criminal act fining Harrison, Robinson

Both of those were legal hits and to be fined like they were is criminal, point blank. Deebo plays all out every play, and has made a career of knocking people out. How can you change that? And the NFL wants to go to an expanded 18 game season as well? The NFL players association better stand up and grow a pair or they will get zilch from the new bargaining agreement.

by datruth4life2.0 on Oct 21, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

It seems to me. . .

Like the league is trying to flex their muscle here against the NFLPA leading up to the new CBA talks – 18 game season, players getting ridiculous and uncalled-for fines for otherwise legal hits. You’re absolutely right – the NFLPA has to stand up to this bullshit or they’re absolutely gonna screwed along with the true fans of the game.

by yettibrad on Oct 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Face it

the NFL and the owners have this game down to a science. They know that they aren’t visible for the most part and can get away with being greedy. Most fans are envious against the players because they make so much money. So they already play into the owners and NFL hands. What people don’t understand is, less money for the millionaires means more money for billionaires. Bottom line is, no matter who wins, the fans are getting any money out of it.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for posting this

It was well worth watching

Do we really want to go there?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 21, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Fantastic Rant

Rarely is a rant so cogent and so dead on, with the evidence and experience to prove it. Well done, Mark!

I’d love to know the Rooney’s reaction to this: “Roger, is it OK to play defense anymore?” They’re team players, but he’s making an example of a Steeler every time he wants to make an example, and that hurts the brand.

Can the team wear flag football flags for warmups on Sunday?

by gostevego on Oct 21, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Saw this live

I was watching the NFL network to see their official nonsense party line on the topic and then flipped to ESPN to get a slightly more objective take and shortly heard Schlereth do this bit.

by Steely McSmash on Oct 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Me Too!

It was awesome…Mark ROCKS!!!!

And everything he said is RIGHT on the $$$$.

I’m sending the commish my letter with $6 in it….one for every superbowl win…he can stick then up his retarded butt….no offense meant to the retarded folks out there!

by mouse_of_steel on Oct 21, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him talking about how he has 29 surguries that have been directly releated to football

and the NFL tells him he isn’t injuried enough for the NFL to help pay his medical bills is insane. What is injuried enough Jim Otto who had to have his right leg amputated, 40 surgeries(29 on his knees alone!), almost died on the operating table and has had to fight off three infections due to replacement joints, including one time where he went without a right knee joint for 6 months while waiting for the infection to clear out. Is that injuried enough, what about Mike Webster who couldn’t remember who he was due to the head trauma he suffered during his playing career. What is injuried enough NFL, is Earl Campbell injuried enough, he has to use a wheel chair to get around because his knees are so racked with arthritis.

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by WVPiratesfan on Oct 21, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea that is the part

about this whole thing that makes it such an outrage.

Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.

by tannofsteel84 on Oct 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok but

here is the problem. businesses have to be economically viable. if they paid for all their retirees healthcare they would be bankrupt right now and their health insurance premiums would skyrocket. or maybe they self-insure and that is why they denied mark payment. either way, if we want the nfl to take better care of their retirees then we will have to pay more. are we willing to pay double for tickets and maybe put all nfl games on pay per view to pay for this?

or maybe the players would set aside 10% of their income into a retiree health pool to pay for long-term injuries like marks. either way someone has to pay or they have to make the game safer. if we fans could come up with a better solution then i am sure someone would listen.

by kk99 on Nov 1, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harrison plans on appealing his fine

lets hope justice is done and he gets it appealed

"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." Jack Lambert
"Going after the QB is like playing king of the mountain. When you get the QB, you're on top of the mountain." Joe Greene."I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert. "I'm a steeler fan, you damn well better believe I'm better than you". Yours truly

"I beat rival fans like Woodley beats QBs......With a club!!!!" yours truly

by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Oct 22, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He is appealing it.

Which means it is appealed already.

Reduced instead of appealed?

I have not yet begun to procrastinate.

by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

schlereth also said

mark schlereth said a few very telling things. he said no one from his former teams or the nfl has ever contacted him about his health during retirement. also he said he had 27 surgeries while a player and he now needs more but the nfl said they are not related to his playing in the nfl so they will not pay. really, is this is this a joke? but the nfl has to make this call b/c they cannot afford to pay all these costs b/c healthcare is too costly and it can bankrupt any company, including GM. this is the part of the reason he said the nfl are hypocrites. now, knowing the cost of long-term care for retirees and the information that is coming to light about brain damage, the league is forced to make changes. their insurance companies may have threatened policy increases with this new information. they cannot ignore the risks because they could end up facing the same litigation risk that tobacco companies faced. the risks were known for years but the states finally said, this is bankrupting our state health care funds. so they got their $365 billion pound of flesh. in other words the league could face liability on long-term player health if they are challenged. like it or not with what they are learning about concussions, they are taking a pre-emptive strike.

 imagine if you are a player like mark schlereth but you have dementia so you can’t go on tv, be an analyst and sell green chile. you are broke b/c you can’t work and you never made that much when you played. would you sue the nfl? of course you would and pretty much anyone eles would. today the $ is huge compared to 30 years ago. this is the dillemna and this is why the league will keep watering down the game with more rules and make the game safer. as fans we will not like it but what is the choice for goodell and the league?

the league now has verifiable information on the long-term effects of repeated head injury. this is fact, it does not affect every player the same but nfl retirees are far more likely so suffer brain related disease. it is easy to criticize goodell, but what you do differently? i know it sucks but i don’t think the owners have a choice, they have too much to lose.

by kk99 on Nov 1, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  


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