Steelers Narrowly Edge Dolphins, 23-22, Improve To 5-1: Postgame Quick React
Just win. That's all that matters in the National Football League. The Pittsburgh Steelers did just that in Week 7 with a 23-22 victory against the Miami Dolphins in a highly entertaining and tightly-contested game. To some of my talking points from the win:
* The Steelers just beat a good football team. When I wrote my feature for SB Nation Pittsburgh recently about the Steelers' upcoming tough month of games, I most certainly perceived Miami as a tough out in the quartet of games. What left me most impressed was the play of quarterback Chad Henne. I thought he was outstanding and a bonafide top 10 or so quarterback in this league when he has time to scan the field, set his feet and unleash that big arm of his.
* For those of you who are concerned that the Steelers defense may not be quite what we thought it was, I say just this: perfect offense beats great defense every day of the week, and twice on Sunday. That's not to say the Dolphins' offense was 'perfect' all day, nor that the Steelers' defense was 'great' in Week 7. But on many of Miami's successful passing plays, the Dolphins simply executed efficiently. And when NFL teams do that, there's not too, too much you can do about it. Especially not when you're not harassing the quarterback with pass pressure and forcing him to make quicker decisions than he may like.
* That's exactly what happened - the Dolphins' offensive line did a better job than any team all year against the Steelers in pass protection. Chad Henne was sacked just once all afternoon, a stunt blitz through the A-gap by veteran Larry Foote.
* While we're on the subject of rushing the passer though, how about a Steeler Nation salute to rookie Jason Worilds for a job well done filling in for the injured LaMarr Woodley at left outside linebacker. Worilds didn't finish with a sack, but on at least three occasions he hurried Henne. It's not clear yet how injured Woodley is, but the announcing crew mentioned that Woodley was out with a hamstring injury. We'll see if Woodley can play next week at New Orleans, but if he must sit a week out, at least Worilds proved that he can have an impact pressuring the quarterback. Nice job rook!
* Three more touchdowns from Ben Roethlisberger on Sunday. That gives him six in just two games of action in 2010. Big Ben looks good. Real good. His 53-yard bomb to Mike Wallace was a thing of beauty. I've heard fans question Roethlisberger's ability to throw the deep ball. Not entirely unfounded, but I'd say that Big Ben is far from suspect in that department. In addition to his long hook up with Wallace, Roethlisberger found Hines Ward on a gorgeous 43-yard connection that led to the Steelers' first points of the afternoon.
* As good as Roethlisberger was throwing the football, it was a bit disconcerting to see him fumble the ball three times on Sunday. Big Ben only lost one of them, his first early in the game. His second, which was recovered by Maurkice Pouncey, was the product of him trying to do too much when not a whole lot was there. It's the quintessential Big Ben dilemma. You want him doing what only he can do - making guys miss, keeping plays alive, then creating something out of nothing once the defense has broken down and the play has transformed into sandlot football. It's a slippery slope though and a fine line. We'll see how he adjusts in the weeks to come.
* As for Roethlisberger's third and final fumble, well you all have discussed it in the previous thread. Very, very fortunate stuff for the Steelers. Am I alone in not really loving the play call that had Big Ben running a quarterback draw out of the shotgun on 3rd down and goal from inside the 5? I don't know. Hindsight is most certainly 20/20, but seemed like a great time to call Isaac Redman's number rather than have Roethlisberger, who had fumbled twice previously in the contest, sneak it. Thank goodness it worked out in our favor. I'd be disheartened if I were a Dolphins fan, that's for sure.
* I'm no doctor, but without any insider knowledge at all about the situation, I'll still say that I'm extremely concerned that Aaron Smith might be out for a long period of time. All we know is that Smith sustained an injury to the same arm that has been hampered in recent years by a shoulder and a rotator cuff injury.
* Mewelde Moore! Many of us, myself included, have questioned whether he's worthy of a $2 million dollar cap hit and a hat each week on this team, but on an important 3rd down and 5 from the Miami 43, Bruce Arians dialed up the absolute perfect play call - a slip screen to Moore on a Dolphins' blitz. Moore snagged it out in the right flat, covered the ball with two hands, and rumbled down inside the 15 yard line for a first down.
* Not much of an impact from Troy Polamalu in recent weeks.
* Solid job by Jeffrey Reed today. Nothing noteworthy about his 3-of-3 FG performance necessarily, but it was still a welcomed sight to see him do his job.
* Kudos to Emmanuel Sanders for redeeming himself throughout the game after his early gaffe, a fumble on the opening kickoff that led to a cheap 3 for Miami. Sanders' lone catch was an important 18 yarder on 3rd down. More importantly, it was Sanders' 48-yard kickoff return that set up the Steelers' game-winning FG after the Dolphins took the lead for the first time in the second half late in the fourth quarter.
* Lots to talk about this week - the injury situation, what to think of the vanishing act by the running game, the play of the defense, and many more topics. But for now, we celebrate a 5-1 start to the 2010 season. With the New York Jets idle, the Steelers match them with the NFL's best record through 7 weeks. Just win!
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losing smith really hurts
and I know he is great player but that fact that our run defense is entirely based with him is surprising. I would have thought this would have been addressed.
Also it not a good sign that hood is not ready to fill in the role.
by steeler_in_maryland on Oct 24, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
Our defense is not really entirely based around Aaron Smith. Smith is just one of the best 5-technique DEs in the league. AKA he is great at covering two gaps. We have other guys on our team who can do that, but they just might not have as high of a success rate as Smith. Our run D was still good with Aaron out last year, but the question is how big of an impact this has on our passing game IMO.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 24, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Happy with the W
But there are many questions marks coming out of this game even after the win. I am not a football expert but here are my concerns:
1. Defense. Rush defense, no doubt, still the best. It’s the pass defense which concerns me. Chad Henne might have impressed you, Blitz, but was he that impressive or did the Steelers pass rush/ pass defense make him impressive. Even Colt McCoy had exceeded expectations last week. It seems like opponents have figured out LeBeau with each passing game.
2. Ben and his ability to hold the ball. I think I am gonna have this concern as long as Ben is playing for the Steelers. It might be his strength but his sacks get us out of a good field position and that happens more often than the big plays.
3. Injuries has reared it’s ugly head again! Aaron Smith most likely gone for the season does not bode well for the run defense.
In the end the Steelers are 5-1 and I will take that anytime.
Trust the Chargers and the Bills to choke in the end. Totally ruined me from having a perfect weekend.
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
yes Henne just impressed me
But more so than that, the Fins’ O Line is really good. Parcells spent a few years building it to this point and it’s very, very solid. Still too early to worry about this Steelers’ defense. They still didnt surrender all that much. 6 points gift wrapped by turnovers. Despite giving up 300+ yards of offense, that’s still just 16 points outside of those turnovers. Winning formula. We’ll see.
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by Michael Bean on Oct 24, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm very happy for Mewelde Moore
The return of a productive role for Mewelde Moore was one of the highlights of the day for me. Call me a softie, but Moore won be over in 2008 and I wasn’t ready to give up on him. I don’t want to blame everything on the play calling, because I don’t think that would be fair, but I did feel that he wasn’t being used properly this year. I know that everyone is high on Rashard (and rightly so) and that Redman is a BTSC favorite, but I think that Moore adds a nice facet to our game plan. And he showed that today.
I was ready to give up on him
but I love it when a player proves me wrong on a point like that. I would have liked to see Redman more involved though.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 24, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe MeMo
read all that was said about him on BTSC last week. Great job yesterday but I’m still wondering why we hand it off to him inside the 10 yard line. He’s not big enough for goal line carries. That’s what Redman is for.
My Hat off to Memo as well
I’ve been critical of his value lately.
He did a good job in some clutch situations. Good job by BA to put him in space in the flat. He’s not the best option between the tackles.
by Steely McSmash on Oct 25, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wrong also
I had given up on him and was very critical about it, but I too was glad to be proven wrong. It just goes to show you that we always have someone who will step up their game when we need it. Really hated to see Mendy have a bad game. Also would like to see Redman utilized more. Now I am waiting for Ziggy and Eason to show their worthiness.
whatever
Overpaid high salary
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by Michael Bean on Oct 24, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark the "W"on your schedule
A win against a good AFC team on the road is something to be proud of.
Roethlisberger’s turnovers must decrease, but damn the man can throw the rock.
Areas of concern:
- Injuries. Way more than I want to talk about.
- Running game.
Regarding the call:
- I love the call to #7 on 3rd & goal to win the game. It’s the call I made on the thread. He damn sure should have not lost the ball…..again.
- For Dolphin fans I sympathize with the disastrously convoluted replay call, but without replay that would have been a touch down. Destiny is smiling on the Steelers and you should not fight the universe.
- As can Bean can attest, we’re all going to hear a ration of … from SeaChicken fans whose team suddenly and surprisingly looks like a playoff team in the NFC West. It ain’t my fault the pacnorwest doesn’t produce as many refs as Steeler Country.
I’ll take the “W” and be proud of this team, and hope they straighten things out to get us to 6-2 by the midpoint.
Whatever it takes!
by SteelerInSeattle on Oct 24, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
6-2?
Who are you conceding to? Certainly not the Saints next week.
+1
Especially not after what we saw this weekend
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by John Stephens on Oct 25, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You never know
one week does not correspond to another…
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 25, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Not conceding and sorry if it read that way. I just live in a reality that says you can’t win ’em all and would be proud with a 6-2 record at the half way mark.
Whatever it takes!
by SteelerInSeattle on Oct 25, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
after watching that fumble time and time again
I have to say that it seems like a real possibility that we were the ones who ended up with it. So that could have been a TD. Ben claims he recovered it and he had one of the three hands on the ball that got there first. Make me think that the refs really did do the right thing.
I agree
Ben may well have recovered but it would have been difficult to prove.
"Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world."
Tommy Douglas
"Man can now fly in the air like a bird, swim under the ocean like a fish, he can burrow into the ground like a mole. Now if only he could walk the earth like a man, this would be paradise."
Tommy Douglas
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
Tommy Douglas
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Oct 24, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it was ruled a touchdown on the field, there is no call on a fumble recovery post TD. Nothing to overturn. The decision sucks from a finality point of view, but it is the only ‘decision’ possible in that situation.
Whatever it takes!
by SteelerInSeattle on Oct 24, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
RIGHT CALL WRONG REASON
the play was dead already-called a TD=so idoesnt matter who recovered. Steelers ball at the point of the fumble. FG. D W !!!
Yes and no, b/c lots of Us were screaming: "We, in the redzone, want Mendy and Redman, that not so
so strong block from MeMo was the real cause that put the TD in danger, if in that place had been Redman or Mendy it should be a walking TD for BB, and We just should be cheering BA & BB
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Oct 24, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Legursky Won the game
The Big Legursk may have single headedly won that game. With two Dolphins players with fingers on the ball, Legursky flys in to contest for the ball. It is with that action that everything gets jumbled. You can see he knocks the first fin to touch the ball about 2 yards with his hit so there is no way that he held on to it….Then Ben comes in, so he very well may have gotten the ball. Anyways, Good job Legursky!
That's true
He definately made it hard to determine who got the ball.
by JackLambertfan on Oct 26, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
A win is a win, but the offense didn't come through at crunch time today.
What happened to our offense in the second half today? And what in the heck was Ben doing trying to pitch the football in heavy traffic today? On the fumble at the goal line, he wasn’t even protecting the ball.
They definitely came through in crunch time. Ben marched down the field and got them a field goal to take the lead. The pass blocking was pretty poor today and the line seemed to absolutely lose the push in the run game after the intermission. I’ve felt pretty good about our OL up until this game.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 24, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Coulda swore we still kicked a field goal
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben looked pretty bad
He made some good throws, but when he was bad, he was really really bad. Those 4 weeks out really hurt him.
I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward
you watched the game right? if he plays “bad” every week ill take it.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Ben is Great....
and dumb. In a perfect world he’d be mistake free and the Steelers would roll all day long, but, better to take BB with the good and the bad rather than other options the Steelers were forced to evaluate this year.
by steelerwheeler on Oct 25, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
We barely eked it out. Ben had something to do with that. Same for last week, he cost us. I know he’s great, I just wish he’d play as great as I know he is.
I love being the most-hated guy here. I love beating them while [their fans] are flicking me off. --Hines Ward
He's still rusty
Give him time and each week he will get a little better. Just hope that wee can keep up with our rushing game that we had before he came back. Also, the “O” line is still adjusting to him. We have (3) new linemen who did not play with him last year. I will take a “W” any time or way we can get it. Soon our Offense will get it together and no one will question our ability. Beating the Saints will give us the credibility that we have lacked. No one figured us to be very good this year except the loyal Steeler fans. We have very good subs who are getting better each week as we integrate them in with the starters. Ben is getting his rhythm and timing together. Hopefully Ziggy and Eason will carry on the tradition of Smith and Keisel.
Did any of you almost
blow a gasket when BA called that stupid reverse? I know I did! Took us out of potential fg position. Why not just run forward?
"...and that you can print!.... Jeff Bebe "Almost Famous"
by OhioYinzer on Oct 24, 2010 8:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I really, really, REALLY hated that call.
first off, why are you calling a running play? second, why is it a trick running play that can take you out of field goal range if it goes wrong? third, our reverses only ever get 2 yards! we need a bigger play there!
+1
"In Hoc Signo Vinces!" (With this as your standard, you shall have victory!) -Constantine I
by Webslasher81 on Oct 24, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic Arians
Idiot does stuff like that too often. I’d like to propose a ban on any credit given to Arians, ever. Not hard to have a nice balance of run and pass with the talent the Steelers have at the skill positions and the power on the offensive line. I hope no one ever gives Arians a grade better than D+ again…he just doesn’t deserve better.
“We don’t need no stinking FG at end of first half. Better yet, lets give our oldest, smallest back the ball on first and goal @ the 4 with the game on the line, the Dolphins will be so fooled that they won’t know what to do. Ha”
by steelerwheeler on Oct 25, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
thatst he head coach fault
“"We don’t need no stinking FG at end of first half.
The only thought process I get from that is that you didn’t want to leave any time left for miami and you put all your eggs into one basket….
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 25, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people have said he is getting better or shouldn’t be fired, but stupid plays like that lead me to still say he needs to lose his job. He calls big plays and we score points, but then he turns around and calls bad run plays or screen passes when we are moving the ball that just end up in us losing momentum. The man is just terrible and we need someone new.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Oct 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take
one stupid play, even though I didn’t liek the QB draw, as long as he doesn’t string stupid plays together, no one is perfect.
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 24, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
See, I felt like he strung bad runs back to back multiple times. And it isn’t just that he makes stupid plays, it is that he calls them at important times that handicap us. That reverse in a 20-0 game is one thing, in crunch time to stall a drive in a tight game is another.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Oct 24, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand
his situational playcalling isn’t his strong suit but he has improved… we can chalk this up to a bad game or whatever, he has been so well this season he was bound to make some mistakes
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
situational
BA is terrible in situational calls. We are on the verge of FG range, don’t call a play that takes you 5 yards behind the line. (reminds me of 3rd down last year in KC). Plus, the reverse has not worked yet. Guys are wide open in the secondary every play. Don’t try and be too cute.
Remember guys, part of the D's and whole teams problems today were....
That it was 88 degrees outside today in Miami. Guys were getting pretty hot.
Just putting that out there. Some of the problems we had with the running and lack of effort today can be attributed to the weather.
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He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
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New guy here. Question? Am I right, wrong?
At the same time the fumble occured, the Official gave the TD sign and blew the whistle (play dead) because he thought it was a TD. Play dead, ball loose, ball goes back to offense. Same outcome, but (play blown dead) would sound a whole lot better than (we cann’t figure out who got the ball).
blown whistle on a fumble
A couple years ago, after Denver beat SD after a clearly wrong call (lateral was called an incomplete pass, and SD recovered), they changed the rule so that even if the whistle were blown, if a team clearly recovered a fumble, the whistle would not count. In this case there was no clear evidence as to who recovered, so they couldn’t just give the ball to the other team.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont know how many of you have gone over to the Fins site (Didnt comment, just read their sniping) and seen how big of babies they are. WOW. I used to have respect for Dolphins fans, but these people are incredible. Mr. Bean, your counterpart over there Matty I. as I think he is called is a joke. I’ve never seen you write anything that contrived on this blog and I am thankful for it. At one point he actually claims that the Refs wanted the Steelers to win so they made it happen. I’m sorry but if the NFL had a conspiracy for the Steelers, why did Ben and Santonio get suspended in the offseason and why didn’t the Refs just say it was a touchdown? If he really wanted to screw the Fins couldnt he have just said there was inconclusive evidence that it was a fumble? Those people are idiots and they (as well as their complaining players) are taking a hard-fought loss and turning it into something that will only make people hate them as a sore-losing team and a whining fanbase.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Oct 24, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
actually
a fair amount of them aren’t blaming the refs.
But every fanbase has their own “unknowlegables” (I think I might have made that word up).
We’d have some of our group complain like they are if the roles were reversed.
I find the people here who make the most comments about how big of babies the other teams fans are, are the very same people who complain the loudest when the call goes against the Steelers.
true, but...
after spending a little more time over there I am seeing some ridiculous comments. Now I’m agreeing with Gimpsta a little bit. Some of them over there are throwing some crazy accusations around.
My favorite: the head ref was born near Pittsburgh……yada yada yada.
He didn’t even make the “bad” call! The line judge called it a TD and that was the only and call there was (and even then that call was a little understandable seeing as how his view was partially obscured). The head judge called it by the book.
Those are the ones I am annoyed by
Every fanbase complains, but Worldtrip, not sure if your comment was directed at me, kind of out of nowhere if it was since I don’t think I’ve complained about a bad call much here (I tend to internalize those thoughts) but these are especially bad. Complaining is one thing, the head moderator and other main contributors accusing the NFL and the Refs of rigging the game in the Steelers’ favor is another…
by Michael Uhlhorn on Oct 24, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It was not directed at you at all. Sorry it came across that way. I do feel though that is often the case. I also think that people who troll the most get pissed the most when we get trolled.
Nevertheless, I do agree that the head guy saying the refs wanted to steelers to win, and comments of those nature to be ridicules. However, I have tremendous sympathy for their frustrations. The side judge calling that a touchdown without actually seeing the ball cross was a pretty bad call. I’m not sure the last time the Steelers were hurt from such an egregiously wrong call.
I would say the Troy INT during the Colts playoff game
but we were good enough to to still win after that. The dolphins are good, but not good enough yet to not let an unlucky break have little effect. Like most people have already stated, the Dolphins did get the ball back with plenty of time and only needing a field goal. They failed to get a single first down.
Also, I wouldnt say the side judge didn’t have any logical reason to make the call. I mean, even from all the views we saw Ben did have his hand on it as he hit the endzone, he just didn’t have control. The judge saw Ben with the ball under him (pretty much). Least thats how I interpret his view.
It is all good
I just wasn’t sure if I had been a loud mouth or something. I don’t want to be that person, so if I am, I’ll try to cut back.
Ya, it was a bad call, I just hate the conspiracy theorists and all.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Oct 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a clear difference in the two blog sites
I read the whole stream of the Phin’s site, and I’d say at least 90% stated that the game/league was “fixed” (a complete joke), and a bunch blamed the head ref because he lived near Pittsburgh (even though he wasn’t the ref that made the touchdown call). I know I’m biased, but there’s seems to be a clear difference in football knowledge between the Miami fans & Steeler fans (not that I’m surprised)
by michaelbro8 on Oct 25, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Yeah, I saw that gimpsta. Comical. ‘The refs decided they wanted the Steelers to win’.
Joke
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by Michael Bean on Oct 25, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Fins Fans
I was reading the report from the Phin Phanatic and he blamed the coaching for losing the game because of the calls made when the Steelers had turnovers deep in their own territory and the fish couldn’t capitalize on it. I have to agree with him. Whatever the call at the end may have been, if the fish had capitalized on at least one of the three blown opportunities the final call would have been a moot point.
In addition; they had plenty of time at the end to make a comeback. All they had to do was get into field goal position with over two minutes left because their kicker was hitting everything. They didn’t do it and deserved to lose based on all the blown opportunities.
Rick Shaffer aka C. R. Lord
by redeemed1 on Oct 25, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone else notice the smirk on the head ref's face
whenever he called a penalty on the Steelers?
How about how dejected he looked when he said they couldn’t determine who recovered the football, so he had to give possession to the Steelers at the 1/2 yard line.
I am seriously so sick of only getting the holding calls against us.
I’ll bet you anything Richie Incognito ripped or jerked the hell out of Aaron’s arm on the play he was injured.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
No
I’m trying to act like a Dolphin fan…Not working?
I did get a little fired up when I saw him smirking though, but then I moved on.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
The whole bar noticed it, man
Wasn’t just me. Even though the game was televised here, we still had a good 75 folks show up to watch with us.
"SteelFever gets #93. Just like Ron Artest. Great game just keep an eye on him that he doesn't go into the stands after a fan."
- 5020 on my making the BTSC active (riot) squad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC0NCHq4v3I
I noticed it too
I got pretty mad when on the Dolphins first two drives, two pretty blatant holding penalties were not called (one against Nick Eason, where he literally got ripped down) and then on the first Steelers holding penalty (a legitimate one against Legursky if I remember correctly) the ref was smiling like nobody’s business. But aside from the usual not-called holdings, I thought despite the evil smiles the refs called a pretty fair game… Even though I won’t touch the last call with a ten foot pole.
Damn, I guess this guy didn’t watch the SB against the Seahawks then huh? The refs stole that away from the legitimate winner. Stop your damn whinning about the refs. What we ALL should do is make enough noise to the NFL about ref pay. Cut there pay down to 1/3 of its current level, and then add in incentives for them to call a good, fair game. Afterwards the refs are graded, and if its determined that they did a good job, then an bonus incentive is paid out. By tying the refs to performance incentive contracts, we would be getting more consistent, fairly called games….
I'm really Cleveland Brown Jr's illegitimate son.
And there it is. We all knew this would happened, just expected it to be some dumb Seahawks fan, not a Browns fan.
And you realize the system you just suggest already happens, right? Refs do not just go ungraded and do whatever they want. Every team is graded each weak and those grades base salary and who gets to ref the playoffs or bigger stage games.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 25, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No no
not reality and facts, that disables his whole argument, Why do that to him Johnny boy?
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 25, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a great football game. The players played really well, the refs refused to do there jobs again. Nice fudge up again, by the refs. The TD call was wrong and by not going throught the pile and actually finding out who had the ball, they were wrong again. It takes away from actually beating them – yeah , the we got a “W” crowd will weenie up, but its not really a win when the zebra hands it too you. Go out and EARN it…
This next year after the Union is broken, the refs need to be put on a new pay scale. A small base salary with huge incentives to call it right, if you don’t, you don’t get paid.
I'm really Cleveland Brown Jr's illegitimate son.
And yet the Dolphins had
over 2 minutes left and couldn’t even get a 1st down. They had 3 tries from within our 22 and got 3 FGs. Screw what the refs did correct. The Dolphins could have won and threw it away.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
by Steel in FL on Oct 25, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
wait a second..?
but its not really a win when the zebra hands it too you
You mean are record isn’t 5-1 now? I guess all the website got it wrong….
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Oct 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Give him some slack. Browns fans are not familiar with wins, so I do not expect them to know all the ins and outs.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I coulda sworn
That we still drove down the field with ease to get in position for a winning score. The Dolphins, before and after that controversial call, still had plenty of time and chances to win the game. The call didnt help them, but it didnt cost them either
I still believe in you Big Ben. Its not how a man falls, it is how he gets back up again. Bring it home
by Michael Hewitt on Oct 25, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Phin Phanatic
I was reading the report from the Phin Phanatic and he blamed the coaching for losing the game because of the calls made when the Steelers had turnovers deep in their own territory and the fish couldn’t capitalize on it. I have to agree with him. Whatever the call at the end may have been, if the fish had capitalized on at least one of the three blown opportunities the final call would have been a moot point.
Rick Shaffer aka C. R. Lord
by redeemed1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
In addition; they had plenty of time at the end to make a comeback. They didn’t.
Rick Shaffer aka C. R. Lord
by redeemed1 on Oct 25, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
they should blame their offense
and our defense. Most teams try to establish the running game early on, even against the steelers. And much to my delight our pass coverage was very good overall yesterday which was evidenced by the amount of times Henne had to throw the ball away despite getting good protection. Our defense set the tone after those turnovers and I don’t think their playcalling had that much to do with it
Tomlin and Ben aren't making any excuses.
The post-game press conference made it clear that Tomlin was far less than satisfied with his team’s performance. That’s why he’s a winning coach; he’s not afraid to call out the errors even in a win and go to work on correcting them.
Adam Schefter
just said that the refs absolutely made the right call, its just a bad rule. Once the TD was signaled some players may have stopped playing. Not to mention the kicking ball was on the field by the time the Dolphin player came out with the other football.
It's a tough thing to regulate
They’ve started letting items go and relying on replay to reverse the calls. There’s been a few this year where the opposing QB gets hit in the act of throwing and because the refs rely on replay they pretend they think it’s a fumble. Then James Harrison picks it up and rumbles for a TD injuring a few players in his wake. The challenge flag comes out and all you’ve got is wasted energy and play that doesn’t count.
At some point the refs are fallible and when they declare play to have stopped then play has to stop.
by Chicago Steeler on Oct 25, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why people keep debating this as if I am disagreeing about what happened after the whistle blew.
Again, after the touchdown was called and the play was stopped, it appears the ref did the right thing. Nevertheless the side judge had no business calling that a touchdown. He never saw one, couldn’t have seen one, and shouldn’t have signaled for one. That is all I am saying. I recognize the referees make mistakes. I do think they do a really good job overall. But this one was a really really bad call, and it may have cost the Dolphins the game.
It's like deja' vu all over again.
You keep saying this ….does a tree falling in a forest….
"...and that you can print!.... Jeff Bebe "Almost Famous"
Let's not get carried away
Lots of things besides that play may have cost the Dolphins the game. Getting two free passes to inside our 30 and only scoring 6 points comes to mind. Letting us march all the way down the field late in the 4th is also another good example.
"I'm from Maryland, and no one can beat me!"
by John Stephens on Oct 25, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to add a paragraph saying that I recognize that the Dolphins had other chances, blah blah blah, but I thought that went without saying.
I’ll put it this way. IF the side judge had not called the touchdown and IF the Dolphins had recovered the chances of the Dolphins winning would have gone up dramatically. Which is why I said it MAY have cost the Dolphins the game. It is not the only thing that may have cost them the game, but it was obviously a huge game changer.
And just to add, at least in those other instances the fans can simply look at their team and blame it on or give credit to their team and how they played. In this instance, blame or credit also has to be given to the officials, and that sucks for everybody.
I have to disagree with you a little bit
I can see how he made that TD call. From the side (even the side replay) it looked, at a glance, like Ben may have still had the ball in his position as it crossed the plane. His helmet kinda obscured everything. Ref made a judgment call.
i thought you were saying they shouldn't have blown the whistle when they did.
Which I was arguing is a slippery slope.
But as to should the guy have put his hands up signalling TD? That could have been a mistake.
by Chicago Steeler on Oct 25, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions

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