Explain the Fox Holding Call on the Punt

by The IC Lion on Oct 3, 2010 10:55 PM EDT

Hi All,

One play that's still bothering me is the holding call on Keyaron Fox prior to Baltimore's final drive. To recap, Sepulveda's punt from the endzone was fair caught at midfield by Baltimore, but 10 yards was tacked on to the end of the play because of a holding call against Fox. Two thoughts:

1. As far as I can ever recall, holding calls against the punting team result in a replay of the down. Why not in this case?

2. If Keyaron was in the endzone (possible, but I didn't catch a replay) would/should the call have been a safety?

I was really surprised Tomlin didn't react more to the whole sequence when it was happening. . . thoughts?

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i hadnt even thought about the safety

but i was wondering the same thing about the first one. i guess we kinda got lucky it wasnt called correctly then..

by steel.curtain.number2 on Oct 3, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions

I think we didn't get lucky

I would much rather have the Ravens drive from their own 30 than our 40

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by WVPiratesfan on Oct 4, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Either way the distance needed is still not too different.

Since in that situation a FG wins.

by Roa on Oct 4, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah but they were going into the open end of the stadium

Both kickers had a total of 3 misses and no makes in that direction.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 4, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions

Wondered this myself

When I saw the flag the first thing I thought was if that’s holding in the endzone we are screwed. On the replay it looked as if it was in the endzone and I was confused as to why it wasn’t a safety. Of course I didn’t complain, but I would like to know why also.

by steelersfan4life on Oct 4, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions

whoah good call

why wasn’t that a safety? I feel like it should have been called that way.

However, they more than likely would have went down the field and kicked the field goal to take the league (while using the game clock purposefully) and we may not have even had a shot at the end.

by shleeve on Oct 4, 2010 12:56 AM EDT reply actions

I thought the hold occurred in the field of play. The issue I had with it is, normally they’d tack on yards if possession has changed, but that was clearly before the Ravens caught the ball. My thoughts were it should have been half the distance to the goal and repeat the punt

by mojo88 on Oct 4, 2010 6:17 AM EDT reply actions

My thoughts exactly. . .

I thought you only tack on if possession has changed, unless there is a specific rule about punting from your own endzone

by The IC Lion on Oct 4, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions

IIRC, I read the hold came AFTER the punt

maybe that is why it was not called a safety

Things can always be worse....

by ncmt40 on Oct 4, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions

My understanding

it wouldn’t matter. If the foul occurs in the end zone, it’s a safety.

by mojo88 on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

The hold didnt occur in the endzone

Hence why it wasnt a safety.

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by Michael Hewitt on Oct 5, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions

I get it

Speaking of penalties….. WTF why wasn’t hoer called for false starts?….
He was early on over half of the snaps… No wonder Harrison didn’t record a sack! The league should be sent a tape.

by ALDOG on Oct 5, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions