BTSC Mock Draft Round Up - Two Months To Go Edition
In the same spirit of the mock draft round up done late last month here on BTSC, let's take a look around the web to see what the draft 'gurus' think the Pittsburgh Steelers will do with this April in the 2010 NFL Draft. I tried to use many of the same sites that were referenced in our last round up, if for no other reason than to see how some of them may have altered their picks for the Steelers. It's all in good fun as we try to collectively get a better understanding of all the prospects out there hoping to take their games to the next level.
Let's get started...
Draft Countdown: Mike Iupati, OG - Idaho
The analysis: In recent years the Steelers have drafted with an eye toward the future but after a disappointing post-Super Bowl season in which they missed the playoffs that philosophy might have to change a bit. One area where Pittsburgh could use an upgrade is the offensive line because Ben Roethlisberger got hit way too much and their running game was rather pedestrian in 2009.
Idaho’s Mike Iupati is exactly the type of big, tough, physical blocker that Pittsburgh looks for. A mountain of a man at 6-6 and 330 pounds, Iupati is a mauler in the run game but also pretty athletic and still has considerable upside. With the ability to play either guard or tackle at the next level Iupati would certainly be able to find a home somewhere along the Steeler’s offensive line.
Another option could be Clemson’s C.J. Spiller, who would be a perfect replacement for the aging and injury-prone free agent Willie Parker as the "Lightning" to Rashard Mendenhall’s "Thunder". It appears as though Pittsburgh intends to keep free agents Casey Hampton and Ryan Clark but if either were to leave then a nose tackle (Dan Williams?) or safety (Earl Thomas?) would all of the sudden jump to the top of their list of needs.
Don’t be shocked if the Steelers throw everyone a curveball in round one either as that's been their M.O. on Draft Day the last couple of years.
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Draft Countdown's previous pick: C.J. Spiller, RB - Clemson
NFL.com (Bucky Brooks Mock Draft 2.0): Terrence Cody, DT - Alabama
Read on before casting your vote...
The analysis: Casey Hampton's impending free-agent status makes it imperative the Steelers find a replacement at nose tackle. While Cody's weight may concern some, there is no disputing his ability to control the point of attack in the middle.
Brooks of NFL.com's previous pick: Patrick Robinson, CB, FSU
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Walter Football.com (3 Rounds) - updated 02/23/10: Dan Williams, NT - Tennessee
The analysis: Casey Hampton will be 33 in September. He's still an effective player, but he's not the dynamic force he once was. Hampton is also a free agent, and while he could be franchised, Pittsburgh will be looking for a long-term replacement.
Dan Williams had an incredible Senior Bowl week. He looked great in practice and commanded double teams during the game. He would be a great nose tackle of the future for the Steelers.
Other 2010 NFL Draft Possibilities:
1. Trade Up - The Jaguars can't really afford the No. 10 overall pick, so they'll be desperate to move down. The Steelers, meanwhile, would love to add Rolando McClain to their defense.
2. Earl Thomas, FS - If Ryan Clark isn't re-signed, the Steelers will have a huge hole next to Troy Polamalu.
Round 2: Perrish Cox, CB/KR - Oklahoma State (hate this pick)
Round 3: Jamar Cheney, ILB - Mississippi State (like this pick)
Walter Football's previous 1st Round pick: Earl Thomas, FS - Texas
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Draft Tek (5 rounds) - updated 02/17/10: Anthony Davis, OG - Rutgers
The analysis:
The Steelers don't normally get a chance to draft a top tier tackle. This All-American is a bruising run blocker who will help the team run more consistently. He'd likely start at RG but has the quickness to move to RT in coming years
Round 2: Nate Allen, FS - South Florida
Round 3: Donovan Warren, CB - Michigan
Round 4: Willie Young, OLB - North Carolina State
Round 5: Darryl Sharpton, ILB - Miami
Draft Tek's previous 1st Round pick: Patrick Robinson, CB - Florida State
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Draft Daddy (updated 02/21/10): Dan Williams, NT - Tennessee
The analysis: Williams is high-motor and blue collar, qualities the Steelers want for their defense.
Draft Daddy's previous 1st Round pick: Perrish Cox, CB - Oklahoma State
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NFL Mock Draft King (updated 02/10/10): Earl Thomas, S - Texas
The analysis: The Troy Polamolu loss crushed the defending Super Bowl champs any chance of a repeat. The Steelers gave up a league most 5 leads in the 4th quarter this past season which was the main reason they were on the outside looking in on the post season tournament. With the possibility of Ryan Clark leaving via free agency, look for Pitt to select this ballhawk out of Texas who has the ability to stop the run, with the ability to capitalize on the oppositions mistakes through the air with the ability to take it back to the house. The Steelers could also go with C.J. Spiller here to work with Mendenhall if he slides, or possibly a Receiver as Hines Ward is on his last legs.
NFL Mock Draft King's previous 1st Round pick: Earl Thomas
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The Football Expert (updated 02/04/10): Kyle Wilson, CB - Boise State
The analysis: The Steelers build their team on the offensive line and defensive front seven. They also think long term meaning just because their front five is a weakness does not necessarily make them rush out and draft a player in the first round to "solve" that problem. Championship rosters are not built on plugging rookies in immediately all the time. In this case it appears the tackle class is deep enough for them to take a shot here, but I’m not comfortable with it at this point.
Adding to my consternation, the Steelers just selected two corners in the middle rounds last year. However, Keenan Lewis and Joe Burnett failed to make an impact. This team is built to win right now and if a player who can get on the field as a rookie crosses their path I anticipate them pulling the trigger. An aging by the minute Townsend had to take over for Gay, and both are now free agents which could leave them without anyone reliable to pair with. Maybe I just love the kid’s RV. He knows how to roll right? Seriously, he was a rare standout at the Senior Bowl and just might rise this high.
The Football Expert's previous 1st Round pick: Mike Iupati, OG - Idaho
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The Draft Matters (updated 02/13/10): Patrick Robinson, CB - Florida State
The analysis: With or without Troy Polamalu, the Steelers need another defensive back to help bring this defense together. Ike Taylor hasn't been playing at a very high level and both starting safeties from 2009 are set to hit the free agency (Troy not included). Patrick Robinson made some great plays in the Senior Bowl, but was also suspect at times. He has tons of potential and his hard-hitting nature makes him fit in well the defense in Pittsburgh.
The Draft Matters previous 1st Round pick: Donovan Warren, CB - Michigan
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very impressed with the support for drafting of 0-line and d-line in the first round . . .
unless a stud cornerback or safety falls to the steelers (won’t happen) i’d hope they draft either Iupati or Cody . . . i voted for Cody because the d-line is suddenly old and injury-prone . . . i also wouldn’t be suprised if they traded down as i think the overall talent levels off from the late first round to the third or fourth rounds . . .
Corner back
Corner back in the poll should read Kyle Wilson no Williams. As many guards as they have I don’t think the Steelers will take Iupati unless the Steelers think he could become an O. He has filled in at that position some. MacClain or a Left OT would would be a good possiblity if they did trade up.
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Iupati but
I would be just as happy with Dan Williams. I am started to come around on Earl Thomas being a decent choice as well. MacClain sounds like a great pick but I am worried we would be giving up too much.
Cody sounds like too much of a risk for a 1st round choice. Maybe 2nd round but the staff would really have to be comfortable with him. I would rather we shore up lb or db positions and drafted some other nt who represents less risk later in the draft.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2010 8:15 AM EST reply actions
I agree
I would not want to give up much to trade up for McClain. We don’t need a line backer that bad. One that could be picked in a later round to groom for 1 or 2 years down the road is what we could use. Actually I have the same opinion on NT.
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by steeler junky on Feb 23, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think they will take an OL in the first round
Just a gut feeling
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I’m right with you on that. It just doesn’t seem to fit the mentality of the team, I know fans want a big change and a OL stud to facilitate, but I just don’t think the organization sees it like that.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 23, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
I think you’re right about this coaching staff not caring about being physical, but Rooney did say he wants to be able to run more.
But more importantly the value in the draft could be OL — and steelers always draft value, as they showed in years when they needed OL and drafted differently.
by syrsteelerfan on Feb 23, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they don’t care about being physical, I think they believe they can do it with these guys.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 23, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
ya, shouldnt put words in your mouth
I don’t think this coaching staff cares about not being physical.
by syrsteelerfan on Feb 23, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I agree with you
That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me if they did.
We could easily cut down on sack numbers with a smarter system and telling Ben to throw it away sometimes.
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by John Stephens on Feb 23, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
If not ILB McClain in trade up, then Steelers should trade down
With many people saying this is the deepest draft in years, then I think the Steelers should think seriously about trading down and picking up a couple of more picks. They can easily trade from no. 18 to no. 21 or 22 and pick up two extra prime picks to go with the 9 picks that they should already have (I’m banking the Steelers will get 2 compensatory picks for losing Nate, McFadden, & Leftwich).
They probably won’t draft 11 players, but those extra picks could ensure that the team gets who it wants in the 2nd round. However, if Rolando McClain fall outs out of the top 14 picks, then the Steelers have to think very strongly about getting him. I think he will be an mpact player in the mold of Patrick Willis and will end up being an All-Pro. You don’t pass on difference makers, I don’t care what position they play.
I still like Dan Williams, Iupati, Kyle Wilson, & J. Odrick. If the Steelers can come out of the first round with 1 of those 5 players (including McClain), then I’d be satisfied. It is a good thing that our scouting department knows a lot more about drafting good players than we do.
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It is a good thing that our scouting department knows a lot more about drafting good players than we do.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 23, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
-1
How can the scouts possibly know as much as us? There’s no way they’ve read as much mock drafts as we have.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 23, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I get it!
That’s funny
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Two extra prime picks?
I agree with trading down, but you won’t get much for moving down three or four slots from #18. Maybe a third- or fourth-round pick. What you could do, however, is to use that pick with our second-rounder to trade up in the top of the second round. By moving down in the first round and up in the second, we could be sure to get a very good O-lineman and a very good safety.
I like this...
Yup. We could get just the guys we need, if another team wants to trade picks. Works pretty well for New England. In a trade down in the first, a true to the BPA philosophy pick would be Brandon Lafell. But in the real world, I personally like Donovan Warren as our mid-twenty pick and Cam Thomas as our early-mid second round pick.
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by Concomitandt on Feb 23, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I like this idea
Pouncey @ OC, then a S or ILB.
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McClain is one of the five prospects I mentioned
Don’t want my comment to be construed as us getting one of the four AND McClain in the first round. Thanks.
It is still my opinion
That McClain is the way to go. I would trade up to 10th to get him. We are replacing the leader of our defense here, you must do it with another defensive leader. A guy who is not only strong and has good speed but is smart enough to recognize plays adjust the defense….. sign him up! People have expressed their concerns about his pass defense, all i gotta say it he is probably better at than Farrior right now in his carreer so its still an upgrade. Especially if we have 2 comp picks in the later rounds. You can find a FS in the 2nd round, Nate Allen or Morgan Burnett or even Myron Rolle. I’ll be happy with either one, I think they will be just as good as Earl Thomas. Then with your comp. pick in the 3rd pick up a tackle and try to work him in. I would love to pick up Willie Young as a OLB in the 4th. And not just because He’s about 6’5 248 and can run a 4.5/6/ 40 yard dash but also cause he comes from my favorite college team NC State so I have seen him play a lot. I can tell you there have been some games where he has just taken over, he was the only stable/consistent part of a defense that was oft injured and young. He didn’t have much help around him and you can still see the difference he made. He’ be perfect for out system and hopefully will develop and when James Harrison starts to get old wears down :) he can step in.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
Love for Kyle Wilson
As much as I like Iupati and think we need to upgrade the OL, the secondary still seems like our biggest concern. Piggybacking on daTruth’s idea, I think we’ll be able to trade down a few spots and grab Kyle Wilson from Boise. Man, that guy can cover, and he tackles too (imagine that!). He also seems like he can play right now, which is huge since Willie Gay needs to go back to his nickel role. Then we might be able to package some of the extra picks from the trade down and the compensatory and go up in the 2nd round to grab an OL, LB or DT that we really like. The depth of the draft might give us some flexibility to fill those needs.
p.s. — I like McClain, too, but he’ll be gone by 18 and I wouldn’t trade up for him. Not with the other needs we have…
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by cliff harris is still a punk! on Feb 23, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions
O line
What do we need more than o line? I know the defense coverage needs help, but we drafted two dbs last year, and a top cover corner is not likely to be there in round one. Maybe if one of the top safties is a stud i could see it. D line can likely be filled in later rounds. If a stud o tackle (unlikely) or stud guard/center is there in round one, I say we jump on it. This is a talented team, with a really inconsistent o line.
How the hell did "Mounds" Cody get 81 votes???
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
370 lbs?
While Cody’s weight may concern some, there is no disputing his ability to control the point of attack in the middle.
As long as the point of attack, is not his middle.
"Our O-line is developing, they just don’t show it." From "Buc It" a Bucs fan.
There are other NT's in this league, and coming into it
that don’t have glaring weight problems that will be almost as good without the risk of severe health issues to go along with mounds…
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Once he starts getting those paychecks
He’ll have even more money to spend on food.
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 23, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps you can vote multiple times
if you don’t log in first.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 23, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
With the recent news that
the steelers will franchise Snack, I doubt NT is going to be a first round selection, not with Hoke and Harris back there also. I see the steelers going offensive line and trading back or go ILB and trade up to get mcclain
Steelers football is 60 mins.
I have doubts about McClain
He’s big and fast, but is he quick? Quickness is way more important than pure speed in the NFL. I also don’t know how much better he can get, seeing as he was coached up pretty well by Nick Saban. Is going to be a solid player or a Pro-Bowler? I think he may have already reached his full potential.
I have my eye on both Earl Thomas and Donovan Warren. I have to see what they plan on doing with Casey first.
McClain
Quickness isn’t that important than having the instincts and knowing where to be, if you are in the correct position there is less need for quickness which is why ray lewis has been able to play for so long. McClain is a can’t miss prospect.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 23, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about can't miss prospect
There have many of those and many have missed. I just wonder if he can still get better or if he’s peaked already.
I don’t want a guy in the first round who can’t get that much better than he already is. He’s very, very good, but can he be great?
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 23, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
OoooohhhhhhhLine
I didn’t realize just how good Faneca was until he was gone. We have struggled ever since. I love a nasty D, and do think we need dramatic improvements in the secondary. But, if we can control the line of scrimmage, and do some running in the fourth quarter we won’t put as much pressure on the D-backs. I also don’t like the way we play soft as butter D at the end of the game. The only thing that does is PREVENTS you from winning. Anyway, back to the O-line. If we don’t get a running game, and good protection for Ben, he won’t be able to spell his name in 2 years. We also need to be alittle less predictability with our play calling. We put the O-line and Ben in situations where the defense can pin their ears back, knowing Ben’s going to hold onto the ball. I would love to see a Hall-of-Famer in the O-line. Preferrably at the left tackle, but he will probably be gone by our pick. A full back would also take some of the pressure off of the line. Either way you do it, you have to have more points than the other team. I feel like we don’t keep the offensive pedal to the medal. We are capable of putting up 30 something week in-week out. We also need some nastiness on the special teams.
The only problem with running out the clock with a lead in the 4th
is that would put even more pressure on the d backs, since the opposing team would be forced to throw a lot more than it usually would.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
t4eams with good running games and holes in the secondary still lose leads. Teams with great defenses win close games whether the running game is dominant or not.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 23, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Truth
evidence: Super Bowl 40.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Feb 23, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oops...should read Super Bowl 43...My bad.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Feb 23, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Big Picture
The Steelers have failed to add any real depth in the past 3 drafts. That has to change and it has to change now! I am pretty sure their first round pick will be a good one, as they have a proven track record of success in the first round. But it’s the lower rounds that concern me. I have gone on record here about the player I think would most benefit this current team. And that is the WR/KR from Cincinnati—-Mardy Gilyard. You can’t take him in the first but the Steelers need to find a way to get him in the second round. Why am I so high on Gilyard? Because he instantly becomes a 3 in 1 play-maker. His speed, quickness, and ability to make big plays is what the Steelers need to resurrect the return game. And the thought of him, Ward, Holmes, and Wallace as your 4 WR has to worry every team in the NFL. It’s a steal if the Steelers can find a way to get him. The team then concentrates on getting defensive help and some quality depth. No more of this college mentality where they basically red shirt a draft pick his first year, let him play a bit in the second year, and then hope he pans out in his third year. That way of building a team is old and out-dated. Draft players who can contribute immediately. The mindset MUST change in the organization or I am afraid we will miss the prime years of Big Ben and be a mediocre team at best. Now is the time for a new and fresh approach to how you build and maintain a winning team. Just do it Steelers!
Big Picture
I think RobMitch is right on the money when it comes to the depth and impact of our young players. We need to start getting guys who can step in immediately. All this grooming means nothing when you’re a Superbowl caliber team right now.
Grooming has brought us 2 SB's since 2005
Let’s be realistic. The Steelers don’t purposely draft guys they figure won’t play for the first year or two. Why bother drafting then? They could just take the pick of the undrafted’s after all is said and done. Of course they draft hoping for immediate contributions.
We all know slow and steady wins the race. If they start putting all their eggs in one basket going after hit or miss type players, we’ll fall into the same category as many of the other teams trying to win the SB before the season even starts.
I think it’s pretty crazy to suggest we need to change our drafting ways. Just my HO.
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by count'em_six on Feb 23, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Steelers do occasionally draft players that will have a near immediate impact.
Woodley started in his second year
Yep
It’s certainly happened…
It’s a lot easier said than done to draft immediate impact players. Therein lies the challenge. How many 1st round 1st pick busts have there been?? We’d win the SB every year if all we did was draft immediate impact players.
There’s no guarantee that this Gilyard guy could step in immediately. I said this before, but those type players are a dime a dozen. How many WR’s coming out of college can do PR/KR? All of them! To take a 2nd rounder on something like that when we have other obvious needs is overboard, crazy. I agree with RobMitch that we need depth though (younger at that) – DL and secondary.
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Feb 23, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Actually Haggans started every game that year.
But Woodley did play in 13 games. LINK
I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
that would be his first season.
He started his second.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 23, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I did not see that
never mind.
I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Ben Roethlisberger anyone?
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
His was a fluke
just like Brady’s. The starter went down, the back ups lit it up and never relinquished the starting job.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Feb 24, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
brady
it makes it alot easier to be successful when you know what plays the defense is going to call
by billsteelcity on Feb 25, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
And
when you get rules made for you…“Tuck Rule”
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Feb 25, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't seem to help Drew Bledsoe very much...
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
That's because Bledsoe didn't even know what his own offense was doing
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
HA!
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Feb 25, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Why would we take another WR
When we couldn’t stop the pass or run the ball last year?
Gilyard is good, but he doesn’t solve any of our current problems. We need to address the positions that have players with 1 to 2 years left on their contract.
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 23, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that is a bad argument
If you step away from opinions and personal bias for a team and look at the numbers our biggest holes were the coverage team (fixed pretty much), secondary, depth on D, and too many sacks. Our better attributes were the pass game, the running game (from a Y/A standpoint), and the return game. The draft should be used to fix your biggest problems while keeping BPA in mind.
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Impact player
What we all have to look at is: will the player they draft be able to step on the field this year? Mister Rooney wants these young players to start contributing earlier than they have been. I read into that as, whoever we draft(more so in the first and second rounds) better be able to step in and play(make an impact) this year. We don’t have time to just let these guys just sit around for a year or two. I think Lupati, D. Williams, Cody, or Earl Thomas are all guys that could make an immediate impact on our team THIS year. McClain is another guy who(you would think) could make an immediate impact this year to. Whatever the case may be, think “immediate impact in the first year” when your mulling over who we might pick. I think Lupati or Thomas if we don’t trade up or down.
draft possibilities
I like the pick of Mike Iupati, OG – Idaho because if we can control the clock with a better run game then everything else falls into place…..Big Ben gets sacked/hit less..the defense spends less time on the field so they are fresh and as dominating like when we won SB XLIII. Now I am all for opening up the offense but it does not have to be all the time as we proved during that 5 game loss streak this year!! The draft scenario from DraftTek was intriguing too but that was mostly of Anthony Davis from RU as the 1st pick…..and in my opinion you can never have too many Rutgers players on your team…..GO R U!!!!!
Michigan Duo
Been on the EYEUPATI bandwagon since draft talk started and still think we take him at 18. I love me some #92 but he like most of our D is getting aged and he has a couple or three productive years left. Cant help but to wonder what our D looks like with Graham and Woodley opposite each other for seven or eight years Anybody else feeling this?
Just because he had a quiet year he's old now?
He outplayed Woodley for the majority of the season, except for the latter part of the season. If we pick Graham in the draft it’s most likely to replace Woodley if we are unable to resign him.
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 23, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
just saying
dont want to be in spot ala farrior and have to draft a replacement
by R. on Feb 24, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not feeling oline for the first round
Spiller is tantalizing, but we can’t really afford a luxury pick here. Williams, Wilson, and Thomas all seem very possible, though.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 23, 2010 7:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
steady
I like Iuapati; he does remind of a young Faneca,big and athletic.The only other pick I can see in rd. 1 is possibly trying to move up and get Berry from Tenn., imagine him and Troy roaming around together….SCARY!!! But ,they could easily draft at 18 and get a solid safety in later rds. I agree that Mclain will be a solid NFL backer, but this draft is also backer deep. I see alot of big ten kids that the Steelers could hopefully end up with; either linebacker from PSU would be great, Baluga from Iowa,Wooten from Northwestern,Cordle, Worthington, Coleman from OSU,Graham or Robinson from Mich.I tend to see Big Ten kids going to AFC north teams due to their familiarity with inclement weather and the physical styles.I am very excited about this draft; regardless of who, I think we are gonna end up with some great young players.
Any mock picking Cody in the first round should be disqualified from this list
It’s not happening period, much less for the Steelers.
Dan Williams I’d take happily. Mike Iupati lasting till us would thrill me.
Donovan Warren has major character concerns. He and Cody are DND.
Kyle Wilson can play but I’m not taking a CB that’s shorter than 6 feet at #18, not with the huge receivers in this league now. Also, questions about his physicality against the run.
Earl Thomas only if we think he can play CB. He’s small and can’t tackle, that’s not really what I look for in a safety. Rather have Nate Allen or Chad Jones in late 1 / early 2 or any of the many 2-4 round safeties in this deep draft.
Anthony Davis has no work ethic and takes plays off. Pass. He’ll also be gone.
Brandon Graham could be value; we have no one at OLB if Woodley or Harrison go down.
Agreed completely on all this
Williams and Iupati would be excellent. I have said in the past that, in an ideal world, I would not mind going up and getting McClain, but that has a strong caveat: the other team would really need to want to trade out of the spot for money considerations or whatever (like the Jags, potentially). Otherwise, there is no need to spend money on a top 10 draft pick the year before we might have a rookie cap.
All those talking about Warren, Wilson, or any other CB that is not Haden, sorry I don’t see it. When people say that there is Haden and then everyone else that does not mean we need to get the top of the rest of the group. Odds are at least one of that stack will be there in the 2nd.
As far as Thomas, I honestly do not see too much difference between him and say Chad Jones, whom I love. Value is at S/CB in rounds 2-4 and OT in rounds 1-2. The blanks can be filled in from there.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
The only diffrence between Berry and Thomas
is 1 inch and 3-6 pounds. they are really being seen as 1a and 1b.
I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
well
a) let’s see combine measurements. glad to be wrong, but thomas looks slender on tape.
b) no comparison in terms of how physically they play
by syrsteelerfan on Feb 24, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
They said Troy couldn’t tackle when we drafted him. He gets by with bad form. You can teach a guy to wrap up, you can’t teach a guy to intercept passes.
by Phantaskippy on Feb 24, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't every NFL player "blue collar" by definition
They make a living primarily off their physical labor, not their intellectual output or service. Unless you consider them entertainers, in which case they would be artists and none of them would be “blue collar.”
To me, saying a “blue collar” player fits with the Steelers is like saying an NFL player fits with the NFL.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Feb 24, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions
naw, it's about a certain work ethic and approach to the game
do they bring their best every day? Practice hard, take responsibility for being trained up? Coachable, humble? Physical players who don’t mind mixing it up, taking on blocks?
Or are they primadonnas who think they’re God’s gift to football and play when they want? Who never practice hard and blame others for bad plays, ignore their coaches, and only want to make splash plays instead of the tough physical plays that win games?
Say what you will about last year’s draft, i don’t see a single guy who doesn’t meet that first description.
by syrsteelerfan on Feb 24, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
kyle wilson
i voted for kyle. personally I want brandon graham but he wasnt on the list.

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