The Steelers Interested in LaDainian Tomlinson?
by Michael Bean on Feb 23, 2010 8:52 PM EST
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PrintAccording to ESPN's John Clayton, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin is interested in bringing LaDainian Tomlinson to Pittsburgh. Before I go any further, I'll note that gauging just how interested Tomlin and the Steelers might be is impossible to judge. Why? Because quite frankly, I'm sure just about every coach in the National Football Leauge (save Norvell Turner) has said or would say that they'd love to have a player and locker room presence like LT on their side in 2010. So who knows just how 'interested' Tomlin is.
I would say though that adding a piece like LT would be an outstanding move for the Steelers. Now, I'm usually not one who's interested in Pittsburgh acquiring a 'big name' player who, for any number of reasons, is past his prime, injury prone or too expensive. Larry Johnson for example never intrigued me as a possibility in Pittsburgh.
But LT does. For one, the Steelers are going to need somebody to spell/compliment Rashard Mendenhall. If the Steelers do in fact make a stronger commitment to running the ball next year, then there simply has to be somebody besides Mewelde Moore to hand the ball off to. What about Isaac Redman? Or some late round draft pick or undrafted free agent signing this summer? Those are options, no doubt.
But, in my opinion, Bruce Arians will be much more inclined and likely to make a legitimate commitment to running the football if there were two proven, capable backs in the stable like Mendenhall and LT. If it's some inexperienced option like Redman or an UFA rookie, something tells me Arians puts the ball back in Ben's hands too often.
What about cost? Well on that front, I'm just not sure what to say. I don't know what the market for LT's services will be like. I personally don't think that the 2010 uncapped year will affect the spending of the vast majority of teams; and I also don't think that the few teams who do spend more than would be allowed if there were a cap will spend extravagantly, or said differently, in a New York Yankees-esque type of way that clearly gives them a competitive advantage over the rest of the league.
We'll see. I certainly wouldn't say it's 'likely' or even 'somewhat likely' that LT winds up in the black and gold. But I would gladly welcome him if it did happen. There may be other opportunities out there for LT that would allow him to be a featured back rather than a complimentary option. But if LT wants to win a Super Bowl and wouldn't mind taking on a different role than he's been in his entire career, maybe just maybe he'd entertain an offer from the Steelers.
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I'd be ok with that at the right cost...
The right cost being the reason i don’t think it happens. But maybe, if LT decides he wants a shot at winning a ring… but he’s still so likely to get injured.
That said, I love the idea of him tutoring Mendenhall — there is no back on this team who can do that if Willie leaves.
Even if Willie stays
What can FWP possibly teach Mendenhall? “Run REALLY fast. No, faster…”
If he wants a shot at a ring
He doesn’t really have to leave San Diego to do it (though they certainly come up small in the playoffs). He doesn’t want to take on a lesser role, he wants the opportunity to compete for a starting position. There may not be many teams out there willing to give that chance to an oft injured, declining star. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him resign with San Diego after he finds out that his options on the open market are severely limited. What this does for LT is at least give him the chance to find out for himself.
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by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say he wont take a lesser role, because he has the last 2-3 years. He just
I wouldn’t say he wont take a lesser role, because he has the last 2-3 years. They (SD & LT) are way far apart on what the $ should be. If SD keeps him under the contract they updated after the 08-09 season they pushed the bulk of his money to this coming season, granted it was a bonus heavy contract, which he probably wouldn’t have met most of the requirements, but he was still due to make 6.25 million and that’s WAY to high for a 30 year old RB (just like FWP, and Brian Westbrook)
we'd have to release mewelde moore
moore’s already overpaid and with LT being great out of the backfield moore becomes expendable. i’d also want to bring in another quick guy through the draft (late round, not CJ Spiller) , that would give us a damn good committee
by steel.curtain.number2 on Feb 23, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Moore is healthy
and less expensive than LT would be.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Moore overpaid?
How do you figure Moore is overpaid? Sure last season he didn’t “set and records” by any stretch, but he is still the best all around back we had, and have. Less we forget how huge Moore figured into us winning our last Super Bowl. I’ll take Moore over LT any day (current LT not old LT).
Moore is more durable, has a great work ethic, knows his role, and provides excellent leadership on our team, not too forget he get paid around half of what LT does.
The stats speak for themselves, the last 3 seasons for LT his carries dropped by about 100 yr, yards has dropped 400-450 yds, around 130 yards receiving. Don’t forget he hasn’t been worth a shit in the playoffs since SD lost to the Patriots in the 2006-2007 season.
So he’s too much risk and not enough potential, and I’m pretty sure our front office and the whole organization is going to be a bit gun-shy of signing a F/A 30-ish RB remember the waste of $ Duce Staley? Snag LJ before LT, granted they both are 30, and both coming off of a few crappy seasons, but the leg up for LJ is the fact that LJ was drafted 2 years after LT, plus LJ had to ride behind Priest Holmes for the first two years of his career (played in 6 games rookie year, and 10 in the following). So really, potentially on paper LJ is 3-4 years behind the curve as far as RBs. We need power, even though Mende can play smash mouth, but it wouldn’t hurt to have a backfield of Mendenhall, Moore, L.Johnson, and Redman/ Logan/ Davis/ Vincent/ Summers to tinker with……
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by Michael Bean on Feb 23, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see
LT in the black and gold. He’s a guy I’ve always respected for his locker room presence as much as for his ability. Having him tutoring Mendenhall can only be a good thing
For god sakes No No No!
No LT in Black & Gold. They didn’t give him the boot out of SD cause Sproles can handle the load himself. LT is on a rapid decline. My advice to him is to find a team that has a solid QB and a FB to pave the way. He would do worse in our system than he would back in SD. Same story as FWP. You take away the FB and watch your RB’s numbers decline. There is no advantage to bringing him here. He isn’t a dozer and he isn’t lightning in a bottle. He’s now an average RB. Bring up Redman or draft a solid RB like Spiller. I’m sorry guys but I just don’t want to see this move happen.
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by SoCalSteelerFan on Feb 23, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Agree 462%
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Moore wouldn't be the guy to go if we signed LT -- FWP would
Moore’s the third-down guy and he’s proven himself capable at picking up blitzes and catching the ball out of the backfield. I know LT catches well, but I doubt they’d bring him in to block blitzing linebackers. If he’s coming here, it seems most logical that it’s at FWP’s expense. So I guess the question is this: who would you rather have (at this point in their respective careers) as the compliment to Mendenhall: LT or Willie Parker?
Me? I’d take LT if we could get him for the right price. If BA wants to run all of that zone stuff, LT is the perfect cutback runner for that scheme. Willie has never been a real zone guy. Willie wants to get to the edge and go. Even at age 30 (31?), LT’s probably better for our scheme than FWP is. But only at the right price, of course. Because what this team really needs is depth on defense…
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by cliff harris is still a punk! on Feb 23, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions
It would still be cheaper to sign FWP
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Moore sucks
As a 3rd down back. He was dropping passes last year, blowing assignments, getting trucked. Medenhall is the better 3rd back right now. Better blocker, better receiver, and more fluid after the catch.
I’m more in favor of bringing in a good running back to spell Mendy’s carriers and allow him to be the full-time 3rd down back. Mendy will get like a 60-40 split of 1st/2nd down and 90% of 3rd downs.
Moore
Moore definitely gets overlooked on our team, it can be argued that without him, we don’t win the last SB, let alone make it through the playoffs, he basically carried the team while Parker was on again off again injured, Mende had that broken shoulder, that’s just the actual running the ball part, like you said, 3rd down protection, safety valve out of the backfield, the ability to go down field and catch too.
are you implying that the all-mighty Issac Redman can't spell Mendy
this man can cure the common cold and AIDS at the same time with one hand tied behind his back
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
nonsense
redman can hold the ball with his mind. hands are for pussies
Steelers spend little dough
I think LT would be a nice backup, but only if he comes at low cost. The good thing about LT is that he has so much experience and with much less use, he could regain some power and speed here and there. If they bring in a FB to block, that will help even more. Picking up LT allows the Steelers to focus less on that need via the draft where I think they need help at safety, DL and OL.
For LT to work out he needs to come at low cost….otherwise might as well draft someone who has more upside.
Westbrook...
I forgot about this. I think Westbrook would be even better…but I worry that one big hit to his head and he’ll be toast.
I think signing Westbrook would turn out exactly like the last time we signed a washed up Philly back.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 24, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Living in the Philly area
I have watched Westrbrooks entire career, from his day at Villanova. He is broken down and can’t last a whole season. Last night, the news reported that his knee right now is likely so bad that he wouldn’t pass a physical. He would be expensive to sign and would be a mistake. Draft Draft Draft. Why rent a player for a year or two at such a high cost that may only play 50% of the games.
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by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Im all for it
But I dont think the problem is with what the Steelers can offer, but rather, what other teams will offer.
I think the Steelers can offer him a decent contract, a back up role, and the potential of a championship. Hes a classy player and possibly a hall of famer, I’d love to have him. Hes got versatility so Tomlin and Arians will love that.
However, like I said, i think other teams will offer him a better deal. Someone out there will give him big money, a starting role…………and well, perhaps a shot at a championship (though not any better of a shot than the Steelers can offer).
If Championship is his true goal, then I’d say the Steelers have a good shot at him.
I’d take Westbrook too, sure hes on the decline (LT as well) but we’re not looking at a starter here guys………back-ups on the decline are fine, they turn into mentors (Batch anyone?)
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Or how about FWP?
With LT and Westbrook in free agency, Parker’s chances of landing a starting role this year are looking much worse than they did a week ago. At this rate, we may get him back at a decent rate.
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by SoCalSteelerFan on Feb 24, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
After what he did in Miami, I would like to see him back for at least another season.
Some teams run successful 2 back systems, in which star players get decent play time and good stats. I don’t see why we cant be one of them.
Oh wait….
Arians….
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I'm with Steelfever
He just doesn’t seem to have what made him great anymore. Now he’s just a slightly better then average running back getting older every day.
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i agree...BUT
never underestimate the power of revenge and desire to prove doubters wrong. LT’s going to be hungry to perform this year. I don’t think he can do anything legendary, don’t get me wrong. But he’s not 34 and totally washed up. Just hit 30 and still capable of averaging 4.0+ ypc and catching 40-50 balls.
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by Michael Bean on Feb 24, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
Read Bouchette’s chat today and he thinks that the Steelers will avoid LT and Westbrook and try to sign FWP.
Now all of us suffer from a grass is greener bias. We can’t help but drool at the prospects of a future Hall of Famer coming in and lighting it up in the Burgh. But is it realistic? Do LT or Westbrook have any legs left? The truth is no one knows but LT has had two lousy seasons in a row. Westbrook seemed to be having a good year last year before going down with injury.
One of the big differences that sticks out between him and LT or Westbrook is how few miles he has on him. Willie has about 1300 total touches in his career. Contrast that with about 1700 for Westbrook and over 3400 for LT – in the pros – and FWP’s total lack of touches in college and you get the sense that FWP might have a little bit of football left in his body. He is also a full year younger than either LT or Westbrook.
Is he as talented as either of those guys? No. But at this stage I wonder if he doesn’t have the most chance of contributing.
by SteelerBuddha on Feb 24, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
completely wrong
LT is the total opposite of steeler football (crying) like a little girl pretty (washed up) sits out of a playoff game cause his ( toe) hurts what wuss please stop it with LT guys please
by steelersfamily7@aol.com on Feb 25, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
The hole in your argument to me is...
LT will want to start. This will only hinder Mendenhall’s development. Now, I have no doubt that LT will perform, but I just dunno if I see him as a fit for Pittsburgh.
Did anyone else notice that after Lorenzo Neal left
LT’s production dropped? Hmmm…Maybe utilizing a good FB does a great RB make…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 24, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
If he's better than Franklin Summers, I'm all for it
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by Steel Spike on Feb 24, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
With insults like that
I understand why he doesn’t read it
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
he may start to think FB is his nick name
hard to find the name Arians without “FB” somewhere in there, ironic actually
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
This LT
Will be after he retires.
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Please do
Would just make it easier to stop your already average rushing attack.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Average?
Thanks, I take that as a compliment.
Redman Redman Redman
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 9:02 AM EST reply actions
Such a bad idea
FWP ran better than Tomlinson in the last half of last year in his limited work, he is already a Steeler, he has less mileage, and he will be cheaper. Tomlinson will not be a leader in a locker room with James Farrior, Hines Ward, etc. There is no upside to Tomlinson unless you think he still has “it,” and it seems no one believes he does.
Not to mention FWP’s past two seasons were injury plagued. There is at least a hope that he still has “it” but was never fully healthy.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Feb 24, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions
Interesting Possibility Blitz
but I don’t think it will happen. As stated above, if LT was looking for a Championship and a caddy role he would come here for small $$$. But someone will give him a better contract with a shot to start and he will take it.
The Steelers will need a RB to back up and spell 34 next year. Will that be FWP? That will depend on the contract offers floating Willie’s way and also the NFL draft. The Steelers will have a RB backing up 34 next year and in between him and MeMo. Question is who?
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
It's been shown...
that you can find good RB’s late in the draft,and as rookie free agents. All RB’s have a definate shelf life in the NFL. Only so many touches.
I believe that a back like Redman,who is young,has good size,and seemingly decent speed needs a legit shot to show that he can contribute behind Mendenhall.
Far better that than a 30+ back with declining numbers(3.3YPC last season),who will be more expensive and has been a bit of a complainer over the last couple seasons.
Mendenhall got a full yard more per carry last year (4.3)
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by Steel Spike on Feb 24, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Is John Kuhn available?
I think this is just a smokescreen anyway. Remember, Tomlin said he was interested in Vick before.
While LT would be a nice change of pace, can he play TE? That is crucial.
the dude abides.
I am hoping that FWP comes back...
I have no interest at all in Tomlinson or Westbrook. I would rather see Parker back and see how Redman develops. Even if FWP moves on, I think we have enough backs to not sign any FA RB’s or spend a single pick on one this year.
Fn A brother
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by chewiesteeler on Feb 24, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
LT yes, Westbrook no.
After reading all the posts and considering the injuries and risk to reward ratio…..LT seems like a better fit ONLY if he is in as a backup and mentor type player for the minimum amount of salary.
Then again, can the Steelers draft someone who could contribute more and be young and have more upside? Yeah.
Sure
If its possible and hes willing to be that guy. By “that guy” I mean be a role player, complimentary back then sure. He might be in his 30’s and unless your Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith your not gonna rush for 1000 plus yards at that age. I don’t think anyone would expect him to. If he’s hungry and wants to win a championship then I can’t think of any players who have a better nose for finding the endzone than Tomilinson does. Plus there’s no off the field issues you have to worry about with him (take notes bengal fans) he’s one the true class guys in today’s NFL.
It’s a shame these guys become throw away players once they hit 30. I hope he finds the right situation be it in Pittsburgh or somewhere else. He deserves to go out a champ much like The Bus did.
This is all fine... but...
Has anyone heard if LT is interested in coming here? For any reason? Are the Steelers one of his choice teams?
My personal opinion on LT is that he seems to be a class act, both on and off the field. Kind of reminds me of The Bus. Remember, him? The guy who gave up a lot of money because he wanted to stay, and retire as a Pittsburgh Steeler. Had his contract reworked to make cap room for younger guys, etc… A true class act. And look what it got him… a Super Bowl Ring…
To me, LT seems like the same sort. I hope so, he’d be a great addition to the B&G even if his role is reduced from what he is accustomed to, he would still be a GREAT mentor for Mendy and Redman… Kharma has a way of getting around…
Westbrook – After the Staley fiasco… I think I’d stear clear and opt for a middle round draft pick.
my .02
I believe at some point
He said he was looking to join a team that is a SB contendor
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
And that he "had a few teams in mind"
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid Move
Why would the Steelers not sign Parker if they were looking for a vet running back? Stupid move if they get rid of Parker and then sign LT then your just in the same situation. Just like last year when Larry Johnson was released the Steelers were interested then and look what happened
I agree with Pete R. Why wouldn’t the Steelers just sign Willie Parker ( of course for the right price). LT’s latest numbers were not too different than Parkers. And, Parker already knows the system. Parker was hurt most of last year, thus the low rushing yards. We have more pressing needs for a “bruiser” to get us those “3rd and short yards”. Can I get some comments on what other people think about Frank Summer’s capability to fill that role. I see no sense in going after LT or Westbrook. Am hoping we can get a replacement for Casey Hampton and send him on his “lazy, fat way”. All we are lacking besides replacing Casey and getting a good coverage hard hitting DB is “wanting to win”.
What A HUGE BIG Mistake That Would Be
Get It Through Ur Head…Steelers BUILD/MAKE Super Stars…We Do NOT AT KNOW TIME EVER Pick Up Has Beens…We HAVE ALL WE Need In Are Running Back Positions…WQe Are Good For Diffinatly 1 More Year In That Position…Find Another Topic TO Discuss
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 24, 2010 7:44 PM EST reply actions
CORRECT
Pete R….Parker Has ATLEAST 1 More GOOD Year Left In Him…
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 24, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 24, 2010 8:05 PM EST reply actions
Where did you learn to jump start a car?
To try and fail may be unacceptable, but failing to try, is accepting failure.
I'm just mad at myself
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by kick him in the head on Feb 26, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't that get annoying?
Having to hit shift and caps lock so often?
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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Read his profile
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i removed the locks and the shift key sticks
time 4 new key board
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 26, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
THe wrong LT
I hear what your’e saying, but your’e wanting the LT from ’06 & ’07. Unfortunately that LT is long gone. If LT had ANY chance of recovering his old form, the Chargers would never let him walk.
Iron City's best move:
bring back FWP at a reduced contract , but with HUGE incentives. And PROMISE the opportunity to start, should he outperform Mendenhall. FWP has thrived his whole career in the: “show me what you can do” environment; he would take it, and the team would be better off.
so true,
but I have a hard time taking the starting role away from RushHard after HE earned it.
Heck, Willie knows that in an Ariens offense, there won’t be enough touches to satisfy two starting HBs.
Nothing Wrong With Competition
Although I believe that Mendenhall will be the starting back – a little bit (or a lot) of competition, would only benefit the team. It should all be a TEAM effort. I think that they both will have a good year. Hope that the “entire” roster feels like that they have a chance to start with more effort exhibited. I like that name for Mendenhall “RushHard” (from so true). It might catch on.
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