How the Recent Running Back Cuts Around the NFL Affect Willie Parker and the Steelers
Heading into this off season Willie Parker was fairly certain that he'd hit the free agent market and there was some thought that he'd be the best and most accomplished running back available in free agency. Parker, on the brink of his 30th birthday and still under the belief that he's a starting running back in this league, was hoping for one final decent pay day from a team looking for a veteran running back but his value may have dropped significantly over the past 48 hours. With similarly aged and much more accomplished veterans LaDainian Tomlinson and Brian Westbrook being cut or released in the past two days, FWP might have dropped from first to third on the wish list of team's looking for running backs. So how will this affect Parker's free agent plans and could this increase his chances of returning to the Steelers?
First we should probably state one assumption: If FWP, LT and Westbrook are healthy heading into next season (Westbrook is a question mark considering his concussion problems last year), they probably each look at themselves starting running backs and they're liking to pursue contracts and playing time guarantees that would reflect that belief. What that means is that we're going to assume that each is looking for a team that's willing to pay them at least four to five million per season (and understandably we're talking about a relatively short contract, possibly even one season) and at least the guarantee that the starting job is theirs to lose heading into training camp.
With that quick assumption stated, I'm left wondering just how many teams in this league could be looking for a 30-something year old running back. While there are probably at least a handful of teams who will enter free agency and the draft with "starting running back" atop their wish list, it'll be interesting to see how the market treats these three backs. Just one year ago we saw three accomplished 30-somethings, Edgerrin James, Warrick Dunn and Deuce McAllister, sit around and wait for calls that simply never came. James finally accepted a part time role with the Seahawks but I'm sure 46 carries in seven games wasn't quite the season he was expecting to have.
If we can use history as any indication, there's a good chance that one or perhaps all three of these guys will have to lower their expectations (both in money and in playing time). With FWP seemingly at the bottom of this totem pole, you've got to wonder how all this affects him. Will he be the first lower his asking price and in turn secure a decent role as a decent team's number two back? If he accepts the idea of taking a part time role would he be more inclined to return the team that he's played for his entire career? Will he simply be stubborn and wait until some team loses their starter to injury during camp or early in the season?
Also, is there anyone who thinks Parker isn't third on this list?
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FWP is probably #1
Everything I have been reading suggests that Westbrook is done (too many concussions) and LT may be very close to done (too many carries) as well. I think FWP has more left in the tank at this point in time though I don’t see him as a primary back anymore. Maybe sharing the load and getting as much as 20-30% of the carries for some team but that is about it.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions
I don't see FWP above LT
I could see the argument for putting him above Brian, but not LT. They are both old and don’t have much in the tank, but at least LT can catch well.
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Willie
I agree Willie would be a great 2 nd back now and should axcept that if he wants to keep playing. As a second back he might be able to play 2 more year.
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Agreed - Parker is 3rd
Sorry FWP, but you aren’t getting the money (or role) you’re hoping for. You have never been a pass-catcher, something LT and Westbrook do well. That’s why they’ve been able to do their thing for so many years. It’s extended their shelf life. You’re a smaller back and when all you can do is run, you break down sooner…as we’ve unfortunately already begun to see. I hope you come to your senses, tuck in your tail and agree to a backup (change of pace) role to Salamander. Here’s hoping.
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Id rather have LT in the back than FWP. But to be sure, I’d love to see a race between the two, just to see. LT can catch though, I think that gives us better options. Can Mendenhall gain some weight/muscle and become a FB…? 5’10, 225.. If he could put on another 15 to 20#, I think he’d be a much more effective hybrid FB.
Mendy at FB
I think you’re the first person to come up with that…and I friggin like it
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind
seeing a two set formation with FWP and Mendy in the backfield
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Can't do that
We are running 3 QBs int he backfield. Ben, Dixon, and God err Jesus Part 2 Tebow. 19-0.
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by John Stephens on Feb 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
is that the new 3rd down play?
instead of our beloved empty backfield
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by kick him in the head on Feb 24, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
In this scenario, we only need one back
because we still have to put 3 WR out there. So turn Mendy into a fullback. I think this gives us a look that no defense will have seen…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 24, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not third
With the new seriousness concerning concussions I think that Westbrook may have a very diffficult time finding work. FWP has more tread on the tires and more potential upside than LT who is have problems staying healthy. (Remember that Willie barely played in college. The main issue with Willie is fragility, not age. Nonetheless, I agree with the assessment that running backs don’t have the same kind of leverage that other players have. Their shelf life is too short and there are too many other quality players that might be available. For example, a Mendenhall-Chester Taylor backfield might work just as well as Mendenhall-Parker.
Thanks Gold. Good timeing on the issue.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Feb 24, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions
I'm starting to wonder if we over estimate the college use or lack there of
While it’s true that Parker was barely used at UNC, that certainly hasn’t stopped him from getting injuries and it doesn’t seem to have extended his professional career. He’s missed seven games in the past two years and his yards per carry has dropped from decent in 2006 to below average each of the past three seasons.
The biggest difference between these three in my mind is that FWP is the only one who’s extremely limited in how he can help a team. At least LT and Westbrook can help in the passing game as well as spell a starter. FWP is only a runner. That’s the biggest reason why he’d be third on my list.
I like your take on this
I would gamble on LT, but not if he wants 4 million. If that’s the case, offer Willie less and keep him, as he knows the Steelers.
I like that LT can catch, and he would also keep people guessing in how he is being used (maybe, depends on BA). To bad we won’t have a FB, …..
I agree - not third
He’s fourth. LT, Westbrook, and Chester Taylor are all ahead of FWP. I can see the argument about Westbrook, but when he’s healthy, he’s the most dangerous weapon of them all.
I’d be surprised if Parker lands as the #1 back anywhere, but I wish him well.
The Fact
Here are there total touches for their careers:
Parker-1337 Touches
Tomlinson-2410 Touches
Westbrook-1734 Touches
Roughly estimating a starting RB gets 300 rush attempts and 50 receptions a year. I would say that a RB is done anywhere from 2000-3000 touches. After that the body is shot. So parker and westbrook have 2-3 seasons left in them as starters if they can stay healthy.
If westbrook gets his head cleared based on this resume I would see him as the #1 choice. #2 is parker and #3 is tomlinson. Again IF healthy westbrook and parker could be the premier back for a team getting 70% of the action. Tomlinson is probably 50% action.
All that being said if the FA market dosn’t go well for parker it would be huge for the steelers to get him back. he knows the system and he could be the best #2 back in the NFL. Think about having parker as a back up for the next 3 years. If you lose your starting RB you can go to parker instead of mewelde. That kind of depth is what a team needs if their looking to the run the ball more (into the playoffs).
This would also save a draft pick to be used to add depth to other posions.
There are many more variables involved besides just touches. How about the size of the back, their running style and injuries and what type of injuries. None of these guys are big backs and all relied on speed and/or shiftiness to become elite runners. Leg injuries have hindered Parker and LT to the point where they can not avoid tacklers any longer. Westbrook has been affected by the head injuries, and quite frankly he should just retire. No team wants a lame duck player that sits out a month for a concussion. If it’s that bad then just retire and quit stealing money.
Tend to agree with madjack....
I also think that,with all due respect,all three of those backs are dreaming if they think that anyone will give them a big payday at this point. Something like an incentive-laden one year contract sounds about right for any of them.
dunno
I can see the browns giving LT a 1 yr deal to see what he’s got left, and I would love to see FWP come back to the Steelers, the value would be huge as a veteran prescence and as someone with the system down.
I think Cleveland stays away from LT
With the way Harrison ran the ball at the end of the year, I don’t think they’ll bring in any “veteran” competition to take his spot away. And I don’t see LT settling just yet for a backup role. I think he goes to Denver, given their usual running back success, and the chance to get at least two cracks at San Diego.
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agreed but
I also think LT stays away from Cleveland. He has stated many times that he wants to win a championship and even he knows thats not in the future for Cleveland. As far as Denver goes, their usual success for running backs was when Shannahan was around and they used the Zone Blocking Scheme. I dont think their gonna have that kind of success like that anymore as McIdiot is changing their scheme which will require more skills on the RB’s part. I truly expect LT to be in New England personally.
by colorado steelhead on Feb 25, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
yea if LT goes to Cleveland then he's a big fat liar
If he wants to win a championship then his list of teams is fairly short and he’ll have to check his ego at the door. There’s one thing that the upper echelon teams teams have in common and that’s that most of them don’t have big holes at running back and even more importantly they don’t pay 30-something vets to fill those holes. The Pats seem to be the only possible exception in my mind.
Willie, Do Not Make A HUGE Carreer Mistake
Accept What The Steelers Will Give U And Stay Put And Just Work Hard…Just Try To Remind Arians Your An Outside Runner And Not Up The Middle….
Steeler Organization, If U Can Keep Parker,,,DO SO
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 24, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions
Disagree
That’s one of the knocks against Willie – that he’s an outside runner, so defenses will stack up the edges when he’s on the field.
The first thing that Bettis tried to teach Parker was how to hit the A gaps and make yardage up the middle. That keeps defenses honest.
Remember the 75 yard TD run in the Superbowl?
The one ran behind a pulling guard outside the right tackle?
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 25, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
but i am never wrong
mendenhall well take over hitting the A gaps and make yardage up the middle
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 26, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
If Arians Gives Willie The Right Plays
Accordin To What He Does Best,(OUTSIDE RUNNING) And U WORk Hard 2010 WILLIe, Your Be Doing Commercials 2011
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by ARM_CHAIR_HEAD_COACH on Feb 24, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions
He's doing commercials now
haven’t you seen sprint???
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 25, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Another point of view
Actually Parker does quite well going off tackle if given the proper plays w/ proper rhythm (SB XL and more recently Miami). These plays usually set up his outside runs (see season opener against Tennessee in 05, his coming out party so to speak.
Bottom line is few teams are successful these days without two really good backs. Petersen and Chester Taylor at Minnesota would be exhibit A. LT was at his back when he was with Hunter(? now with the Falcons). Our problem is that rarely are there enough quality carries available for one back let alone two. If we don’t keep Willie we are going to have to go out find someone like him. Mewelde, God bless him, is a great #3 back. He did a great job as a #2 when Mendenhall was hurt. But that can’t be a permanent state of affairs unless you want to see a whole bunch of people lose their jobs.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Feb 24, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Exactly
Our problem is that rarely are there enough quality carries available for one back let alone two.
That’s why I hope we don’t take a RB early in the draft. Just don’t see the value there, with all our depth needs this year.
To try and then fail, is intensively trying. Failing to try, is accepting failure.
Michael Turner was that other back in SD...
And I completely agree with everything you said.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 25, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Ha...
You figured it out.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 25, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe LT gives the Steelers a discount?
In his press conference he emphasized that by far his #1 goal is to win an NFL championship. Thats all he’s got left to accomplish, besides perhaps a few more records.
Whats the chances of him giving the Steelers a hefty discount, since they are a championship caliber team? (Similar to what Karl Malone did a few years back when he joined the Lakers) LT definitely aint goin to Belicheck’s team.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 24, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions
tough league on RB over 30
I can’t believe the cuts, but it is all a salary thing. I think FWP stays in Pitt and we keep a 2 back attack
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 25, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions
If we get LT
I will be grumpy all next season. Please Kevin don’t pick him up.
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by SoCalSteelerFan on Feb 25, 2010 1:36 AM EST reply actions
FWP
I would like to see FWP back in Pittsburgh but he wants to start and it looks like they are going with Mendenhall so I would say because of that he is gone.
These are some of the teams Parker could sign with that needs a RB: Buflalo, Cleveland, Kansas City, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Seatle, because they need help at other positions they can use their draft choices to fill them and sign Parker for two years with a third year option. Buflalo or Detroit would be the best places for him to sign with because he wants to play and they need the most help.
yeah LT wants a championship now . . .
. . . so his options are limited to about ten teams . . . i’m wondering if he’ll go cheap to the colts . . . possibly the patriots . . . i wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up with the steelers as more of a third down/passing down back (thanks for the memories memo!!!!) . . . LT can teach our backs how to get into the endzone!! . . . having said that, would love to see FWP finish his career in pittsburgh as a 20-30 percent carry guy . . . though i think he wants one last payday before he rides into the sunset . . . unfortunately for FWP, the teams that need a running back are non-playoff teams . . .
Anyone watch his press conference?
Emotional dude. Seems like a legit team player.
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Always has been from what I hear...
Much respect to one of the greats the game has seen.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 25, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I would have to say that i would rather have FWP over all these other guys...
and as far as accomplished goes, I don’t see any of them with any SB rings or the longest run from scrimmage in the SB as their accomplishments. I think Tomlinson has been kind of a whiner the past couple of years and Westbrook is always hurt. FWP ran it good when he finally got healthy this last season. Hope that he warms to the 2nd back role and stays with us.
Steelers should take LeGarrett Blount in the 5th round
I don’t care who he punched, let the next time he hit someone in the mouth be as a player in a Steelers uniform this season. This guy looked great doing the Senior Bowl and should be ready to roll since he doesn’t have a year’s wear and tear on his body after sitting out most of his senior season. The Steelers need a power back to pair with Mendy. I think a backfield of Mendy, Moore, Redman, Tank and Blount is enough to do some damage with.
5 backs?
You think so? What position do we short?
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 25, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Redman and Tank double as FBs
I’d assume
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by John Stephens on Feb 25, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
no running backs before the fifth round this year . . .
unless it’s dan kreider’s little brother . . . (age-wise) . . .
If FWP is smart,and I hope for his ske that he is. Parker played with a future Hall of Famer named Jerome “The Bus” Bettis. The most important thing that Jerome taught Parker was to stay loyal and good things will happen. Bettis took a pay cut and a reduced role to retire with the team that he made a name with. So Willie wise up and think of what your elders have showed you.
Don't let (way) past events deceive you as to the present
FWP has taken many fewer hits than both of these guys. Also, FWP was always faster than these guys. You lose a step as you age, but FWP still has NFL caliber speed. If LT or Westbrook lose a step, they may be too slow, regardless of their other abilities.
But the main thing I care about is the recent past. The last half of last season, FWP posted a better YPC average than Mendy. From Week 10 on, it wasn’t even close. Granted, FWP may not put up those numbers with a full workload, but they show he can still play. Neither LT nor Westbrook were showing those same flashes so recently.
FWP has had some injury problems that have slowed him the past two years, but both those injuries (turf toe and broken leg) are injuries that can heal fully, unlike other degenerative injuries (like concussions and knee/ankle problems).
by CarlWeathersMustache on Feb 25, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions

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