except worded infinitely better

he’ll have sucess he maybe doing moronic things off the field but he’s still an awesome qb.I myself think that this is all arians fault somehow his stupidity must be rubbing off on ben. this isn’t like the sweed situation where he hasnt proven himself and may go on too a great future elsewhere. hey blitz you mentioned the thing in nevada as being cleared up now. is it over I hadn’t heard about that I thought it was still in the court system??

Love Ben on the field and wouldn’t want any other QB in the league leading our team. But that said, I can only take so much of this. One of the things I love about being a Steelers fan is that we don’t have much “stupid drama” like Dallas, Cincy, et al. I would think the Rooneys will have a “come to Jesus” meeting with Ben and let him know that, $100 million contract or not, this stops NOW.

and not to sharp-shoot you Blitz but “irregardless” is not a word, sorry but it’s my pet peeve.

I love the media types who are saying “what was he doing at a college bar?” Umm…that’s where the college chicks are! I would wager that most of the moralizing pundits on ESPN and SI are just jealous that they can’t get some 20 y/o hottie.

Hey Ragnar, is your screenname the Army slang for being tabbed? If so nice to meet a fellow “Ragnar” here.

the other incident where he apparently gave a hard time to,and made fun of,a bar manager who actually had the audacity to want to verify that the young lady Ben was with was of legal age? The story,as I recall it,was that Ben told the manager/employee that Ben knew his boss,and was going to speak with him about having the manager/employee fired?
Not sure what came of that,but it was yet another dubious incident involving Ben Roethlisberger.

It’s been a freakin week already and no charges have been filed. IF charges are filed, it’s gonna be a he said-she said deal and a misdemeanor more than likely. The fact that this bullshit deal in GA is possibly gonna complicate the other bullshit deal in NV is further proof that the entire legal system is fucked.

Someday we’ll find out what happened to that Blitzburgh guy, he had a similar writing style to yours.

I’m with you on this one. I don’t know either way, and I will not condemn Ben, nor defend him until more is known. But, I do think there are a few things we differ in our opinions on.

First, I understand going out for your birthday with your friends, he’s a person too, he can do what he wants. But, in reality, couldn’t he have chose a better place to go out to? Perhaps a classier place in Atlanta? Rent a limo, take the 2 hour ride with your boys, and go to a high end nightclub, not a college hot spot. If you have the money he does, try to surround yourself with a classier crowd, plain and simple. Don’t want to ride two hours home, get a hotel, hell, rent an entire floor. You don’t have to stay home, but you don’t have to surround yourself with immature younger-than-the-legal-drinking-age people either, there is a middle ground.

Secondly, as mentioned above, the Colorado case is still in court, and apparently the judge wants to hear more, which leads me to believe there is something to this, not necesarily a rape, as stated, but something. He could easily be cleared on that too, or not. But having a second charge (although there is yet to be a charge in GA) levied against you does not do you any favors, to say the least. Something must be done about this by the team, in a pre-emptive matter because the league will weigh in, sooner or later. I don’t release him until something is proven, but a four game suspension in my opinion, is in order (I think the term is “conduct detrimental to the team”). Does it help our team, no it does not, but if we’re going to so critical (in general as a fanbase) of other franchises, we have to set a higher standard for ourselves. That’s how it works. If he is found guilty of either, which isn’t even on the distant horizon of either transgression, then a lengthy suspension is in order. One season, most likely, and who knows what kind of legal punishment he will face as well. Most likely no jail time as mentioned in the post, but who knows.

One thing is for sure, Ben better be much more careful when it comes to putting himself in risky positions. Yes, there was ample security around him, from what I’ve read. But this goes to show, security can’t stop everything, and sometimes with great power comes great responsibilty. You are the focal point of a franchise with which you’ve reached the highest levels of success. There is much more riding on your shoulders than any of us, perhaps including you Ben, realize. It’s time to start making better decisions. (Sorry for the long comment, but I really haven’t said anything on this until now, so it all came out. Hopefully it made sense :) .)

i would not call the Maddox years a waste. Remember, we were a dropped Plax catch on 3rd down of getting into FG range, and lost on a running into the kicker penalty. If, at best, these are only allegations of sexual assualt, Ben has no more stikes with the Rooneys. he will be shipped off to Buffalo or Oakland to see how the other half lives. if, at worst he is found guilty, he is facing action by the league office and perhaps voiding his contract due to morals clause. i love Ben as much as anyone from 1:00to 4:15. his rep in town is that he is a punk, and if he keeps acting like one, see you later. NO single player is better than the team. See Terry Bradshaw, Franco Harris, Joey Porter, et al.

but I am no longer wearing my Ben jersey. I will root for him on the field but as a father of two little girls I can’t endorse a guy who at worse is a womanizing man-whore. Again, still want him as our QB but I am picky about the jerseys I wear come Sunday.

I’m disgusted and disappointed. This is not the behavior of a Steeler-it’s Bungals behavior. Do I want to see him stay? Not really anymore-I don’t care how good he is. If he stays I want to see some type of accountability this time. (And a good backup QB…)

I think one thing Steeler fans can learn from this is that the Rooney’s are certainly great people, but at some point we need to realize that the players they employ aren’t really a lot different from those on other teams.

We (Steeler fans) like to point and laugh at the legal issues of the Bengals and Ravens, etc. but the Steelers have had their share of issues in recent years.

I think it’s fairly arrogant to think that the Steelers are still above everybody else when it comes to character, a viewpoint that I’m guilty of having too often.

Outside of a couple franchises, things aren’t done more morally or just in the Steelers organization than they are anywhere else.

I don’t think anyone wants Ben to be a Brady or a Jeter, which many seem to hold as high watermarks of “classy” athletes. But I really do hope that Ben himself aspires to a higher standard. Not for my sake, or for my kids’ sake. It can’t possibly be positive for team morale when media clamors and hounds teammates for comments and forces teammates to be consciously “on-message” instead of training.

Not being a Tomlin, Rooney, or Goodell, my opinion matters little. However what would make me feel better as a fan would be to see BB get focused about football between now and camp. If he shows up at camp fat and haggard, I’ll be worried.

Uh, Blitz, reading you as Michael Bean is a bit like watching Clark Kent flying around Metropolis (with just a little bit of the cape showing beneath the suit jacket). The writing is still great. Good post.

And Ark! Long time no ‘see’. Good to here from you. Thougtful comment.

My two cents. I agree with Ark on the whole business of representation. But I would argue that because of his success over the past few years its not just the Rooneys that he represents. He’s one of handful of guys who is a poster boy for the whole league. That’s a multi-billion dollar arrangement that involves not just all the teams plus the league offices, etc. But also the networks, sponsors, all of whom could take a hit if a 20 something with limited experience screws up.

While the majority of us tend to admire and even envy individuals in that position (‘let me have his problems’, we might be prone to say) Their situation is hard for almost anyone to comprehend. The girl in this situation is referred to ‘young’, ‘naive’, ‘underage’. Most of these professional athletes are basically the same age. In some respects they are even less prepared for the world they occupy because they have been sheltered in many ways by individuals and institutions such as colleges that seek to shepard them to success. Delayed gratification and paying dues are little known concepts to many of these guys. It is also different from previous generations of athletes because the money was good, but not that good. Only a select few could hope to earn millions (much less tens of millions) from their years as pros. Now the majority earn the kind of money that demands the kind of not just, adult decision making, but shrewd, sophisticated manuevering to get through unscathed. In many respects this beyond the capabilities of family and friends to manage. What does Ben’s family know about the pitfalls of being a multi-millionaire?

In the meantime he’s making the kind of cash that attracts the big time predators, crazies, whatever. and it is likely that many of the people who supposedly have his back, grown-ups, are mistakenly colluding with his ‘enemies’, by suggesting that he has the freedom and power that he can no longer safely exercise. And if just one of his advisors is incompetent or corrupt, he could end up looking like a jerk or an idiot. Not a very enviable life.

We all knew years ago that somebody would find Corey Haim dead of a drug overdose, probably before the age of 40. And I wasn’t the least big suprised when Jefferson Street Joe Gilliam ended up the same way. Past actions so often predict the tragic future.

Right now Roethlisberger seems to have two alternative endings to his professional and personal life.

One, he can keep being a jock jerk and end up failing in life – maybe even having endless brushes with the law like Billy Martin used to. No telling exactly how bad it will turn out, but it won’t end well.

Or, two, he can actually come to Jesus. Not the horseshit baloney of putting PFJ on his uniform and acting just the opposite. He needs to hit rock bottom and face the reality that he has screwed up his life and is squandering his God-given talent. He needs to put his life in the hands of a higher power….put his RuthlessPecker away…and gain some humility. So long as he remains in charge of his own life, he’ll be speeding along without a helmet, so to speak.

I’m not trying to save Ben’s soul (not with my religious background), and I cringe when jocks talk religion or politics. But I’d be much happier to have to endure Ben lecturing as one of the Former Assholes for Jesus (“I was a jerk and He saved my life.”) than to see him continue down the dead-end road he has been traveling.

Hope I haven’t offended anyone….but I think it’s time for one big jerk to get down on his knees and cry like a baby…..realize he’s messed up his life so far….and there is a way to put it back together again.

If he does, maybe we’ll also be spared the annual off-season melodramas….This guy has become worse, and more predictable, than Favre.

irregardles is NOT a word. regardless is a negative in of itself it doesnt need the prefix “i” for it to be a negative. “regardless of what transpires in his legal situation” is what you were going for.

you need to read up above, irregardless is a word. I’ll add another site to help get Johnny_S’ point across. Taken from dictionary.com…

Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.

Just because it’s nonstandard doesn’t mean it’s not a word. And if you’re going to be picky, it’s the prefix ‘ir’ , not ‘i’.

You are right on point.