BTSC Mock Draft Round Up - One Month To Go Edition
In the same spirit of the mock draft round up done late last month here on BTSC, let's take a look around the web to see what the draft 'gurus' think the Pittsburgh Steelers will do with this April in the 2010 NFL Draft. I tried to use many of the same sites that were referenced in our last round up, if for no other reason than to see how some of them may have altered their picks for the Steelers. I've also removed some of the sites that I'd previously kept an eye on, as well as added a few new ones that I felt were worthy of inclusion. It's all in good fun as we try to collectively get a better understanding of all the prospects out there hoping to take their games to the next level.
I won't give anything away, but I was intrigued that one site pinpointed a position that I'd not yet seen anyone else identify. I think it makes sense for a lot of reasons.
One more thought from me before we get to the round-up. I really, really don't understand the logic that is leading many of these draftniks to believe that Pittsburgh will take a nose tackle with their first round pick in late April. As you'll see, all of these mock drafts have been updated since Casey 'Big Snack' Hampton was re-signed, and all of them acknowledge that Hampton will still be the man in the middle for at least another couple of years. So why then would the Steelers use a somewhat high (for their standards at least) first round pick on someone who won't be a starter until 2012 at the earliest? Makes no sense at all. Last time I checked, Casey Hamtpon was taken with the 19th pick of the 2001 NFL Draft. And also last time I checked, Hampton wasn't getting groomed to be a starter during his first couple of years in the league. No, he was starting 11 games his rookie year and 15 of 16 games in his second year.
So let's all just collectively dismiss anybody that tries to convince us that the Steelers should or might be targeting Casey Hampton's replacement with their first round pick in this year's Draft. Not happening. End of story.
Let's get started.....
Draft Countdown: C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
Their analysis: In recent years the Steelers have drafted with an eye toward the future but after a disappointing post-Super Bowl season in which they missed the playoffs that philosophy might have to change a bit. A couple of years ago Pittsburgh used their first round pick on Rashard Mendenhall and this time around they may opt to bring in Clemson's C.J. Spiller to replace Willie Parker as the "Lightning" to Mendenhall's "Thunder". A versatile player with blazing speed who is capable of making an impact as a runner, receiver and return man, Spiller isn't an every down workhorse but he is an explosive playmaker that defenses must account for at all times. It's not an exaggeration to say that Spiller is a threat to take it the distance at any time from anywhere on the field and the success that fellow speed demon Chris Johnson is having in the NFL will surely work in Spiller's favor on Draft Day. The Steelers could also use some help along the offensive line so Idaho's Mike Iupati and Florida's Maurkice Pouncey could be options at this point as well. There are many who feel the Steelers could use an upgrade at cornerback but keep in mind that they just used third (Keenan Lewis) and fifth (Joe Burnett) round picks on cover guys last year. Don't be shocked if the Steelers follow their recent M.O. and just throw everyone a curve ball either.
Draft Countdown's Previous Picks: 1) C.J. Spiller 2) Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
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NFL.com (Bucky Brooks Mock Draft 3.0): Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
The analysis:Casey Hampton returns after signing a lucrative deal, but Williams will share snaps early in his career before taking over the job in a few years.
Brooks of NFL.com previous picks: 1) Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama 2) Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
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Walter Football.com (updated 03/16/10): Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama
The analysis: Surprised to see Rolando McClain this low? Some mocks have McClain as high as No. 5, which I think is crazy. No inside linebacker has gone higher than No. 9 (Brian Urlacher) in the past 15 years. And there's a reason for that, as well as the fact that other renowned inside linebackers like Rey Maualuga and James Laurinaitis have fallen - the position is not that important.
As for McClain specifically, he ran a 4.71 at his Pro Day and is not a good fit for a 4-3 defense. He was also diagnosed with Crohn's Disease; that likely won't impact his draft status, but it may be a slight deterrent if he's close with another prospect on some team's board.
Having said that, McClain is a great value at No. 18, and I can't see the Steelers passing up on him if he's available, even in the wake of the Larry Foote signing. Foote was added on to be a backup because the 35-year-old James Farrior won't be around much longer. McClain will likely step in as a starter in 2011 next to Lawrence Timmons, with Foote being the third inside linebacker on the depth chart.
Walter Football's previous picks: 1) Earl Thomas, FS, Texas 2) Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
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National Football Post (03.10.10): Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
The analysis: Iupati gives the Steelers a talented body inside who can win at the point of attack as well as hold up in pass protection
National Football Post's previous picks: New addition to the round-up
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DraftTek (updated 03/16/10): Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
The analysis: Despite Casey Hampton's re-signing, Dan Williams is a solid pick here. The Steelers followed their philosophy of filling obvious holes before the draft so they can pick almost BPA here. Williams is a very safe pick at NT. Other choices would be Earl Thomas as a CB/S, Kyle Wilson, Sergio Kindle or a slight reach for an OT. - Patrick (Drafttek Steelers Analyst)
DraftTek's previous picks: 1) Anthony Davis, OG, Rutgers 2) Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
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The Football Expert (updated 03/13/10): Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
The analysis: Believe me, I understand the needs of the Steelers on the defensive line where Father Time has struck in a hurry. However, the team I grew up watching knew how to run the football. The way things stand, Big Ben is going to have a short career ended by getting the tar knocked out of him. Perhaps he is already having concussion issues considering his poor decision making off the field. They have fortified the wide receiver position and probably will add another running back at some point (perhaps even here with Surprise! The Sequel by taking Spiller) which is needed to balance the offense. Someone needs to blow open some holes on the interior or no one is going to take their running game seriously. Opponents will just pin their ears back and come after Roethlisberger who has a problem holding the football too long. Enter the next great center. Last year I thought they would target Cal's Alex Mack, but rival Cleveland snatched him up. This time they will select a more versatile threat capable of immediately starting for them at right guard.
The Football Expert's previous picks: 1) Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho 2) Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
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Mocking The Draft (shake 'n bake's 03/21/10 edition): Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
The analysis: Thomas can compliment Polamalu as the free safety and do a better job moving around the D as a fill in than anyone they had last year.
S 'n B of MTD's previous picks: New addition to the round-up.
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Draft Board Insider (Curt Popejoy's 3.17.10 edition): Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
The analysis: Thanks to the "Polamalu Effect" this team has to add another dynamic playmaker in their secondary, and Thomas is a perfect choice.
Draft Board Insider's previous picks: New addition to the round-up
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NFL Draft Geek (updated 03.14.10): Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
The analysis: The Steelers surprising woes this year can be easily identified in two places, injuries to Safety Troy Polamalu, and their inability to protect QB Ben Roethlisberger, highlighted by the 8 sacks they allowed to the Cleveland Browns of all teams. Pittsburgh must address this need by selecting the top offensive lineman available, and at this point it is obviously Idaho guard Mike Iupati. The 6-6 330 Guard has been all the rage around draft circles, after impressive performances at the Senior Bowl and combine. An unprecedented talent for a guard of his size, is just plain nasty on the field, phenomenal athlete, has quick feet, and is everything you want out of a guard. Iupati also has the ability is asked to move over to Left Tackle. Whatever Pittsburgh decides to do with Iupati, he will be able to add some instant protections for Ben Roethlisberger and they will be getting themselves a dominant offensive lineman for years to come.
NFL Draft Geek's previous picks: New addition to the round-up
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much ado about nothing? seriously man… it looks like a regurgitation of the last few weeks. nothing new. no new spin.
One needs to ask the question now… WHY? why did you even bother posting this….this nothingness.
stillers forums.com may you rest in peace. you rat basterds.
this coming from you?
the king of copying other people’s work on stillersforums boards and pretending they’re your own? wow.
that said, I don’t disagree. I thought some of these mocks might change with the Steelers moves in free agency, but they didn’t change too much except for a few smart ones.
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Michael Bean on Mar 22, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
?
It’s nice to have a bunch of mocks hosted in one place, focused on the only team I care about. How fresh do you want a mock draft to be? Should he just start making players up, and have the Steelers take that guy?
What’s with the comment about inside linebackers not having been taken higher than 9 in the last 15 years? What about A.J. Hawk (5th) in 06? I know it’s easy to forget about him now, but…
by Neal Coolong on Mar 22, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't he originally drafted as an OLB?
Then moved inside with the switch from 4-3 to 3-4
by barnerburner on Mar 22, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
He played inside at Ohio State. You could be right, I’m lazy and don’t feel like looking up anything on the Green Bay Packers.
I would have thought that at least an explanation in regards to Hawk was merited, but oh well. I’m just glad we didn’t take him.
by Neal Coolong on Mar 26, 2010 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions
As my mother used to say
If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all.
There was no need for this comment. Even though we may have seen plenty of writeups on this issue, it’s still informative and interesting to get a collective pulse on what we may do in the draft.
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Mar 22, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Hi5Steeler
One needs to ask the question now… WHY? why did you even bother posting this….this nothingness.
Well said Hi5. You should ask yourself that very question every time you decide to post a thoughtless snipe at the people who put together the free, high-quality content on this site.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 22, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I like it
there’s 5 guys under serious “consideration” and I’d be happy to have any of ‘em, and nobody will know more about the team’s options until draft day on 4/22 … so WTF? We’ve got another 30 days to toss around the same names
I like Spiller and Pouncey, since either could play major snaps & contribute immediately to our SB run.
Could live w/ Iupati, Thomas or D Williams, as Iupati might start and both Thomas & Williams could play up to 30% of snaps if they learn quickly.
Who else is there?
Yeah, WTF?
Who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
by chewiesteeler on Mar 22, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Figures
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
by chewiesteeler on Mar 22, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't hold it
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
you might want to get that looked at
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Mar 22, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It was looked at last night
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Mar 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why some people drink before they hunt
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
i think spiller is going to be an amazing nfl player
and i wish we needed him. but i wouldnt want to draft him. we need much more depth in other positions
My sentiments exactly!
I really wish we needed him because he’s so dynamic. But at the expense of a potential starting guard or corner or LB? I don’t think that’s a luxury we can afford right now.
By the way, I saw in the photo above that Spiller wore #28 at Clemson. It got me thinking: can you recall any significant Steeler who ever wore 28? Off the top of my head, I’ve got no one…
(wait a second: Chris Hope maybe?)…
"Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and to fads and to popular opinion." -- Jack Kerouac
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Mar 22, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree . . .
i read a good point by someone recently that it’s not financially feasible to have two young first round draft choices at rb . . . way too much money to be invested at one position . . . being that there will only be one of them on the field most of the time . . .
What about the Carolina Panthers?
It’s been said that one of their formulas for success is exactly having two young good rbs…
by PTownSteelTown on Mar 24, 2010 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions
hey!
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 23, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice work
Good to see all this located in one spot. But why no ESPN (kiper) or CBS Sportsline? Scout.com has some goog mocks too.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 22, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions
No one knows
It is fun to think about all the possibilities. The Steelers on draft we all know will have players targeted for the first round, but not even they know which players they have targeted will be within their reach till it happens. I think they would certainly OT T. Williams , LB R. McClain or any other BPA i falls to them close to 18, just because they would be BPA. Other than a surprise pick which the steelers sometimes do. C. M. Pouncey makes the most sense to me.
The more I learn -The less I think I know! Just enjoy reading and sharing.
CJ Spiller
He looks slow and is not a good runner. He can’t catch. He can’t hit holes. No vision. We shouldn’t draft him. I have no alternative motive, except that I want the best for the Steelers….
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
Oh
What? That thing I said? Didn’t even cross my mind. Just looking our for the Steelers….
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice try
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Wow
Hope this is reverse psychology. As a Clemson and Steelers fan I can assure you this would be a hell of a pick. Clemson will be much worse this year simply because Spiller accounted for like 40% of all scoring on the entire team. Any time he touches the ball he can score. This includes catching the ball out of the backfield.
No, its a joke. I bet a guy on this board that if the Steelers drafted an RB in the first I’d eat a terrible towel.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Spiller
Spiller would be a good pick if there wasn’t at least 10 possible impact running backs in the draft. While spiller is the top ranked, nobody is predicting him to be the next barry sanders. I believe if earl thomas is available when we draft, that’s who we get, no question about it.
by ironmike55 on Mar 22, 2010 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
BPA
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
In the 6th round maybe...
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Mar 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
So many good choices
so few chances to pick. I can hardly wait for the draft.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 22, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions
Patrick Robinson
Anybody who ever picked the Steelers to draft Patrick Robinson in the first round has no credibility whatsoever. I know we need a corner but this guy is the antitheses of a Dick Lebeau corner and Heaven will roast over before this happens. Why I’d even wager the ingestion of a small yellow square of linen on it… wait, there is some familiarity to the concept… Hmmm…
Consider it unleashed!
No fun but...
It’s also interesting that none of them mention the risk of Ben being in serious trouble. Seems to me if there is even a slight risk that you lose your best offensive player, you do something to protect against that risk. In this case, that would be fortifying the offensive line. And it’s not like it’s not a need anyway. If any QB in the NFL were back there other than Ben, our offense would do nothing. I say the Steelers protect against that risk and get either Pouncey or Iupati.
A sobering but valid point
Based on what I read in the Post-Gazette this morning about the NFL’s personal conduct policy, there’s a reasonable chance that no matter the outcome of the Georgia investigation, Ben could be suspended for a few games. So if that means Dennis Dixon or Charlie Batch or even Byron Leftwich (not out of the question that we’d trade for him) at QB, we’re going to have to lean heavily on the run game. I don’t know if a guy like Iupati could start for us from day one, but it would be in our best interest to find that out.
"Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and to fads and to popular opinion." -- Jack Kerouac
by cliff harris is still a punk! on Mar 22, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
How could the NFL suspend him if he is innocent? For drinking beer? For hooking up with a girl?
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it states anything about
punishing people that are falsely accused.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Mar 22, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The way I read it
Just being charged is grounds for discipline. NFL Image type clause.
If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.
Has he been charged?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Not yet
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw Pacman eat plenty
I know he did it
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
No NT - end of story?
If Dan Williams is there at 18, the Steelers will select him. They would be silly not to. Stud NTs make the 3-4 work. It’s great to have a Polamalu but, in the long run, the 3-4 starts with the NT followed by the ends. Yes, Casey may have signed a new contract but, it is necessary to find a sure fire replacement as quickly as possible. Should there be no one there when Casey is done, the gaping hole up front will be glaringly obvious.
Also, someone like Dan Williams will find playing time right away subbing for Keisel, Smith or Hampton while he learns the D. Who else (youthful) is behind those guys right notw Ziggy and another promising talent but then its old man Hoke and a couple other geezers whose roster spots are expendable.
In conclusion, of course it is possible that the Steelers pass on a NT in the 1st but I hardly think you can blithely dismiss the notion.
Also – CJ Spiller will not be drafted by the Steelers in the first round. NUTS!! Honestly, I don’t even think he’ll be there by 18. Johnny_S will be soiling himself if Spiller is still there though which would be hilarious!!
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
Depends
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I see what you did there
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
by chewiesteeler on Mar 22, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, I might need Depends
if your B.J. Speller situation comes to pass. I might piss myself laughing, even though the Steelers won’t pick him.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
by Steel Spike on Mar 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Bitter sweet. I’d be stoked to draft him, but at the same time it would suck.
With the 18th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Pittsburgh Steelers select Florida QB Tim Tebow. (not a RB!)
by John Stephens on Mar 22, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If he somehow falls to us in the 2nd
I might just have a heart attack.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Completely agree
I see the original poster’s point that, since Casey’s been re-signed, we don’t need a nose tackle. Fair enough. But can we be sure we’ll get a quality nose tackle in the early rounds next year, or the year after that?
If Dan Williams is available, I certainly hope we get him. That said, I doubt he’ll be available. And Spiller is a pick that doesn’t make sense to me, unless they truly view him as BPA at 18, regardless of position.
Cam Thomas
from UNC is a viable option for NT and he is going to be there in the third maybe fourth round. No reason to waste a number 1 pick on a NT when there are going to be BPA at 18
I want Holyfield! You've seen what these guns can do in the Middle East. Now I'm gunna show you what they can do in the ring..
DaTruth's First Mock Draft of 2010
Here it is folks:
1) CB/S Earl Thomas – Start him out at corner and let him play immediately in the nickel D and sub-packages.
2) NT Cam Thomas – He isn’t going to be there when they go to pick in the 3rd round, so go ahead and grab him now. With Ziggy, Harris, McClendon & Thomas, you have the nucleus of the Steelers D-line for the future.
3) OLB Eric Norwood – Built like Deebo and plays like a baby Deebo. Anytime you average double-digit sacks in the SEC for 3 years, you are doing work. Would be a good fit to learn from Woodley and Deebo Sr.
4) RB Legarette Blount – I’m not concerned about him punching a player. Hell, if he smacks a Ravens player in the face the first time we play, I’ll buy him a beer. He’s rising a little on draft boards and he would be the perfect fit as a pounder for this team.
5) LT/RT – Tony Washington – A smooth athlete with good feet. A glaring red flag is that he did something as a teen that requires that he registers himself as a sex offender. More research is needed, but I don’t think you can take him off your board for something that he did at 16. But then again, with the stuff with Ben, the Steelers just might.
5) CB A.J. Jefferson – this is the area where you take a flier on a CB with great measurables who has good return skills and whose best football is ahead of him. He needs a lot of work in the weight room (7 bench presses of 225 pounds) but you have to like the size, 6’0, 195, speed 4.48 in the 40, and the 44-inch vertical leap (best at combine).
5) DT Lindall Joseph, ECU – This is the proverbial 3-4 DE pick where the Steelers try to find gold later in the draft. They did the same with Aaron Smith, Keisel, Sonny Harris and now with Joseph. The fact that Joseph can also play some NT in a pinch helps. He’s coming out early so he’s going to need some seasoning.
6) G/T Ed Wang, Virginia Tech – Wang played left tackle at a good school for four years. Some think that his best move would be inside to guard. Regardless, the Steelers take a flier on this big kid with raw ability.
7) Tyler Sheehan, QB, Bowling Green – I’m of the mindset that the Steelers should trade a late pick to Tampa Bay for Byron Leftwich and then sign him to a 2-year-extension and let he and Dixon compete for the back-up job. But the Steelers take a 3rd QB to groom because Charlie Batch is basically a clip-board holder at this point.
7) DE/LB Adrian Tracey, JMU – A flier on a pass rusher who dominated on the division 2 level. Decent size at 6’2’’, 250 lbs., and runs a 4.7. A roll of the dice, but you never know.
I’ll also put forward a mock draft with the Steelers trading down in the first round and picking up an extra 3rd and 6th round pick. As we’ve learned over the years, the 3rd and 4trh rounds are pretty much the meat and potatoes of a great draft. Let’s hope the Craig Urbik and Keenan Lewis prove that successfully this year.
by datruth4life on Mar 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I like it...
Adresses our needs fairly well. I heard the Tony Washington stuff, but like you, I really don’t know what happened back then. I do know he had a heck of a work out from what I gathered watching NFL Network. I like the Ed Wang pick, and honestly, this is more in line with what the Steelers have tried to do with linemen. He has the flexibilty and upside that we seem to love come the 4th round and beyond. I still find it hard to believe we go offensive linemen in the first. It would basically be a drastic change of plans from what the front office has said all along. Cohesiveness through continuity.
"One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preperation."
-Arthur Ashe
by NYSteelersFan4 on Mar 22, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Joseph could be a NT
he’s huge weighs like 330
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
by Steel in FL on Mar 22, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony Robinson slept with his sister when he was 16 and she was 15. That is what he did to have to register as a sex offender. It cost him a shot at D-1 football and will probably haunt him in NFL lockerooms.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Was she hot?
I’m just kidding…
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Mar 22, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not as rare as people think.
But it is just as gross as people think.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 22, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
DaTruth's Mock Draft with a Steelers trade down in the first round
1) G Mike Iupati, Idaho
2) CB Jerome Murphy, USF
3) OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina
3) NT Torell Troupe, UCF
4) RB Legarette Bount, Oregon
5) LT/RT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian
5) CB A.J. Jefferson, Fresno State
5) DT Lindall Joseph, East Carolina
6) ILB Jamar Chaney, Missippi State
6) S Myron Rolle, FSU
7) QB Tyler Sheehan, Bowling Green
7) DE/LB Adrian Tracey, JMU
question for steeler nation
Does anyone think that we should consider drafting a qb in the 2-3 round? I think with the big ben situation that this would need to be addressed. Dixon is a solid starter for a few games and perhaps could even earn a winning season this year, but out offense was built around ben. We have great receivers and need a qb that can sling it around the field. I think that mccoy or tebow could be an option in the 2nd to third round. Not saying they are anything comparable to ben but they could be groomed to succeed in pittsburgh. what does everyone think?
No
Dixon can wing it deep probably not as well as Ben but better than those two. Mcoy is too slight with not a big arm and would have to be a project before. Tebow would also be a project playerthat would need some time on the bench before being ready to play. If I was to draft a QB to backup Dixon if Ben is suspended, I’d draft someone like Mike Kafka in the later rounds. less development could play earlier than the other two
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
by Steel in FL on Mar 22, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How far they trading down?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
by chewiesteeler on Mar 22, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure Datruth...
Take the Ed Wang pick uot, just to spite me.
"One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preperation."
-Arthur Ashe
by NYSteelersFan4 on Mar 22, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Out, that is.
"One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preperation."
-Arthur Ashe
by NYSteelersFan4 on Mar 22, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
NYSteelersFan4, Ed Wang stays if they don't trade down ...
But I don’t think they will take him, Iupati in the first and then another lineman before selecting Wang. I do like Wang, though.
by datruth4life on Mar 22, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it makes sense...
When I think about it for more than a second, haha. Just joking about the spite thing anyway. It’s tough to say with them playing different positions, but given the athleticism and strength I saw from Wang and the tape I’ve seem from Iupati, I’d call Ed Wang a poor man’s Iupati myself. The big diiference that I saw was Iupati’s ability to blow guys off the line of scrimmage. Wang has that strength, but I don’t think his technique is there yet.
"One important key to success is self-confidence. An important key to self-confidence is preperation."
-Arthur Ashe
by NYSteelersFan4 on Mar 22, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ROFL!!
I do like Wang, though.
Seriously LOL’d at this!
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
oh dang TMI
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Iupati?
That’s a common choice for 1st I’ve seen, and it makes sense (he’ll be available at 18+, best OG in the draft, etc), but I don’t like it.
I think a really good OG needs a quick brain to go along with his quick hips, and from what I’ve heard Iupati is as dumb as a pile of rocks. A good OG in the NFL is more than just a big body. Perhaps I heard wrong?
I don't know if he is dumb per se
I assume this is based on Wonderlic scores. I don’t know if the wonderlic is culturally slanted. It maybe like the old IQ tests from the 1940s which were inadvertently slanted to certain economic/cultural groups. I suspect normal life experiences for a person raised Samoan isn’t necessarily normal for some kid out of North American suburbia. If this test is slanted then it will skew the results.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 22, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
A pile of rocks is hard to move
just saying
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Mar 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why don't they just pick one of the rocks up and hit him in the head?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Larry Allen was probably the top G of the past decade
I do not remember many statements proclaiming him to be exceptionally intelligent…
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
Looking at Houston at no. 20 and New England at no. 22 as trade down candidates
I don’t think the Steelers will trade back much further than that. I still think they’d want to be able to pick from among Iupati, K. Wilson, Odrick and Pouncey.
They're not going to resign Stapleton
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_672804.html
so maybe leaning towards a center, Pouncey?
Defensive depth
I think we’ll see the Steelers pick Mike Iupati in the first round, based on a hunch and some clues reported in the media.
First, Scout.com reported that “new OL coach Sean Kugler told Iupati he was the Steelers’ No. 1 offensive lineman” — ahead of the likes of Okung, Williams and Bulaga, all potential top 10 picks. That doesn’t automatically make Iupati the Steelers’ first pick off the board, but it reinforces reports that the front office has a high level of enthusiasm for Iupati. We also know that Tomlin sees football as “a tough-man’s game, it’s an attrition game. You win by stopping the run and being able to run the ball effectively.” He has proven this by using his first-round picks on a RB and a DT. As a result, the odds of targeting OL with the top pick are higher than those for most other positions (FS and LB, notably).
Second, the draft has on multiple occasions been deemed to be very deep on defense. What that means is that Colbert can (rightly so, in my opinion) pick a number of potential defensive starters after the first round, lessening the need to draft a defender with the first pick. The draft is not nearly as deep on offense, increasing the need to consider an offensive player in the first round.
Obviously, it’s all just a guessing game, at this stage, but I think there are signs that Iupati could be their guy with the 18th overall pick.
I was remiss, above, in not also noting that Art Rooney II has publicly stated that the running game needs to be a priority next year. Said Rooney: “I think Mike and I certainly agreed coming off the season that we need to run the ball more consistently to get to where we want to get to. So that’s part of the thinking in the offseason: We need to figure out how to get better running the football.” Pressure from the top will be yet another factor in the decisions that Colbert and Tomlin make in the draft — and yet another reason why Iupati is the likely choice in Round 1.
good stuff alleghenys
nice thoughts.
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by Michael Bean on Mar 22, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You are forgetting a vital point
Hair Wars- could we fit Iupati’s ego (read: hair) in the same locker room with Troy, and what impact would this have on the normally docile and thoughtful Troy. Can we honestly take the chance that this might negatively impact Troy’s sense of security as resident hair-ma donna?
Wow, I really hate that last one, but I will let the Nation decide on its value…
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
Perhaps
they can both rejoice in each others hairness!
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 22, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry -
Iupati doesn’t hold a candle to Troy. Troy is head and shoulders above him. I’m afraid Iupati doesn’t make the cut.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Mar 23, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OL Depth
Love the 1st round talent available anywhere on o-line, Steelers should pick best upgrade available. Not sure if that translates down to rounds 2, 3, 4, but it usually does. PS should draft some tall athletic o-lineman late in day 1 that doesn’t have a position and make him the #2 TE. If you are going to start your #2 TE who threw far more blocks in nursery school than in the NFL and then only throw him the ball 5 times, he may as well be a 325 pound mountain. Unless your name is Limas Sweed the opposing D still has to cover you. Still hope the Steelers convert Sweed to safety and then actually pay him to knock balls down. RB in first round is wasteful, so is a first round backup NT who will only play running downs in a few years in a heavily pass oriented NFL.
Prediction: Trade up for Rolando McClain, Steelers wouldn’t sign Foote unless they planned on cutting Farrior (who cost them at least two games; NE and CIn). No cap is a great time to unload contracts without feeling the pain. Hartwig is another likely cut target as is BB if charged.
None of those three get cut. Not a chance.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 22, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLD ON KEMOSABE
he king of copying other people’s work on stillersforums boards and pretending they’re your own? wow.
that said, I don’t disagree.
I need to address that right now. Yes I post at a no holds barred steeler fan site. its a total dive forum too … but I ALWAYS have the author listed and provide a direct link back to every single blog. ALLLL WAYS.
Yes most of the blogs refer back to this site. I love this site. great info pops up and I love your articles. i re post them quite often.
But I do call em as I see em. and I am west coast for the rest of the poasters here… your 2 am is my 11 pm when ive just finished up my fine bottle O cabernet, normally chimney rock or plumpjack or some such so I may come off a little edgy. I do not apologize for this but applaud my fine taste in beverages and sites I choose to lambaste.
carry on my fine feathered black and gold fans.
stillers forums.com may you rest in peace. you rat basterds.
Pittsburgh will trade up and grab a QB.
and a 1st round Center for Ben. Seattle, Pleeeeese take this guy.
no one will ever notice
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 22, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
evidently not.... look below
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 23, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Troll?
No troll here. I’m guilty of wishfull thinking maybe, but I am not trolling. Ben has what 1 maybe 2 years left if he keeps holding on to the ball like he does. And if someone doesn’t Theisman him in the backfield or he isn’t concussed out of the league (aka Aikmaned), he’ll self destruct off the field. The guy is self destructive. I’d dump him.
Agreed
I’d most certainly dump a QB whose self destructive on-field behavior has led to 2 Super Bowls. We definitely better get rid of him….he might get hurt.
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
by count'em_six on Mar 22, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Troll
yes, you are a troll. Theisman sucks, immobile, plus lets face I’m surprised LT didn’t do that more often to other guys…
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 23, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Fingers crossed for Pouncey
No great offensive line has ever been without a great center.
People talk about when did the Steelers line go downhill. The real answer is when Jeff Hartings retired.
Pouncey or Iupati?
there’s really no good reason to trade down (getting even MORE picks to try to trade up for another pick in the 2nd?) and no reason whatsoever to trade up … for McClain or anybody else. DB’s like Thomas & Wilson could play immediately in the nickel and might start by Year 2, but …
Pouncey MIGHT start Day 1 at either C or RG, and Iupati (stupid or not) looks like a monster. That said, we already have Foster, Urbik and Essex … Foster has potential & it’s awfully early to give up on Urbik. Essex also plays T, but now we have J Scott. One of these guys will have to be cut.
Has me leaning towards Pouncey in Rd 1 …
Where has it been said that Iupati is dumb?
If anything, I have heard people acclaiming how he carries himself.
And, there is in fact good reason to trade down. If the draft goes a certain direction, then our needs/evaluations would better match the prospects expected to be available a bit later than 18.
That said, I love Pouncey too and wouldn’t mind utilizing the flexibility offered by our new compensatory picks to position ourselves to get him, along with some other help on the OL, DL and in the secondary.
Big Ben seems to have too much time on his hands, and too many hands on his time.
I am not certain
but I think it was based on his Wonderlic score of 13*. These scores have to be taken with a grain of salt.
- score I have seen quoted… not certain if it is correct.
I may be old but I... oh d*mn, I forgot what I was going to say.
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Mar 25, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions

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