Could Willie Colon Be Traded? His Agent Thinks So.
Willie Colon's agent, Joe Linta hinted in a Pittsburgh Tribune Review article that the Steelers should consider trying to move Colon to a team with a draft pick in the mid first round. Colon and his agent think this make sense since they don't believe that Colon appears that "he fits in their (long-term) plans."
What do you think BTSC? I think a first round draft pick for Willie Colon is a great value but it's also not like the Steelers have tremendous depth behind Colon. I am pretty skeptical that Tony Hills, Ramon Foster, or any rookie that would be available in the mid-first round will be ready to step in this season, so I would consider it a long shot that Colon will be traded.
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I heard those false starts were caused by
and “overactive Colon”
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
that sir could have a second un-intended meaning.
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by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 3, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
or intended
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
good thing you didn't end that setence with "lie". :)
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
sounds like posturing by his agent
if the Steelers felt that Starks (the man Willie replaced at RT) was worth an extension, than I have to guess Colon is as well – its just a matter of working out the #s. why would we give up on our starting RT the last 2 yrs and a guy that IS developing into a SOLID RT in both the run and pass game for an unknown? despite the T-Rex arms and occasional mental lapses (which have become less frequent), Willie Fast is our best option going forward, especially if we’re looking at making SB runs the next couple of years.
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This is a good guage.
Arians keeps saying that Colon is one of the best right tackles in football. This will tell us. A first round pick for “One of the best right tackles in football” is a no-brainer. A lot of teams would jump at the deal if it were true.
I don’t tink it’s true and Willie will be a Steeler this year.
I don't even think he commands a high 2nd pick either
Tough to be harsh on one of the most improved guys in the line the last year, but I’d still prefer an upgrade over him, if they can make it happen.
by SteelersVT on Mar 3, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that
Gay and Colon should make it a point to stand next to each other on the sidelines. That would be a funny picture.
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Again, hysterical. I am having a hard time taking anyone with the last name of “Gay” seriously.
by thatguy011071 on Mar 4, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
And this coming from a guy who works with a Mike Cox. I nearly broke my neck doing a double take when I saw his name plate.
by thatguy011071 on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Two Sides to this
1.) Colon, despite the crap he takes from us fans, is developing into a solid RT. He’s not a LT, he’s not a franchise type guy, but he’s a good run blocker, and a well above average pass blocker.
2.) If it’s possible to trade Colon for a 1st rd pick (which I think is a bit of a stretch) then I think you take it. There are some very promising O Lineman in this years draft, many of whom will still be available in the mid first round. Two picks in the 1st will allow the Steelers to address the O Line AND the Secondary with the potential of drafting high level talent. That’s something that FO will certainly be thinking about.
But again, I don’t think any team will trade a 1st round pick for Colon…maybe a 2nd round….so I think he stays.
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Mar 3, 2010 12:02 PM EST reply actions
He's an RFA
There won’t be any trades. Someone else can sign Colon, and the Steelers either match the contract or get a 1st round draft pick from that team. Of course, with poison pills being more commonplace, matching the contract can be prohibitive. So it’s all about the draft pick.
They must figure that he’s worth less than pick #32, but more than pick #64, which is why he has that tender. I’d definitely take a 1st round for Colon, but probably not end of the 2nd.
I think the team trying to get Colon and the Steelers could work out a deal for different compensation.
This high of a tender puts the Steelers in a better negotiating position.
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by SNW on Mar 3, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
What is a poison pill?
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Mar 3, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
As far as sports contracts are concerned, there is a pretty good definition at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_pill#Sports
To try and fail may be unacceptable, but failing to try, is accepting failure.
Basically
A team who wants to take a free agent will put something in the offer sheet that makes it next to impossible for the current team to match it. For example, if a team put in an offer sheet to Willie that says if he plays more than six games a year in Pittsburgh his entire contract becomes guaranteed (what the Seahawks did to Nate Burleson), it stops Pittsburgh from matching.
Lame
I mean, it’s a great business tactic, but that’s such a creepy lawyer/agent/politcian thing to do.
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Colon not likely to be traded.
Other Iupati who is a left guard, the next guard on the list is rated a 2 or 3 round pick. The only other option would be if the steelers have their eye on a right tackle that could be converted to guard or sleeper in rounds 2 or 3 that they think could as good or better than Colon. In that case they might make a trade for another low 1st round pick or a high second round pick. A trade like that is more likely to happen on draft day. When someone who wants Iupati don’t get him.
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I know
Colon is aright tackle. But basically the same problem any one above will get all the good tackles and if they are gone before the steelers pick ,why would they trade colon.
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Trading Colon makes no sense
His agent getting nutty because of the intoxicating affect of the capless year makes a lot of sense. Clark’s and Colon’s agents are infected by this intoxicating bug I’ll call “opensky”.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I should say, that I doubt it. Colon is a pretty decent RT. Why would anyone want to move him to guard? That, plus he’s probably not going to be traded as I don’t see anyone willing to part with a #1 pick for Willie Colon.
haha…thanks man…hopefully I can try to be a bit more regular on here…no promises yet though.
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by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not gonna ask you why you haven't been around
I’m just gonna call you a slacker :P
Seriously, I hope you have either been well, or getting there. :)
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Oh non worries man…it really hasn’t been anything catastrophic I have just been having some shifting work responsibilities and I haven’t had the free time that helping out here on a consistent basis requires…..soon hopefully, soon.
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by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
K
You may have to rassle with Johnny for the six-pack job.
Battle Royale! (from Accepted)
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agreed…he is doing a bang-up job for sure.
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by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 3, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
True dat
I don’t have the patience for something that intense that I don’t feel passionate about. I’m passionate about the Steelers, but not to write something that long every day.
Besides, I’m too damn lazy to look at all the sports media outlet sites everyday…Johnny’s a good choice.
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He answered your question in his post, SF...
I can try to be a bit more regular
Presumably things are working out for him now.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Little bit of laxatives will get things working out... :P
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I wish I could say it was
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 3, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
It is now.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
He's a solid rt
but who’s going to trade above a 2nd or 3rd rounder for just a solid ot? When it’s entirely possible you could draft a 2nd or 3rd rounder and get the same play at a lower cost?
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it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
If his agent thinks that,
then he should be working on a deal with some team that fits that description. As zacharai said, it wouldn’t be a trade, per se, it would be some team making him an offer and giving the Steelers a first round pick. It’s possible, but I doubt any team is willing to do that.
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Mar 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions
No way Colon is worth a first round pick
Just because he no longer sucks doesn’t mean he’s anything special. Anyways, who else thinks that Earl Thomas is the frontrunner at #18?
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by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He is the front runner
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
This Colon business stinks to high hell.
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yeah it needs cleansing
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
douche bags will prolly work too
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
So fresh and so clean clean
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Aye, yai, yai yai!
You’re mamma douches with Drano! :P
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ouch
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by Rebecca Rollett on Mar 4, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
dammit that's supposed to be a response to arn
well i just ruined a good insult
Bad Andy, Good Pizza.
Are you trying to call your brother a douche bag?
bwahahahahaha
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Ok
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Bugger agents!
To the fiery pits of hell with those moneygrabbers and their pathetic attempts to spin BS into dollars. If you want to do that, go in the subprime business!
I hope the new CBA includes a rookie wage system so these bastards lose power and we hear less of them and more about actual football!
Consider it unleashed!
BTSC headline is misleading
His agent is talking about him being signed by another team and the Steelers getting the 1st rounder as RFA compensation. There’s no trade.
He’s an agent who gets paid when Colon get’s a bonus so of course this is what the guy wants.
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