BTSC 2010 NFL Mock Drafts : Updated 03/04 (4 round edition)
This is my post combine mock draft. Some of the picks are the same, some are a little different. As always I look forward to your comments, questions, and conversations.
1. St. Louis Rams: Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
Team needs: QB/WR/CB/DE/OLB
Before anyone starts to argue this pick with me I want you to read the following article, because I couldn’t have explained it better myself. http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftdefensivecoaches.php I’m not going to change this pick from a QB unless the Rams find one in free agency such as Jason Campbell or Michael Vick, or trade for one. Their number one priority has to be to find a new Quarterback. GM’s don’t think to themselves, “We’ll be bad enough to get the top QB next year” and neither do head coaches who only have a very limited time to prove their worth. For a great example of this you only have to look to last year’s draft. Many said that Aaron Curry was much more of a sure thing than Matt Stafford. New Lions coach Jim Schwartz, with a defensive coordinators back ground, still took the QB instead of a top D prospect because he knows that a team starts with a QB. Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh is a great player but he’s not going to single-handedly wins games for them. Even if Suh did win them 5 more games than they would’ve, then they wouldn’t be drafting high enough to get next years top QB Jake Locker. Previously I had the Rams taking Jimmy Clausen but apparently the rumor mill is saying that they are more enamored with Bradford so I’m going with it. Heading into an uncapped year means the Rams can dump Marc Bulger’s salary without any future consequences.
2. Detroit Lions: Ndamukong Suh DT, Nebraska
Team needs: OT/DT/CB/OG/SS
What the Lions need most is an impact player. This team needs playmakers everywhere other than QB, TE, and FS. They need a cornerstone LT to protect their 40 million dollar man in Matt Stafford but Suh is too great a player to pass on, plus it seems the Lions are blindly devoted to current LT Jeff Backus. Suh looks to be the best defensive lineman prospect since Warren Sapp. Although he has already had 2 knee surgeries so far and given how much money he would be guaranteed, they may shock everyone and opt for Gerald McCoy, who many feel is the better overall prospect. At this pick, the only other options I can see them going with if they elect not to take a DT are Russell Okung or Eric Berry. But if Suh is available they would be crazy to pass on him.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Gerald McCoy DT, Oklahoma
Team needs: DT/WR/DE/CB/SS
The Bucs messed themselves up winning just enough games to take them out of the Suh sweepstakes. Unfortunately he is no longer available but getting McCoy is not a bad option. Many consider him to be the most technically sound DT in this draft, even more so than Suh. Not having a need for a QB or LT means that this pick would pretty much only be Eric Berry or perhaps even Derrick Morgan if they decide to not go with McCoy. Trading back with a pick this high isn’t really much of an option as other teams will not want to pay the amount of guaranteed money expected to a top 3 pick. It’s also not out of the realm of possibility that they trade up with the Rams to get Suh, as the Rams would still be able to get Clausen or Bradford here. Or they could trade up one spot with the Lions, who would still be able to get McCoy, save a couple million, and pick up another draft choice.
4. Washington Redskins: Jimmy Clausen QB, Notre Dame
Team needs: OT/QB/OG/RB/OLB
Regardless of whether or not you’re a Jason Campbell fan, the fact remains that this team is not winning with him. I know a lot of the problems are because of the injuries to the offensive line but Snyder is going to go with a flashy, big name like Clausen, especially now that Mike Shanahan has been hired as the new head coach. There is a perception that Clausen has an attitude problem, which has been greatly exaggerated by the likes of ESPN’s Todd McShay, that may influence teams from taking him early but I doubt someone like Snyder would concern themselves with it. If Snyder decides that he doesn’t want Clausen and Bradford isn’t available he will target Russell Okung, Bruce Campbell, or Anthony Davis.
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
Team needs: OT/NT/OLB/WR/Safety
Matt Cassell needs a LT that will give him enough time to throw the ball down field. KC spent a lot of money on Cassell and it would be nice if they got a return on their investment. It would also allow them to move 2008 1st round pick Brandon Albert to LG, his natural position, or RT since it doesn't seem like he can make it playing on the left side. Moving Albert to LG means they could slide Brian Waters to center and really solidify that line. Okung has distinguished himself as the top OT in the draft with a strong combine showing and would be a great addition to the Chiefs O-line. He's athletic, uses his hands very well, and has quick feet to get out in front of speed rushers. If they are somehow still confident that Albert can play LT then this pick would change to Eric Berry or even Rolando McClain.
6. Seattle Seahawks: Eric Berry S, Tennessee
Team needs: OT/DE/QB/RB/WR
I’m going with Berry here because with two early first round picks, there is plenty of OT talent but Berry is too good to pass on. If Okung were available they would probably go for him, but given Bruce Campbell’s injury history and Anthony Davis’ reputation as being inconsistent they will elect to go with Berry would many consider an Ed Reed clone. Berry ran a 4.4 40 and posted a 43in vertical at the combine which can only solidify himself as a top player if there were any doubts. I will give new Head Coach Pete Carroll enough credit to go with talent over the familiarity he has with Taylor Mays.
7. Cleveland Browns: Joe Haden CB, Florida
Team needs: CB/Safety/RB/ILB/OLB
Cleveland needs help everywhere except for LT where they have Joe Thomas. A lot of draft lovers think they will target a QB, but I’m not sure the franchise is quite ready to give up on Brady Quinn, especially when there is no more 1st round talent QB’s left, although they may target one in the later rounds. Haden is the only elite corner in this draft class and landing him would be a decent consolation prize after missing out on Berry. He posted a slow 40 time (4.57) which may cause him to slip a bit but I doubt it. He may have had an off day at the combine but I’m sure he’ll improve him 40 time on his pro day. If they elect to keep the 3-4 defense this pick may turn to Alabama ILB Rolando McClain.
8. Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell OT, Maryland
Team needs: OT/DT/CB/DE/OLB
Bruce Campbell secured this pick by measuring in at the combine at a stout 6’6” 314lbs., with 36 1/2in arms, and add to that 34 reps on the bench press and a 4.85 40. That’s enough to make undead Al foam at the mouth. Given Okung’s great combine if he manages to slip this far I believe the Raiders would take him, although given his great combine I doubt he would make it past Seattle. At this point I really can’t see anyone but Campbell being selected here unless Davis goes with Taylor Mays unofficial 40 time of 4.27.
9. Buffalo Bills: Anthony Davis OT, Rutgers
Team needs: OT/QB/NT/OLB/ILB
The Bills will look to fill their biggest need which is gaping hole left by the Jason Peters trade to Philly. I gave serious thought to mocking them NT Dan Williams, especially since they are switching schemes to a 3-4 defense and there were grumblings about Davis’ poor combine interviews, but there will be a couple of quality NT’s to choose from in the second round but no more OT’s. They may also consider Rolando McClain to help shore up that horrendous run defense. There’s also an outside chance they may pick Jason Pierre-Paul but it’s unlikely since they selected pass rusher Aaron Maybin in the first round of last years draft.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Derrick Morgan DE, Georgia Tech
Team needs: DE/FS/OG/OC/OLB
The Jags young receiving corps has come on this year and as such seems to be no longer a dire position of need, although they due lack a true number one receiver in which case they make target Dez Bryant. This team needs a DE as the Jags make the transition back to after a woeful attempt at using a 3-4. Morgan has distinguished himself as the top DE for a 4-3 as he is an excellent pass rusher. It’s also likely that they pick Carlos Dunlap over Morgan because he’s a local boy and team owner Wayne Weaver will try whatever he can to put fans in the stands. They also need an upgrade along the interior O line as well as a replacement for the disappointing Reggie Nelson. There’s talk that the Jags are looking to save money so they may look to trade back with a team like the Steelers who may be targeting Rolando McClain.
11. Denver Broncos(via Chicago Bears): Rolando McClain ILB, Alabama
Team needs: DE/NT/WR/OC/OG
Look for the Broncos to take the best defensive player available. McClain is a natural leader, is continuing to rise up draft boards, and would be a perfect fit considering he played in a 3-4 defense at Alabama. The Broncos have very few holes to fill as they have plenty of young talent that will develop over time. But after going 6-0 they have been exposed for their lack of the deep ball. If they finally do trade Brandon Marshall this offseason then I will change this pick to Dez Bryant.
12. Miami Dolphins: Jason Pierre-Paul DE/OLB, USF
Team needs: OLB/ILB/WR/NT/FS
Previously I had them choosing Dez Bryant, but given that he didn’t even participate in the combine drills and there is a perceived notion that like Anthony Davis he has a maturity problem, I’m going with JPP. Personally I think he has a high bust rate and have compared him to Vernon Gholston on many occasions as he too is a one year wonder and a workout warrior but with a great combine he has clearly shown that he has the tangibles to be an excellent rusher at the next level. Whether or not he can parlay those skills into actual results remains to be seen. They may also consider Tenn. NT Dan Williams but if McClain slips past Denver I would expect him to be the pick.
13. San Francisco 49ers: Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
Team needs: RT/SS/CB/OG/RS
I know this is a little high for a RT but it fills the 49ers biggest need. Williams is an absolute mauler and if he gets his hands on a defender it’s over. He was a pleasant surprise at the combine, showing more than expected athleticism and running a 4.88 40. It’s now become unlikely they will take NT Dan Williams as they have slapped the franchise tag on current nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin and it sounds as though they are close to a long-term deal. The 49ers also need help in the secondary so Earl Thomas may be an option for them as well.
14. Seattle Seahawks (via Denver Broncos): Charles Brown OT, USC
Neither Walter Jones nor Sean Locklear can seem to stay healthy, with Jones recently announcing his retirement. Previously I had them taking Bryan Bulaga, but he measured in with only 33in arms at the combine which is going to scare teams from drafting him too high. After playing most of the past season at around 290lbs., Brown weighed in at 304lbs. which is going to cause his stock to rise although he needs to gain another 10 lbs. to be ideal. The Hawks may also look for a RB, especially since the electrifying Spiller is still on the board, but they should be able to grab Cal’s Jahvid Best, Georgia Tech’s Jonathan Dwyer, MSU’s Anthony Dixon, or Fresno State’s Ryan Mathews in the 2nd or 3rd round at a greater value.
15. New York Giants: Brian Price DT, UCLA
Team needs: MLB/FS/RT/DE/CB
Price has probably seen his stock soar more than any other prospect since the end of the college season and would be a great addition as the Giants continue to stockpile D linemen. They could also use a replacement for Kareem McKenzie who is over 30 and starting to show his age but this need can be addressed in the later rounds. They released MLB Antonio Pierce but with McClain already off the board they will have to wait as this is way too high for Brandon Spikes or Daryl Washington. They could also consider Earl Thomas who would fill a much greater need to pair with Kenny Phillips, or even to replace Phillips given the nasty knee injury he sustained.
16. Tennessee Titans: Everson Griffen DE, USC
Team needs: CB/DE/ OLB/ DT/OC
Who would have thought that after a 0-6 start that Vince Young would salvage their season? They have multiple needs but Young’s play means they won’t be looking for a QB. Cornerback is their biggest need but without one worthy of this pick they’ll address their D-line which wasn’t able to get much pressure last year. Previously I had them taking Dan Williams, but they do have plenty of depth at the DT position. Thanks to Griffen’s combine performance he has elevated his stock as much as Carlos Dunlap’s stock has dropped.
17. San Francisco 49ers(via Carolina Panthers): C.J. Spiller RB, Clemson
After having taken care of their need for a RT with their first pick, they get the luxury of bolstering their RB corps. Spiller would fill two needs as he would provide an instant boost to their return game as well as a pass-catching option on third downs. Earl Thomas could be an option, but they really need a SS to replace Michael Lewis and Thomas would definitely have to play FS. They may also look at Brandon Graham or Mike Iupati if they don’t take Trent Williams at 13.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Earl Thomas S, Texas
Team needs: FS/OG/ILB/DE/NT
So we managed to work out a long-term deal with Casey Hampton which means our need for a NT has diminished. Even still, Hampton is 32 years old and with Dan Williams still on the board we may take him as the Steelers always look towards the future. At the combine GM Kevin Colbert stated that the team is looking at players from every position other than QB and TE. I’ve weighed the needs and values of this pick over and over again, and much to the disappointment of Steeler Nation I went with Thomas over Mike Iupati who has become a fan favorite. Iupati was outstanding in his SB practices and has solidified himself as a 1st round pick. During the game he dominated his opponents except for one time when he got beat by UGA’s Geno Atkins. He would fill the one weak point at RG where Darnell Stapleton and Trai Essex are lacking and rookie Craig Urbik didn’t show much during the off season. But even with the rag-tag group of O-linemen we had we still managed to have the 7th ranked offense in the league. And after thinking about it I believe the Steelers organization may feel it has an up-and-comer in last years UDRFA Ramon Foster to fill the void at RG. So without question the Steelers greatest need is on the defensive side of the ball, especially at safety. Ryan Clark is a free agent and from what his agent is telling the media, he expects to be paid like one of the top safeties in the league. Although I’m sure that is just his agent posturing for a better contract. Tyrone Carter who played horribly week in and week out in Troy Polamalu’s absence is also a free agent and unlikely to be retained. Thomas is an absolute ballhawk, and would be the perfect compliment to Troy P. He’s had a reputation of being a poor tackler, but it’s not for a lack of effort. He just doesn’t have the size to truck a running back. The Steelers also need to find an eventual replacement for James Farrior. His play declined dramatically this past year, he’s 34 years old, and since it takes a couple years for linebackers to learn the system anyway it would be nice to find his replacement now. Keyarn Fox has filled in admirably at ILB for Lawrence Timmons but is not a permanent solution. Besides, Fox is too valuable as a special teamer. Unfortunately Rolando McClain will be long gone but there is talk that the Steelers might make a move up for him, trading with Jacksonville. A lot of people are high on Florida ILB Brandon Spikes, who may be great against the run but is somewhat of a liability in zone coverage. Another option would be TCU ILB Daryl Washington. A player I really like in the later rounds would be Baylor’s ILB Joe Pawelek although I suspect the Steelers would rather target a homer like PSU’s Sean Lee. After watching him in the Orange Bowl, I really like Iowa’s Pat Angerer in the later rounds as well. It’s also conceivable that they draft Sean Weatherspoon who has the size and leadership qualities to play ILB. Cornerback could also be another option considering none of the rookies from last year have seemed to distinguish themselves, although the only option in the 1st would be to trade up for Joe Haden. Clemson RB C.J. Spiller would be a slightly long-shot option if he were available. Willie Parker is most likely not going to be resigned and Spiller would be a great speedy compliment to Mendenhall’s power for a lot less cost than Parker.
19. Atlanta Falcons: Sean Weatherspoon OLB, Missouri
Team needs: DE/OLB/CB/Safety/DT
The Falcons will take the best defensive player available, particularly an OLB or DE. Weatherspoon is the top OLB suited to play in a 4-3 defense. He managed to impress everyone in the SB practices with his vocal leadership and enthusiasm. During the game he didn’t disappoint, playing sideline to sideline and showing very good man-coverage skills. At the combine he put up the second most bench press reps for a linebacker with 34 as well as the second best vertical jump of 40 inches. They could also consider Dan Williams, Carlos Dunlap, or even a solid compliment to Roddy White like Damian Williams.
20. Houston Texans: Dan Williams NT, Tennessee
Team needs: CB/FS/OG/DT/RB
They need help in multiple areas, specifically on defense since they are letting Dunta Robinson leave via free agency, and in the interior defensive line after sending former 1st round pick Travis Johnson to the Chargers earlier in the year. Williams will shore up the front of their 3-4 defense. Damian Williams would also be an option as he would pair nicely with Andre Johnson, and fill a position of need if Kevin Walter isn’t resigned. The Texans could’ve won at least 3 more games this past season if they had a power running game so Mike Iupati could be an option as well.
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
Team needs: WR/TE/FS/ILB/OG
The Bengals only real needs are for WR’s and safeties and here they manage to take the top WR in the draft. There have been many questions raised about his maturity level and love for the game but as recent draft history has shown us the Bengals are more than willing to draft players with character issues. Outside of Chad OchoCinco, none of their WR’s has had much of an impact this year. If none of the WR options at this point are preferable to the Bengals they would certainly consider Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham.
22. New England Patriots: Sergio Kindle DE/OLB, Texas
Team needs: OLB/CB/DE/WR/RB
The Patriots need more youth and depth in their linebacking corps. They may opt of Brandon Graham but Kindle lined up all over the field for Texas and is the sort of versatile player Belichick loves. He had a great showing in the Championship game and solidified himself as a first round pick. Given how much the Patriots like to trade back, it would actually surprise me if they keep this pick, especially considering how deep the talent pool is in this draft. This is still a little early to consider any of the second tier of CB’s like Devin McCourty and Kyle Wilson.
23. Green Bay Packers: Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Team needs: OT/CB/Safety/OG/DE
Bulaga has fallen because his short arms will scare a few teams away but he would be a great value pick here and fill Green Bay’s biggest need. They have had to compensate for the lack of talent at OT by adjusting their scheme to keep TE’s in to block. Adding some OT depth would really help open up that potent offense. This is where teams will start considering Mike Iupati as an OT prospect rather than an OG. They may look to add an OLB to replace Aaron Kampman who’s set to become a free agent and clearly not comfortable after making the switch from DE to OLB, especially with Jerry Hughes and Brandon Graham on the board. Green Bay also needs to start looking at replacements for their aging secondary but will find better value for the in the next 2 rounds.
24. Philadelphia Eagles: Carlos Dunlap DE, Florida
Team needs: DE/OLB/FS/CB/OT
Without any tackle prospects left to replace the often injured Shawn Andrews, look for the Eagles to take the top DE or Linebacker prospect available. They need to fill the DE spot opposite of Trent Cole. Carlos Dunlap has had his work ethic and love of the game questioned but he’s just the sort of big lineman that Andy Reid loves and perhaps Reid and others can get Dunlap to mature.
25. Baltimore Ravens: Golden Tate WR, Notre Dame
Team needs: WR/CB/TE/DE/OC
Previously I had the Ravens taking Brandon LaFell but he ran a very disappointing 4.59 40 which is going to cause him to slip. Tate on the other hand ran an impressive 4.36 and apparently wowed teams during the interview process. During a media interview he compared himself to Percy Harvin which may be fair as he has the same explosive abilities which could certainly be used in a Ravens WR corps that finds itself completely lacking in that department.
26. Arizona Cardinals: Brandon Graham DE/OLB, Michigan
Team needs: OT/OLB/ILB/OC/NT
Arizona’s biggest need has been for a LT. They drafted Levi Brown a couple years ago but he has struggled on the left side. Now that Matt Leinart, a lefty, is at the helm with the retirement of Warner they may wait on a LT. This is another team they may look at Iupati’s potential as an OT. Outsider linebackers Haggans, Okeafor, and Berry are all 33 years old or older so they will definitely be upgrading with Graham who had a spectacular showing at the combine and SB, showing a variety of pass-rushing moves and looking a lot like Broncos OLB Elvis Dumervil.
27. Dallas Cowboys: Mike Iupati OG, Idaho
Team needs: OT/FS/OG/NT/ILB
The Cowboys get Iupati, who from what I’ve read in many mock draft forums to be a fan favorite, to fill a huge need along the offensive line. The Cowboys love big linemen and Iupati would be a great addition. They may try him out at OT which I feel may be a big mistake but we’ll see. At this point I really can’t see them taking any other player except maybe Taylor Mays, Terrence Cody, or possibly even Jared Odrick.
28. San Diego Chargers: Ryan Mathews RB, Fresno State
Team needs: RB/NT/DE/ FS/CB
Assuming they resign or tag LT Marcus McNeill, what the Chargers need most besides a NT to replace the aging Jamal Williams who was put on IR at the beginning of the season is a RB given that they chose to not franchise Darren Sproles and have already released LaDainian Tomlinson.. Unfortunately the only NT with a 1st round grade is already taken. I think that General Manager A.J. Smith is too smart to gamble on “Mount” Cody with a 1st round pick given that it’s become highly probably that he’ll eat himself out of the league in a couple years. Even with the fast 40 times of Spiller and Jahvid Best it was Mathews who had the best combine performance in my opinion. He ran a 4.4 40 and looked very solid in catching the ball which is something San Diego covets in its RB’s.
29. New York Jets: Jerry Hughes OLB, TCU
Team needs: OLB/CB/DE/WR/FS
The Jets biggest needs are a corner to play opposite Darrell Revis, a DE considering Shaun Ellis is coming off of an injury and Marques Douglas is a free agent and both are 33 years old, and a rush linebacker. With Hughes they can replace 1st round bust Vernon Gholston. With Jared Odrick still on the board he is the only other option I can see the Jets going with at this point. .
30. Minnesota Vikings: Devin McCourty CB, Rutgers
Team needs: CB/FS/MLB/OG/DT
The Vikings will look to shore up the few weak points on a very strong defense. Current starters Griffin (torn ACL) and Winfield (Foot) are both nursing injuries. Before the combine McCourty graded out as a solid 2nd round prospect, but after running the fastest 40 time (4.34) of any DB and looking very fluid in the drills he’s managed to catapult himself into the number 2 CB slot. The Vikings could also consider FS Nate Allen, MLB Daryl Washington, or OG/OC Maurkice Pouncey.
31. Indianapolis Colts: Jared Odrick DT, PSU
Team needs: OT/DT/MLB/DE/OG
Without any cornerstone LT’s left, which is their biggest need, the Colts will focus on defense. I know the Colts do not typically invest early round picks on defense but it’s about time that they start. They are really lacking depth at DT and Odrick is a great 3 technique player. They may continue the trend of drafting offense in the 1st in which case they would go for Maurkice Pouncey to shore up a weak point at OG where Mike Pollack was lacking all year. Considering that Gary Brackett is a free agent they may even consider Daryl Washington who would be a great fit for their defensive scheme.
32. New Orleans Saints: LaMarr Houston DT, Texas
Team needs: DE/DT/OLB/Safety/OC
With an already potent offense the Saints will look to upgrade a defense that was hot and very cold all season long. Their biggest need is probably a DE to replace Charles Grant, but without any of the 1st round talent left they will choose to find someone to pair with Sedrick Ellis. Houston went from being a complete unknown at the beginning of the season to possibly being a late 1st round pick thanks to a great showing in the BCS championship as well as at the combine. With Taylor Mays’ recent 40 yard dash he may be an option here as well if the Saints do not resign Darren Sharper.
Round 2:
33. St. Louis Rams: Damian Williams WR, USC
Now that the Rams have their QB of the future they need weapons for him to throw the ball to.
34. Detroit Lions: Maurkice Pouncey OG/OC, Florida
The Lions are getting a great interior lineman in Pouncey who’s versatile enough to play Center, Guard, or possibly even Right Tackle.
35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Arrelious Benn WR, Illinois
The Bucs need WR’s to help the progression of young QB Josh Freeman. Michael Clayton has been underwhelming so far in his career and Antonio Bryant is not going to be retained.
36. Kansas City Chiefs: Terrence Cody DT, Alabama
Even though he may eat himself out of the league in a couple years, which is why he’s slipped out of the 1st round to begin with, the Chiefs are not going to pass up the chance to solidify their defensive front with someone who is could be a dominant 2-down NT.
37. Washington Redskins: Mike Johnson OG, Alabama
With a new QB in hand, it’s time to rebuild that ancient O line. Johnson would be a perfect fit for Shanahan’s zone blocking scheme.
38. Cleveland Browns: Nate Allen FS, USF
Brodney Pool has already had 4 concussions in his career.
39. Oakland Raiders: Jeff Owens DT, UGA
Jeff Owens did 44 reps on the bench press which makes him a steal in the second round in the eyes of the Crypt Keeper.
40. Seattle Seahawks: Anthony Dixon RB, MSU
They need better RB’s than Justin Forsett and Julius Jones.
41. Buffalo Bills: Cam Thomas, NT, UNC
The Bills need a NT for the transition to a 3-4. Thomas had a great SB week.
42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (via Chicago Bears): Kyle Wilson CB, Boise State
He would be an upgrade and successor to Rhonde Barber, as well as make a formidable tandem with Aqib Talib.
43. Miami Dolphins: Brandon Spikes ILB, Florida
Parcells will continue to focus on the defense. The linebacking corps continues its overhaul.
44. New England Patriots (via Jacksonville Jaguars): Jermaine Gresham TE, Oklahoma
The Pats need a replacement for Ben Watson.
45. Denver Broncos: Alex Carrington DT/DE, Arkansas State
They fill their need with a 5-technique DE.
46. New York Giants: Daryl Washington ILB, TCU
With the release of Antonio Pierce they need a replacement now.
47. New England Patriots (via Tennessee Titans): Patrick Robinson CB, FSU
Known for playing soft in his final season but played a great game at the Senior Bowl.
48. Carolina Panthers: Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
Team needs: WR/DT/OG/DE/OT
Regardless of whether Delhomme or Moore is the staring QB next season, they need someone to throw to besides Steve Smith. LaFell drops considerably due to a poor 40 time but is a solid possession receiver and a very underrated downfield blocker.
49. San Francisco 49ers: Taylor Mays S, USC
A replacement for the disappointing Michael Lewis. Taylor Mays has been the monkey wrench to every mock draft out there. He ran a great 40 at the combine but he still can’t cover that well. Given his combo of size and speed he could very easily be a top 20 pick but his inability to cover could easily mean he slips deep into the second round.
50. Kansas City Chiefs (via Atlanta Falcons): Dexter McCluster RB/WR Ole’ Miss.
McCluster had a great week of SB practices, showing off his amazing speed and cutback ability. Personally I think this is a little high for him, but some team is going to view him as the next Percy Harvin.
51. Houston Texans: Brandon Ghee CB, Wake Forest
They need DB help, especially if they let Dunta Robinson go.
52. Pittsburgh Steelers: Linval Joseph DT, East Carolina
Even with the resigning of Casey Hampton, they need to plan for the future. At the combine Joseph ran a 5.09 40 which is incredible for a man his size and did 39 reps on the bench press.
53. New England Patriots: Corey Wootton DE, Northwestern
He would fill the huge hole created by the Richard Seymour trade to Oakland.
54. Cincinnati Bengals: Morgan Burnett FS, Georgia Tech
With their second pick, they fill their second biggest need.
55. Philadelphia Eagles: Kareem Jackson CB, Alabama
Ellis Hobbs is a free agent.
56. Green Bay Packers: Rickey Sapp DE/OLB, Clemson
They have much bigger need in the secondary, but this is a BPA situation as they also need a rusher opposite Clay Matthews.
57. Baltimore Ravens: Chris Cook CB/FS, Virginia
They fill their 2nd biggest need. Cook also has the size and range to play FS in the event that Ed Reed does retire.
58. Arizona Cardinals: Rodger Saffold OT, Indiana
The Cards pick up a tackle prospect that showed off his great athleticism at the combine.
59. Dallas Cowboys: Jamar Chaney ILB, Miss. State
Keith Brooking is 35 years old and Chaney has greater value than reaching for Darrell Stuckey or Jared Veldheer.
60. San Diego Chargers: Torrell Troup DT, Central Florida
Troup really wowed people at the East-West shrine game and probably solidified himself as the 3rd or 4th best NT in this class.
61. New York Jets: Tyson Alualu DT/DE, Cal
Ellis and Douglas are both 33 years old, with Ellis coming off of an injury and Douglas a pending free agent.
62. Minnesota Vikings: Vladimir Ducasse OG, UMass
They need a run-blocking RG.
63. Indianapolis Colts: Pat Angerer ILB, Iowa
A replacement for Gary Brackett considering he’s a FA. Angerer is a little undersized but a great player and a perfect fit for the Cover-2.
64. New Orleans Saints: Navarro Bowman OLB, PSU
Bowman is a steal at this point. He’s slipped due to some off the field issues but would be a great replacement for 30 year old Scott Fujita.
Round 3:
65. St. Louis Rams: Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
This starts the defensive overhaul.
66. Detroit Lions: Reshad Jones SS, Georgia
Jones had an excellent combine workout and would pair nicely with Louis Delmas.
67. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Darrell Stuckey SS, Kansas
At this point their two biggest needs are for a DE and SS. At this point it would be a big reach for any of the DE’s available and Stuckey had a nice combine.
68. Kansas City Chiefs: Koa Misi DE/OLB, Utah
They need pass-rushers. Misi is another player who benefited from a great showing in the SB practices.
69. Oakland Raiders: Mitch Petrus OG, Arkansas
Oakland needs an OG and Petrus put up 44 reps on the bench press, which makes him a steal in the 3rd as far as Al Davis is concerned.
70. Philadelphia Eagles (via Seattle Seahawks): A.J. Edds OLB, Iowa
Chris Gocong is not suited to play in a 4-3 defense. Edds is a solid strong side linebacker.
71. Cleveland Browns: Chad Jones SS, LSU
Pool and Elam both need to be replaced. This would complete the secondary overhaul. Jones has slipped due to a poor combine.
72. Buffalo Bills: Marshawn Gilyard WR, Cincinnati
T.O. wasn’t the answer and wasn’t retained. They need someone else besides Lee Evans. If James Hardy pans out Gilyard would make a great slot receiver.
73. Miami Dolphins: Carlton Mitchell WR, USF
Add another USF Bull and combine warrior to the team. Mitchell is very raw but has the size and speed to develop into a number one WR which is something Miami really needs.
74. Jacksonville Jaguars: J.D. Walton OC, Baylor
Brad Meester is 33 years old and they could use an upgrade to create running lanes for MJD.
75. Chicago Bears: Jon Asamoah OG, Illinois
Team needs: DE/OG/FS/OC/DT
Instead of reaching for a DE, and factoring in that they are probably the leading candidate to sign Julius Peppers, they take a local product to fill their need for a LG.
76. New York Giants: Kyle Calloway OT Iowa
They fill their need for tackle depth with someone that played just as good as top-15 pick Bryan Bulaga in the Orange Bowl.
77. Tennessee Titans: Dominique Franks CB, Oklahoma
Nick Harper can’t handle the number 2 corner duties anymore. Franks has a good size/speed combo.
78. Carolina Panthers: D’Anthony Smith DT, Louisiana Tech
They need youth and depth on the interior defensive front as well as a pass-rush presence.
79. San Francisco 49ers: Donovan Warren CB, Michigan
Warren had an awful combine which has caused him to spiral downward, but he’s a solid player and would replace Dre Bly who will most likely not be retained.
80. Denver Broncos: Matt Tennant OC, Boston College
Casey Wiegmann is 36 years old and no longer fits the blocking scheme in Denver.
81. Houston Texans: Toby Gerhart RB, Stanford
This pick should be a given. They desperately need a short-yardage power back.
82. Pittsburgh Steelers: Sean Lee ILB, PSU
This pick comes down to Lee, an OG like Ole’ Miss.’s John Jerry, a DE like Vince Oghobaase or Mike Neal, or possibly even a CB. Ogho’ and Neal are DT’s that could play DE in a 3-4. All but Lee would be a reach here. If not for an injury history Lee would be a 1st round pick but is a good value here to eventually be the successor to James Farrior.
83. Atlanta Falcons: Austin Lane DE, Murray State
The Falcons fill their second biggest need which is to replace former 1st round bust Jamaal Anderson.
84. Cincinnati Bengals: Rob Gronkowski TE, Arizona
The Bengals finally fill their need for a pass-catching TE.
85. Oakland Raiders (via New England Patriots): Jacoby Ford WR, Clemson
Ford ran the fastest 40 at the combine, enough said.
86. Green Bay Packers: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB, IUP
Green Bay continues the youth movement in the secondary.
87. Philadelphia Eagles: Major Wright FS, Florida
Sean Jones was a huge disappointment last year.
88. Baltimore Ravens: Jason Worilds OLB, Va. Tech
This is too early for any of the DE’s left, or a TE that fits their style of offense, and they need pass-rushing depth.
89. Arizona Cardinals: A.J. Jefferson CB, Fresno State
They need CB depth.
90. Dallas Cowboys: Jared Veldheer OT, Hillsdale
Just the sort of big lineman the Cowboys love. He had a great combine but may slip farther than this due to having ridiculously short arms (33inches) for a man of his size.
91. San Diego Chargers: Jahvid Best RB, Cal
They will probably not resign Darren Sproles and Best would function in the offense much the same way he did. Best had a great combine but I believe many teams will be scared off due to his diminutive stature and serious injury history.
92. Cleveland Browns (via New York Jets): Tony Washington OT, Abilene Christian
They could use some tackle depth and a replacement for John St. Clair.
93. Minnesota Vikings: Jonathan Dwyer RB, Georgia Tech
The Vikings are going to let Chester Taylor walk in free agency. Dwyer had a poor combine which is why he’s slipped this far but would be a good value pick here.
94. Indianapolis Colts: Jason Fox OT, Miami
This may be a bit of a gamble given Fox’s knee injury, but if not for the injury Fox would be an early 2nd round selection and he’s the type of lean, athletic lineman the Colts prefer.
95. New Orleans Saints: Willie Young DE, N.C. State
The Saints find a replacement for Charles Grant.
Round 4:
96. St. Louis Rams: Aaron Hernandez TE, Florida
Now that they have a QB they need a safety valve for him. Randy McMichael will probably not be retained.
97. Detroit Lions: Montario Hardesty RB, Tennessee
Kevin Smith had a serious ACL tear and may not be ready for the start of the season.
98. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Demaryius Thomas WR, Georgia Tech
They continue to rebuild the WR corps to help the progression of their young QB. They have a bigger need for a DE but anyone left would be a huge reach.
99. Kansas City Chiefs: Larry Asante SS, Nebraska
Since they cut Bernard Pollard I can’t name a single safety on their roster without having to look it up.
100. Washington Redskins: Sam Young OT, Notre Dame
They continue to rebuild an O-line ravaged by injuries and age.
101. Seattle Seahawks: Andre Roberts WR, Citadel
Outside of T.J., they really don’t have any other WR to throw the ball to. Roberts put himself on the map with a great week at the Senior Bowl.
102. Cleveland Browns: Dekota Watson OLB, FSU
They need someone to play opposite of Kamerion Wimbley.
103. Oakland Raiders: LeRoy Vann CB/KR Florida A&M
This is incredibly high for him as he is graded as a very late round prospect, but he’ll probably run a 4.3 40 at his pro day and he’s returned 11 kicks back for TD’s in the last 2 years.
104. Buffalo Bills: Jevan Snead QB, Ole’ Miss.
The Bills need to bring someone in to challenge Trent Edwards.
105. Jacksonville Jaguars: Tim Tebow QB/H-back, Florida
Yes I know. But in the 4th round there’s good value to be had, not in him so much as the number of tickets the Jags will sell because of his presence.
106. Chicago Bears: Daniel Te’o-Nesheim DE, Washington
Ogunleye and Anderson are both free agents.
107. Miami Dolphins: Jerome Murphy CB, USF
By an unintended fluke I’ve managed to mock 3 USF players to the Dolphins, and 4 players from the state of Florida overall. They need a FS to replace Gibril Wilson but find better value with Murphy in which case they can move current #2 cornerback Sean Smith to FS which is his natural position anyway.
108. Tennessee Titans: Perry Riley OLB, LSU
They need LB depth as they continue to rebuild their defense.
109. Carolina Panthers: Marshall Newhouse OG, TCU
They need a replacement for RG Keydrick Vincent.
110. San Francisco 49ers: John Jerry, Ole’ Miss.
Jerry is just the sort of big lineman that coach Singletary loves.
111. Denver Broncos: Tony Pike QB, Cincinnati
They tendered Kyle Orton but they will need depth behind him. Pike will take some time to develop and add bulk, but he has the potential to be a quality starter in the pros.
112. New York Giants: Myron Lewis FS, Vanderbilt
They need someone to play next to Kenny Phillips, or possibly even replace him if he’s not ready to play by next season.
113. Pittsburgh Steelers: Myron Rolle SS, FSU
I know this pick will make many people in Steeler Nation happy. Tyrone Carter, and probably Ryan Clark, will not be resigned so drafting only one safety isn’t enough. Rolle is the type of smart, high character player that the organization loves.
114. Atlanta Falcons: Amari Spievey CB, Iowa
Atlanta was hurting all year for CB depth.
115. Houston Texans: Robert Johnson FS, Utah
They need someone to play opposite of Pollard.
116. New England Patriots: Riley Cooper WR, Florida
Welker may not make it back by the start of the season and Moss isn’t getting any younger.
117. Cincinnati Bengals: Mike Neal DT, Purdue
They need line depth, especially if they don’t retain Tank Johnson.
118. Philadelphia Eagles: Roddrick Muckelroy OLB, Texas
They can’t continue to depend on Jeremiah Trotter for linebacker depth.
119. Green Bay Packers: Javier Arenas CB, Alabama
This solves two needs, one for cornerback depth and the other for an upgrade to Jordy Nelson as a return specialist.
120. Baltimore Ravens: Vince Oghobaase DT, Duke
Trevor Pryce is 35 years old.
121. Arizona Cardinals: Micah Johnson ILB, Kentucky
They need to continue to a youth movement in the linebacking corps and find a replacement for Karlos Dansby.
122. Dallas Cowboys: Kurt Coleman FS, Ohio State
They need an upgrade over Ken Hamlin.
123. San Diego Chargers: Harry Coleman S, LSU
They need a replacement for the disappointing Clinton Hart.
124. Philadelphia Eagles (via New York Jets): Ed Wang OT, Va. Tech
They need OT depth.
125. Minnesota Vikings: Arthur Jones DT, Syracuse
If Pat Williams retires they will have a hole on the defensive front, and even if he doesn’t they still need depth.
126. Indianapolis Colts: Rennie Curran OLB, Georgia
If Curran were just a little bit bigger he would be a 1st round pick, as it stands now he’s a perfect fit for the Colts cover-2.
127. New Orleans Saints: Van Eskridge FS, East Carolina
Eskridge was named defensive MVP of the East-West Shrine Bowl. Even if they do resign Darren Sharper they still need depth behind him.
101 comments
|
2 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Love it
Defense Defense and more Defense. I suppose this is a rhetorical question but, does Rolle serioulsy fall to the 4th?
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
Yes.
Slow 40 time will do that to ya… 4.68
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 4, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes he does
Despite the hype he has been receiving for being a Rhodes Scholar and being physically sculpted like he’s been pumping iron in prison for the last year the fact remains that his football skills were never considered elite. 2 years ago he was rated the 5th best safety in a weak class. This year he’s rated somewhere between 10-15 in a deep safety class. He has potential though and getting him in the 4th round would be good for us.
Don't get me wrong,
I’d love to get him there. I just don’t see him lasting that long. Some team is going to buy into all the recent PR on the guy and bite in the 3rd.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Mar 4, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Any reason we couldn’t also add Weatherspoon to the mix as a middle linebacker prospect?
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." TR
While I do like Weatherspoon, I’m not certain the FO will. He’s a very flashy spotlight seeker. I love his skills and leadership but I see the FO spending a 1st round pick on someone of his character.
The flipside...
Wexell is going on about how Pit needs a loud defensive captain and shy Timmons we’ll never be that guy as part of the reason he’s growing more open to Weatherspoon.
I don’t buy it — I think you could find that guy later and not invest all these top picks in LBs nor get a cocky showboat — but devil’s advocate…
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Still on the ILB soapbox...
Anyone else think that Jamar Chaney would be a good pick at 52? Farrior is older than Hampton, for what it’s worth. I suppose that NT is a younger man’s position however….
I still like Weatherspoon at 18. I think his attitude can be harnessed and channeled. Harrison would see to that.
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." TR
So the question is
how much is the value difference of ILB as suppose to S, NT, and OL at #18 as it is at #52. Thats the question you have to ask yourself. Not just is this guy better than this guy but moreso if I get this guy who will I have to take next and will they be better than any of the other options I would have if I took another guy.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 11, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
They interviewed him
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10060/1039382-66.stm
they said they really liked him
Disagree with the NT pick
We can’t dress three NTs on gameday. And we all know how the staff likes older veterans. I think Hoke’s contract is up after the season, so we should address it next year.
Why do we HAVE to dress him the 1st year? The Steelers always seem to draft for the future. Hoke is a Fa next year, and Hampton is 32 years old and on a 3-year deal. We draft a NT in the 2nd, sit him a year, and in 2011 he becomes Casey’s back-up as long as there’s not a work stoppage.
I agree
Joeseph will ride the pine next year, Hoke can retire next year, and by year 3 Linval is starter
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Hoke won't retire for at least 3 more years
He’s in excellent shape, has little wear on his body, knows the system inside and out(literally) and is a very, very DLman.
Why draft a guy in the second round that you don't plan on dressing?
A 2nd rounder is usually supposed to contribute, and we need our 2nd rounder, whoever it will be, to contribute.
The 2nd is too high a round for us to waste on a player who won’t even see the field. JMO
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 4, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
How often does our 2nd rounder, or any rounder for that matter, make significant contributions in their first year? I wasn’t implying that he would be a career back-up, but sitting him the 1st year because we don’t need him isn’t a waste if he becomes the successor to Hampton. It may not even take 3 years. He’ll have to sit behind Hampton and Hoke his first year, but that would be true of any NT we drafted. But next year we’ll wave goodbye to Hoke and Joseph would start rotating with Hampton, maybe even beating him out for the starting position by the end of that second year.
Very often
Woodley contributed quite a bit in 2007 as the season progressed. Sweed kept dropping passes, so he only got in when we really needed him. Bryant McFadden came up big against the Colts in a PLAYOFF GAME in 2005. Antwaan Randle El contributed mainly on punt and kick returns back in 2002 and caught some passes as well.
We’ve often traded out of the first round to get more picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Other than our obvious busts, Alonzo Jackson and Ricardo Colclough, we’ve gotten solid contributions out of our 2nd rounders in their rookie years.
Why not just pick a NT the year after? A first round NT will physically be ready to contribute in his first year. It’s not like LB, where you have to know a majority of the playbook to play. All he has to do is stuff the run and occasionally rush the passer.
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 4, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don't recall ever trading out of the first
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Mar 4, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
As you already said both Wood
and Mcfadden contributed late in the season, but couldn’t early. Sweed and Randle El don’t count because their on Offense. There are also more LB and CB spots than NT, so they have more chance to get on the field. If Joeseph can play ST then he will be dressed and get some PT
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Thoughts
I don’t see us in the mix for a ILB in the first like Weatherspoon. When we drafted Timmons in 2007, wasn’t that the first time we had taken a LB since the early 80s or 70s or something? I don’t remember the exact date, but I definitely remember that it was a while ago. I would really like to see us get Iupati, I think he will be a stud like Faneca, although I am not convinced that he can make it as a LT.
I really feel like the FO is going to throw us a curveball like they do every year, maybe they trade back and pick up Maurkice Pouncey (I hate Hartwig so I would love that). But I think one thing we can probably tell is that just because we may need O-line or a Safety, it does not mean that we will let those needs dictate who we take. Our picks usually take more than a year to really get going, so it seems like trying to guess who we draft might be an exercise in futility
Curveball
Just means they draft value, and you’re right — could happen again. Nice thing about this draft is I think there will be OL, DL, and DB value where we’re drafting. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Odrick or Weatherspoon or even Golden Tate.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
I know
and I agree with you that is what they are doing, however, I often feel like their draft board rarely agrees with what “conventional wisdom” might say it is. That is what i mean by curveball
true story
that’s why they’re the FO, and we’re commenting on a blog
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
Troy imo is one of the best tacklers in the game. Before the Super bowl i don’t think I can ever recall seeing him miss a tackle. As a Steelers fan hailing from Baltimore, I used to have debates with the Ravens fans as to who is better, Reed or Troy. I think that was one thing that really made troy better than Reed, Reed can’t tackle to save his life, and Troy always makes the tackle
Always enjoy your mocks.
I noticed that your team needs (for us) don’t include OLB. If one of our starters goes down, I see Timmons moving outside, and Fox coming in to play inside. Is that what you would predict?
Since we did re-sign Snack, wouldn’t drafting an OLB for depth, be a bigger need than NT depth, for us this year?
To try and fail may be unacceptable, but failing to try, is accepting failure.
You hit the nail on the head. If either Woodley or Harrison gets injured, Timmons would slide outside where he is a more natural fit anyway, in which case Fox would come in at ILB.
With the many glaring needs we have I just can see the Steelers going OLB unless someone like Hughes or Daryl Washington (who may now think would be better served playing on the outside) falls to us in the second round.
Daryl Washington and Lawrence Timmons cannot play outside
In a 4-3. They’re ILB only. They can’t take on blocks or hold the point.
They do lack depth at OLB. Timmons can slide over, but they still need someone. I’d look at a round 4-7 developmental pick but I know they interviewed some 2nd round guys at the combine. You can never have enough pass rushers.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
We're playing a 3-4 not a 4-3
Timmons is a natural 3-4 OLB, he showed his ability on the blitz last season. Daryl Washington, I believe, is still a better ILB, but I will accept Jay’s word on that.
That was a typo
I’m aware we play a 3-4. Timmons is not a 3-4 OLB. He can blitz but only from the inside. He can’t hold the point or play the run consistently. Both he and Washington are natural 4-3 weakside LBers who could play inside in the 3-4.
He could fill in as a backup but expect our run defense to suffer.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions
Love these, great time and effort put into them
I’m shocked you took Thomas with Bulaga still on your board. His arms aren’t long, but they’re not short — 33 in is the rule of thumb and he’s longer than that. With his power, technique, athleticism and smarts he’ll be higher rated on the steelers board than Thomas (and probably Iupati). Stick him at RG for a year and see what happens with Colon, he could play anywhere but center and be an upgrade.
I’d still take Iupati, or Dan Williams, before Thomas. I just don’t trust he can tackle and that he’s a last line of defense after his bowl game. And there are so many good safeties to be had in rounds 2 and 3.
Sean Lee i like. Did Lindval do anything on tape? I think Rolle will last until the 5th at least, actually… It’s a nice story but just not there, and you gotta wonder if his heart is in it or if he’ll quit and go become a neurosurgeon at some point — couldn’t blame him after all.
I’d rather have a Nate Allen, Chad Jones, TJ Ward in round 2-4.
I think Devin McCourty elevated himself to #18 at the combine. He was a classic case where he already had great tape — physical, run stopper, great special teams, solid cover corner, good build — but doubts about his speed were making folks look at him in 2nd round range. He showed in Indy he’s way faster and more athletic than anyone thought. I’d take him before Thomas or Wilson.
We already have two tackles
we have no safetys aside from Troy. Thomas fits better than Bulaga. Robert Gallery had arms that short.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
1) One of our tackles is a RFA. And even if we have 2, what if one goes injured.
2) Bulaga can play RG in the meantime and go to tackle later. In fact if you’re worried about arm length, could be a better position for him longterm.
3) There are tons of good safeties available in rounds 2-4. There’s no need to draft a weak one in Rd 1 to fulfill a need while leaving superior talent on the board.
4) Since the days of Noll, we havent drafted for need. That’s how you become mediocre year after year. We shouldn’t start.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
We have 2 STARTING tackles, that’s the difference. Drafting Bulaga doesn’t present that much of an upgrade to our team in terms of value. We’re locked into Starks because of his contract, and he’s not that bad to begin with. He’s certainly not top 5 or anything like that, but more than serviceable. Colon is a RFA which means we get him for dirt cheap this year. He’s continually gotten better every year since becoming a starter. I just don’t see tackle as a 1st round need. As far as guard goes, I think the team really likes what it has in Foster. That’s why I stopped mocking Iupati at 18. Our line isn’t quite as bad as so many make it our to be. Any teams line, the Vikings/Jets/Giants/anyones, is going to give up 50 sacks a year with Ben in the backfield. He’s going to hold onto the ball until a receiver gets open or he gets sacked. It’s just the way it is.
Earl Thomas is the best put cover safety in the draft. A FS’s job, especially in our offense, is to cover the center of the field. He’s essentially perfect for us. Due to his size limitations he’s not ever going to be the best tackler, but if we’re counting on our FS to stop the run then we have more troubles than I thought.
If the draft shakes out like my mock does, drafting Thomas would give us one of the top players as a position of need. It wouldn’t be need only.
Need, need, need
“I just don’t see tackle as a 1st round need.” That line of thought get us in trouble. You construct a draft board based on need and value, to be sure. Then you stick to your board. Bulaga is far superior to Thomas. Picking the latter when both are available is ignoring your board to pick the greater short-term need.
Ramon Foster is slow as dirt. There is no mobility or explosion in the interior of this line. Bulaga would be an upgrade immediately, perhaps even before Iupati. I’m not only talking about sacks, I’m talking about goal-line running, getting out in front of screens. There’s a reason we can’t do those things.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Also, see: http://www.profootballfocus.com/
According to those guys, we had the worst C and G in the league on our line last year.
Yikes.
And yes, smart people trust their OL rankings — not necessarily the rest of their rankings, but OL because every single linemen’s actions are on TV every single play (unlike say, a DB where you can’t tell what they’re doing much less if it’s smart).
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting read as always
… though I think this is my least favorite of all of your mocks so far (at least in terms of outcome, not execution). Personally, if given the option between Earl Thomas and Linval Joseph vs. Dan Williams and Morgan Burnett (NT/S combo to keep it simple), I certainly would choose the latter.
Further, of the four potential Steelers targets there (Williams, Bulaga, Iupati, and Thomas), I like Thomas the least. Not that we don’t need a safety, but simply if a guy has a glaring weakness, such as Thomas’ frail build, that does not bode well for the long-term. Is he perfect to play beside Troy? Very possible. But when Troy retires, are we then forced to look for another Troy just so Thomas continues to fit well in the defense.
Additionally, I think that re-signing Hampton will really play no role in the decision of the FO on whether or not to take Williams. If Williams was the pick two weeks ago when we were unsure about Snack, and his skills have not declined, then he is still the pick, at least in my pick.
Love the Sean Lee pick, would also like to see us take Arthur Jones if he were to fall as low as the 4th. This line in 3-4 years would be very appealing to me: Hood, Williams, Jones. Re-stocked, re-loaded.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
Well it’s easy to look down the mock and say you’d rather have Williams and Burnett over Thomas and Joseph but there’s no guarantee that Burnett or Nate Allen will be there in the second round. If we don’t resign Carter or Clark then FS becomes a dire need. We can’t pass on the opportunity to take the best pure cover FS in the draft and hope that another one will be available later on. As of right now we only have 2 safeties on the roster. We simply can’t pass on Thomas is we don’t resign Clark or someone else. And that’s what I’m basing the Thomas pick on.
Understood, and I'm not trying to look down on the mock
… but the fact that neither Burnett, Reshad Jones, or Chad Jones (yes, I know the latter two are not ball-hawking safeties) would tend to indicate the overall depth at the position that could be apparent when we might choose to pass on Earl Thomas.
Also, unless some has a reasonable argument en contra, I feel the drop from Williams to Joseph or Thomas is much larger than say Thomas to Burnett or Chad Jones.
Troy Pull-a-muscle? :(
The only difference between Eric Berry and Eric Thomas
is 1 inch and 3-6 pounds
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
So trading up for Tone wasn't drafting for need? what about Troy?
If just draft for value and not for need your team would be over run talent in some places and bare in some places
But if the value fits the need (like Thomas does) then your even better.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
You draft your board.
You look at need and talent to draft your board. Then you draft the best player on your board. Or you move up to get a player higher on your board — who is still a value at that pick, which is the key point.
There is no way Earl Thomas, who cannot tackle, is higher on the board than Bryan Bulaga. My sole point. If you were doing it as a math equation, the difference in talent between those two > the need for DBs over oline.
And I dispute that we don’t need oline talent.
I’m fine with Thomas if you’re drafting him to play CB, not FS, and if he’s the top name on your board. That’s not the case here.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Thomas according to one of the best scouts in the biz
the most instictive safety ever seen, including our own Troy P. FS is a bigger need than both OT and CB. Carter is gone, Clark might leave. Starks and Colon both are or will be signed to long term deals
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Thomas could go 10th overall
and not bew considered a reach. Also since Thomas missed alot of tackles in the game against Bama, I’m gona say that Troy can’t tackle either. He missed alot of tackles in the SB
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Are you serious?
Troy in my opinon is one of the best tacklers in the game. Before the Super bowl i don’t think I can ever recall seeing him miss a tackle. As a Steelers fan hailing from Baltimore, I used to have debates with the Ravens fans as to who is better, Reed or Troy. I think that was one thing that really made troy better than Reed, Reed can’t tackle to save his life, and Troy always makes the tackle
Where did he get his info that Thomas can't tackle
If it’s the Champ game against Bama, then he is tackling a bad game for him and saying we can’t draft him, Then Troy can’t tackle either. Troy is a great tackler, rarely missing. But somebody new coming in see’s Troy missing alot of tackles, that person could lable him a bad tackler. That’s what I’m trying to find out
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
If you want to argue Thomas vs. Bulaga
We can do that, or at least agree to disagree. I don’t like him at 18 with Bulaga still on the board because I think we can get better value in the 2nd – 4th, and drafting well is all about drafting for value. I don’t think he’s as physical or as good a tackler as Troy.
But again, we could argue that all day, citing scouts back and forth and our own opinion.
My point is that we need to stop saying things like “FS is a bigger need than both OT and CB” and as I posted ago, a man with a pretty good track record in the draft agrees:
The approach I favored was a simple one: Draft the best athlete available. The hell with drafting to fill a certain position. There were NFL coaches who looked at positions where they were thin and tried to reinforce them through the draft. There was no better way, I thought, to lose the prospective superstars and pack your roster with garden-variety talent.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
If we had Thomas this past year I know we would’ve won at least 2 mores games this past season. You can’t say FS is not a dire need. I’m sure you watched every garbage QB we faced during that 5 game losing streak throw deep on us at will just like I had to watch it. For years we had the number 1 defense in the league, and as such we focused our 1st round picks mostly on offense. Well now we have a top offense and now it’s the defense that needs to play catch-up. At this point I thinnk our 1st rounder needs to be defense, even if it is Dan Williams. Or Jared Odrick, McClain, or whoever.
The knock on Thomas for not being able to tackle has been completely overblown. Is he the best tackling safety in the draft? Of course he’s not. But he is an All-American safety and the best pure cover safety in the draft. It’s not like the guy’s a bum.
I don’t know how many times I’ve heard so many in Steeler Nation, and even myself, complain about the lack of interceptions by our defense. Drafting Thomas would help remedy that deficiency.
There are 4 top notch tackles in this draft
Bulaga, T Williams, Okung, and A Davis. Most “reputable” mocks have them all going in the top 10. LT’s are always in HIGH demand. If any of these fall to #18, which they wont, Steelers definitely take him. VALUE in this case trumps need, by far, not even close. No way Bulaga makes it all the way to #23 (unless his thyroid starts acting up again).
Cant see Bruce Campbell being picked over any of these guys, but you wisely have the Raiders doing it, so i guess is possible. Picking him that high would be all on potential, as he has no game tape to back it up.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have Thomas back there and he would be a big help to fulfil a big NEED. But a top tier LT that you can plug in and be set for 10 years, with possible multiple pro bowls, Steelers rarely get a chance to get one.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 5, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Tone and Troy
Here is how I imagine it went down for both of them. I can see both of them being very high on the Steelers draft board, Troy i bet could have been top 10, Holmes a top 20 or top 15 talent. The FO sees this as a way to get these players at a bargain, and trades up for them. When they drafted Holmes they had Cedrick Wilson and Nate Washington as well as Ward, he wasn’t a huge upgrade at that time. They probably realized for both that those two were special talents who wouldn’t fall to them so they had to trade up and still get a bargain. And they were right
Sorry, but not liking this AT ALL
Usually in agreement with your past ones, but this one has taken quite a turn.
I’m Ok with Thomas at #1, but if Dan Williams is there, we take him. (We’ll just deal with the 3NT’s issue for the short term).
Linval Joseph in the 2nd??? Scout.com has him listed as #19 ranked DT. CBSportsline has him going in the 5th or 6th round.
I’d much rather go with Dan Williams and Morgan Burnett in the 1st 2 rounds if we’re going FS & NT there.
Sean Lee in 3rd is OK, but I’d rather go for Donald Butler in the 4th, and take a better prospect in the 3rd, say HARDESTY?
Myron Rolle is probably a reach in the 4th. We really need to stop the lovefest with this guy. Football is about INSTINCTS not book smarts. Actually guys that smart may tend to overthink things. There are much better prospects to pick up in the 4th over him.
Linval Joseph did have a kickin’ combine. 5.09 40 at 328 pounds with 39 reps on the 225 bench. He’s a demi-god. Maybe that won’t translate to the field, but it sure seems like it should.
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." TR
I certainly understand your logic but…
Thomas fills a much greater need than Iupati or Williams. Watching Clark and Carter get burned each and every week this past season made me literally sick to my stomach. Thomas would remedy that quickly.
Joesph is a NT. He’s ranked that low as a 4-3 tackle, but as a NT he’s 3rd or 4th. He’s behind Williams, Cody, and probably tied with Cam Thomas as far as potential goes.
Like I stated in my mock, Sean Lee would’ve been a late 1st, early second if it weren’t for his knee injury. If he passes his physical he would be a great value in the 3rd. I love Hardesty but he was bigger need than running back. If he were to last until the 4th I would say great but that’s not going to happen thanks to a good combine performance.
I wouldn’t say I’ve been a part of the Rolle lovefest. But getting him in the 4th would be a good value as well. He’s a solid, albeit unspectacular, player who could develop into a quality back-up which is something we’ve been lacking at the safety position for some time. It’s unrealistic to assume a 4th round pick is going to be a starter.
I love Sean Lee too
But he’s going to need at least a year of weight training because he is small. He doesn’t look like the 236 lbs he’s listed at.
And between Earl Thomas, Buluga (spelling?), and Devin McCourty, who would be better for us?
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 4, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's spelled "Bulaga"
Out of the 3 Thomas fills the immediate need, especially with Carter not going to be resigned and Clack looking like he’s signing elsewhere. We just gave big buck to Starks so he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Colon is a RFA and we can get him on the cheap, besides he’s gotten better every year since he’s started. I’m still confident that wither Joe Burnett or Keenan Lewis can become a solid contributor. It’s too early to write them off as busts. That’s why i haven’t considered mocking the Steelers a CB in any of my mock drafts yet. Unless one of the good ones manages to fall far enough of it to be a great value I don’t think we draft one. It would take Haden slipping to 18, or McCourty or Kyle Wilson slipping to 52 for me to be alright with drafting one.
I'm not confident either of our two young corners will become a #1
I don’t think we’re going to resign Ike, so I feel as if we need a number one corner for the future. We don’t even know if both will be on the roster after training camp. Burnett is a guy I heard a lot about at UCF, so I expect him to eventually move into a starters role as the #2.
If I had to choose right now it would be McCourty.
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 4, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
McCourty is now a legit contender at 18
He was only in the 2nd round because folks thought he was slow. He proved them wrong at the combine.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 4, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
and he'll get that year
since Farrior isn’t going anywhere next season and LeBeau’s playbook is so thick
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Just think Joseph in the 2nd is a BIGTIME reach
I havent seen anywhere where he’s rated in the 2nd round. See attached analysis on him from SPORTSLINE.COM. Seems to have some endurance issues (yes most NT’s do).
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1265317?tag=pageRow;pageContainer
What happened to pickin Troupe? You had him in your last mock. I like him a whole lot better, but in the 3rd.
I agree we got a big need at FS, which is why I think we need to address it in round 2. In round 1 I’m hardup for a lineman. I’d like them to get a lineman and safety in the first 2 rounds and then target the following guys in the middle to late rounds: John Jerry, Hardesty, Donald Butler LB, Ted Larsen C, and Troupe.
Even though I disagree with ya Big Jay on a few of these points, really appreciate the effort you put into producin these mocks. Really adds a lot of value and interest to the site.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 4, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Different year, same fight
Need versus value.
For the most part, the two sides are talking past each other. You build a draft board evaluating both. The key is sticking to your board and drafting the best player on your board. Need is the reason QB won’t be on our board. Value is the reason we may not pick a CB or S in the 1st round after getting gouged all season.
To quote Rooney Jr.:
The approach I favored was a simple one: Draft the best athlete available. The hell with drafting to fill a certain position. There were NFL coaches who looked at positions where they were thin and tried to reinforce them through the draft. There was no better way, I thought, to lose the prospective superstars and pack your roster with garden-variety talent.
I would agree with that
But the fact is that we have to address certain positions not for next year, but for the year after.
Ike’s contract is up after this season, and I don’t feel that we should resign him. You don’t want a starting corner on the wrong side of 30. We’ve been through that before. And I’m not sure either of our two young corners can be a #1 corner. CB needs to be addressed.
I’m not sure what we should do about RG. Will Foster and Urbik improve enough to take it from Essex? Or do we address it in the draft? Essex’s contract is also up after the season and we desperately need an upgrade at that position.
We need quality depth behind Woodley and Harrison. We also need an eventual replacement for Farrior. I think he’s going to bounce back this year but he’s still on his last legs.
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 5, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Big_Jay
How about this as an alternative:
1. Iupati (OG – Idaho)
2. Jones, R. (S – Georgia) or C. Cook (CB – UVA)
3. Jeff Owens (DT – Georgia)
4. Chaney, J (LB – MSST) or Lee, S (LB – PSU)
Sounds good but where would Jeff Owens play? DE? Because he’s not big enough to play NT. And Jamar Chaney will probably go in the 2nd or early 3rd due to a great combine, but he definitely won’t be there in the 4th. I would definitely love to get him there though.
I think Owens weighed in at 320
and stands at about 6-1…Very similar to Big Snack. Played at a pro-caliber program in the SEC and tested great. I could be wrong though.
can't have two snacks like that
it’d be a meal
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Another possible alternative
SBNation has the Steelers taking B. Campbell @ #18. Although he is a T, they say he could play G. Thoughts?
I like the idea of O-line in the 1st, safety 2nd, and LB 3rd, second safety in the 4th, RB 5th.
As such:
1st: Iupati/Pouncey. I think Pouncey’s stock has risen as it’s reported he can play more than just center.
2nd: Nate Allen/Morgan Burnett. I’m quite aware that neither of those guys could be there here, so flip a coin on who’s left, but take either a FS or SS here. Before all the good ones are gone.
3rd: Pat Angerer. I know he’s a tad small, but he’s always around the play. Also, as he’s not as big as the prototypical ILB, he would be less of a liability dropping back in coverage.
4th: Myron Rolle. Yes, Rolle in the 4th, and second safety I want drafted. He’s brilliant, and if anyone things being smart isn’t an asset in this defense, well….I’m not gonna get into it.
5th: Toby Gearhart/Legarett Blount. I like Blount, and I think he could be a great runner with the right guidance. Gearhart because he runs like bulldozer (from what I’ve heard).
No comp picks because it’s still too early to guess, I think. :)
Whatcha think, Jay?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
IMO
I like first 2 rounds. Burnett shoud be there in the 2nd, but would be better if we can get Nate Allen.
Pat in the 3rd looks good, but I just hate that we’re not picking ANY DL in the upper rounds of this draft when it is so DEEP in it. My guy for LB is Donald Butler.
Myron Rolle. This guy is projected by most sites at 5th or 6th round. Scout.com says his stock is falling after the combine (slow 40 and looked stiff in the hips in drills). But because he’s from Oxford, most everyone on this site wants to bump him up to 3rd or 4th round. Book smarts are great, but does that translate to instincts on the field? Hell maybe all them book smarts makes you overanalyze things and actually slows you down. So lets see, he’s had little production on the field and not that great of a combine, but all that is offset by Oxford?
Toby’s stock is rising after the combine and he wont last til the 5th. Will have to snag him in the 3rd if you really want him.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 5, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I know Rolle is projected 5-6, but that doesn't mean one of the struggling teams don't grab him earlier
However, we ARE struggling at safety depth.
Book smarts? Isn’t Coach Dad’s playbook a book? You want to draft a dumb guy so he doesn’t “overthink” on a play?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
LOL
yeah, we need a dumazz at FS. Oh, forgot, we tried that already (Anthony Smith).
Seriously though, all I"m saying is it’s good Myron is NOT dumb and would seem to not have any character issues. But intelligence is not just black and white (i.e. smart/dumb). We need someone to have football smarts, be instinctive, and be quick to read/react. Does Myron Rolle’s oxford intelligence mean he has these attributes? Maybe? Maybe not. He has average physical skills and did not have a standout college career. Just dont see the logic in him going this high. In the 4th there will be better prospects at FS then him.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 5, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Rolle wasn't very spectacular at FSU
He made plays here and there, but he wasn’t as productive as he needed to be. I expect a lot more from a guy that was rated as high as Adrian Peterson.
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone wants him to come here
Just because the guy is a genius and seems to have kept himself in great shape physically doesn’t really change that he wasn’t that good when he played in college
Look, the reason everyone wants him to come here
is we have 2, count ‘em, 2 safeties on the active roster right now. We’re trying to get the best SS and FS available. I’m trying to offer more safeties with my draft, and how many quality safeties will still be there in the 4th round?
People don’t just walk in and play on our defense. It helps if the guy has smarts…hmmmm….anyone you can think of off the top of your head? Oh yeah, MYRON FRICKIN’ ROLLE!!!
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Mundy is pretty smart
And is still on the bench. I didn’t see him make a ton of plays last year.
by StoneColdSteel on Mar 6, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Mundy almost made my season when he laid out Gay...
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
I would be ecstatic about that draft, but I highly doubt Toby Gerhart is going to last until the 5th round. He won’t last beyond the Texans in the 3rd round, unless they sign Thomas Jones in FA. Their need for a short yardage back is too great to pas on him. And I’m hearing the Chargers are pretty enamored with him as well, so if they don’t take Ryan Mathews in the 1st they may target him in rounds 2 or 3.
I’m not a fan of Bruce Campbell at all. I think he’s the next Tony Mandarich. Just another workout warrior who’s incredibly inconsistent.
Good about Campbell
This is my dream draft, BTW, not very realistic, but COULD happen.
I don’t think Gearhart will be there in the 5th either, unless people only see his skin color and think whitey can’t be a power back in the NFL.
I’m starting to like Pouncey better than Iupati because of better versatility in play, but the Steelers are REALLY deep @ center. However, the best they could field last year was Hartwig, which doesn’t say very much about the people behind him, IMHO. Besides, stick him in at RG and see what he can do. He can’t be any worse than Essex…
What about Angerer in the 3rd?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
I like Angerer. I have to admit I didn’t see much of him during the regular season but he wowed me in the Orange Bowl. I’d definitely like to see him in Black ‘N Gold. He’s a little small though which will be a knock on him to play ILB in a 3-4.
Like I said
I know he’s a tad small, but he’s always around the play. Also, as he’s not as big as the prototypical ILB, he would be less of a liability dropping back in coverage.
HUGE advantage over Farrior, IMO.
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
I know Angerer’s supposed to be decent in coverage, and I can’t say that I’ve seen anything firsthand to dispute that…but reading this on the nfl combine website, I have some questions: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/pat-angerer?id=496895
I don’t know how much credit to give their analysis, but after seeing Farrior get smoked by Ray Rice last year, the last thing I want is another ILB who can’t cover a running back on short passing plays.
From that page you linked
Angerer is a smart linebacker. Plays with a high level of toughness and plays bigger than his listed measurables. Possesses the necessary instincts to locate the football and sniff out misdirection plays. Productive career in college. Exhibits leadership qualities you love to see in a middle ‘backer. Athletic player with good range.
Sounds good to me.
Also
Size is a concern for Angerer who is much better when protected by space-eating interior lineman. Is inconsistent with block protection and can be engulfed by larger offensive lineman. Not consistent enough when asked to play man against running backs coming out of the backfield.
Sound a little like Keyaron Fox? Could you imagine Angerer and Fox side-by-side, with Woodley and Harrison on 3rd and long?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Angerer and Fox
Not quite sure what you mean there—you mean if Timmons goes down with an injury?
I wouldn’t be upset with drafting Angerer if we could get him in the 4th or 5th round because I think he’d be a great special teams player, and I also think he could be a passing down replacement for Farrior. He certainly has the speed to line up against a back, so maybe this is something he can improve with training. I’m mostly curious about whether anyone has seen tape of him and whether this is actually evident or not.
Angerer and -Fox- Timmons on 3rd and long
Yeah, I actually forgot about Timmons. It was a long day yesterday, and I was very tired. Can I be forgiven?
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
so
you are going to limit your 1st round draft pick to a 1 down player situational player….. that would make that a wasteful pick
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 11, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...Fox was supposed to be
Fox like that…
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Haha, fair enough
Would we be able to get Angerer later than the 3rd though? I agree with SteelerMessican above, and would be upset with not pickup up any DL in the first half of this draft. Angerer in the 4th would allow us to take someone like Troup in the 3rd, even if we have to package our 4th+a 6th or 7th to move up into the early 4th to get him.
Angerer won't be there in the 4th
and most likely won’t be there when we pick in the 3rd. Like I said, this is only my dream draft, and it’s most likely NOT going to play out the way I want it, so…(shrug)
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Check out Donald Butler
He may be available in the 4th, and he may be a good fit at ILB.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 7, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
tackle over safety
If Baluaga is available , we will obviously take him. Thomas has been in the spotlight and he is gonna play and be a decent NFL safety.But hes not even the best safety available, Burnett and Coleman will be better safeties.And I still think if Iupati is there we will take him. Either Iupati or Baluaga fill a much greater need; getting that caliber of O-lineman is something we really havent had since Faneca.I like how our current guys have improved, and I am really intrigued by this new o line coach and cant wait to see the affect he has. But one of those two would seriously upgrade our line and create a great amount of flexability for our guys.I also think it would add some zest to our power running game withwhat Kemo brings when healthy. Someone I have harped on and will continue to is Jim Cordle from Ohio State; Kiper has him rated as the 8th tackle and that isnt his natural position; center is ,and he can play guard.That kind of flexability is very valuable in the NFL. I also like the Carimi kid from Wisconsin, Byers from USC, Sergio Render from Va. Tech, and I love Nick Charles from AI Force; this kid played tackle at a military academy at 285, in the NFL this guy is a big, athletic,rugged 300+ player.I think we are set for the next 2 years for a serious run at ring number 7, we will have to adress our NT situation in the next 2 drafts, but I feel that our biggest shortcoming is that our oline has no elite athletes.We upgrade here, and we are serious contenders for the next 5 years easily.
I'm not convinced we need oline
I read an article one time that illustrated that a good line has more to do with cohesion and guys playing together for a long time than high draft picks (not always, obviously). The example they used was the Giants during the year the won the Super Bowl. – none of those guys (except maybe one I think) were high draft picks, but the same guys started all season. Notice that our o line got better during 08 as the season went on? I think there is a lot of truth in that theory.
That said, I’d like for the FO to pull the trigger on McClain. He ran a 4.74 today at his pro day. Good or bad news for us?
The O-line if fine
Unless the scouts think there is a top-ten level lineman available, there is no reason to believe they need to address that area until later rounds. They have a young, improving line. Ramon Foster turned heads and made starts as a rookie. He will only get better from here on out.

by 


















