Welcome Back Ryan Clark And Antwaan Randle El
According to Profootballtalk.com the Pittsburgh Steelers have agreed to bring back two players that each won one Super Bowl ring with the club although both were considered long-shots to ever suit up in black and gold again.
Ryan Clark visited the Miami Dolphins earlier today and even hinted publicly that Miami was a good fit. Many Steelers fans had already turned the page on Clark, but his signing will surely allow the Steelers to have more freedom in the 2010 NFL draft.
Antwaan Randel El was one of the heroes of Super Bowl XL, and was cut by the Washington Redskins late last week. It's somewhat difficult to imagine what roll he will play in the 2010 offense, but with the signing of Randle El and today's earlier signing of Arnaz Battle, all signs point to Limas Sweed possibly not showing up on the 53 man roster this year.
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wow
So unexpected. Any ideas on the money involved? Really glad to have him back. Now we can develop a guy we draft
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want them to bury me upside down, so that my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by Johnny_S on Mar 8, 2010 7:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ryan clark that is
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want them to bury me upside down, so that my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by Johnny_S on Mar 8, 2010 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What??
Totally blind sided by both of these. Wow.
Will be interested to hear details. I really hope we didn’t spend too much on these guys.
surprising to say the least
opens up so many options for the draft
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-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois
Beat you too it by 15 min. I should a least get some credit. See Fan Post
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions
Think Arians knows you are aloud to run this play? Better forward it to him…
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
I think his head would explode
and he would wonder where the 2nd/3rd tight end is
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
arians would do this play in a heartbeat . . .
. . . but only if ben pitched to sean mchugh who would then pitch it to matt spaeth who would the toss it to heath miller running the post . . . this play was made for tight ends man!!
We need more tight ends
can never have enough tight ends
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I personally
would love to have a tight end. Middle age spread is hell…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
we need a TMI flag around here ;)
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
A shame you saw that AC....
I have the # of a great therapist if you need it…lol
His father and I
made it our life’s work to make sure that our children had plenty to tell their therapists. I expect he would be grateful for the number.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 9, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
if those are the numbers than it probably means its a two year deal and he will be cut after that…now way we pay him 7 mil. in the last year of that contract at that age.
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Mar 8, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
what?
You mean 17 for the entire contract?
"When my time on earth is gone, and my activities here are passed, I want them to bury me upside down, so that my critics can kiss my a**!"
-Bobby Knight
by Johnny_S on Mar 8, 2010 7:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
*cough, cough* over paid *cough cough*
lol just my opinion. guestimating would leave the next 3 years being 4 mil a piece. maybe they paid him more the first year since it was uncapped.
Someone said 5 in the first year
I’d bet he gets cut before he sees the rest of that money.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
i'm very curious how his contract breaks down
maybe they gave him a lot his first year to count as the signing bonus, thus having it all against the uncapped year. then there isn’t that much until his last year again. i dont really see him lasting until 35 either.
any terms?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I'm crying.
I had this weird feeling after Antwaan got cut by the skins that he’d be back. I’m so happy to see him in the black and gold and hopefully finish his career here. Does he still have gas left in the tank? I think 2 years worth. The hammer will swing again for the boys of Steel. I like it. The pick up of Allen should make for a fun competition in training camp. Now here’s where the tears get bad. Sweed. Oh god no. Team Sweed is done. I’m canceling my membership. I’m telling you guys that if he blows up on some other team I’m going to be super upset. But we don’t have time for shenanigans. We need to win #7 soon. Randle El helped us get one, in the most memorable way possible. I think he can help us do it again.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
Well if nothing else
a few months in jail might get him some good practice at juking and dodging big guys trying to take him down.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
by Gina on Mar 8, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like how you look on the positive side of things
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he needs to practice
how to avoid big guys trying to take him down. Just money hungry women.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
sweed
I hope that one more vet like randle el will help straighten out sweed. I’m still on the limas bandwagon for one more year. I wonder with the addition of randle el, what the future holds for logan making the team. I know tomlin was pushing for him to get some time in the offense last year.
by ironmike55 on Mar 8, 2010 7:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Can he play TE?
If not I don’t see him making our team. Lol
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
logan may yet be back
Randle el is not much of a returner any more from what (admittedly little) I know… If Tomlin was willing to use a roster spot on a returner last year, I don’t know why he wouldn’t be this year… That said, I don’t consider little logan a lock by any means…
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
joe burnett is our return man of the future
he fumbled it twice in preseason last year, but lets not forget he was a two time all american at PR
aw, come on
what could be better than dookie rumbling straight towards the nearest tackler? ;P
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
I think Tomlin is heating his seat. Use it or lose it.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
by YeOldeMexFan on Mar 9, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Why so many WR? Isn’t that one white boy supposed to be the next Wes Welker because he had a catch last year?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I'm pretty sure a lack of white skill position players
is what’s been holding this team back.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I would think that Boldin would be enough!
Well trade Grisham to you for Gaither!
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan
"[T]he Steelers have been evil pieces of crap for a long time who play dirty and seek to injure their opponents, and one day there will be a reckoning."
FriarBob
Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 8, 2010 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mr MaLor I would shout your racist slurs in the Inner Harbor in Baltimore
then see how far you get.
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Slur?
I didn’t see a slur there… People have compared Tyler Grisham (stupidly) to Welker. And for no real reason that I can see.
Malor’s got plenty of faults (mostly his taste in teams) but I don’t know if that statement should indict him of racism.
by Chicago Steeler on Mar 8, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
he can't be racist
he has a black president
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah didnt see that as racist
He may be an annoying fu—-ker, but every once in a while, he actually says something pretty funny. Have to laugh with him on this one.
by SteelerMessican on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
You called Tyler Grisham white. Don’t deny it.
by Blount Trauma on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
yaeh..don't be white
it ain’t kewl, dontcha know?
Don't call me white! Don't caaaall me white!
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
4 receivers: Ward Holmes Wallace and Randle-El.
I think Ward moves down the order and Wallace Holmes and Randle-El are our main three this year or next. That much speed really frees up Ward against lesser coverage and Randle-El can get some slot time where he can be dangerous.
Also El is another option at returns. Maybe Battle takes Logan’s spot, or Sweed stays as a fifth, will be interesting to see.
Hold on there one second.
Hines Ward is not dead. Hines is 33. There are only 11 guys in the history of the game who have caught more balls than he has in his career. Of those guys most were feature receivers in throwing offenses for most of the careers. Now what’s interesting is most of those guys (the ones who are retired or older) played great football at age 34, 35 and many at age 36. Most of them dropped off significantlly by age 37 – although one or two were productive after that.
My point is that 34 is a viable age for a receiver, especially a receiver who works in the slot. If Hines can stay injury free and keep those Hammy’s loose, there is no reason why he can’t have 2 or possibly 3 more high quality years.
Let’s give the old man some damn respect and not prematurely demote him in favor of Randle-El, who, love as I might, did not have half the year last year of Herr Hines.
Sorry to get all passionate on you skippy, but 86 is a civic treasure in my mind, let’s not bury him (even on depth chart) till the time has come.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And even on one knee
Hines is a better receiver than Randle El.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Ward will never get freed up
Every defensive coordinator knows what he’s capable of. No one in their right mind would overlook him. Especially to put more coverage on Antwaan. I love Ward. BTW today is his birthday. I and about 15,000 people wished him HB on Facebook. Point is that he is not declining. A slot receiver needs to run crisp routes, have great hands, timing, and be tough as nails. Randle El is not that guy. Hines epitomizes it.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
And yet Hines still does get open....
…even after all these years :-)
yeah . . . ward caught 95 balls last year . . .
i think randle el caught a third of that . . . so . . .
30 balls
from campbell is not too shabby
by indianasteelers on Mar 8, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
El-Yeah caught 50 for 530 – not bad.
but Ward caught 95 for 1167 – just another workman like year on the road to Canton.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Think when it's all said and done
Hines is a first ballot?
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
hard to say
Probably not at this stage, but it all depends on his next 3-4 years. If he continues to play at a high level, pulls another ring (or two!) – than absolutely. Anything less – and it might take some time, but he will get there.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt
I can see Hines having another solid 2 years. 86 is my hero. :]
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 9, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
had to rec that
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
Whoa, man I’m sorry. I said that badly.
I didn’t make my point well here, I’m a huge Ward fan, he ranks right alongside Darrell Green and is in my top 5 favorite players all time. I in no way meant to say he’s not a viable receiver anymore.
The point I wanted to make was how defenses will cover us. Holmes Wallace and Randle-El all can catch balls if they are open, unlike Sweed or Washington. They are all also quite fast. I think we all saw good veteran corners do well against Ward last year, he’s still got the hands, the route running and the intangibles, but his speed isn’t there. If we have three threats around him though, coverage is going to be lesser on Ward, and he will tear up.
Also because we have Wallace and Holmes that play well outside Randle-El can play in the slot as well, where I think he can be very dangerous.
I was quite excited last night and hadn’t slept after working the night shift because my daughter was sick.
I don't think
you get higher praise than that…
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hines Ward is always Ben’s #1 target. No matter where he lines up.
by Phantaskippy on Mar 9, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless it's next to a women's bathroom...
(I know, I know- I am ashamed of myself. But I couldn’t help it…)
Quick thoughts
- I live in DC, and Randle El hasn’t looked like the player he once was. Hopefully that’s because he’s been flanker instead of in the slot, but I’m worried he doesn’t have the burst left.
- I’m not sure it spells the end of Sweed. Randle El could be back-up to Ward and more of an inside guy with Wallace and Tone on the outside.
- Too bad there may be no one to throw to them. We need to sign / draft a backup QB with starter capability. Brittle Batch and Pencil-legs Dixon aren’t gonna get it done.
- Between Ryan Clark and Will Allen, Willis McGahee has to be hoping he gets cut so he doesn’t have to face the Steelers.
- Ryan Clark, this is your chance to prove that last year you were injured or suffered without Troy, because you weren’t getting it done.
- For that reason, i hope the coaching staff creates a competition at safety, and doesn’t just hand it to Clark.
- I’m concerned we’re spending too much money and keeping folks around at the expense of roster spots and playing time for younger players. As happy as I am to see these two back, I actually preferred the days when we let our older, over-the-hill free agents walk.
- But I’m happy to see that the Steelers are, once again, pursuing a free agency strategy that allows them to draft the best athlete available without an immediate need.
drafting a back up catcher with starter potential
would mean using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on one. I imagine they’d have to be EXTREMELY concerned about Big Ben to use that high of a resource on a back up.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Why hate on Dixon?
I think he shows tremendous potential. He acquitted himself quite well against the Ravens for one half of play. That’s better than most QBs. Unfortunately they switched to zone defense and stopped blitzing in the second half and his hot reads weren’t bailing him out anymore. Going through the progressions against a complex zone was too much for him in his first start.
I say give the skinny kid a chance.
by Chicago Steeler on Mar 8, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
He’s one player I really like. It may be wishful thinking, but I think Dixon has a lot of upside.
As for all the free agent moves by the Steelers, well, this is one of the best offseasons I can remember. Well, aside from the Big Ben being an asshole thing. That’s a mood killer.
I agree
Dixon showed plenty of potential against the Ravens after being thrust unexpectedly into a nearly impossible situation.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan
"[T]he Steelers have been evil pieces of crap for a long time who play dirty and seek to injure their opponents, and one day there will be a reckoning."
FriarBob
Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 8, 2010 8:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hey . . . if dixon doesn't get hurt his senior year at oregon . . .
there would have been a good chance he wins the heisman and oregon wins the national championship (and he ends up with another team!) . . . and tebow would be running tight end routes at the combine (whilst bruce arians touches his bathing suit area inappropriately) . . . sorry, had to work an arians dig somehow . . .
And you've officially convinced me
that if tebow falls far into the 2nd or 3rd round we will be picking him and turning him into some sort of tight end qb hybrid.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
lol . . .
i am ruing the day when arians devises a five-wide all tight end set with sean mchugh in motion in the backfield . . . on 3rd and two no doubt . . .
Hahaha
Oh I can see it now.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
draft tebow
then you can go with a 5 TE set, and have them block for tebow as the QB/RB/TE – 6 TEs on the field!!!!
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
I hope Arians doesn't read this
he might just think we’re being serious and take it as a recommendation next year. Lol
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
well, put it this way
it would be the first time he listened to us!! ;)
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
Hooray!
BTSC is influencing!
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I just noticed
your signature line, young man. Wait until your father gets home… : )
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and I like your plan.
I think it has real potential…
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
lol
thats funny stuff. Now…any tips on getting that visual out of my head?
by indianasteelers on Mar 8, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong
I don’t dislike Dixon. He acquitted himself ok in his one game. But even ignoring the pick, he was running a stripped-down, run-first offense, got thrown off kilter by a change in scheme, and the coaching staff admitted they didn’t roll him out more because they were worried he’d get hurt. So, he’s shown he’s average at best for now — with potential, which is great.
But can any of you see him getting through 16 games without getting injured? And if he does, how long does Charlie Batch (another high-character guy with an injury history) last?
We need to look seriously at our QB situation and find at least one more guy. I think they should have resigned leftwich back in the day, and if they can pick up someone like that again it would be great. As for the draft, if one of the top names slide or one of the guys with potential (LeFevour, Snead) fall to 4th or later I’d start looking at them.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
On Dixon and the Qb situation
I agree that Dixon appears to be fragile. But it’s hard to see the potential of a QB if you’re scared to let him shine. You just have to hope he stays safe and our linemen do their job the best they can. I’m also on your side of people who wanted to see Lefty come back and back up ben. He did great when thrown in in DC. I want to see us make him an offer. He isn’t getting a starting job on any other team at the moment and he praised our organization after he left. But if Lefty doesn’t come back I feel fine with Dixon getting some reps when Ben goes down. I only pray that he hits the weight room and bulks up some.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, Dixon is my QB after Ben goes down / incarcerated
Just looking for someone to back up Dixon, because I don’t have faith he won’t get hurt, is all.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 8, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
of course
if Tebow drops past the 3rd do you think the Steelers would take him?
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
No clue
But I would take him in the 4th. Be shocked if he gets that far, though.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 8, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
no, no, and NOOOOOO!!
basically, even the mechanically correct florida qb’s tank it in the nfl . . .
Tim Tebow
Do you realize that he is the current Heizman Trophey winner, Tebow will be gon before the Steelers are up to draft.
Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"
by SteelersChatPack on Mar 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
BPA
With all these vets on the roster the Steelers can now draft BPA in every round. There will be plenty of competition at every position and in the end some of these guys may not even make the 53.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
I also think the steelers have resigned alot of older players and hopefully we can draft for the future and let the younger player learn behind the vets. Then when there time comes to play they are ready. The steelers could use a ilb, nt, fs, cb, ot to learn and take over for the older guys in a couple of seasons.
Happy day?
Great to see these two back, especially El. The only thorn in our side right now is the status of the face of our franchise, which may or may not be the next celebrity mugshot. I’ll say this though: if by some miracle this case is dismissed and Ben proven innocent, we’re gonna put the New Orleans Superbowl Mardigraw to shame.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Mar 8, 2010 8:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think our QB is going to be charged with something
It is clearly not rape even the cops said that today. If it is sexual assault then depending what went on he will probably get of with probation.
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
i think it will boil down to a he said she said thing . . .
though ben is a lunkhead (hate to say it) . . .
Can Ben be on permanent lockdown during this Mardi Gras?
by Chicago Steeler on Mar 8, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely
Ben gets to sit in a box plastered with the image of Big Snack, in his photoshoot for that ESPN The Magazine “nude athletes” issue for the duration of the celebration.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Mar 8, 2010 9:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh Jesus I know exactly what you're talking about.
Anyone seen the pictures of Tory Holt’s fingers? That is one studly dude to keep playing through that painfully looking set of hands
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've had my finger dislocated like that
just not as far down my finger. It is painful. My finger is still fatter than the other one.
incidentally Holt hurt his finger against us.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
hmmmm . . . i have a hunch that all of these signings (i.e. bodies) . . .
may indicate that the steelers may want to trade up in the first round . . . though i’m not sure who they would be eyeballing . . .
I believe
Rolando McClain ILB outta Alabama, or an OT like Bulaga.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm lovin me some McClain
The Clark resigning makes him my new #1 dream draft pick.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan
"[T]he Steelers have been evil pieces of crap for a long time who play dirty and seek to injure their opponents, and one day there will be a reckoning."
FriarBob
Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ben
What I still cannot understand is, why is a 28 year old multi millionaire hanging around small town college bars. You gotta question his maturity as much as anything else. He’s still innocent til proven guilty, but damn Ben, grow up.
by VinniePie on Mar 8, 2010 8:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
why is tom crusie married to Katie holmes?
so she can have his alien love child
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
This just in
The Steelers have now made offers to
Larry Foote
Joey Porter
Dan Krieder
They also traded William Gay, , Tryone Carter and Ubrik
For Bryant McFadden, Chris Hope and Alan Faneca.
Rumor has it that Rod Woodson is planning to come out of retirement to compete in the defensive backfield and at the kick returner.
It’s shaping up to be quite a season.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
owch!
"You know how football is - if your mother's on the other team and you're coming out to play football, you're gonna hit momma" --L.C. Greenwood
I bet Rod
still has it, he can show Ocho stinko a real HOF jacket after he humiliates him
by indianasteelers on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
The first thing I think if when I hear the word Maddox
Is Rashean Mathis trotting into the EZ in overtime. One of my top 5 worst Steelers memories.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan
"[T]he Steelers have been evil pieces of crap for a long time who play dirty and seek to injure their opponents, and one day there will be a reckoning."
FriarBob
Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You had me
until Dan Kreider.
To try and fail may be unacceptable, but failing to try, is accepting failure.
What have you been smoking, SteelerBuddha?
It must be pretty strong stuff.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Good to know
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hey seriously
Randle-El. That’s just fun. It’s rare that you get to bring a hometown hero back. It made me miss some of those other guys.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would say Neil ODonnell
but i prefer not to get banned
by indianasteelers on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
You're being watched as of now.
/no, not really
WOW
Consider my mind blown. Can’t wait to see who we get in the draft.
With the resigning of Clark, maybe we got Will Allen to play TE.
These all seem like pretty solid signings.
an i throw an idea out there might we use randle el as a third qb? assuming we dont have batch come back as a player for the team. cause i cant see us needing any more wrs. he did play qb in college for Illinois i believe.
by guns dont kill people pittsburgh does on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I've been saying that ever since
word came down the wire the Skins cut him
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Or I wonder if the steelers will try a completely new strategy and go BPA.
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
a new strategy? that's their strategy since the 70s
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 8, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa, seriously?
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
I'm pretty sure there's no chance QB will be near the top of their draft board.
More like. LB, OL, DB(corner depth is still needed and it’s unlikely Clark will see the latter year of his deal), DL, and hell maybe TE, WR and RB will be drafted before they draft a qb.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
I agree with your list
With the caveat that the TE should be a late-round blocker. I will say, though, that I think a mid-round QB is definitely in the cards. They need to be realistic and think about the possibility of life without ben.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 8, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think there's any chance of life without Ben at this point
unless the steelers released him. Even if he ended up being charged with sexual assault, which at this point seems iffy, I doubt he’d get more than probation.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
In fact it seems if he was charged
it would be with a misdemeanor, based on the information about the case I’ve heard.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
and a six to eight game suspension by goodell . . . or . . . even the rooney's . . .
which i couldn’t really argue with . . .
I doubt it
It’s his first offense, since I don’t think the commissioner will put much stock in the civil suit, at the very most maybe he’d get a 2 game suspension but I imagine if he agreed to do some sort of charity work or something he wouldn’t even get that.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
plus...
if he has to go door to door in his neighborhood, thats punishment enough
by indianasteelers on Mar 8, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
"Hi my name is Ben Rothelisberger. I'm a registered sex offender. I'm living in your neighborhood."
Me- “can I have your autograph.”
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hi my name is SoCalSteelerFan
I’m a huge Steeler fan. Not that big a fan of Ben *Roethlisberger. Derrr
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
What are you smoking and can I have some
by steeler_in_maryland on Mar 8, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
It's fantastic. pre 98 Kush
and no you cannot. Drugs are bad mmmkay?
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 9, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Plus this is a pretty qb weak draft
Unless someone unexpectedly plummets a 4th round qb would probably be an overdraft. Plus I wouldn’t be totally shocked if they brought in another pass catching tight end, I’m sure Arians would be frothing at the mouth at the thought of 2 tight end sets with two pass catching threats or three tight ends sets.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Prophetic
I want some props for calling the Randle El signing! Seriously, great signings today, Randle El as a number 4 receiver is a luxury very little teams have and the safety situation just got plenty better. Battle is a special teams stud that should help the team too…
Good day today!
Consider it unleashed!
i was just discussing that with my friend…McClain will be expensive to move up to get. According to the draft trade value chart. Pick number 10 is worth 1300points….our pick at 18 is worth 900, 2nd rounder 400, 3rd 180, 4th 66, 5th 33, and 6th 21. This means we have to give up a 1st and 2nd to move up to 10….way to much in a loaded draft.
I think our pick should be Maurkice Pouncey C/G Florida at 18
I still have hope
1. the Jags are desperate
2. the trade value chart is more of a guideline than rule
I say we at least try to pull it off, or hope that denver doesn’t pick up mcclain
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 9, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
yeah I think I've read reports
that a lot of teams consider the trade value chart to be pretty outdated.
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Have no idea
but thats why you make deals, see what Jacksonville will take
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 9, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I figured there was a slim shot of us resigning Clark, but I had no clue that we were even looking at Randle El. I was expecting us to give Sweed one last shot, but seeing as he’s been quite terrible so far, i shouldn’t have been surprised by us signing Randle El.
I see Randle El as a good #3 receiver behind Tone and Ward, and he should definitely bring back that trick play mindset that the Steelers used so well for so many years.
I wonder
if they are planning to send Sweed to Texas. Maybe he’s so unhappy that everyone decided it would be best.
"You learn more in failure than you do in success." - Mike Tomlin
by momma rollett on Mar 8, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy
I like it. I, for one, like Clark. Yeah, Troy makes anyone look better, But I love how Clark hits, and now we have the luxury of developing a draft pick.
Hines and Santonio with Mike Wallace, Battle and Randle El pushing each other, hell yeah!
Now for some big (full) backs — Welcome Back Dan Krieder!!! I know, I know…
First you must assasinate the evil that is Brucey TE Arains
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
OK
it’s just me, but I find the Randle-El signing a bit puzzling.
Last year we threw the ball 536 times for about 351 receptions. Only a few teams GB, Ariz, IND, NO, threw more than us. Of those teams I can’t think of a team that had 4 high level WR’s that each caught 50 plus balls. Now think about Ward and Tone are each good for about 70-90 balls. Wallace should be in the 50 range. Heath should have about 80. If somebody explain to Arians that you are allowed to throw the ball to the RB’s Mendy could get to 50.
Is it me or does that not leave any balls for El-Yeah? Not to say that he doesn’t have value as a back-up, gadget guy. But I wonder if he even gets to play much unless someone goes down?
Having said that, we just became MUCH better at converting 3rd and long.
Does Randle-El become more of a threat
with less playing time?
Maybe?
All that ball counting is making me dizzy
I don’t know who catches what, but we just have more talent at the position and that’s good news. Sometimes you just have to enjoy good news. Big Ben will take care of the other kind soon enough…
Goodbye Limas, it was great picking you ahead of Ray Rice, have a speedy recovery from your mysterious sickness and don’t drop your plane ticket on the way to the airport.
Consider it unleashed!
fair enough
I’ll stop counting balls. Ahem.
How about receivers.
I am not complaining mind you, four starters is great, but all things equal I would rather have two starting corners and three starting receivers than our current configuration of one starting corner and four starting receivers.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 8, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Draft day will settle everyone down some I presume.
Brian: Face it Peter, you get competitive about everything.
Peter: I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
by SoCalSteelerFan on Mar 8, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Two starters
Hines and Tone number one and two. Weekly battle for the no. 3 job between El and Wallace and a camp fight for number 5 on the roster between Logan, Sweed, Battle and Grisham. Nice setup.
Buddha, I agree, let’s see what they do about retooling at corner. Let’s not forget we have two second year corners, though, and that’s usually when guys start to contribute in Lebeau’s defense.
Consider it unleashed!
how about
3a and 3b, I would hate to choose one over the other, Wallace looked really good last year,and with another offseason under his belt he could be awesome this season. On the other hand El has the abilty to do so many things you would definitley want him on the field whenever you can.
by indianasteelers on Mar 9, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Quality Depth at WR
Holmes, Ward, Wallace, Randle-El, Battle, Sweed, Grisham… Logan
There’s not enough room for everyone. Possibly Sweed gets new scenery to pursue his career elsewhere. If not, there’s going to be a healthy competiton get on the roster, and to get ‘a hat’ on game days, particularly between Sweed, Battle, and Grisham, who I imagine after putting in work on the practice squad, would like to crack the lineup.
Ward’s hammy has been an issue for years. Last year we had a problem with depth after starters went down at other positions. Should Ward go down again, Randle-El should be able to “make plays” from the slot.
While Arians hasn’t drawn up as many effective wild n’ crazy plays as say Whiz or Mularkey or Gailey or Earhardt for that matter, I think not having Alan Faneca and top-end athletes like Slash Stewart, Dermonti / Jeff Hartings, and Randle-El could be large reasons why. Pretty much any offensive coordinator would appreciate a new playmaker.
I still think they should look at making Sweed a cornerback.
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
by SteeladyinVA on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I'm as confused as some others
I love Randle El and his contribution to the team leaves me with a nostalgic joy, but the truth is that he’s not the player he was when he left. Holmes and Wallace are the future. Hines is still a big contributor and we have other options with less tread wear. Why go this way? Are they looking for a gimmick type player? Another mentor for Sweed? What’s up?
return man?
yeah i really don’t get it either. Maybe they plan on running a lot of 4 wide sets?
"We have a plan, and our plan, I like our plan'
it's Omar's world, we're just livin in it.
Thats amazing
Glad to see El back. He may not be what he use to but he was a likable player, so happy day. The WR corp just got FUBAR (in a good way). Obviously, Ward, Holmes, and Wallace are in, but whos out?
We have El, Battle, Sweed, Grisham, and Logan…..
- El, I think hes, can’t explain why.
- Battle, I look at him the same way I did McDonald last year (except McDonald was better). Good slot guy, but I don’t think he’ll stick around.
- Sweed, I’m still not giving up on Sweed. All these WR signings don’t look good for him but I’ve got a feeling he has one more year. Hes got too much potential to throw away, he just needs to get his head straight.
- Grisham, practice squad…
- Logan, hope he stays but there is no telling.
Now as far as Safety is concerned...
The Clark signing seems like a good move, depending on how it’s structured.
Clark produced pretty well in ’06 until a groin injury, in ’07 before gall bladder, spleen, and sickle cell, and then on the Super Bowl #1 ranked D in ’08… but not so good in ’09.
We are banking on Polamalu making a full recovery. We recently added Will Smith who started just 26 games in 6 years and recorded 4 career INTs. We know what Tyrone Carter can and can’t do, and we hope Ryan Mundy takes big steps this year. Possibly Deshea or CB Lewis possibly could move to Safety. Are you satisfied? Provided the mentality is to take nothing for granted, are the pieces in place in this secondary?
Well dang it, problems of quality and depth in the secondary were exposed last year, or more plainly, we got toasted last year! Cutler on about his 2nd day with a new team and not many offensive weapons beyond a speedy rookie Knox, slung it around awhile and found enough for a W. Bruce Gradkowski tossed it up to a speedy rookie for yards and scores and yards and scores. The struggling Chiefs with/without an offensive coordinator had their way. Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay’s very good offense seemed unstoppable., etc., etc. So Troy’s coming back… We good? Which brings me to…
Alex Marvez is a Senior NFL Writer for FOXSports.com at has this to say about a certain free agent safety:
Darren Sharper: He’s a savvy leader coming off the best season of his 13-year NFL career for a Super Bowl winner. But at age 34, Sharper isn’t going to land the kind of lucrative contract that his play warrants. As each day passes in free agency, New Orleans general manager Mickey Loomis looks wiser and wiser for not using a $6 million franchise tag on Sharper. Barring an unexpected windfall from elsewhere, it looks like Loomis will have a chance to re-sign Sharper for a lot less.
I ask you this, how great would it be to have Ryan Clark backing up Darren Sharper and Troy Polamalu? “That’s crazy!”, you say? “We can’t afford it.” His game has been very good for years. This instinctive ball-hawking centerfielder who can also lay wood still has it, and would give Polamalu ultimate flexibility to do everything, making him, dare I say it, even more dangerous. LeBeau is someone who would maximize their abilities. Baltimore just acquired Boldin to go with Rice and Mason plus Stallworth, Heap, and Washington/Williams. Are we prepared to shut them down?
Think value. It’s what Steelers front office does. Apparently even after Sharper’s excellent Super year last year, he’s not fetching a ton of interest in the market. Thank goodness it was Porter who made that play in the Super Bowl and not Sharper- because now is our chance to talk with him, at reasonable fair value, weighting bonus money towards this uncapped year.
Eric Berry will not be availabe at #18, and if he were to unexpectedly fall to #10/11, it would require our second round pick and a willing partner in Jacksonville or Denver.
Yes, we have Holmes and Woodley and more guys due up. We must plan carefully. And I say Sharper is potentially a good value signing that won’t break long-range budgets. Let’s take advantage of the Packers’ decision to not franchise him; we wouldn’t lose picks. Let’s structure the bonus into this special uncapped year. He’s a guy that could make plays to save or steal games in a Division race and in the Playoffs. We want to make multiple Super Bowl runs the next few years. And this would be a continuation on that path. Think value.
Correction: Apologies to Will Allen
I thought the quoted portion would be indented and in quotations.
And obviously I mean Will Allen, not Will Smith (and not Jazz or Uncle Phil)
I agree with your points on Sharper.
I know he is old, but he still demands respect on the field. I think if he stays in FA for a while, we would be wise to sign him. The only problem with that is our resigning of Clark. I think it’s time for us to focus on our CB’s now and leave the other positions alone. On top of that now this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down, and I’d like to take a minute just sit right there, I’ll tell you how I became the Prince of a town called Bel-Air.
We increased our offensive production by 1,000 yards but our points by only 3 touchdowns?
-Johnny_S
Bungles
Tank
Stupidly like
Clockwork
I got in one little fight, and my mom got scared
"OOH! A piece of candy. OOH! A piece of candy."
-James Woods
Personally I had been thinking about Sharper with Polamalu on the run, almost freak.
O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.
Quick, someone call Whisenhunt and have him fax over the 04 playbook.
Just the gadget play section. With El and Ward together again, I would love to see a return to them.
We increased our offensive production by 1,000 yards but our points by only 3 touchdowns?
-Johnny_S
Bungles
Tank
Stupidly like
Clockwork
Signing averts crisis
Ahh. I was beginning to panic. The secondary was looking pretty thin there.
With Clark headed to free agency, our apparent starting free safety was Mundy. I like Mundy, but he needs work. And slim chance any rook FS can play center field for us right off the bat.
With an injury-prone Troy we were left with Ike as the only reliable starter in the whole secondary. As such, I still appreciate the move for the backup safety Allen. We have him signed for at least three years, so I suppose he’ll be the FS/SS backup we need.
Bottom line to this ramble: I’ll bet on an OL man at #18.
The real winners here are all those with the old Randel-El jerseys
Wonder if he gets his old # back? Will all the Randel -El fans have to have both versions?
Unless
Yancey Thigpen suddenly demands to have 82 retired, El should get his # back..:)
by BlackandGoldSSgt on Mar 11, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome! I love it! Totally unexpected too, I am pleasantly surprised!
Antwaan Randle El is going to help, big time!
And I’m glad to see Ryan Clark still with us now
I don’t mean to change the subject here, but, what position is going to be our 1st Round pick now?
With Casey Hampton resigned, it won’t be NT now
Middle Linebacker maybe?
I think...
They’ll go with the best available OL/DB/LB, in that order, I would think. But let’s see if there are other FA signings…
Consider it unleashed!
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