Yeah I talked to B.A. and I talked to Mike about my role. My role...right at this point, they want me to come in a be the #3 receiver, the third receiver if something happens to Santonio or Hines. If I got to go play outside, I can go play outside and am certainly capable of doing that, then coming back inside or whatever. Then, we haven't really talked about punt returns that much to be quite honest with you. But at the same time, Mike made sure to make it clear to me that it's a competition and you need to come out, get the work done. And I'm not coming back playing for Cowher, so I got to continue to go out and show and prove....even though Mike knows I can play, he still wants to see it, because I'm not one of his guys, if you know what I mean. But I am one of his guys now, but I wasn't one of the first when he first got here. So I know I got to go out and continue to show and continue to prove that I'm supposed to be out on the field just like they brought me here to do so. And if it means being the third or playing the two or doing some punt returns, then that's what I got to do.
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I'm a little surprised
to hear about the role BA and MT discussed with him. I see him as a definite punt returner and the back-up/speller for Ward and Holmes and someone who will split duties with Wallace.
I know Wallace had some drops and miscues, but to just hand it over to a new guy without the regular talk of competition? I suspicious, seems like El is taking more than he was offered.
If I read it correctly, he said
that he would be #3 IF Hines or Tone went down. That makes it sound like a backup – speller type person.
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by momma rollett on Mar 9, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Which would mean that
Wallace would be the regular #3 and would move up to #2 if Tone or Hines is injured. Then El moves up to #3. That makes El the regular #4 receiver – right?
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
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by ekl on Mar 9, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think
Wallace would continue to be the #3 and ARE would leap frog him to the slot/ #2.
Ok, so El
is really the #1 backup at slot or outside. Makes since because Wallace is really a stretch the field guy.
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
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by ekl on Mar 9, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
since = sense.
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
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by ekl on Mar 9, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yes you are correct.
It will be interesting to see how things shake out. I think Wallace is going to be even better this year, so El has a fight on his hands if he thinks he is going to just slide into that spot.
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
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by ekl on Mar 9, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not getting the vibe that he thinks anything has been handed to him
sounds more like he gets it that this is a different team than from when he was here before, and that he understands he needs to show he’s got some juice left in the tank.
Not that it makes much of a difference, but I would find it very hard to believe that Randle El isn’t light years ahead of 2009’s # 4 receivers as far as production.
Contrary to all of the Sweed getting kicked to the curb talk, maybe coming into camp as the last receiver relieves some pressure on him? I hope so, because he’s shown some magic in how wide open he gets. Hate to see that kind of talent go to waste.
since was right
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Hmmm
So if I understand this correctly he was not one of his guys but now he is one of his guys because at first he wasn’t first, and then when coach first got here, and he got here first, he couldn’t be one of his first guys because he wasn’t one of the first to be one of his guys.
Consider it unleashed!
Yea I'm not buying into
Mike Wallace losing that much time. Sure El will get his oppurtunities, but it’d be more than foolish not to put the better player on the field more often, which at this point, is no question Mike Wallace.
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by HighSchoolSteeler on Mar 9, 2010 5:59 PM EST reply actions
This is good for Wallace
Both of these guys are going to work hard for that #3 spot. Training camp is going to be pretty competitive this summer…I like it.
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I'm not sure
but he did say the 3rd receiver if Hines or Holmes go down. That would make him the 4th if everyone is healthy (El behind Wallace). His statement is very confusing but this may be what he meant.
Time will tell
I think it's pretty clear
He says the number 3 if something happens to the other guys. Anything else simply doesn’t make sense.
None of the top three guys is going anywhere barring injury:
Hines is playing great football. He caught 95 balls last year and there is no reason to expect him to drop off much this year.
Wallace picked up nearly 800 yards in the air as a Rook. Only Tone and Louis Lipps had more in Steeler history in the rookie years. And the kid is just going to get better and better.
Tone is the best receiver we have at the moment.
Which means ARE is #4. The good news is that ANYONE (ok almost anyone – sorry Limas) should be able to go out there and look good with those three guys stretching the field.
by SteelerBuddha on Mar 9, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
yea, i like our WR corp
arguably, now, the most deep in the league. As of right now; Ward, Holmes, Wallace, Randle El, Battle, Sweed, Logan, Grisham. Those first 5 can all be in the top 3 for any team.
Number 3
Pretty sure he means the #3 behind Holmes and Ward, not necessarily “#3” overall.
Some fans tend to view all WRs as interchangeable and ranked in order. In reality they have more defined roles.
From my understanding (correct me if wrong, would love someone smarter to do a post on this), Hines lines up in the slot in our base 3-WR set. Holmes is a flanker on the outside, and he’s capable of running the whole route tree. Wallace (formerly Washington) tends to use speed to open up space underneath for the short and intermediate routes of the other WRs and TEs.
So i think Wallace is still the #3 in that sense. And also that Sweed still has a role if he shows something as a backup outside guy. ARE and Battle can both play inside (Ward) or out (Holmes) as needed, though ARE has the better track record.
by syrsteelerfan on Mar 9, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This is more like what I took from his comments.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
So god forbid
Holmes goes down to injury. Who fills his spot? Not sure Ward is still fast enough to run the entire “route tree” and Wallace still doesn’t have the crispest routes. Is Randle El up to that task? Or do we believe Wallace will be there by the season?
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Combo of Randle El and Wallace
Randle El as the veteran would be the short-term option, hoping that Wallace continues to improve enough to take it over. Then the two would switch (younger legs and all….).
Hm?
We haven’t seen Wallace play a 2 spot yet, right?
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From what I remember in the balt AFCCG
if Ward went down Sweed would come in I don’t know who would come in
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
I know this isn't going to be too popular, BUT
we need to make sure we have a capable guy to throw it to them to make them all they can be.
I saw some of the other comments on BB you made, and I can’t help but think the whole smoke/fire thing.
So as a devil’s advocate, are we comfortable if Dixon is the one tossing to our shiny group of wideouts? He looked pretty impressive against the Ravens…is he capable of sharing the distribution to ge the best results?
It wont be an issue this year.
First of all the wheels of justice dont work that fast. Even if they discover DNA evidence, which only would show that he had sex with the girl, which I believe is likely, that would be all that it shows. That would give enough probable cause for a grand jury to move the case to trial, but then the gathering of witnesses, preparation of the case, finding a spot to hold the trial that will be unbiased, will take at least a year or so, if not more, this season is really not one to be too worried about.
His first case is against a raving looney. Now that he has 2 allegations he might be best served just paying these women off and resorting to high priced call girls for the rest of his “fun-time”.
Having a shadow looming over his head last season didn’t seem to affect him too much, he seems to strive under pressure, perhaps the Rooneys and Tomlin are setting these gals up for Ben just to keep him under constant duress.
And to answer your question, Dixon sure looked capable for 60+ minutes of that game against Baltimore last year. Don’t forget Dixon was a “top 10” pick a few years ago before he got injured. Unlike Sweed we didn’t expect much from him. His play in the preseason and in that BMore game last year showed us that. Is he going to be as good as been, most likely not. Is he capable of being as good or better, There is no reason to believe he isn’t.
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by PA ARMY OFFICER on Mar 10, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
I am
This will be his 3rd year, had some real game experience, had to have learned from his mistake in the Baltimore game, I think if Ben is not available for a long stretch of time they will use Dixon with a play to win mentality instead of – lets not get him hurt mentality like they did in the baltimore game
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
I think he will compete for #3.
Ben knows him, and El is a veteran, I think Wallace is definitely going to be a better receiver in his prime than El, but I could see Randle-El taking third from him. depending on the set.
If Ward or Holmes go down, he an play any role, that position flexibility is why he is valuable, + add Miller and you have a sick empty set, plus you can send El in motion and run it.
Everything ARE does, Wallace can do, except throw the ball. Wallace will not lose his job, ARE is just here to give us more depth and some special teams help. Last year we had a revolving door at the #4 WR spot.
by GDEUCE on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wallace is way
faster than ARE at this point
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think Randle El was ever as fast as Wallace
Maybe quicker, but I don’t remember hearing Randle El running that fast of a 40.
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-Bobby Knight
Yea
ARE may be more agile….
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Antwaaaaan Randle El
Man I love what this off-season is shaking. Now let’s draft something fierce!
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there is a rumor that sweed will be traded due to us getting El back
and i like the sound of that
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/sweed-to-falcons-rumors-are-off-the-mark/
even if the falcons aren’t interested, maybe another team will be.
and i really like El’s attitude in the interview
GRR
t1mmy lol not yet!!! 1 more year pls????
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
seriously though
how does Sweed hurt us fighting for a #5 slot? Let him come in compete see if he can make the team, and throw him out there and let him get his feet wet – a screen pass or something.
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
it doesnt hurt us
but i think if he doesnt do anything again he’s completely worthless & will be cut during offseason. we get nothing. if we trade him now we can get something out of it.
true
and if hw does end up getting it right we look like fools :)
Steelers football is 60 mins.
by tannofsteel84 on Mar 10, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sweed to CB
Great picture on that link! Very appropriate. If you read down a few comments on that link, someone mentions that if you’re fast but can’t catch, turn them into a CB. How true. Sweed could be a tall Ike Taylor! Ha!
Love this picture from the link....
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New offensive scheme
Now Arians can put Randle El in the backfield and eliminate the last remaining RB position. All the pieces are falling into place.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Mar 10, 2010 8:42 AM EST reply actions
lol
nice. Think of all the TEs and WRs we could have if we would just cut all the RBs…not to mention the cap room [sarcasm]. I say we make a play for TO too!!!
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by WarriorBlitz on Mar 10, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
wow that statement makes little sense
I am amazed that a guy can go to college and make no sense when talking. That is a horrible statement…people should not get a degree just because they can run fast and throw a football. They should start giving degrees in football only, a Bachelors of Football.
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