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If Stefan Logan Finds Himself on the 53 Man Roster Come September, He'll Have Earned It

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I really don't like the fact that I've been relatively hard on Stefan Logan this past 9 months or so. His story is hard to not not like. Journeyman, undersized, persistent, scrappy. All those adjectives describe Logan and his quest to make it as an NFL player. 

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Logan in no way performed poorly last season for the Steelers. His 26.7 yards per kickoff return was good for 6th best in the NFL. He was less successful returning punts though, averaging just 9.3 yards per return, good for 13th league wide. He did almost break a couple kickoff returns, most notably an 83 yarder. But his long returning punts was just 25 yards. Only two other players in the top 20 in punt return average had a lower long for the year than did Logan.

Again though, Logan's season wasn't a disappointing one per se. Perhaps it just seemed that way after he exploded onto the scene last training camp and during the preseason when he returned multiple kicks to the house.  It's also worth noting that Logan made peanuts compared to many of his colleagues returning kicks around the league. If I recally correctly, he earned close to or maybe even a shade under $300 thousand, which is absolutely bottom of the barrel in the NFL. He should be commended for his contributions compared to what type of financial investment was made in him.

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That said, I think Logan is going to be in a fight for his life..or rather, his job, come this summer. He has a number of players he'll have to fend off in order to keep his returning duties. The candidates most likely to compete for his job? Rookies Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown, Joe Burnett, Mewelde Moore, and perhaps even Mike Wallace. Who knows, that list could grow to include others I've not considered or that may not even be on our collective radar yet (like Logan was last year around this time).

Let's go through some of those names I mentioned and jot down a few notes about the likelihood of them winding up with some return duties in 2010.

Mewelde Moore: Extremely unlikely he'll return even a single kickoff in 2010; the insurance he provides returning punts though might just help him keep his job this year. The team presumably will explore other more explosive options, but you can count of Moore being sent back to fair catch a few punts at various points in the upcoming season.

Emmanuel Sanders: Jim Wexell noted that Sanders looked unimpressive fielding punts in the week of the Shrine Game, so perhaps he's a less likely candidate to field punts than he might be returning kicks. Sanders' straight line speed is quite impressive though, so I'd imagine he'll get some looks at KR at Latrobe. 

Joe Burnett: I think Burnett's future as a potential special teams contributor may be tied to his future as a CB in Dick LeBeau's defense. In other words, if Burnett proves to be an important nickel back that is playing 20+ snaps a game, I wouldn't expect him to be returning kicks where the most violent collisions all too often occur. I was very intrigued by the former 1st Team All American's abilities as a punt returner though and am hoping that he's one of the final few guys standing late in the summer for the job. 

Mike Wallace: Given the situation at WR, I think it's safe to say that Wallace's energy and talents will be saved for playing offense. He's too important this coming year in the passing game to risk trotting him back there on ST. Who knows, perhaps as a KR, but not as a PR. If none of the other guys earn the job though, or rather, if someone else loses the job mid-season because of fumbling problems, maybe he gets a sniff back there.

Antonio Brown: Last, but certainly not least, Antonio Brown will have a chance to make his way onto the Steelers roster because of what he potentially brings to the Steelers return game. The two-time MAC Special Teams Player of the Year took five punts and kicks back for TDs in his career at Central Michigan. Like Burnett, Brown got to run circles around some inferior athletic talent in a mid-major, but I happen to think both he and Burnett possess 'un-teachable' instincts as return guys. That is, they have a knack for knowing where the seams will materialize a second or two before they do.

As much as I like watching Logan churn those short impressively stocky legs, I just don't think he has those same instincts.  For that reason, combined with the fact that Logan adds little, if anything at all, on offense, and I think it wouldn't at all be surprising if he was not in the black and gold just one year after setting the franchise record for return yards in a single season. 

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I quess it was time to pay some bills

but something tells me that we will use the Anchorman as a KR/PR in special situation like we did with Santonio back in 2008

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by WVPiratesfan on Apr 30, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Ray Guy , WV?

Ray Guy was a punter… Seven plays a game do not qualify you for the Hall, sorry.

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is just ridiculous

He revolutionized the sport. He singlehandedly gave his team excellent field position over and over again, which usually lead to at least 3 points.

Don’t look at the plays, look at what is done with that limited action. After all, Randle El to Hines was only one play, but seemingly a damn good one.

Big Ben seems to have too much time on his hands, and too many hands on his time.

by sctx109 on Apr 30, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That play netted us six points, not the possibility of three, and secured a super bowl win. I’m sure there’s a guy out there who revolutionized long snapping, yet nobody’s pulling for him to take Dermontti Dawson’s place in the Hall. Cause that’s what it’s about. To put your man in, one real player, one who pours sweat and blood in the game, will be kept out.

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if you do not think a punter can be a star asset in games, look at Mike Scifres’ performance vs. the Colts in the 2009 playoffs. San Diego wins 23-17 in overtime, and I guarantee with an average punter, or even anyone but him, that game does not turn out that way,

Big Ben seems to have too much time on his hands, and too many hands on his time.

by sctx109 on Apr 30, 2010 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then he turns around

and out kicks his team and Holmes returns the punt for a TD the next game which started the Steelers and lead them to win the game. So you gotta take the good with the bad, might have not been the best example. :)

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Apr 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

And we win the Superbowl with two peg-legged bastards! Yeah, I’m really convinced.

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they want a place in the hall...

..then they should have specialist candidacies (I think they should, btw). And about Guy, he was a first round pick, so he better have revolutionized the position! He’s got an average of 42.4 for his career, which would have ranked 8th last year.

Wow! Revolutionary !

Let’s be real here, when a guy comes in and dominates as a kicker, a kickoff specialist AND a punter we’ll have a discussion…

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did revolutionize the position. The NFL began tracking punt hang time because of him. It’s not all about how deep you kick it, it’s the where you kick it to the guy who’s returning it so that it helps your team out. And to that end Ray Guy is the only punter I can think of who played over 10 seasons and never gave up a return. That’s very significant! Ray Guy also played a 13 year career and had only 3 punts blocked. Show me another Punter that can boast those two things. I mean, come on the dude played for 13 years and almost never messed up! And he never gave up a TD because he put the ball high for his team to get to the guy before he caught it. In a game based on field position I find it criminal how few people appreciate the punting game.

by Just A. Football Fan on Apr 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kickers and Punters are people too

and there is a kicker in the Hall of Fame, Lou “The Toe” Groza

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Apr 30, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a criminal

I think punting is overrated, throw me in jail. Love the returns, though. I must say I agree with WCPiratesfan, though that punters and kickers ARE people. I’m sure some of them can even cook or drive an automobile. That’s why I’m in favor of their own special wing in the Hall of Fame with the returners, long snappers, gunners and holders of legend. Free parking, easy access and popcorn, lots of popcorn. Bring the kids, they’ll love it!

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on May 1, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace

No way this coaching staff is going to play him on STs. The other guys are options and competition for Logan, though. It’s going to be fun to watch, for once. Gone are the days of lumbering power backs giving us a good 15 yards before crumbling underneath a mass of humanity. Thank god! Another Russell or Davenport return could have done me in!

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Nice to see that we have a nice selection of folks to choose from compared to the lumbering return men that we’ve had to endure in the recent past. I think this is a good problem.

Blitz, I think we don’t really know if Logan could add anything on offense. Last yr, Bruce A stated that he wanted to use and involve Logan in some offensive sets. This never happened and was somewhat disappointing to me. So we really don’t know if he can or cannot add anything on O.

One thing I do know…..his chances and opportunities to contribute on the offensive side of the ball are slowly diminishing with the arrival of these young bucks. Given this, and add the fact that the Steelers only trust him to return certain punts depending on the game situation and field position, makes him vulnerable for the chopping block. Let the competition begin!!

by ToonaSteel on Apr 30, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I just don’t know many 5’6" WRs in this league. VERY hard targets to throw to. There’s a handful of pint-sized RBs, and a few extremely talented players over the years have proven to be dangerous when deployed well. But heck, Arians doesn’t know how to use the protoypical backs we have, let alone mix in a scat back like that. I just don’t see how he can add much as a WR outside of as a decoy on those rare ‘hypocycloid’ 4 WR sets.

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by Michael Bean on Apr 30, 2010 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Hypocycloid'

I’m not sure if I feel pride or shame knowing that my one lasting contribution to this site has been the nick-name of a Bruce Arians designed five-receiver set.

by Varmint on Apr 30, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish I knew what it meant ;)

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Steelers emblem, those 3 stars, those are Hypocycloids (I think their specific type is Astroid, a hypocycloid with 4 cusps). Since the offense lined up in that weird formation (basically a diamond), Varmint awesomely nicknamed it the hypocycloid.

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by John Stephens on Apr 30, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

I was joking! I know what it means. Great nickname, Varmint, props, btw.

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on Apr 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

its actually the logo of cleveland steel factory

http://www.steelers.com/history/logo-history.html

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by jcogz43 on Apr 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

someone mentioned it in response to a comment I had made about Logan and I completely misunderstood. When I looked it on wiki it said something about circles within circles so my first thought was wheels within wheels… obviously a reference to trick plays. The follow up post wasn’t making sense to me so I thought I would leave and hope for clarity later.

I have found clarity.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarity

Such a good feeling. Fleeting maybe, but reassuring.

Let's move on!

by Steelfrog on May 1, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes

Why are we discounting Wallace’s chances to play on ST when Holmes played them. What makes his scenario different?

by jharmon64 on Apr 30, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys, sorry for interrupting – I need your help – I’m writing a piece on the ages of offensive linemen in the NFL.

What is the most likely starting 5 along your OL for the upcoming season? For the best accuracy, I’d prefer to hear from you guys rather than trust my own opinions or an ESPN depth chart.

Thanks!

by JimmyK on Apr 30, 2010 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

From LT to RT

Starks, Kemo, Hartwig, Pouncey, Colon

The future is not what it used to be.
What the media did not tell you.

by John Stephens on Apr 30, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do we really think Pouncey will start the season on the line?

It’s very rare for a rookie starter to play well. Think how many great O-Lineman Lebeau has abused horribly as a rookie over the years. I think Pouncey gets time, but not a lot early, I think he earns his way into the starting lineup by the end of the season, but I don’t want any rookie starting day one.

Week four against the Ravens, Pouncey in his fourth NFL game? MaLoR should comment on how happy that would make him.

by Phantaskippy on Apr 30, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he dominates in preseason and earns the RG position outright. Who do you really see beating him out that has a better skill set or ability?

The future is not what it used to be.
What the media did not tell you.

by John Stephens on May 3, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, what about that Randel El guy?

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by BadMaafala on Apr 30, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

His return days are over

he doesn’t cut like he used to, age has no been kind.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Apr 30, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked at his stats. Yeah, I guess not. His chances of making the team just went down a notch in my book. It’s probably either him or Battle to balance out the young guys a bit.

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by BadMaafala on Apr 30, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll still make the team

no point in signing a big name fan favorite guy like that just to dump him, he’ll be the #3 WR unless Sweed is spectacular.

Steelers football is 60 mins.

by tannofsteel84 on Apr 30, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t think either he or Brattle were brought in as primary punt returners. Both have been among the league worst in the past couple years in that category.

by SteelerBuddha on Apr 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strange....

that you forgot Randle El and Battle in that group.

by havildar on Apr 30, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

oh, mewelde "fair catch" moore

i hope you’re wrong cuz i like logan on the team just because it’s fun to root for the underdog.

by t1mmy10 on Apr 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Moore is the guy for returns, but he has been crucial in so many 3rd down situations I hope they keep him. And Randle El’s attitude and leadership might go a long way in the locker room with those young guys, even if his production has tapered.

by EmmettOtter on Apr 30, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with your take on moore. he’s only good for fair catches. and good point about randle el. maybe he’ll be able to give them pointers.

by t1mmy10 on May 1, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logan's value

I agree that Logan did a very respectable job during the 2009 season. But I think his true value is in the ball-security he provides. He once had a ball ripped out of his hands in a scrum but, other than that, Logan has been rock solid in fielding and protecting the ball. That’s a real advantage on a team that isn’t exactly known for special teams expertise.

If we think Logan doesn’t deserve a roster spot strictly as a kick-return guy, why don’t we try him out as a 3rd down receiver out of the backfield in certain situations. He can definitely make people miss when you give him a little space. Maybe at least we could give him a chance to expand his role on the team before we think about dumping him. I truly don’t think we’ve done more than scratch the surface of this guy’s ability.

by Billy52 on Apr 30, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Most likely role on offense

Is as “a Sproles,” as the kids today are saying. Logan is officially listed as a RB, and undersized RBs are a more likely proposition than undersized WRs, especially since Logan would be a change-of-pace guy rather than an every-down back. Anyway, if the coaching staff have talked repeatedly about wanting to get him onto the field more from scrimmage, one would hope that they actually try to make that happen.

With so many others who could potentially handle return duties, I imagine that Logan will have to either become a contributor on offense, or demonstrate a significant advantage over any of the other potential returners as a KR specialist. I’m pulling for him.

by TheSpatulaMessiah on Apr 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty much how I feel. I like what Logan ‘might’ do, but he needs to prove it on the field. In order for that to happen, Arians needs to use him.

by Varmint on Apr 30, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep Logan right where he is

The steelers made moves this off season to shore up what was pretty awful special teams play this past season and yet Logan was still able to do what he did. He earned his slot last year IMO…

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by Vinz Clortho on Apr 30, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone else have gullible info in their google homepage?

Four out of ten municipal bus drivers in Pittsburgh are convicted felons. Of these, two are on parole.

First time Ive seen a Pittsburgh related factoid make it there.

by SteelersVT on Apr 30, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

oh shit, i forgot we were on Logan.

If the little guy can catch a few passes outta the backfield and it doesn’t mean giving up on one of our other RB, then I say keep the lil fella.

by SteelersFnRule on Apr 30, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Stefan Logan

And I think he did a solid job last season.

That said, as long as he doesn’t play a true position other than kick/punt returner his job will always be at risk because the Steelers are always going to be looking to maximize the value out of each roster spot.

by catesinator on Apr 30, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Age

I think it may have more to do with age than anything else at this point. If he’s not significantly better than his competition at the position (which I expect to mainly be the WRs that we drafted), he’ll probably lose out just based on the fact that he’s about 5-7 years older than those guys.

For ideas on statistical analyses, email me at wolfpacksteelersfan@gmail.com.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 30, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

but way cheaper than most

I would suspect (I haven’t looked it up. I just based it on rookie salaries in NFL Head Coach 09.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 30, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but if you can pay two guys the same amount for the same production, you go with the guy who may develop into more.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 1, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

upside is important

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on May 2, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep an eye on Antonio Brown

I think I remember Tomlin at one point before the draft saying there were some good returners in this draft…and since they took Brown, I’m thinking he was one of those Tomlin was referring to.

I doubt Wallace will be used in that capactiy, he’s most likely to be a starter this year and its too big of a risk unless nobody else can do it. However, come playoff time, anything is possible.

Memo could be used as the “safe” PR again if a FC is needed.

Burnett really didn’t do anything special when given the chance last year. He’ll likely play more in the secondary this year so that’s probably where they’ll concentrate his engery. Although, he is a PR option if there is an injury.

Sanders probably will be given a good look at KR, but even if he doesn’t look that good there, he’s pretty close to being a lock to make the 53-man anyway as a 3rd rounder. Now if he is impressive at KR (and not PR for instance) then it makes the Logan situation a bit more iffy, since I doubt they’d keep Stefan around just to be a PR.

That’s where Brown comes in. He will probably be Logan’s main competiton for the KR/PR job, and even though he could still make the roster strictly as a WR, it’s much more likely if he wins the return job. I think if he and Logan end up a tie with their pre-season return performances, Brown would win the roster spot if he shows anything at WR at all. That’s not to say Logan can’t be used in some O plays as well (remember those couple quick screens), but he’s much more limited in that capacity.

Also, keep Randle El in the back of your mind. He could serve as PR if absolutely needed…although I don’t think he’ll be in the mix at this point unless there’s injury

by Psycho Kuz on Apr 30, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

and datruth was telling me that he thinks antonio brown might be something special as a returner. FWIW.

Good thoughts Kuz

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by Michael Bean on May 7, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Behind the Steel Overthinking

I find that, on BTSC, and on other sports blogs sites, most specifically in the off-season, bloggers and fans have no place that can really receive the intensity of their passion for the game. When the season is in full swing, there are plenty of outlets for that passion, the greatest of which being game day.

A lot of passion with nowhere to go usually leads to overdoing things. As it relates to this site, I find that it leads to a multitude of over-thinking.

This Logan thing is a perfect example.

Stefan Logan not only smashed the all time Steeler’s return record, he had a number very solid tackles when defending returns. This guy has the soul of a Steeler, and he performed well above mid-line. On the whole, the nation really likes Logan.

Other than the possibility of him totally tanking in 2010-2011, I think even entertaining the thought that Logan will be gone is classic BTSC over-thinking. And a load of shit.

:)

"The lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it, because that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. Alright lift your heads boys, prayers over. I talked to god. I'm thru talking to god, now I'm talking to you."

~ Coach Wayne Hisler ~

by Miyanovich on Apr 30, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hope you are right

partly because I like him and want him on the Steelers. Partly because I don’t want him coming back to the CFL (unless he plays for my home team). His skill set can be nasty on the bigger field we use up here.

How do I break it to the cat that since he has been declawed, the rabbit he sees in our backyard would kick his sorry butt?

by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Apr 30, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

:)

:)

"The lord wants you to put your foot on their balls and believe in it, because that's what wins football games. Not jumping offsides like a bunch of wimps and faggots. Alright lift your heads boys, prayers over. I talked to god. I'm thru talking to god, now I'm talking to you."

~ Coach Wayne Hisler ~

by Miyanovich on May 3, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I said last year the man is a great open field runner. All he did was set a record for return yards and do yeoman service on the pr. Rest asssured if given the chance he will change the outlook of the third down sitituation. His fumble, I think we know which 1, proved that he A. learns from his mistakes and 2 he shouldn’t return punts.LOL

by BC Steeler fan on Apr 30, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuzzy Maths
“If I recally correctly, he earned close to or maybe even a shade under $300 thousand, which is absolutely bottom of the barrel in the NFL”

So how did Logan make less than $300k last year. League minimum salary was $310k in 2009, so he had to at least be making at least $310k. And if he plays next year he’ll be credited for one year so his new minimum salary will advance to at least $400k. (Cause the league minimum depends on how long you’ve been in the league and it increases every year).

by Just A. Football Fan on Apr 30, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

It's good to see you admit that

Logan sure can Sprint

To try and then fail, is not unacceptable, but failing to try, is accepting failure.

by alfresco on May 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

wishbone???

Mendenhall, Logan and Frank the Tank behind Dixon…how’s that for run options?
The best thing for Logan is “out of the backfield” either passes or sweeps.
I’ don’t think there’s gonna be room for a “Returner Only” player this year.
Maybe Sweed’s injury will change things…I do hope Sweed can play, he IS good, he just needs to “adjust” to the NFL life, overall…I mean the expectations and the due respect the life deserves. Maybe I shouldn’t have called him"Mr." Sweed at training camp 2 years ago, and I unintentionally got all the little kids around us to call he “Mr.” Sweed also, it kind of freaked him out a little bit, he had this strange surprised look on face and kept asking “Where am I?”
Whoops, MY bad? haha, I hope not.

God Bless Myron Cope.

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