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Long Cold Off Season


If you're not in the mood for a ramble, leave now.

All others, follow me.

Well, it is just under two weeks until the NFL draft (What other draft would you be interested in?). I've been reading people's posts concerning the draft and I have to say I'm amazed at the time and effort that has been put into these predictions. Someone recently (Actually, two that I clearly remember) wrote quite a lot about how they were sick of ALL the mock drafts and overlapping opinions...After, apparently, reading every one of them. I for one have enjoyed them all, whether I agreed with them or not. My hat is off to those of you who took the time to compile your drafts, especially BigJ week in and week out.

After reading everyones opinions, reasons, justifications, disagreements, etc...I have come to my preference for a first round pick. And the selection is: Either Pouncey or Wilson. Way to make a decision, I know. While I think that corner is the position of most need, I think that Pouncey might be too good to pass up. Also, I have to think that Gay, Burnett, or what's-his-name might still have the ability to step up with another year under his belt, and a second round corner is still very good, if the coaches have their doubts too. Check out Pouncey though if you haven't already.

Please, don't anyone say the word "reach", I don't believe in the concept. If that is the player you need and he is not going to be there in the next round, then you take him. I know, some of you think taking a center in the first is sacrilege, but that went out the window when three centers were drafted in the first 50 players taken last year. I think that if you need him, you now have to take him when you're sure you can get him.


I haven't wanted to comment on Big StupidBen until I had watched and waited for a while. I think he will prevail at this point and I'm happy about that. There is a lot to think about here though. First, the outrage that everyone has expressed that this young man was intending to have sex in a club bathroom with a woman he didn't know. I say, "ehh, whatever. Young men will do that". Concerning the "Devil shirt": All I have to say is, "Wow, that was an ugly shirt". What do I think about him putting himself in a potentially bad situation? I have to say, "That's a tough one!" If we could see they were bad situations ahead of time, there would be not problem. So, now we are talking about "potentially" bad situations. That is a whole other can of worms. "Potentially" bad situations expand exponentially in number from just "Bad" situations. "Potentially" bad, could be anything. Going there could drive you crazy.

Sure, you say any girl willing to have sex in a club bathroom (I'm giving Ben the benefit of the doubt that he didn't lure her into the bathroom on the pretense of them both washing their hands and then suggest a little mutual touching) is a no-brainer "Potentially" bad situation (Disease, Craziness - whatever). I have to agree with that, but I'm a little (Okay, a lot) older than Ben.

Women reading this, you may not know this (but, I suspect you do): Young men love to have sex in strange places with strange women. Just a simple fact. Those of you who haven't done it, or wanted to do it, can express moral outrage here. Take your time, really get it out. If you must, comment on it below.

Another thought occurs to me: If you had given me 100 million ($100,000,000!) when I was his age, I don't know what I would have become. I was pretty much an idiot at that age. And I wasn't even famous! Or rich! I think the combination of the three would have done me in.

The only argument I can find here against Ben, other than if he actually did it, is why do other mega-rich mega-stars seem to stay out of these situations. It may come down to pure luck, or bad luck, plain and simple. It may not. In that case, Ben should be able to turn this thing around, if, he is so inclined. Otherwise, bad luck, can be a serious bitch to plan for.


So, for the most part, what I'm saying is: I have no moral outrage, shock or amazement that Ben got into the situation he got into. I have no position to expect him to behave any differently. I wish he would though. I would love for him to mature to be a real character guy. But those are just my expectations and aren't worth very much.

As for Santonio? I guess, he fits into the same explanation above. I'm not shocked he was out in a club. Rather, I would be shocked if a young man of his wealth wasn't out socializing. Unless he's married and she is at home tending the kids. We can't ask these guys to forego the pleasures of their labors because the "Potential" for others bad behavior, as the situation now appears to be.

I'm old enough, I have no interest in twitter, I thought, ever. But, if any of yinz know what Santonio twittered that has gotten others so upset, please tell me, so I can understand why there is talk of sending this guy packing. Not so interested I would even investigate signing up for Twitter.

For those of you who want a good song for your I-pod that you have never heard of, try: Voto Latino, by Molotov. If you like Low Rider by War, you should like this. Interesting sound.

I digress.

I don't know If I expressed it here, and I'm way too lazy to go-a-searchin', but I really thought that Willie Parker would do great under Mike Shanahan. I look for big things out of Willie. I wish him only the best.

I think it was Ed Bouchette who reported that Rooney voted for the overtime rule change "Reluctantly". How do you get a Rooney to do something "Reluctantly"? I thought the whole charm of the Rooneys was that they did what they thought was right. Maybe, they had to make a deal for something? Wonder what it would be?

I don't know how I feel about the overtime rule change. I see the points on both sides making sense. I've always thought, win the game in regular time and you don't have to worry about overtime. But, I may be leaning towards liking the whole filed goal and the other guy gets a chance thing. And, I may be leaning toward not liking the fact that if the first team makes a field goal then the second team only has to make a field goal to keep the game going. I think this could lead to injures, and injures haven't been very kind to the Steelers lately.

I loved Sean Payton's education, where in he learned that, no, in fact, he really has no real power when it comes to decisions in the NFL. Poor guy. I hope they're paying him enough to get over it. I didn't like the sneaky way the NFL did it, sending the coaches out to play golf and then voting. That felt like something Goddell, Jones and Kraft would cook up.

Hence forth, Goodell, Jones and Kraft will be known as, "The Axis of Evil".

Whoever reads this and has some musical talent, would you please re-record Jane's Addiction's song "Been Caught Steelin'" as "Been Caught Cheatin'" and send it to the Steelers to play during home games with the Hated Patriots. Please?

I think Philly will rue (Yes, I said it) the day they sent McNabb to their rivals. I think that I would not give Shanahan any help if he moved to my division. That being said, even Joe Gibbs couldn't do much with that franchise, so, until the owner is replaced, maybe there isn't that much to worry about from Washington.

Has anyone heard anything significant about the new offensive line coach? I mean, does he like his players? Does he think he NEEDS a new stud? What?

Okay, it's time for lunch and I think I have worn at your sanity.

Ramble out.

Go Steelers!

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I think Ben isn't going to skate on this one.

Whether or not he is charged, I don’t know. I think Goodell is gonna sit him down for some games this upcoming season however. Frankly, I think he is in the right to do so.

Whether or not he is guilty, he is becoming a black mark on the league, and the Steelers. Before anyone jumps on me, I have no idea if he has done this or not. I am not taking a moralist tone like some have accused me of doing in the past. The simple truth is Ben is an employee of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who play in the National Football League. The league, and the team have a right to protect their image, and right now Ben’s actions have made him a problem. Think nothing of the poor leadership he is currently demonstrating to his teammates. I think Goodell should suspend him for at least 4 games in regards to the league’s conduct policy. Maybe if Ben starts thinking about how his actions could potentially ruin his career, he will stop carousing around like a drunk college kid in the off-season.

" Just go and lay your hand on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and then I think you'll finally understand"

" In America" Charlie Daniels Band

by idiscgolftexas on Apr 9, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you have a good point
I think Goodell should suspend him for at least 4 games in regards to the league’s conduct policy.

I don’t want to hurt the team, and the team will hurt from that, but to nip this stuff in the bud you have to be harsh. There needs to be integrity.

by Twell on Apr 9, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about two games

and a pre-season game

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Apr 10, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure preseason games matter that much

but a two – three games seems reasonable considering

by Twell on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 games

It has to be to repair and protect whatever integrity is left in the league. Dixon needs to step up now

by PCISteeler on Apr 11, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN Reporting that no charges will be filed

BB still needs to grow up. What is a 28 year old doing in a college bar trying to pick up 20 year old girls. I believe something happened but the DA can’t prove a crime was committed. The girl is not a good witness. Fake ID, drinking under age, drunk at that, no witnesses, and obviously no physical evidence. He was lucky. Next time he may not be so lucky..

Goodell should not suspend him for being an idiot, but should give him a very stern lecture and “encourage” him to get some help in managing his life and image.

by Steeler Nation VA on Apr 9, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Even if no charges are filed...

This will make him damaged goods in the eyes of some of his teammates. Some in that locker room will see him as simply getting off rather than innocent, or not guilty. His credibility takes a big hit either way.

" Just go and lay your hand on a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, and then I think you'll finally understand"

" In America" Charlie Daniels Band

by idiscgolftexas on Apr 10, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

when I was 16 me and my girlfriend at the time banged in a slide at a McDonald’s playplace on a bet from our friends. In broad daylight. There were no kids in there or anything (except us I guess). We were pretty drunk though.

by dankdiggety on Apr 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I would tell that story on the internet

but among friends yes

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Apr 10, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i find myself among friends

so my sexcapades i shall not defend

by klompus on Apr 10, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Women reading this, you may not know this (but, I suspect you do): Young men love to have sex in strange places with strange women. Just a simple fact. Those of you who haven’t done it, or wanted to do it, can express moral outrage here. Take your time, really get it out. If you must, comment on it below.

nah. i really dont think a guy gives a flyin rat where he boinks as long as he IS boinkin. dead serious. thats a girl thing. girls want it outdoors …mountains…yadda yadda…

guys want normal sex with STRANGE new girls.

you had part of it right I just had to rearrange it.

think about it if a guy had a choice to boink his girl hes been dating five years in a strange place…OR he could boink a strange girl in a normal place….and not ever get caught…..

which would he choose.

99.5 out of 100 men would choose the strange exotic girl over the ol standby on a strange exotic mountain

Ben is INNOCENT!

by Hi5Steeler on Apr 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

tru that

how about a strange girl in Point Park

by PCISteeler on Apr 11, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh wait….

just saw the strange women part….

cancel my entire post.

you are ready to walk across the rice paper my son

Ben is INNOCENT!

by Hi5Steeler on Apr 10, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

you are on a roll today

Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Llyod, Andy Russel, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene and Jerry Kramer
"they dont foul do they ref???" Bob Huggins
Canal Street Chronicles resident Steelers Fan

by WVPiratesfan on Apr 10, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should be the special at Rubin’s Deli!

Lovin’ me some Purple. Going to see the Purple & Gold tomorrow at Staples against the Trail Blazers.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Apr 10, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

all the mocky mocks

people have put in an amazing amount of effort and we are fortunate as fellow fans for all the info. Only thing I can come up with for those who are sick of all the draft posts, don’t read them..

Liked the rant Wyo, felt like I was having a conversation at the bar.

"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.

by kick him in the head on Apr 10, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame the schools.

But at any rate, the faster this off-season comes to an end the better. I’m tired of reading about Steelers players when the headline doesn’t involve “Steelers Prove Super” or “Steelers Rout Ravens….Again.”

All of the negative press makes the 1,374 Mock Draft FanPosts a pleasant diversion.

Just think….. in a few short days we’ll hear “and with the 18th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select in the first round_____________________”

Here We Go!

When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!

by 1BlkGldFan on Apr 10, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I still think the concept of "reach" exists

For example, Mr. Troy Edwards. We definately needed a wide receiver that year and Torry Holt was off the board. I’ve heard that this was a strong disagreement between Cowher and Tom Donahue. Troy would not have been available if we waited one more round but he definately was a reach this early. Cowher wanted defense on this pick and he was pushing for Mr. Freak (Javon Kearse). To this day, I still can’t believe that we picked Edwards over Kearse.

by Dr Del on Apr 11, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben will sit. There are only two questions...

1) Whether it will be Goodell or Rooney who pulls the trigger.
2) Whether it will be two games or four.

Goodell has come down hard on bad actors who happen to be Black. Now he has a white one to deal with. And there are an awful lot of black players and coaches and assistant coaches and fans who don’t want to see a double standard between PacMan, Vick, etc; and Ben. I know Ben hasn’t been charged or convicted, but that’s not the sole determining issue here.

San-doobie-oh got kicked out of town for smoking weed (and multiple other past offenses), which seems a lot less onerous than Ben’s behavior in that public baith-rooom. He also has multiple offenses and we are ALL sick of his off-season drama.

This is the year Artie and Tomlin lay down the law. They will regain control of their team.
Ben sits.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Apr 13, 2010 3:37 AM EDT reply actions  

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